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Post by dewryce on Jun 8, 2020 12:21:32 GMT
There was an awful cold/virus that went around here in January, it’s the sickest I’ve been in years. About half the people at work had it and we all needed 3-4 days off work. I believe this is the same horrible illness other people have mentioned and I don’t believe it was covid at all. In our house it was mid January - mid February and with a DH who is almost never sick, and me who never gets cold-like illnesses. It was terrible in general, we can’t remember ever being so sick and for that duration and the coughing was non-stop for weeks! The thing is, it was rampant throughout his nursing home among patients and staff with only one person requiring a brief hospitalization. That alone makes me seriously doubt it was COVID19. So I agree with the above.
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Post by auntkelly on Jun 8, 2020 13:04:14 GMT
link to Fauci interview
In a recent interview Dr. Fauci said that it now appears that 25-50% of those who have covid are asymptomatic. He talks about antibody testing in the article.
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Post by tuva42 on Jun 8, 2020 19:30:54 GMT
Funny you should ask about this. We have been joking in our family that we think our 21 year old DD had it back in February. She flew the 2nd and 3rd weekends in February to grad school interviews with super long delays, stuck in airports in Chicago and Indianapolis for hours at a time on both trips. Right about that time it came out that North Carolina had their first case of the virus in a man who had been visiting a relative at the nursing home in WA where it all seemed to start. Surely, the man had to fly to get back to NC from WA, right? And it was right at the time she was stuck in those airports. She ended up getting a cold with a bad cough that lasted over 2 weeks. She moved home in late March. Now she's dying to get antibody tests for all of us, assuming that if hers is positive and the rest of us are negative then our joking theory about her getting it from that one guy in the airport might be true.
I have a friend who was sick in January with a cough so bad she tore a muscle in her chest. She's convinced she had it. But I'm wondering, if all these folks had this virus long before we knew it was in our communities, then where were all the extra deaths and extra hospitalizations?
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Post by MizIndependent on Jun 8, 2020 20:21:40 GMT
Then you should have an antibody test to see. But I don't believe that most people who were sick last winter had Covid-19. If all these people I've heard say "I was so sick, I must have already had it" really did have the virus then someone around them would have gotten sick and had to be hospitalized or died. I haven't heard any evidence that the virus was spreading in the US in early December. If it had been, imagine the spread that would have ignited during Christmas holiday travel and celebrations. Our hospitalization and death rates would have increased far earlier than the increases in March/April.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jun 8, 2020 20:31:03 GMT
Yes January 2 I was talking to BFF, the nurse, on the phone and told her about these aches and chills coming over me and how sick I felt. I can also retrace my contact slot toa hot spot here. It’s over. I was sick for 2 weeks and got better.
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Post by aj2hall on Jun 8, 2020 20:46:18 GMT
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Post by msliz on Jun 8, 2020 21:07:12 GMT
I was very sick in January, and was still feeling effects through March. Even now in June, my heart rate goes up with just normal stress or even the slightest bit of exercise, though I can breathe just fine now, unlike January. Or it could be a side effect of a medication I started around that time.
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Post by sam9 on Jun 8, 2020 21:17:23 GMT
We haven’t had even one sniffle this year and neither has anyone else I know. I’ve had flu three times in my life, the last time 2-1/2 years ago, and all three times I couldn’t get out of bed for two weeks and was still coughing weeks later. I am a very healthy person with no allergies, sinus problems or underlying conditions. I have never been able to understand how some people only have the flu for 2-3 days. All three times I wanted to just die.
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Post by christine58 on Jun 8, 2020 21:17:51 GMT
So if you can believe the antibody test, it seems that my husband was exposed to it It shows exposure???
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 8, 2020 22:07:04 GMT
I had one of the worst headaches in my life for like a week straight. And I’ve been a chronic migraine sufferer so that’s saying a lot. Some people mentioned the worst headache ever as a covid symptom. We stay pretty close to home and I had no other symptoms and no one in my home had anything so it’s unlikely, but the thought did cross my mind. me, too! It was a headache that wouldn't go away, and it was just *different* than my usual sinus or migraine headaches. That, plus a BAD sore throat that lasted forever (and I never get sore throats) made me wonder... along with the information about blood abnormalities and the possibility of having a stroke from covid (I've already had a stroke- don't want to have another one). With all those things put together, I called the hotline, got an appointment, and got tested. I was negative. thankfully. I think it was just a combination of stress and worse-than-normal spring allergies. But I was worried for a while.
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Post by pjaye on Jun 9, 2020 0:01:56 GMT
Then you should have an antibody test to see. But I don't believe that most people who were sick last winter had Covid-19. If all these people I've heard say "I was so sick, I must have already had it" really did have the virus then someone around them would have gotten sick and had to be hospitalized or died. I haven't heard any evidence that the virus was spreading in the US in early December. If it had been, imagine the spread that would have ignited during Christmas holiday travel and celebrations. Our hospitalization and death rates would have increased far earlier than the increases in March/April.
Firstly those articles aren't written by doctors or researchers, they are written by reporters/journalists and published online on websites called "Business Insider" etc. Hardly creditable sources in the midst of a pandemic with a new virus. They are just lay people speculating about things and creating a story not based in scientific fact - and we know this because at this point there isn't enough "fact" for those types of assumptions. Secondly - did you read the articles? despite the sensationalist headings they don't even provide any facts that the virus in the USA at that time. That first article doesn't even back up the heading's claim that the virus was in the USA, in fact it says: Nothing about it being in the USA in Dec. Then the other says 2 people got sick by something unknown in Dec...then months later tested positive for antibodies...that isn't even a cogent argument, there is no proof that illness created those antibodies. They could have caught it 2 weeks before they were tested. Even IN the article itself it says: So if you just google for a headline you want (and anyone can find anything on line to back up a point of view - (I could link articles saying the earth is flat) You need to look at things written by doctors/scientists/researchers etc not just journalists writing for non creditable websites. Anyone can start a website and put 'science' in the heading, that doesn't make it factual. next look at WHO is writing those those things, is it the medical staff and researchers in the center of this, or is it some 25yo with a journalism making a 'story' out of different articles he found on line? Finally read them - they aren't even making the points you think they are.
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Post by mcjunkin on Jun 9, 2020 0:45:52 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Jun 9, 2020 2:59:56 GMT
I recognize that the information from China can’t be trusted. However, speculating that Covid was in China in October based on counting cars in parking lots? Sorry, that hardly seems like proof.
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Post by mcjunkin on Jun 9, 2020 13:15:56 GMT
I recognize that the information from China can’t be trusted. However, speculating that Covid was in China in October based on counting cars in parking lots? Sorry, that hardly seems like proof. I am not throwing the article out there as proof. I have no opinion one way or the other, really. Just thought it was an interesting read related to the discussion.
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Post by aj2hall on Jun 9, 2020 16:52:21 GMT
I agree that it’s interesting and relevant but also purely speculation.
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Post by kernriver on Jun 9, 2020 18:27:49 GMT
My husband was as sick as I have ever seen him in 36 years. He actually stayed home for a week. In the 36 years I’ve known him I think he’s taken maybe 3 sick days. It was around the end of last year, before we knew about covid. I was around him and didn’t get it. At the time I thought it was because I had gotten a flu shot. He hadn’t.
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