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Post by chances on Apr 13, 2020 9:02:03 GMT
Listening to friends and reading here, it seems like a large portion of people are saving their check rather than spending it. It makes total sense because we have a non-existent social safety net, people need to mitigate against job loss.
I dont know, I could be wrong. Is this really supposed to improve the economy through increased spending?
ETA: I wasn't referring to middle class people who are putting away the check for savings. I'm thinking of my working class friends who haven't lost their jobs yet. No one is spending that money bc it's going to get much worse if/ when they lose their jobs.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Apr 13, 2020 9:27:21 GMT
The poorest of us will spend it on needs.
Those who can afford to save it, might. Or maybe they will spend it on a larger purchase for their home, etc.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Apr 13, 2020 9:53:45 GMT
A lot of people here may be able to save it because demographically speaking, this group consists mostly of people who are very comfortable. Plus it’ll look like the cool pea thing to say, “oh we don’t need it, so I suppose we’ll save it.” So don’t let what the peas are saying fool you.
The vast majority of the country is not comfortable, and lives paycheck to paycheck. With job loss, hours lost, and even the added expense this is costing everyone, yes, this money will be quickly spent by the overwhelming majority.
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Post by ghislaine on Apr 13, 2020 10:07:21 GMT
The people on this board are, generally, well off enough that we can make a choice between saving and spending windfalls like the stimulus check. I think it's really smart to save it. But, since the vast majority of Americans live paycheck to paycheck I imagine that this check will be spent on some pressing repairs or bills. I wouldn't look askance at anyone stocking up on food or entertainment with it either.
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Post by cade387 on Apr 13, 2020 10:45:36 GMT
Even those who will spend it will most likely spend it on needs (rent, utilities, Bills, taxes or groceries). To me that isn’t going to stimulate the economy at all. It is a band-aid solution that isn’t enough. To me it is about the perception/politics of it all rather than doing much good up front.
A stimulus is meant to stimulate the economy. If 75% of the business are closed there is nothing to stimulate. It is just a lifeline for those who need it most/fit in the first set of rules.
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Post by zuke on Apr 13, 2020 11:20:29 GMT
Our son offered it to us and siblings if in need because everyone is being laid off from their jobs. Everyone said they're fine. He will now be donating it a charity, nursing home or the hospital close to him in Washington for medical supplies. We will put it in the bank as a safety net. You never know what the future holds.
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Post by mikklynn on Apr 13, 2020 12:04:36 GMT
We will save it for now. But, eventually we will put it towards flooring and siding.
I know a lot of people will use it for necessities, like DD. She lost her job.
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Post by milocat on Apr 13, 2020 13:16:07 GMT
Is the amount based on your income or is everyone getting the same? If someone is saving it they might just mean short term because they may be fune financially today but depending how long this carries on they may need it soon. Which could be 6 months from now vs saving it for some big future purchase.
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Post by janeliz on Apr 13, 2020 14:45:30 GMT
I think that even if people do sock it away in savings, it will still make many of them more confident and comfortable about spending some money they already have. It’s a bit of a cushion for many who, before, may have felt like things were uncomfortably tight.
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Post by jenjie on Apr 13, 2020 14:46:18 GMT
Is the amount based on your income or is everyone getting the same? If someone is saving it they might just mean short term because they may be fune financially today but depending how long this carries on they may need it soon. Which could be 6 months from now vs saving it for some big future purchase. That’s my thought too. Whether it’s called a stimulus check, I’m thinking for many it will be used to pay existing bills, whether this month or 3 months from now.
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Post by tyra on Apr 13, 2020 14:48:26 GMT
We are using it towards a new fence for the backyard. Thankfully both DH and I are still employed, we are each deemed essential in our respective fields.
We have some savings, but I have been bugging him about a fence for 5 years now. It is finally time. It will be nice to be able to support a small business in our community, while not having our savings hit.
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Post by bethany102399 on Apr 13, 2020 14:50:37 GMT
If this had happened to us in 2012, we would be using it to keep ourselves afloat amidst job loss and other nightmares that happened to us that year. In fact, I have no memory of the last stimulus check as I'm sure it was quickly used to pay off some past due bill or other emergency. For me, it reinforces how very, very lucky we are to no longer be living paycheck to paycheck anymore. As many of the others have said, much of the country is not so lucky and are waiting anxiously for that money to show up so they can float a little while longer.
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Post by Skellinton on Apr 13, 2020 14:54:35 GMT
Is the amount based on your income or is everyone getting the same? If someone is saving it they might just mean short term because they may be fune financially today but depending how long this carries on they may need it soon. Which could be 6 months from now vs saving it for some big future purchase. Everyone who is getting one is getting the same. We are holding on to ours because it is unsure how long my school will be paying me to work from home. We might need it to make up my lost pay in the future. When things are back to what ever our new normal is we will use part of it for a new couch and the rest towards our Disney trip, that is if we were able to save it.
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Apr 13, 2020 15:18:13 GMT
Is the amount based on your income or is everyone getting the same? If someone is saving it they might just mean short term because they may be fune financially today but depending how long this carries on they may need it soon. Which could be 6 months from now vs saving it for some big future purchase. Everyone who is getting one is getting the same. I thought it phased out at one point until, for single earners, it phased out entirely at $99,000.
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Post by moodyblue on Apr 13, 2020 15:23:57 GMT
Everyone who is getting one is getting the same. I thought it phased out at one point until, for single earners, it phased out entirely at $99,000. Yes, it goes down some in increments and then you reach the amount where people get nothing.
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Post by stittsygirl on Apr 13, 2020 15:25:42 GMT
Everyone who is getting one is getting the same. I thought it phased out at one point until, for single earners, it phased out entirely at $99,000. That’s true. We won’t be getting as much as most because our adjusted gross income was higher for 2019, but we will still get some of it plus the $500 each for our two youngest children (but nothing for the two oldest who still live with us while they’re in school). The stimulus calculators I’ve used say my husband and I should receive about $2600 total. My husband is still safe and working in Afghanistan so we’re fine. The kids and I are planning on donating most of the stimulus to local charities.
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Post by marzbar71 on Apr 13, 2020 15:27:07 GMT
We just got a 20% paycut so my plan is to move it to savings to add to emergency fund that will likely need to be used to some extent over the next 6 months or so.
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Post by Zee on Apr 13, 2020 15:37:43 GMT
It's barely enough for rent for one month for many many people. I wish there was a way to cover everyone's housing costs right now until people get back to work.
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Post by sassyangel on Apr 13, 2020 15:46:39 GMT
I think the money will be spent by the majority. What do they classify as stimulating the economy though? Does spending it on necessities they normally would spend a paycheck on qualify as that? Or does stimulating it mean spending on non essentials?
We are fortunate enough to be able to save it, at the moment. We both think we might’ve dodged a bullet now, but don’t even remotely believe that global economic recovery will be quick. So it will be there in the eventuality, that the bullet comes for us.
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Post by tracyarts on Apr 13, 2020 15:50:00 GMT
I have to save it. I need dental work once the local dental clinics start scheduling non-emergency appointments again. And with my dental "insurance" plan being so shitty, I will need it all for the down payment.
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Post by sassyangel on Apr 13, 2020 15:51:18 GMT
I thought it phased out at one point until, for single earners, it phased out entirely at $99,000. That’s true. We won’t be getting as much as most because our adjusted gross income was higher for 2019, but we will still get some of it plus the $500 each for our two youngest children (but nothing for the two oldest who still live with us while they’re in school). The stimulus calculators I’ve used say my husband and I should receive about $2600 total. My husband is still safe and working in Afghanistan so we’re fine. The kids and I are planning on donating most of the stimulus to local charities. I think it’s a crock how they accounted for dependent children over the age of 16. It’s not based in realism at all. Likewise, I think the threshold not being adjusted for the states where 75k/150k is very solidly middle class is also a bit of a crock.
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Post by Rhondito on Apr 13, 2020 16:02:09 GMT
Nothing has changed for me regarding my income so I'm not spending mine. My 23yo daughter has been laid off from her job for weeks now and her unemployment hasn't started yet. She still has enough money for a couple of more months of bills, but if she ends up needing help I'll give mine to her. More likely, I'll end up giving it to my mother who is on Social Security.
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Post by huskermom98 on Apr 13, 2020 16:03:57 GMT
I think we'll be getting the full amount, but we don't "need" it since we're both still working. My first thought was that we'd use it for either our youngest son's tuition or our oldest son's first car (provided he can ever finish drivers ed & get a school permit) but DH mentioned saving it for a possible "save the little league" fund because if our neighborhood LL can't play this year & has to refund most/all of the registration fees there's a good chance they'll have to close without lots of outside aid.
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Post by femalebusiness on Apr 13, 2020 16:27:21 GMT
I don't need it and don't want it. There ain't no free lunch. Who do you think will have to pay that back? The taxpayers that’s who. Our taxes are going to go through the roof when this is all over.
What I'd really like to do is change it into rolls of quarters and send it to the White House with a request for someone to please shove the rolls up trump's ass.
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Post by Skellinton on Apr 13, 2020 17:32:12 GMT
Everyone who is getting one is getting the same. I thought it phased out at one point until, for single earners, it phased out entirely at $99,000. Yes, that is true. I just meant every adult person who qualifies will get 1200. Every child who qualifies will get 500. But every adult who is getting one is getting the same. Every child who gets one is getting the same (although it goes to their parents). Not everyone is getting one though.
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Post by busy on Apr 13, 2020 17:40:17 GMT
BEFORE coronavirus, only 40% of Americans could afford an unexpected $1000 expense. And now ~16 million new people have applied for unemployment since the lockdowns started.
Make no mistake, many many many many Americans will be spending these payments. Don't be deluded by your personal circle. And even then, no one wants to admit they are one missing paycheck from financial disaster, so you (general you) may not be getting accurate information when "everyone" says they're saving it.
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Post by busy on Apr 13, 2020 17:42:11 GMT
But every adult who is getting one is getting the same. This is not correct. source
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Apr 13, 2020 17:51:34 GMT
If this check was the only sort of relief available, it wouldn't be much of a stimulus because so many who receive it would have not choice but to use it for food, utilities, rent or some other necessity.
However, there is a pretty wide-ranging unemployment package that will help many (obviously not all) meet their immediate needs, and the assistance to small business to help them keep their employees working will also help. In that case, even those that "save" it will probably spend it once the country opens back up. And that is where the real stimulus will be felt--getting consumer spending back to a more "normal" level once the immediate crisis is over.
By sending it out now, it helps those who need it now and also sends a message to Wall Street that things will be getting back to "normal" again at some point in the near future.
Now whether that scenario works out the way it is hoped, who knows?
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Post by tracylynn on Apr 13, 2020 18:10:34 GMT
I think the money will be spent by most people. But not to stimulate the economy - to pay rent, bills, buy groceries. In my mind, a stimulus is meant to get your to buy things you wouldn't normally - new appliances, a fence (like someone upthread is going to do), new electronics, whatever.
When people are using it to just get by and pay bills and put food on the table, that's not a stimulus.
I'm lucky and am fine. According to online calculators I'll be getting about 50% of the total amount based on my income from 2019. It'll be saved.
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Post by Skellinton on Apr 13, 2020 18:50:29 GMT
But every adult who is getting one is getting the same. This is not correct. sourceI stand corrected, I thought if you made over a certain amount you just didn’t get one.
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