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Post by iamkristinl16 on Apr 5, 2020 21:52:01 GMT
If you live in a state without a Shelter in Place order, are businesses still open? Are people working from home? Still congregating? Or is it essentially like a Shelter in Place but not official?
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Post by ellen on Apr 5, 2020 21:57:20 GMT
I've wondered about this. It kind of bothers me that three states on the MN border do not have a Shelter in Place order and I've wondered (hoped) if local governments have done the work that needs to be done.
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Post by Laurie on Apr 5, 2020 21:59:39 GMT
South Dakota here. It is basically a shelter in place but not official. Restaurants and bars are closed. Walmart, Target, Menards, etc are following the same rules as they do in other states. No church.
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Post by tenacious on Apr 5, 2020 22:04:13 GMT
Utah, we are under a “stay home, stay safe,” order. Restaurants closed, non essential businesses, schools, etc. it is essentially the same. Also, most are working from home.
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Post by huskermom98 on Apr 5, 2020 22:11:24 GMT
Here in Iowa there's no eating in a restaurants, no gatherings over 10 people (i.e. churches, funerals, weddings, etc), emergency surgeries only, dental offices are closed except for emergencies, barber shops and salons are closed, floral shops, playgrounds closed etc. by order of the governor. Even without a shelter in place order there are a lot of places that have chosen to close if it wasn't ordered (music stores, libraries, malls, the zoo, kids places).
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Post by mom2samlibby on Apr 5, 2020 22:12:37 GMT
Nebraska here. It's basically a shelter in place, as essentials are the only ones still open. Schools, churches, bars, parks are closed, you can only get take out from a limited number of places. The DHM from last week shut down a lot of the places that were still open, such as gyms and hairdressers. There is a 10 person limit at any gathering. All campgrounds are closed through May.
There are a bunch of people that are wanting the government to order a shut down, but I'm not sure what else there is to shut down. While I have only been out to pick up groceries twice in the past three weeks, I would like the option to go for a drive if I decide I want to go drive just to get out of the house.
We've got some factories that are still open here and that's what a lot are complaining about, but both are ag related -- one is a meat packing plant and the other makes combines. If those shut down, the food chain is going to be in trouble.
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Post by Dreamsofnyssa on Apr 5, 2020 22:18:55 GMT
We do have a shelter in place. It isn’t stopping anyone.
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Post by Linda on Apr 5, 2020 22:20:27 GMT
we're under a stay home, stay safe order but it has no teeth and enough loopholes to rival swiss cheese. (Florida)
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Apr 5, 2020 22:24:00 GMT
Dreamsofnyssa where do you live? We have seen more people (especially teens) spending time together (in public) than what there should be, which is frustrating. I was on a call earlier and one of the people is from TN. At the end of the call she said, "Oh, our friends are here for our Sunday night pickleball." I commented about having friends over, and assumed that there was no SIP there. She saod, "well, it is outside, we are using hand sanitizer, not touching. Plus, we are all family." I then commented about not having anyone over that doesn't live with us. Was trying not to be a jerk but it ticked me off. Then I looked it up and saw that TN does have a SIP order. So, I guess they just don't think it applies to family members/close friends?
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Post by purplebee on Apr 5, 2020 22:33:13 GMT
Arkansas here. Schools closed til the 20th, but I can’t see that happening, we won’t peak yet at that point. No gatherings over 10 people, churches unofficially closed due to that mandate.
Restaurants closed except for carry out, bars, nail salons, tattoo shops, hair salons, barbers all closed.
Most medical facilities, including pharmacies and vets, are closing lobbies and waiting rooms and restricting to curbside/drive through pickup. Patient only allowed in clinics, and you wait in your car til called. Playgrounds and pavilions closed, trails still open. Restricted access to State Parks, some closed. Some grocery stores doing social distancing, Walmart restricting occupancy and entry/exit from one entrance only.
I wish the Governor (Republican) would institute a stay at home order, but he insists that things are going well w/o it. We’ll see....
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Post by maryland on Apr 5, 2020 23:50:35 GMT
Good question. I thought it was business as usual in those states. It's good to see schools are closed and many non essential businesses are too.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Apr 6, 2020 0:01:45 GMT
we're under a stay home, stay safe order but it has no teeth and enough loopholes to rival swiss cheese. (Florida) ^^^ ditto for Arizona. Although the governor finally extended it to include hair and nail salons, barbershops, massage places, and tanning salons. Because "they can't comply with the social distancing guidelines." No F'ING shit, dude, really!?! They couldn't have before!! Yet he left them as 'essential' in his first go-around. I think golf courses are still considered 'essential' too, at the moment.
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Post by CeeScraps on Apr 6, 2020 0:05:48 GMT
Did you guys here the oh so brilliant Governor of FL has reopened beaches? What a dork!
Anyhow......I just do not comprehend why some aren’t sticking to a shelter in place order.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Apr 6, 2020 0:22:01 GMT
Did you guys here the oh so brilliant Governor of FL has reopened beaches? What a dork! Anyhow......I just do not comprehend why some aren’t sticking to a shelter in place order. Wow just freakin unbelievable.
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Post by atomicdog on Apr 6, 2020 0:28:45 GMT
South Carolina here. Our ineffectual governor finally closed some additional business Friday - it had been the schools and restaurants. Then he added beaches. Then tourist attractions, beauty salons and barbers, gyms and all athletic venues. Friday he added basically all other retail (except for the necessary) - the furniture stores and department stores all have to close except for online or curbside pickup. But factories are all open and no shelter in place. If we were all behaving well and doing the stay at home thing, that would be fine, but so, so many are NOT. PLEASE issue the shelter in place NOW!!!!
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Post by maryland on Apr 6, 2020 0:32:11 GMT
Did you guys here the oh so brilliant Governor of FL has reopened beaches? What a dork! Anyhow......I just do not comprehend why some aren’t sticking to a shelter in place order. I thought they were closed. Where did you see they reopened? That's terrible!
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Post by kelly8875 on Apr 6, 2020 0:36:05 GMT
Here in Iowa there's no eating in a restaurants, no gatherings over 10 people (i.e. churches, funerals, weddings, etc), emergency surgeries only, dental offices are closed except for emergencies, barber shops and salons are closed, floral shops, playgrounds closed etc. by order of the governor. Even without a shelter in place order there are a lot of places that have chosen to close if it wasn't ordered (music stores, libraries, malls, the zoo, kids places). Another Iowan here. Parks are open, but playgrounds, pavilions, bathrooms closed. Schools closed at least until April 30, along with salons, barbers, tattoo. Theaters, libraries, jewelry stores, furniture stores, book stores all closed. There’s an apparent loop hole for arts & crafts stores being open. Most of these have been closed for weeks already. If we do end up with shelter in place something like 80% of our business is considered essential, so there are a lot of people working. Many office buildings are low on in-person work. I’m working from home, and we have a very small office. Our company is essential, we will be open. We are definitely NOT business as normal in Iowa. Unfortunately we have groups of people gathering, but the rules say no more than 10 people. Frankly our state was locking down sooner than states having more problems who didn’t lock down sooner.
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Post by Gennifer on Apr 6, 2020 0:46:15 GMT
Utah, we are under a “stay home, stay safe,” order. Restaurants closed, non essential businesses, schools, etc. it is essentially the same. Also, most are working from home. They’re not really the same, IMO. While schools are closed statewide and restaurants are limited to take-out, no other businesses are closed statewide. There are three counties (Summit, Salt Lake, and a Davis) that have issued stay-at-home orders, and those include closing non-essential businesses and limiting non-essential travel, but, frankly, no one seems to be following those, and it doesn’t keep people from outside the county coming in. Here is a link to which states have enacted one, and which haven’t.
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Post by refugeepea on Apr 6, 2020 0:50:45 GMT
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Post by iteach3rdgrade on Apr 6, 2020 0:57:43 GMT
Maybe the states without shelter in place can follow directions better and don't need ordered and more closed. lol
I guess our golf courses are opened...
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Post by Linda on Apr 6, 2020 1:47:33 GMT
we're under a stay home, stay safe order but it has no teeth and enough loopholes to rival swiss cheese. (Florida) ^^^ ditto for Arizona. Although the governor finally extended it to include hair and nail salons, barbershops, massage places, and tanning salons. Because "they can't comply with the social distancing guidelines." No F'ING shit, dude, really!?! They couldn't have before!! Yet he left them as 'essential' in his first go-around. I think golf courses are still considered 'essential' too, at the moment. churches are 'essential' here and exempt from the less than 10 people AND social distancing guidelines...stupid. Thankfully our Bishop is more sensible and the Catholic churches are closed
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Post by Dallie on Apr 6, 2020 1:50:14 GMT
Dreamsofnyssa where do you live? We have seen more people (especially teens) spending time together (in public) than what there should be, which is frustrating. I was on a call earlier and one of the people is from TN. At the end of the call she said, "Oh, our friends are here for our Sunday night pickleball." I commented about having friends over, and assumed that there was no SIP there. She saod, "well, it is outside, we are using hand sanitizer, not touching. Plus, we are all family." I then commented about not having anyone over that doesn't live with us. Was trying not to be a jerk but it ticked me off. Then I looked it up and saw that TN does have a SIP order. So, I guess they just don't think it applies to family members/close friends? People really do think that.
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Post by sassyangel on Apr 6, 2020 2:35:32 GMT
If you live in a state without a Shelter in Place order, are businesses still open? Are people working from home? Still congregating? Or is it essentially like a Shelter in Place but not official? North Dakota. We have no order. Lots of businesses are closed. But stuff that would be deemed non essential under a shelter in place, is not. My husband still has to go to work. His job is not essential at all, but his company has openly said they will not close until they’re told to by the governor. He’s immune compromised, so this decision infuriates me. Some are taking it seriously, lots are not. The boat ramps and the parks were FULL last weekend. The frustrating thing I find is people shopping in groups still. That is pretty much the only time I leave the house, and it’s a nightmare trying to 6 feet distance from a whole family together, especially in a smaller store.
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Post by Merge on Apr 6, 2020 2:43:11 GMT
If you live in a state without a Shelter in Place order, are businesses still open? Are people working from home? Still congregating? Or is it essentially like a Shelter in Place but not official? North Dakota. We have no order. Lots of businesses are closed. But stuff that would be deemed non essential under a shelter in place, is not. My husband still has to go to work. His job is not essential at all, but his company has openly said they will not close until they’re told to by the governor. He’s immune compromised, so this decision infuriates me. Some are taking it seriously, lots are not. The boat ramps and the parks were FULL last weekend. The frustrating thing I find is people shopping in groups still. That is pretty much the only time I leave the house, and it’s a nightmare trying to 6 feet distance from a whole family together, especially in a smaller store. In Houston they actually put out a statement telling people to send ONE family member to the store unless there is a special circumstance like a person who needs assistance with shopping. People have been doing their usual thing where grocery shopping is a big family outing with kids running all over. That drives me nuts under normal circumstances.
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Post by scrapmaven on Apr 6, 2020 2:48:06 GMT
Did you guys here the oh so brilliant Governor of FL has reopened beaches? What a dork! Anyhow......I just do not comprehend why some aren’t sticking to a shelter in place order. Because the world is filled w/entitled assholes who think the rules don't apply to them! Also, because they're idiots.
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Post by hop2 on Apr 6, 2020 2:53:09 GMT
Dreamsofnyssa where do you live? We have seen more people (especially teens) spending time together (in public) than what there should be, which is frustrating. I was on a call earlier and one of the people is from TN. At the end of the call she said, "Oh, our friends are here for our Sunday night pickleball." I commented about having friends over, and assumed that there was no SIP there. She saod, "well, it is outside, we are using hand sanitizer, not touching. Plus, we are all family." I then commented about not having anyone over that doesn't live with us. Was trying not to be a jerk but it ticked me off. Then I looked it up and saw that TN does have a SIP order. So, I guess they just don't think it applies to family members/close friends? The family from NJ where several members died is not the only family this has happened to. Gathering is gathering www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/03/21/two-more-members-of-tragic-new-jersey-family-infected-with-coronavirus/amp/nypost.com/2020/04/02/italian-family-of-four-killed-by-coronavirus-in-same-week/amp/www.limaohio.com/news/405275/woman-says-brother-parents-died-from-coronavirus-husband-on-ventilator
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Post by Charlotte on Apr 6, 2020 3:00:32 GMT
I am in Wyoming, one of the larger communities, and most people are working from home. Schools are starting online tomorrow after being out for three weeks. Restaurants are pick-up only and many have closed until this is over. Service-related businesses are closed. (salons, nail places, etc..) I did pick-up at Wal-Mart today and they had carts turned upside down creating a queuing system for people. The parking lot wasn't as busy as a normal Sunday, but the food truck in the parking lot was sure busy. I have left the house twice in three weeks. Last week it was to pick-up from our favorite burger joint and my husband was the one who went in to get the food. Today I did grocery pick-up and didn't even roll my window down to hear my replacements. Most people I know here are behaving the same way.
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Apr 6, 2020 4:13:27 GMT
For a lot of the states, it doesn't sound really any different than MN. MN has a high percentage of essential workers as well. My DH works for a window company and they are "essential."
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Post by gotranch on Apr 6, 2020 5:48:56 GMT
Thank you for asking. After watching the national news tonight I was disheartened to see how we here in South Dakota are being portrayed. SD does not have a Shelter in Place order, but by no means does that mean we not taking this pandemic seriously and taking precautions.
As Laurie posted above social distancing practices have been in place across the state. Schools and churches have been closed for 3 weeks. Most hospitals, nursing homes and assisted living homes have been closed to visitors even longer. Stores and restaurants have closed completely or adjusted hours and limit the amount of people. Banks, State, Federal and County offices, as well as many business have closed their doors to walk in traffic and many are working from home. Our small town grocery store has closed it's doors to the public and only does parking lot pick-up. Thankfully it has been pretty well stocked and they use social media to let us know when they are out of something.
The governor has been working with the health department to make plans and acquire the necessary medical supplies. She also mobilized the National Guard this week to begin building additional temporary hospitals starting in the two largest cities and then go from there if needed. They do not anticipate our state to peak until late May.
There is a website that tracks how well people are sheltering in place. I don't remember the name of the site right now, but will post it when I find it again. They list SD and some of the other rural agricultural states that do not have a shelter place orders as the worst states. I feel that is an unfair representation as it gets it's data by tracking cell phone usage. What they do not account for is the distances many farmers and ranchers cover in a day to get from pasture to pasture or field just to do daily chores. They may travel 25 miles or more without coming into contact with anyone verses someone in an urban area that only travels a mile radius but encounters multiple people. It is not uncommon here in western SD to have to travel up to 75-100 miles one way to get to a town for groceries and supplies.
Be safe, be kind as everyone is in this struggle together.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Apr 6, 2020 13:06:32 GMT
Also in Nebraska without an official shelter in place. Everything but essential business are closed. We have restaurant pickup and we can purchase alcohol with to go orders. Parks open, but playgrounds and sports courts are closed. We are following the same rules as states with a SIP ordered. And just like those states, we have assholes who think the rules don’t apply to them. The mayor closed a park in a predominantly black neighborhood and people are claiming racism. She closed it because the last three weekends there were over 1000 people in the park partying with no attempts at social distancing. She also called all the big box stores to speak to each manager about helping to maintain social distancing in their stores. Everyone was on board but I guess Menards didn’t take her call until it was reported on the local news. Then they were happy to speak to her after being called out.
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