Rush to get vaccine - Would you?

ditto....I won't under his administration.  He's proven that he can't be trusted.

I would wait until (hopefully) the Biden Administration had restored order and process and science.

Me too.

my understanding is by "rushing" the vaccine in the states that meant ordering vaccines that look promising into production even though the testing isn't completed yet. the bill for this was being paid by the government for selected pharmaceutical companies that looked like they had promising options after initial testing.

that way, once testing HAS been completing, that production for "the one" will have already been done and it will be ready to start sending out and administering immediately once it has the green light in an attempt to avoid additional production and logistics delays.

i thought the standard and accepted testing procedures would still be in place and observed... but i am by no means a subject matter expert, just listened to a podcast about it recently on the daily (the nyt podcast).

(as a canadian, i will get it when recommended by health canada - i assume others with compromised immune systems, asthma, etc. will come before me)

Just remember...average joe will not be first to get it. First responders/front line workers will be along with the elderly. I will not get it until my niece says it's safe. She a pharmaceutical scientist at UNC Chapel Hill working on her PhD...studying Pharmacoengineering and Molecular Pharmaceutics 

This is an article discussing the process with the head of the FDA. As long as I feel like the FDA is looking at science and not politics, I would (in theory, the reality is I'm not going to be offered it for a good long while).


www.cnbc.com/2020/08/30/fda-willing-to-fast-track-coronavirus-vaccine-before-phase-three-trials.html

i read somewhere that it takes the FDA something like 10 years to approve a new ingredient to sunscreens.  just one ingredient, not the whole formula. this vaccine is not topical. it is injected into our system. i would be more than a little suspicious of one that was rushed and released before the results of usual human trials were released. i'd be terrified if the FDA was able to be strong armed for political reasons.  some institutions, like the post office, the FDA, the CDC should remain far from the reach of political strong arm and influence.

There's actually a long convoluted history on sunscreens and the FDA-I only know about it as a friend used to work in the industry. In a nutshell there are a few new compounds used in other countries that have not been approved by the FDA and the manufacturers don't actually want to go through clinical trials to provide the data the FDA has asked for and instead rely on their use in other countries. It's basically a standoff rather than a decade long process. you can read more about it here:


cen.acs.org/articles/93/i20/Decade-FDA-Still-Wont-Allow.html

I don't disagree that the FDA should not be politicized.

No, I will not IF I feel it’s a vaccine released by the FDA solely for political gain. I am increasingly concerned about this, unfortunately.

I don't want to rush to get a new vaccine with no track record. If I'm forced to get it, I guess I'll be a guinea pig. I haven't gotten the virus yet despite all this exposure so I'm not particularly worried about it.

I understand the rush but it seems like cutting steps may not be safe. I’m not in a huge hurry at this point until I feel it is safe. I don’t trust Trump and his motivations. When I saw that they may release it before phase three was complete I instantly thought of Russia. I’m hoping we have a safe one within a year though.

ETA: I would be more likely to trust the one from Oxford than what we are doing right now. I just feel like it’s being rushed more for his bragging rights or for some monetary gain vs for trying to save lives. I understand everyone is trying to create it as soon as possible but it just seems Trump sees it more as a way to gain something vs helping people.

Knowing that they're willing to skip testing worries me.

I get shorter testing times or less people or even less peer review, but skipping? That instills less confidence.

If it has the Trump stamp of approval and miraculously arrives before November 3rd, I would greet it with the skepticism it deserves.

In the long run, it's been suggested that there won't be a long term vaccine so much as a yearly or biannual booster shot. It will be something we schedule as we do our flu shots. It needs robust testing to determine both safety and efficacy. Plus covid may mutate making it a necessity to adjust the shot with the seasons. What a godawful mess.