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Post by Coffee Mom on Jun 6, 2020 11:33:20 GMT
No, but the thought of us having it already sounds nice because then we already got it over with! (For a time, hopefully).
We were sick at least once a month since we had tons of exposure from the kids I babysat. Some of them were really nasty too.
I makes me wonder though. SO many people swear they had it all the way back in December. Like half the people I know swear they had it back then. If that were truly the case, wouldn’t our hospitals notice a huge overwhelm of something then? The funeral homes notice an unusual increase? I’m sure there could have been outlier cases but I don’t believe covid hit until it reportedly did.
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Post by lisae on Jun 6, 2020 11:34:18 GMT
Then you should have an antibody test to see. But I don't believe that most people who were sick last winter had Covid-19. If all these people I've heard say "I was so sick, I must have already had it" really did have the virus then someone around them would have gotten sick and had to be hospitalized or died.
I haven't heard any evidence that the virus was spreading in the US in early December. If it had been, imagine the spread that would have ignited during Christmas holiday travel and celebrations. Our hospitalization and death rates would have increased far earlier than the increases in March/April.
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Post by milocat on Jun 6, 2020 13:32:12 GMT
No. DH and I never even had a cold this winter, DD16 had a small cold. DD19 always gets a rundown day or two of body aches that starts a long cold.
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Post by Really Red on Jun 6, 2020 13:43:30 GMT
No. I think many people wish they’ve already had it but most have not, statistically speaking even in hard hit areas. Hah. I am one of them. I really, really hope I had it. I was in Europe over Christmas and when I came home I was so sick. I couldn't get off the couch and that is very unusual. What is more unusual is that I went to the doctor's. I cannot recall the last time ever in my life I went to the doctor's because I was sick. I had a very high fever and a cough that lasted weeks. I thought I was coughing up my lungs. My son had it, too, and he said that it was the weirdest sickness he had (this was prior to us hearing much about the coronavirus), but he's only 19, so I ignored him, but I, too, had never been sick like that.
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Post by ajsweetpea on Jun 6, 2020 14:05:28 GMT
My son was very sick in February with symptoms similar to the flu. He tested negative for the flu and his doctor said he had something viral. It took him a long time to recover. Around the same time, my daughter developed a bad cough. No one else in our family was sick. Is it possible they had Coronavirus? Maybe. Is it possible it was just something viral? Yes. Unfortunately they aren’t doing antibody testing for children here and even if they were, I don’t know if I’d take my kids for it because I hear it isn’t very accurate yet. So at this point, I’m going to just assume we haven’t had it and continue to be cautious.
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Post by aj2hall on Jun 6, 2020 14:56:08 GMT
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Post by artbabe on Jun 6, 2020 15:32:59 GMT
I've actually been healthier these past 3 months than I've been in a long time. Working from home has kept me from catching every little germ the students bring with them. Usually I don't go over a month or two without coming down with a cold, flu, pink eye, etc.
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Post by nogfz on Jun 6, 2020 15:57:53 GMT
According to this ARTICLE, it is suspected that the first case was on November 17, 2019. Being as how many had it and were asymptomatic, it's not entirely outside the realm of possibility for there to have been cases here in December.
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Post by MaryMary on Jun 6, 2020 17:03:21 GMT
The ten weeks I spent student teaching I was sick multiple times with a cough that eventually made me lose my voice (twice). But, that happens to me every flu season, this year it just happened more often because I was in the classroom. I don’t think I have already had Covid-19.
But, I would love it if I had, that would make going back to work in the fall much less stressful.
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Post by LeaP on Jun 6, 2020 17:15:05 GMT
My opinion depends on where you live. The earliest cases were in California and Washington. On the east coast, many of the cases came from Europe. My dad in NYC tested positve for covid antibodies. He was sick in April at the height of it. In spite of his numerous comorbidities he did not go to the hospital.
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Post by Peal on Jun 6, 2020 17:20:47 GMT
No. No one in my family has been sick for a long time. I don't personally know anyone who has tested positive or claims to have been sick with it but didn't get tested.
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Post by birdy on Jun 6, 2020 17:30:23 GMT
Possibly... DD and DS both had week long fevers of 101-103 (20 and 14 years old) in Nov. Terrible cough, aches... DD is also immunocompromised and hers seemed worse than DS. I took them both to the family Dr. first who diagnosed them with a virus and said no meds would help. She got worse so I took her to her immunologist. He said he just got over the same thing we were describing to him and that he'd been seeing a lot of patients with it with the two weeks prior to us going in. He said that he and none of his colleagues had any clue what exactly it was, so I'm wondering. I got something similar but not until January. DD missed another week of school around Valentines day due to similar symptoms again. So, not 100% sure, but could have been.
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Post by Ryann on Jun 6, 2020 17:30:45 GMT
I think it’s possible. DH and I flew from CA to FL on March 5 and went on a chartered cruise for 7 days out of Ft Lauderdale. We arrived back on March 14.
We were the last cruise to sail on the ship we were on. We spent 8 hours in a madhouse airport. Everyone that was coming home from cruises and everyone that was supposed to be leaving on a cruise but didn’t because they’d all been cancelled. The airport was packed!
Since coming home we’ve learned there were confirmed cases of Influenza A & B on board, in addition to C-19. The port and airport gate we went through also had confirmed C-19 cases during that time.
I got sick four days after arriving home with flu like symptoms (lasted 2-3 weeks), but not bad enough to seek medical attention. My most extreme symptom was lethargy. DH got mildly sick at the same time and had a different mix of symptoms than me. At that time testing was not available for our degree of symptoms, so we did not attempt to get tested. We self quarantined for 14 days then DH went back to work as essential and I have continued to stayed home.
So all that to say we definitely had ample places and time to be exposed to C-19, but it could easily be something else that made us sick.
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Post by pjaye on Jun 6, 2020 17:47:35 GMT
According to this ARTICLE, it is suspected that the first case was on November 17, 2019. Being as how many had it and were asymptomatic, it's not entirely outside the realm of possibility for there to have been cases here in December I can't read the article because it just leads to a "page not found" error. I don't know who wrote it or when but it was obviously speculation, numerous other scientists all say it did originate in the wet market. Also no-one yet knows what % of people are asymptomatic carriers, so how do you get "Being as how many had it and were asymptomatic"...how many? where are those number that you are supposedly quoting? You're just making that up because there are no definitive numbers - not even the scientists and researches know this yet, everything is speculation and will be for several years until there's enough numbers for it all to be analyzed properly. However they recently tested 10 million people in China in 19 days: 300 asymptomatic cases out of 10 million isn't "so many" and that's the figure in the middle of a pandemic, not at the start. So if only 27 people were infected that leaves us with less than one asymptomatic carrier likely to be around at that time. As for "it's not entirely outside the realm of possibility for there to have been cases here in December" Yes we can say it was outside the realm of possibility - even if there were a handful of cases in China in Dec, it's pretty much impossible that it was so widespread that people from all over the USA they had it and recovered and no-one noticed. *if* it was in the USA, it would have all been linked to one person and there would have been a cluster of cases all in the same area and all the people thinking they had it on this thread would all in the same vicinity and they would have a common contact (they would have ALL been on the same flight or cruise ship etc) - it would not be individual people scattered all over the country with no link between them, If it was picked up in China that this was a new virus when only relatively few people were infected then there's no way all these people in the USA had it in Dec and it didn't get the attention of doctors that something new was going on.
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Post by Lianna on Jun 6, 2020 18:25:49 GMT
If you want to be tested for antibodies, check your local blood donation center. I just donated through OneBlood and everyone who donates gets an antibody test. Still waiting on my results but I don't think I had Covid.
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Post by anniefb on Jun 6, 2020 21:35:17 GMT
No. The only thing I've had so far this year is a cold which went straight to my chest and I ended up with bad bronchitis for a few weeks. We're coming into winter now and colds and flu are much less prevalent generally due to our lockdown.
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Post by kelly8875 on Jun 6, 2020 23:39:48 GMT
I think DD and her boyfriend had it in February. She was the sickest I have seen her in YEARS. All the symptoms we are told come with COVID, and tested negative for influenza. her boyfriends mom is a nurse working with COVID patients at our local hospital, and is telling them that’s what they had. My DS then had something soon after them, but not quite as bad, but still very gross and flu like. I also think my DBF may have had it in January. He was very fly like, trouble breathing and also influenza negative. He was prescribed steroids and inhalers to get him through.
Somehow I didn’t get it from any of them.
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Post by shamrock on Jun 7, 2020 0:34:11 GMT
I would love to have DS tested for antibodies. He was so sick for a week in early February. In fact the group of guys he runs with (track & XC kids] all got sick. Most missed a week of school. One night we were about to take DS to the ER because he couldn’t stop coughing and had a hard time catching his breath. When he saw his doctor the flu test was negative. His doctor really thought he had the flu. Now all that said, I know there was a nasty bug going around. That’s probably what he had but it’d be kinda nice to know. The rest of us had a minor cold- cough, worn out, achy, but nowhere near as sick as DS.
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Jun 7, 2020 14:27:30 GMT
pjaye I'm not disputing what you've said, but there are pockets of asymptomatic "carriers". Our regional hospital 9 miles from me has been closed to all new patients for the past 2 weeks. All the nurses on the Covid wards were tested even though they were asymptomatic and all 17 tested positive. They went on to test all the staff, and 40% were asymptomatic and tested positive. This has not come from the media. My next door neighbour is an oncology consultant there. I don't trust what the media writes - in particular what comes out of China - but I do trust what she says. It's pushed the R in our region above 1. The south west has showed the lowest number of cases in the country, and now everybody is worrying.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jun 7, 2020 14:32:10 GMT
I was horribly sick in early March. Fatigue, fever. But... I don't think it was COVID-19. And, the antibody test is, as of now, fairly unreliable and really doesn't tell us much.
I think lots of us would like to think we have had it because it somehow "protects" us (like chicken pox) or that we can think "I made it through."
In reality, I think very few of us who were sick in the early winter would have had opportunity to be exposed.
Now, my brother and sister in law were both in New York and got home Feb. 28th. They were all over the city. As soon as they got home, they both got very sick (fever, cough, fatigue). This was before full stay-at-home in Chicago (that came 2 weeks later), but I think it's very possible they had mild cases. But, again, we don't know because there was virtually no testing at that time. They probably won't do the antibody test because we don't even know what it tells us yet.
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Post by peano on Jun 7, 2020 14:58:27 GMT
I’m having continued symptoms that I thought were related to complications from spine surgery. Now I’m thinking my symptoms may be the remainder of a COVID19 infection. I went to a first anniversary party of a brew pub on Saturday, February 29–wall to wall people, lots of close contact.
I started feeling crappy the following Wednesday—headache, sore throat, feeling feverish (we didn’t own a functional thermometer, so don’t know for sure). Later that day, woke up after falling asleep on the couch with extreme chills so violent I couldn’t control my body. Said, oh shit, if this is the flu, my surgery is going to be postponed. Went and had two flu tests-one instant, the other results back in a couple of days. Both were negative. Surgery went ahead as planned as I was feeling better by the following week.
So I know I have a paralyzed vocal chord from my two surgeries March 11 and March 15–confirmed by an ENT scoping me. But he told my neurosurgeon that is not the cause of my continued shortness of breath, dry cough and extreme fatigue. Last night it occurred to me to start reading accounts of people who have delayed symptoms after having coronavirus. Some of the symptoms are The same as mine. So the plan is for me to see a pulmonologist and have some pulmonary function tests done.
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Post by walkerdill on Jun 7, 2020 15:10:18 GMT
I went on a cruise February & came home so sick. I suspect it was Covid 19. I guess I will never know though.
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Post by pjaye on Jun 7, 2020 16:48:38 GMT
All the nurses on the Covid wards were tested even though they were asymptomatic and all 17 tested positive. They went on to test all the staff, and 40% were asymptomatic and tested positive. That isn't quite accurate. They initially only tested the limited group of staff that were in contact with the infected patients and it was supposedly 40% of that limited group that are positive - Not 40% of all staff at the hospital. If you have some positive patients and then you test all the staff that were in direct contact with those patients (and those staff then continue to have contact with each other), then you are going to catch some of those staff in the early stages before they get symptoms. That is not the same as testing all the staff in a hospital and saying 40% of them are positive with no symptoms. LINKThat hospital had a high number of covid patients and one hospital technician has already died from the disease. If they hadn't tested anyone for another 2 or 3 weeks then probably a lot more of those people would be symptomatic. That whole picture in that hospital is still emerging & the overall study is in it's early stages and has not had peer review LINK 2
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Post by pjaye on Jun 7, 2020 17:15:29 GMT
pjaye I'm not disputing what you've said, but there are pockets of asymptomatic "carriers" Plus you have misinterpreted what I was saying - I was talking specifically about people in the USA claiming they had corona virus in Nov & Dec when there were only a handful of cases detected in China at that stage. When there are only 27 known cases in one country of a brand new virus - then it is impossible that that there were a large numbers of asymptomatic carriers all over the USA/world infecting people.. I wasn't trying to make the point that there aren't any asymptomatic carriers, because we know for a fact that there are and there might be more than we first thought BUT in Nov & Dec when this virus was new there would not have been enough of them to go and spread it to multiple areas in the USA. Once that virus got a hold in Wuhan and thousands were infected and then some of those people travelled, and were on cruise ships & planes and had landed in other countries THEN people in other countries started getting infected, but that was mid Jan onwards. I'm not disputing anyone who thinks they may have caught it in late Jan/Feb/March etc of this year - I am only saying that people who were not in Wuhan/China & who were unwell in Nov & Dec of last year - didn't have covid-19.
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Jun 7, 2020 21:32:30 GMT
pjaye Ah, I hadn't realised that about the hospital. Thank you for clarifying. 40% is still a worryingly high percentage of asymptomatic (at that time) people though. And yes, I think that in all the blanket coverage about Covid and nothing else, we tend to forget about all the other random viruses which come round every year, that make people say they've never had/known anything quite like it. Covid spread through Wuhan and then China like wildfire - probably quicker and more than they are admitting/know. If it had arrived in the US that early in anywhere populated, anyone asymptomatic would have spread it quickly and the number of resulting deaths would have raised louder alarms than in China. Like in poor New York.
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Post by cindytred on Jun 8, 2020 1:44:39 GMT
I might have had it. I had swollen glands for a couple of weeks after the first of March. My dad passed away on 2/14 and my brother thinks it was COVID19. The other day my brother was tested to see if he had the antibody.
Cindy
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Post by Gennifer on Jun 8, 2020 3:57:24 GMT
No.
Also, I know SO MANY people who were convinced they had it. And yet, not a single one has tested positive for antibodies.
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Post by used2scrap on Jun 8, 2020 7:24:05 GMT
Yes. Ex got very ill mid March, after traveling and attending a conference. He tested positive for the antibodies last week. He is still having breathing problems. I got sick shortly after he did, and am still struggling with some lingering symptoms as well. I haven’t gone for a test though.
I’m not sure about the kids, we kept oldest isolated away from us for the month we were feverish, coughing all the time etc. He did have whatever the mystery ailment going around in Jan that tested negative for the flu after traveling.
Youngest DS tested positive for the flu mid March, a few days before we got sick. It was going around his school and he also had pneumonia as well. It depends on the Dr if they think he could have had Covid 19 also. There wasn’t local testing at the time to know.
Dd in early March spiked a fever, her kidneys started failing and they thought she had the measles for a brief time but no respiratory symptoms. As ex and I both got really sick and isolated and things shut down the drs appointments to figure her illness out dried up (the measles test did come back negative). She’s somewhat better now but still not 100% exhaustion wise either. She did have a classmate who tested positive for Covid (they had a positive tested parent who caught it at work) the end of March, so she was exposed.
So really who knows. I guess the kids and I need to try to track down an antibody test but I haven’t really had the energy and they still seem so unreliable.
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Post by worldwanderer75 on Jun 8, 2020 10:45:16 GMT
Maybe. My husband and I both had a horrible respiratory thing in December. I haven't been that sick in a very long time. We live overseas in a predominantly expat community so people are normally traveling all over the world at any given time. We've wondered if someone brought an early case back from their travels and we somehow got it. We were on an anniversary getaway during part of it and ended up spending the entire weekend in bed sleeping and ordering room service.
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Post by Dallie on Jun 8, 2020 12:04:48 GMT
My husband's boss had it in mid-late December. At the time, the doctors did not know what it was. He knew he was sicker than he had ever been in his life and was afraid he was going to die. After COVID and the antibody test came, his doctor called him and had him take an antibody test. It showed that he had it.
So if you can believe the antibody test, it seems that my husband was exposed to it. If he had it, then the timing was such that everyone in our family would have been exposed it at during our Christmas together. No one had any symptoms.
We both have trouble believing he was exposed in the sense that he is the canary in them mine -- the one most likely to get any kind of respiratory bug and when he does, he is very sick due to his asthma. So he either didn't get it or he was asymptomatic and was very lucky. His doctor said she does not believe the antibody tests are reliable enough to take at this time.
It is quite plausible that his boss did have COVID. They work with someone who travels frequently to Asia and had done so shortly before he came down with the illness.
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