S/O Melania's Uniform Look- Bette Midler's Ugly Tweets

I don't think Bette should have tweeted that, or she should have included a disclaimer along the lines of "Sounds ugly when it's used against someone you love, doesn't it Donald?" to make the point that she was just throwing his own shit back at him.

But the point wouldn't matter anyway. The old IOKIYAR applies, because their situation is always "different" than the ones they complain about. So this kind of tweet comes across as ugly and doesn't accomplish anything except get a few "attaboys" from some on the left who want to stick it to trump. Believe me, I want to stick it to him, too, but the best way to do it is at the ballot box, and tweets like this don't help us reach that goal.

I'll worry about chastising the entertainer Bette Middler after the Republican party deals with the vile, hateful, racist rhetoric of the Trump family members.

I call bullshit.   Being better doesn't equal meek and quiet and getting stomped over.  It's high time we fight like hell against Trump and his fellow minions!

I doubt he will-  but that doesn't mean every other Democrat has to be all sweetness and light an be a doormat, does it?  I sure as hell hope NOT.  

And it's not only 'foreigners' that DT mocks with the way they talk, act, and look... he's mocked PLENTY of US citizens, with ALL sorts of insults that wouldn't be acceptable coming from most kindergartners, or even pre-schoolers.  But somehow because he's the President* (and she's his wife) that makes him/them off limits?  I call BS. 

I thought we wanted to raise the level of civility. Is this the tolerant left as opposed to our Twitter-Troll-in-Chief? It's a fourth grade argument to claim that bad behavior is ok because someone else is doing it. Why the hell was she watching the RNC Convention anyway unless she just wanted to b*tch about it? Does her TV not have other channels? I hear Netflix is good, Bette.

What Bette Midler said was ugly and beneath her. I didn't think we use the words "illegal immigrant" anymore. Not voting for Melania's husband, but I don't think it's fair to come at her about her accent or where she came from. Maybe she's right, we should Be Better. The level of vitriol in this country is appalling. Hateful, hateful people on both sides taking shots at each other. No excuse. It's awful.

I 100% agree with you. I try to respond respectfully to argumentative people here and on social media ... although I won’t claim to always win that battle. Until this president, I insisted on respect for the presidency from my kids no matter how much we disliked and disagreed with him (i.e., during the Bush administration). 

But I think people’s nerves are on their last edge with this administration, with good reason. I am not going to be shocked or disapproving when they respond on his own terms. 

I don’t agree with everything Bette Miller said in her tweets ... but I wouldn’t start a thread complaining about it, either. Why bother, unless you’re going to complain every time Trump opens his trap and says something inappropriate?

Also, the “I really don’t care — do u?” lady doesn’t really need defending from the public. She’s made her feelings clear, no matter what she says in public.


ETA I forgot to say, I do think making fun of her accent or anyone’s is dreadful behavior. That’s not the same thing as mocking their words or actions.

I cringe every time anyone goes after a president’s family. If they say something ridiculous or ignorant, cool... talk about that. But their looks or what they wear should be out of bounds. (I mean, except for the weird I Don’t Care jacket that was obviously trying to send someone a message. She knew people would talk about that, so I am not fussed that they did.)

It’s clearly not for trump, and pretty much every republican right now.

Look at the RNC and tell me how to reconcile that!

Part of the reason Trump won the 2016 nomination in the first place was because all the rest of the candidates were so taken aback by his gutter behavior and didn’t really know how fight back ... or have any experience in or desire for really getting down to his level.

Sometimes going low instead of high is what is needed. Some situations are just that dire. He wins when everyone else sits there speechless because they can’t believe what he just said.

And FYI, sarcastic references to the “tolerant left” are not all that nice, either. Maybe you would like to spend a little time examining your understanding of what tolerance really means.

I missed the part where I told her not to start a thread about it.

I did respond to her question, “what about Bette Midler’s tweets?” by pointing out that she doesn’t bother starting threads about Trump’s daily rudeness. Why would anyone even notice/care at this point? We’ve been hardened by our president’s daily unspeakable behavior.

I’m sorry if it was unclear to you.

I think you just proved what I said. All the talk of bringing the nation together, healing, is it just talk or do we really mean it? We can’t  use Trump’s bad behavior as an excuse to “go low” and still come together. Are we only tolerant of what we agree with or do we really want to have a peaceful nation? We should be able to disagree without being disagreeable, but that doesn’t happen much anymore. That’s my understanding of tolerance.

I totally get Bette’s sarcasm. It was spot on. This could well have the wrong results, though.

Think about how the right clung to the “ basket of deplorables” comment, took it entirely out of context and used it to bolster their determination to “ own the libs “.