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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 31, 2020 23:05:04 GMT
Just remember...average joe will not be first to get it. First responders/front line workers will be along with the elderly. I will not get it until my niece says it's safe. She a pharmaceutical scientist at UNC Chapel Hill working on her PhD...studying Pharmacoengineering and Molecular Pharmaceutics Good; you can let us know when it’s safe.
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Aug 31, 2020 23:12:36 GMT
I would not get it now, during Trump.
I would consider it after a shortened trial period and post Trump.
I would wait until after a full trial before I’d have my kids get it.
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Post by LuvAgoodPaddle on Aug 31, 2020 23:26:39 GMT
I would wait until (hopefully) the Biden Administration had restored order and process and science. I only quoted this one because it was the first comment with this. I'm curious if those that feel this way expect that all the work that has been done up to that point should be all tossed and new administration start over from scratch again? Because at that point it will be upwards of 10 months of any advancements and money towards a vaccine being thrown away. Would the only way to restore order, process and science in your minds would be to 100% fire everyone, throw away all the work and start over since they are all working under Trump currently?
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Post by katlady on Aug 31, 2020 23:32:50 GMT
I would wait until (hopefully) the Biden Administration had restored order and process and science. I only quoted this one because it was the first comment with this. I'm curious if those that feel this way expect that all the work that has been done up to that point should be all tossed and new administration start over from scratch again? Because at that point it will be upwards of 10 months of any advancements and money towards a vaccine being thrown away. Would the only way to restore order, process and science in your minds would be to 100% fire everyone, throw away all the work and start over since they are all working under Trump currently? I think a new administration can review the data to date, and decide how far along they are in the testing process and how much more needs to be done. I don’t believe in throwing away all the work done to date. Just having new eyes look at the results, and continue with the testing period that should be followed and not rushed.
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Post by psiluvu on Sept 1, 2020 0:16:34 GMT
I thought several vaccines are already in the final testing phase? I'm in Canada and I'll get it as soon as Health Canada recommends it.
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Post by snyder on Sept 1, 2020 0:17:50 GMT
I was at my dentist this afternoon and he said he would be first in line.
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Post by christine58 on Sept 1, 2020 0:20:03 GMT
Just remember...average joe will not be first to get it. First responders/front line workers will be along with the elderly. I will not get it until my niece says it's safe. She a pharmaceutical scientist at UNC Chapel Hill working on her PhD...studying Pharmacoengineering and Molecular Pharmaceutics Good; you can let us know when it’s safe. Will do...
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Post by tracylynn on Sept 1, 2020 0:23:07 GMT
I would wait until (hopefully) the Biden Administration had restored order and process and science. I only quoted this one because it was the first comment with this. I'm curious if those that feel this way expect that all the work that has been done up to that point should be all tossed and new administration start over from scratch again? Because at that point it will be upwards of 10 months of any advancements and money towards a vaccine being thrown away. Would the only way to restore order, process and science in your minds would be to 100% fire everyone, throw away all the work and start over since they are all working under Trump currently? No, I think the work is still valid. I just think this Admin is trying to short cut the process and skip importent steps so he can say there was a vaccine before the election.
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Post by lisae on Sept 1, 2020 1:27:44 GMT
A vaccine before election day is Trump's only card left and he knows it.
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Post by LuvAgoodPaddle on Sept 1, 2020 2:50:56 GMT
I think a new administration can review the data to date, and decide how far along they are in the testing process and how much more needs to be done. I don’t believe in throwing away all the work done to date. Just having new eyes look at the results, and continue with the testing period that should be followed and not rushed. Ok, I get that. I would like to believe that all of our elite scientists are all currently working on this! No matter their political affiliation. I don't believe Biden is a scientist, so do you think he has a bunch of top scientists hidden somewhere? Who would be these "new eyes"? Or do you think we do not currently have all of our top scientists working on this? Because I really want to believe all of them are working on this right now.
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Post by katlady on Sept 1, 2020 3:56:17 GMT
I think a new administration can review the data to date, and decide how far along they are in the testing process and how much more needs to be done. I don’t believe in throwing away all the work done to date. Just having new eyes look at the results, and continue with the testing period that should be followed and not rushed. Ok, I get that. I would like to believe that all of our elite scientists are all currently working on this! No matter their political affiliation. I don't believe Biden is a scientist, so do you think he has a bunch of top scientists hidden somewhere? Who would be these "new eyes"? Or do you think we do not currently have all of our top scientists working on this? Because I really want to believe all of them are working on this right now. www.nytimes.com/2020/08/10/health/stephen-hahn-fda.html"Many medical experts — including members of his own staff — worry about whether Dr. Hahn, despite his good intentions, has the fortitude and political savvy to protect the scientific integrity of the F.D.A. from the president." The problem is not the scientist working on the vaccine, the problem is the administration of the FDA getting pressure from the President to get the vaccine approved NOW!
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Post by jackietex on Sept 1, 2020 4:40:05 GMT
I don't trust trump, he just tends to get his way, one way or the other. If it looks fast-tracked, or Fauci doesn't firmly support it, I will wait. I'm interested to see what happens when a vaccine is released, early or late, since it seems like most (or at least a lot) of the Republicans that I know have said they do not plan to ever get it.
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Post by auntkelly on Sept 1, 2020 4:41:45 GMT
I’ll do my own research when the vaccine becomes available and discuss it with my doctor before making up my mind whether to take the vaccine.
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Post by schizo319 on Sept 1, 2020 11:30:12 GMT
Depends on a lot of factors for me. Which vaccine, who developed it, what kind of testing HAS there been, are other countries using it, what are the observations from the first phases of development/testing, how successful do they predict it to be, what kind of side effects have already been shown, etc.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 8, 2020 23:00:22 GMT
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Post by peano on Sept 8, 2020 23:30:00 GMT
If it has the Trump stamp of approval and miraculously arrives before November 3rd, I would greet it with the skepticism it deserves. In the long run, it's been suggested that there won't be a long term vaccine so much as a yearly or biannual booster shot. It will be something we schedule as we do our flu shots. It needs robust testing to determine both safety and efficacy. Plus covid may mutate making it a necessity to adjust the shot with the seasons. What a godawful mess. I believe someone in Nevada has had Covid twice--two different strains, so that suggests it won't be one and done, but rather more like the flu vaccine.
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Post by Just T on Sept 8, 2020 23:35:11 GMT
What I find so "interesting" about Trump doing his best to get a vaccine out before the election is that not ONE single Trump supporter I know will even get it. I overheard my own sister say last week that she's not getting a vaccine because it will have a chip in it. She is a Trump supporter. My parents feel the same way. So many of my relatives who support Trump post things on FB about not getting the vaccine because Bill Gates is the anti Christ and the vaccine will have the "mark of the beast." So I really don't get why Trump thinks that having a vaccine before the election will help him win.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 8, 2020 23:45:13 GMT
What I find so "interesting" about Trump doing his best to get a vaccine out before the election is that not ONE single Trump supporter I know will even get it. I overheard my own sister say last week that she's not getting a vaccine because it will have a chip in it. She is a Trump supporter. My parents feel the same way. So many of my relatives who support Trump post things on FB about not getting the vaccine because Bill Gates is the anti Christ and the vaccine will have the "mark of the beast." So I really don't get why Trump thinks that having a vaccine before the election will help him win. All the years of CCD with the fire & brimstone teachings of Father Ordern, Some how I thought the ‘Antichrist’ would be a bit more..... impressive?
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Post by peasapie on Sept 8, 2020 23:53:04 GMT
Just remember...average joe will not be first to get it. First responders/front line workers will be along with the elderly. I will not get it until my niece says it's safe. She a pharmaceutical scientist at UNC Chapel Hill working on her PhD...studying Pharmacoengineering and Molecular Pharmaceutics I agree with you 100%. I’m waiting til my medical friends feel the data supports its safety.
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 9, 2020 0:10:37 GMT
I would not rush to get it. Dh could be mandated to get it as a health care worker
I dont trust a vaccine that is made this quickly
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 9, 2020 0:24:42 GMT
Even if the vaccine is ready by Nov 3rd and people are willing to get it, how do we really know if it is the vaccine, or just saline he wants us to be injected with just to say see the vaccine is ready, I did it! And if it is saline it will be safe for him too! Even if it is rel he could get something different to get a shot and we would get the vaccine.
Think about it, there will be no results and even for sure proven immunity before the end of the year. What is the purpose of the shot in October or November? What happens if people start to drop dead the first of December? He will be comfortable in the WH while people die from a possible dangerous vaccine! Do you trust him?
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Post by Just T on Sept 9, 2020 0:57:13 GMT
All the years of CCD with the fire & brimstone teachings of Father Ordern, Some how I thought the ‘Antichrist’ would be a bit more..... impressive? Yep. Me too! LOL I always thought the anti Christ was going to be someone charming and handsome and charismatic who would fool everyone.
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