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Post by Tearisci on Aug 26, 2020 18:10:07 GMT
We have been discussing this on the Melania thread and I didn't see one started for this. What about Bette Midler's ugly tweets during Melania's speech? "Get that illegal immigrant off the stage" "She still can't speak English!" linkI looked for a thread and hopefully this isn't a double post. Edited to correct link
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Post by rodeomom on Aug 26, 2020 18:17:14 GMT
The other thread was the first I heard of it. Your link just comes back to this thread.
But if she said that, it's not a nice thing to say.
But I'm not to worked up about it considering what has come our of their mouths.
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Post by Tearisci on Aug 26, 2020 18:23:24 GMT
The other thread was the first I heard of it. Your link just comes back to this thread. Thanks! I fixed it.
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Post by pinklady on Aug 26, 2020 18:25:33 GMT
This tweet is factually correct with an opinion thrown in.
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Post by sassyangel on Aug 26, 2020 18:28:45 GMT
This tweet is factually correct with an opinion thrown in. The opinion is ugly, and yes I can see what point she was making. I say that as an *alien* immigrant. It confirms every thought I’ve ever had that that word, is just plain ugly and demeaning, though.
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Post by hop2 on Aug 26, 2020 18:30:07 GMT
Bette Midler was out of line.
But she is not the president, not the First Lady, not my congress person, nor my senator so I’m not really going to do much about her tweet that thousands of others have not already done, - respond on twitter.
She’s getting her deserved backlash on social media for being a xenophobic big mouth. She should apologize.
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Post by Skellinton on Aug 26, 2020 18:30:56 GMT
This tweet is factually correct with an opinion thrown in. The opinion is ugly, and yes I can see what point she was making. I say that as an *alien* immigrant. It confirms every thought I’ve ever had that that word, is just plain ugly and demeaning, though. Do you think Bette used that word because that is what Trump would say if it were a Democrat though? That is the way I take it. She used the word “uge” a total Trumpism that I imagine she doesn’t typically use and all the exclamation marks, another Trump tool. I think she was mocking what he would have said had Biden married an immigrant and had her on stage. And that tweet certainly isn’t as nasty and offensive as it was being made to be, imho.
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Post by Tearisci on Aug 26, 2020 18:31:44 GMT
Bette Midler was out of line. But she is not the president, not the First Lady, not my congress person, nor my senator so I’m not really going to do much about her tweet that thousands of others have not already done, - respond on twitter. She’s getting her deserved backlash on social media for being a xenophobic big mouth. She should apologize. I agree. I don't care that the "other side" is routinely nasty, but that doesn't make this right.
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Post by Tearisci on Aug 26, 2020 18:33:10 GMT
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Post by pjaye on Aug 26, 2020 18:34:10 GMT
What, you mean the part about liking Bette even more now after those tweets?
Good for her...I'm glad some famous people tweet what many of us are thinking.
Let's also point out the Bette is 100% right, all the resources she has available to her and yet Melania's public speaking hasn't improved one bit. If I started a new job and there was something in that job that I was new to & wasn't particularly good at...I sure as hell would make sure I was much better at it 4 years later...if not I'm sure any boss would have something to say about it. Melania is still as shit at public speaking as the day that pig husband of hers was elected, and as much as he goes on and on about immigrants assimilating into American culture, her English should definitely be much better by now. What has she done these last four years? She sure hasn't been out improving her English by getting out and meeting people and using her position for any good. She's plagiarized some speeches, done some butt ugly decorating and lately ripped up a rose garden.
Any criticism she gets is well deserved.
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Post by ~summer~ on Aug 26, 2020 18:34:40 GMT
Bette Midler is using those ugly words because those are the words Trump uses. She is mocking them and would never use those words herself. That’s my take at least.
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Post by amom23 on Aug 26, 2020 18:35:14 GMT
Who cares what Bette Midler has to say? Why should she have to apologize to the world? There are plenty of people spouting off their opinions on social media. Some I agree with and some I don't.
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Post by sassyangel on Aug 26, 2020 18:37:49 GMT
I’m going to add, my native tongue is English. But I speak with an accent where I constantly have to repeat myself and spell out words (even after 18 years here) because people here STILL have a hard time with it.
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Post by J u l e e on Aug 26, 2020 18:38:55 GMT
Damn. I wish every single person could rise above ugliness. All of us. I don’t care who you are or who else has been ugly. I can’t stand name calling, shots at appearance, or mocking. I know when I’ve done it I just added ugly to ugly and ended up feeling ugly. Not something I want.
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Post by sassyangel on Aug 26, 2020 18:41:07 GMT
The opinion is ugly, and yes I can see what point she was making. I say that as an *alien* immigrant. It confirms every thought I’ve ever had that that word, is just plain ugly and demeaning, though. Do you think Bette used that word because that is what Trump would say if it were a Democrat though? That is the way I take it. She used the word “uge” a total Trumpism that I imagine she doesn’t typically use and all the exclamation marks, another Trump tool. I think she was mocking what he would have said had Biden married an immigrant and had her on stage. And that tweet certainly isn’t as nasty and offensive as it was being made to be, imho. Well maybe you have to be an immigrant who constantly has to repeat yourself, to really feel the sting of it? And I speak English, I can only imagine how much harder it is, for those for whom it’s a second language.
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Post by janeliz on Aug 26, 2020 18:42:45 GMT
I just don’t care. I really don’t. It didn’t make me laugh. She tweeted later that she was wrong to make fun of the accent.
I assume she was attempting to be humorous and make a statement about what some Republicans, including Trump himself, might say about Melania if she weren’t a beautiful, fair-skinned, former model married to a powerful man. I doubt Bette Midler is typically xenophobic, and I don’t feel compelled at all to be outraged on Melania Trump’s behalf.
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Post by Tearisci on Aug 26, 2020 18:43:30 GMT
Damn. I wish every single person could rise above ugliness. All of us. I don’t care who you are or who else has been ugly. I can’t stand name calling, shots at appearance, or mocking. I know when I’ve done it I just added ugly to ugly and ended up feeling ugly. Not something I want. This.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 26, 2020 18:44:21 GMT
Bette Midler is using those ugly words because those are the words Trump uses. She is mocking them and would never use those words herself. That’s my take at least. Unfortunately, she is using words that trump has uttered and Meliana supports right back at them. I believe she is mocking them. But then again, it appears that we only DEMAND professionalism, kindness, love and light from the leftist, libtard, crazy demoncrats, right? The liberals are not allowed to "counterpunch" anything that is being dished out. Seriously, take a look at EVERY.SINGLE.PERSON speaking at the RNC right now, this week. Every last fucking one of them has nastily, horrenously, LYING, and gaslighting, attacked the Democrats. What are we supposed to do? Take it up the ass as we have been???
I say fuck that.
They get ZERO empathy, sympathy, anything of that sort to me. The are now reaping exactly what they sow.
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Post by pjaye on Aug 26, 2020 18:45:26 GMT
know when I’ve done it I just added ugly to ugly and ended up feeling ugly Just because you do, doesn't mean others do. When I spout off about misogynist, racist, bullying cheaters and liars...it makes me feel GOOD.
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Post by Skellinton on Aug 26, 2020 18:49:16 GMT
Do you think Bette used that word because that is what Trump would say if it were a Democrat though? That is the way I take it. She used the word “uge” a total Trumpism that I imagine she doesn’t typically use and all the exclamation marks, another Trump tool. I think she was mocking what he would have said had Biden married an immigrant and had her on stage. And that tweet certainly isn’t as nasty and offensive as it was being made to be, imho. Well maybe you have to be an immigrant who constantly has to repeat yourself, to really feel the sting of it? And I speak English, I can only imagine how much harder it is, for those for whom it’s a second language. I was only speaking about the initial tweet, the second tweet was posted after I posted and I had not seen that one. I do think the second tweet was uncalled for and rude. I have said as much to other peas in the past when they belittle her accent. That is not ok.
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Post by tracylynn on Aug 26, 2020 18:49:36 GMT
Bette Midler is using those ugly words because those are the words Trump uses. She is mocking them and would never use those words herself. That’s my take at least. Unfortunately, she is using words that trump has uttered and Meliana supports right back at them. I believe she is mocking them. But then again, it appears that we only DEMAND professionalism, kindness, love and light from the leftist, libtard, crazy demoncrats, right? The liberals are not allowed to "counterpunch" anything that is being dished out. Seriously, take a look at EVERY.SINGLE.PERSON speaking at the RNC right now, this week. Every last fucking one of them has nastily, horrenously, LYING, and gaslighting, attacked the Democrats. What are we supposed to do? Take it up the ass as we have been???
I say fuck that.
They get ZERO empathy, sympathy, anything of that sort to me. The are now reaping exactly what they sow.
I agree ... she's mocking them with the very words they have both used in the past. As far as her being illegal, honestly, before she married him, I'm not so sure she wasn't. It's already been stated that she was here on a questionable visa. What's good for the goose and all ...
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Post by J u l e e on Aug 26, 2020 18:51:17 GMT
know when I’ve done it I just added ugly to ugly and ended up feeling ugly Just because you do, doesn't mean others do. Goes without saying. I was simply speaking for myself. And my wish for Julee’s LaLa Land where we all live in harmony and sing Kumbaya. Let a girl dream 😊
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Post by Olan on Aug 26, 2020 18:57:50 GMT
She has always been problematic The tweet is hella factual though 🤷🏾♀️
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Post by PeachStatePea on Aug 26, 2020 19:04:21 GMT
Biden married an immigrant and had her on stage. What does this mean? Jill Biden was born in New Jersey.
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Post by oh yvonne on Aug 26, 2020 19:06:15 GMT
Bette Midler posts stuff like this all the time. I get it that she hates her but making fun of her accent is beyond and makes her no better than DT doing it, which I abhor.
I'm glad she's being called out for all of it. She's an asshole.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 19:06:31 GMT
I was reading those tweets last night and I don’t have a problem with them. She is reacting to what we see and hear on a daily basis from trump & company. And last night’s events were even more disgusting than usual.
People are fed up with it and it just keeps coming. So people are reacting by taking the filter off their comments more then they have in the past. And people have different ways of doing it and being outspoken as she tends to be, Bette Midler did it her way.
Walter Shaub, the ethics, guy was so upset with all the violations of the Hatch Act going on last night at The White House I thought he was going to storm the place.
Rachel Maddow tries to come across as somewhat neutral as she does her stories on “what trump has done now” but over the months and months of reporting on this stuff you can see how disgusted she has become by his actions. In other words she isn’t hiding it well.
This is just a couple of example of people having a enough of trump, his family and the corrupt minions he surrounds himself with.
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Post by sassyangel on Aug 26, 2020 19:12:35 GMT
The attitude about accents she’s definitely not alone or even a minority in. Just my 1c worth on that. 😕
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Post by pancakes on Aug 26, 2020 19:13:06 GMT
Biden married an immigrant and had her on stage. What does this mean? Jill Biden was born in New Jersey. @skellinton’s original post said Trump would’ve said the same thing HAD Biden married an immigrant, etc.
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Post by LuvAgoodPaddle on Aug 26, 2020 19:40:48 GMT
Calling someone an illegal alien is racist. Does it matter if it's true, mocking or joking?
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Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 26, 2020 19:44:28 GMT
I have mixed feelings really. In my perfect world, I'd live in Lalaland with J u l e e. Where people are nice and the roses are made of candy. On the other hand, Trump is truly an ugly, ugly human being. The things he says make my skin crawl. It really bothers me that he is basically left unchecked to spout off and no one is supposed to dish it back? I'm nice, but I'm human. And at this point, I'm stretched to the brink on being nice to assholes. And truthfully, I'm pretty good about being nice even to assholes.
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