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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 24, 2020 3:32:47 GMT
How did Trump encourage violence? Specifics I think there are some others that aren't included in this article (even before the date of the article, but definitely since). There are also examples of other GOP candidates or members of governments that have implied violence towards Democrats such as the Qanon supporter who had an ad with her and her gun in front of a pic of the squad as well as the example of the Kelly Loefler's ad that was posted the other day, where she said she is farther right than Atila the Hun and to "kill the liberal scribes." I am sure others will come up with more examples. |
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Post by cindyupnorth on Sept 24, 2020 3:46:11 GMT
Thank you Kristen for answering the question. The more I learn the more I can give examples to others. I honestly do not have the time to sit and watch the news all day or read up on everything.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 24, 2020 3:54:12 GMT
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Post by pixiechick on Sept 24, 2020 18:03:09 GMT
Who says these people are liberals? The only elected leaders (or candidates) that I see encouraging violence are republicans. That is likely to get a response from their base as well as those who are opposed to it. Yes, can someone address this for me? or show any statistics? I of course live in the underbelly of MN republican land, and there are a lot of people posting on fb about how they are voting for the person who doesn't allow burning and violence..I'm like??? blink? so it's all the democrats doing that? Riots in all these cities, all Democratic mayors. Atlanta Baltimore under Stephanie Rawlings-Blake (she was the first to let it happen and actually stated at the time that they were going to give those that wish to destroy, the space to do so) Boston Chicago Dallas Denver Detroit Houston Los Angeles Minneapolis New York City Pheonix Portland Richmond Seattle St. Louis DC |
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Post by pixiechick on Sept 24, 2020 18:06:44 GMT
Recognizing how it could come to be doesn't mean I'm okay with it. And yes the violence going on for months DOES have everything to do Democratic leaders not putting a stop to it. When you have politicians on the left and news media encouraging it, it's on them. Who says these people are liberals? The only elected leaders (or candidates) that I see encouraging violence are republicans. That is likely to get a response from their base as well as those who are opposed to it. Someone needs to show that dumbass Cuomo from CNN in the constitution where it says PEACEFUL protest. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 24, 2020 18:26:10 GMT
Yes, can someone address this for me? or show any statistics? I of course live in the underbelly of MN republican land, and there are a lot of people posting on fb about how they are voting for the person who doesn't allow burning and violence..I'm like??? blink? so it's all the democrats doing that? Riots in all these cities, all Democratic mayors. Atlanta Baltimore under Stephanie Rawlings-Blake (she was the first to let it happen and actually stated at the time that they were going to give those that wish to destroy, the space to do so) Boston Chicago Dallas Denver Detroit Houston Los Angeles Minneapolis New York City Pheonix Portland Richmond Seattle St. Louis DC So what? It’s not like they are sending out sign up sheets for protesting time slots. They are also NOT encouraging violence. At least the Democratic leadership is honoring the constitution and every Americans right to protest. The US is under republican leadership right now and it’s a fucking dumpster fire. We are much worse off now that we were 4+ years ago. trump is ordering military/federal LEO to attack its own people. Black people are being killed by cops and there is no accountability. |
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Post by Merge on Sept 24, 2020 18:52:47 GMT
Yes, can someone address this for me? or show any statistics? I of course live in the underbelly of MN republican land, and there are a lot of people posting on fb about how they are voting for the person who doesn't allow burning and violence..I'm like??? blink? so it's all the democrats doing that? Riots in all these cities, all Democratic mayors. Atlanta Baltimore under Stephanie Rawlings-Blake (she was the first to let it happen and actually stated at the time that they were going to give those that wish to destroy, the space to do so) Boston Chicago Dallas Denver Detroit Houston Los Angeles Minneapolis New York City Pheonix Portland Richmond Seattle St. Louis DC There were no riots in Houston. You might want to check your sources. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 24, 2020 18:55:24 GMT
Who says these people are liberals? The only elected leaders (or candidates) that I see encouraging violence are republicans. That is likely to get a response from their base as well as those who are opposed to it. Someone needs to show that dumbass Cuomo from CNN in the constitution where it says PEACEFUL protest. This is a pretty lame attempt to show democrats inciting violence. As for the earlier post—did you miss trump’s comments about Biden not giving a nationwide mask mandate even though he said he would? You didn’t address that question. Seems that he wants people to forget that he is actually president right now and he isn’t the challenger. What is going on is happening on his watch and In many cases because of him. I think he forgets that he is president as well at times. All he cares about is his re-election and not looking bad by being a one term president. |
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Post by scorpeao on Sept 24, 2020 19:01:04 GMT
I don't think we are a country that allows this. But I'm not surprised that this is the result when democratic leaders won't do their job and protect their citizens. We are absolutely a country that allows it. How about the white armed men who stormed courthouses on more than one occasion recently. Nobody did a fucking thing about it. Now replace white men with black men, and you'd be outraged. Instead, you sit there and blame democrats. No, democrats are keeping your ass safe...unfortunately, you're too obtuse to realize it until it's too late. |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 24, 2020 19:03:21 GMT
Someone needs to show that dumbass Cuomo from CNN in the constitution where it says PEACEFUL protest. This is a pretty lame attempt to show democrats inciting violence. As for the earlier post—did you miss trump’s comments about Biden not giving a nationwide mask mandate even though he said he would? You didn’t address that question. Seems that he wants people to forget that he is actually president right now and he isn’t the challenger. What is going on is happening on his watch and In many cases because of him. I think he forgets that he is president as well at times. All he cares about is his re-election and not looking bad by being a one term president. Yes, THIS! All of this has happened WHILE HE HAS BEEN PRESIDENT and he has done nothing at all to try to heal the wounds and bring the American people back together. The question we should all really be asking is WHY? |
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Post by scorpeao on Sept 24, 2020 19:03:34 GMT
Yes, can someone address this for me? or show any statistics? I of course live in the underbelly of MN republican land, and there are a lot of people posting on fb about how they are voting for the person who doesn't allow burning and violence..I'm like??? blink? so it's all the democrats doing that? Riots in all these cities, all Democratic mayors. Atlanta Baltimore under Stephanie Rawlings-Blake (she was the first to let it happen and actually stated at the time that they were going to give those that wish to destroy, the space to do so) Boston Chicago Dallas Denver Detroit Houston Los Angeles Minneapolis New York City Pheonix Portland Richmond Seattle St. Louis DC You realize that's because that's where people of color live? There's typically not a huge presence of the KKK, you know the hate group the President won't disavow because it's a large part of his base, in Democratic cites. |
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Sept 24, 2020 19:11:28 GMT
All these large Republican-led cities have had riots in the past months: San Diego Jacksonville FL Fort Worth Omaha Tulsa Oklahoma City Atlanta Virginia Beach VA Long Beach CA El Paso Raleigh NC Colorado Springs Arlington TX I'm sure there have been more. That was just from a quick Google search.
ETA I also know there have been riots in Republican-led cities in Ohio, because I live in one and there have been several riots in our very, very Republican area. None of the cities qualify as large or even medium, though they are definitely Republican-led.
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Post by pixiechick on Sept 24, 2020 20:42:09 GMT
All these large Republican-led cities have had riots in the past months: San Diego Jacksonville FL Fort Worth Omaha Tulsa Oklahoma City Atlanta Virginia Beach VA Long Beach CA El Paso Raleigh NC Colorado Springs Arlington TX I'm sure there have been more. That was just from a quick Google search.
ETA I also know there have been riots in Republican-led cities in Ohio, because I live in one and there have been several riots in our very, very Republican area. None of the cities qualify as large or even medium, though they are definitely Republican-led.
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Post by maryannscraps on Sept 24, 2020 21:13:00 GMT
We had one or two nights of rioting and looting in Boston, led mainly by shithead white teens from the suburbs. That’s directly from the chief of police William Gross. It has been strictly peaceful protests other than that. It certainly did not go on and on.
Get your facts straight.
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Post by tara on Sept 24, 2020 21:25:14 GMT
Who says these people are liberals? The only elected leaders (or candidates) that I see encouraging violence are republicans. That is likely to get a response from their base as well as those who are opposed to it. Someone needs to show that dumbass Cuomo from CNN in the constitution where it says PEACEFUL protest. They did peacefully protest by sitting during the national anthem. Your dear leader called them an assholes. People came out of the woodwork saying they’re boycotting Nike. Their boycotting football. Well those people now have blood on their hands. Trump and his kind, that includes you, want people to sit down and shut up. Well people aren’t. We’ve had enough and now people are getting killed. And yeah I want to punch trump in the face. I want to punch any trump supporters in the face. Notice I didn’t say conservatives. I’m not a democrat but In my eyes any trump supporter is a racist shit stain. I have kids of color and I’m a mama bear and I will not apologize for it. |
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Post by femalebusiness on Sept 24, 2020 21:30:48 GMT
Where are the Black Panthers when we need them? We need a little balance here. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 24, 2020 21:43:49 GMT
I think it is important to acknowledge that there are a variety of people doing the rioting. Sometimes they are involved with the protests, and other times they are not. They could be extremist groups that are there to cause problems just because they can. And they could also be there because they WANT the protestors to be blamed for the rioting, since people can't seem to discern between them and the rioters. Trump is also capitalizing on this and I think encouraging it, if for nothing else, for his campaign. I was in the twin cities over the weekend and saw numerous billboards claiming that Trump is the "Law and Order President" and there are TV ads claiming that "we won't be safe in Biden's America." Clearly his supporters forget that this is TRUMP'S America currently. And what is he doing to stop the violence? They are falling for his rhetoric once again--hook, line and sinker.
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Post by tara on Sept 24, 2020 21:47:49 GMT
Yes, can someone address this for me? or show any statistics? I of course live in the underbelly of MN republican land, and there are a lot of people posting on fb about how they are voting for the person who doesn't allow burning and violence..I'm like??? blink? so it's all the democrats doing that? Riots in all these cities, all Democratic mayors. Atlanta Baltimore under Stephanie Rawlings-Blake (she was the first to let it happen and actually stated at the time that they were going to give those that wish to destroy, the space to do so) Boston Chicago Dallas Denver Detroit Houston Los Angeles Minneapolis New York City Pheonix Portland Richmond Seattle St. Louis DC Trump is president. No matter how hard you try to spin it, the buck stops with trump! |
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Post by pyccku on Sept 24, 2020 22:27:52 GMT
Oddly enough, the riot in "Pheonix" actually took place in Scottsdale, a city with a Republican mayor.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Sept 24, 2020 22:52:29 GMT
You realize that's because that's where people of color live? There's typically not a huge presence of the KKK, you know the hate group the President won't disavow because it's a large part of his base, in Democratic cites. ?? arn't people of color everywhere? what does that even mean? I would not count Mpls as having a large%. Trump blames the Mayors of the cities for the Riots and protests getting out of control. I acutally do believe that one. We want less federal govt control. The Mayors should have handled it better. |
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Post by inkedup on Sept 24, 2020 23:04:10 GMT
Yes, can someone address this for me? or show any statistics? I of course live in the underbelly of MN republican land, and there are a lot of people posting on fb about how they are voting for the person who doesn't allow burning and violence..I'm like??? blink? so it's all the democrats doing that? Riots in all these cities, all Democratic mayors. Atlanta Baltimore under Stephanie Rawlings-Blake (she was the first to let it happen and actually stated at the time that they were going to give those that wish to destroy, the space to do so) Boston Chicago Dallas Denver Detroit Houston Los Angeles Minneapolis New York City Pheonix Portland Richmond Seattle St. Louis DC Your list contains errors. You jokers absolve Donald Trump of responsibility for anything while simultaneously lambasting governors for everything that goes wrong in their cities. You look so foolish defending a man who is destroying your way of life. I hope you live long enough for history to prove how stupid and short-sighted your world view is. I'd say don't drink the Brawndo, but it's obviously too late for you. |
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Post by pixiechick on Sept 25, 2020 3:52:23 GMT
I just want to say how horrible it is that Breonna Taylor was shot and killed. Completely awful to have her life cut short in that way. I am devastated for her family and friends.
The only point I was making and maybe didn't do it very well by trying to make posts quickly and on the go was this...
Not all riots are happening in only democratic led cities. It wasn't my intention to put that idea across.
But the riots and violence that have been ongoing and allowed to continue are happening in cities with democratic leaders.
When they allow it to continue and refuse to stop it, that's on them. Not trump.
When Trump offers to help and they refuse, that's on the them, not Trump.
When Democrat leaders won't stop the destruction and violence in their own cities and refuse help to do so, it's ridiculous to blame Trump for it.
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Post by LiLi on Sept 25, 2020 4:52:33 GMT
But the riots and violence that have been ongoing and allowed to continue are happening in cities with democratic leaders. Nope, not true. I can tell you first hand. At first it was a bit out of hand. Currently, and for the past couple months, the protests have been largely peaceful in and around LA, No one has "allowed it to continue." |
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Post by pixiechick on Sept 25, 2020 5:26:37 GMT
But the riots and violence that have been ongoing and allowed to continue are happening in cities with democratic leaders. Nope, not true. I can tell you first hand. At first it was a bit out of hand. Currently, and for the past couple months, the protests have been largely peaceful in and around LA, No one has "allowed it to continue." I underlined the important point in that sentence. |
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Post by LiLi on Sept 25, 2020 5:46:16 GMT
Nope, not true. I can tell you first hand. At first it was a bit out of hand. Currently, and for the past couple months, the protests have been largely peaceful in and around LA, No one has "allowed it to continue." I underlined the important point in that sentence. Okay, but the next word is "ongoing". You had LA on your list. So adding that word changed that meaning you are trying to imply by only underlying the words in front of it. Words mean things. |
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Post by pixiechick on Sept 25, 2020 6:34:33 GMT
I underlined the important point in that sentence. Okay, but the next word is "ongoing". You had LA on your list. So adding that word changed that meaning you are trying to imply by only underlying the words in front of it. Words mean things. I shouldn't have included the list. Disregard the list. That's why I clarified it in that sentence. But I will further clarify it. But the riots and violence ones that HAVE BEEN ongoing and allowed to continue are happening in cities with democratic leaders. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 25, 2020 6:42:20 GMT
I just want to say how horrible it is that Breonna Taylor was shot and killed. Completely awful to have her life cut short in that way. I am devastated for her family and friends. The only point I was making and maybe didn't do it very well by trying to make posts quickly and on the go was this... Not all riots are happening in only democratic led cities. It wasn't my intention to put that idea across. But the riots and violence that have been ongoing and allowed to continue are happening in cities with democratic leaders. When they allow it to continue and refuse to stop it, that's on them. Not trump. When Trump offers to help and they refuse, that's on the them, not Trump. When Democrat leaders won't stop the destruction and violence in their own cities and refuse help to do so, it's ridiculous to blame Trump for it. Nope. When you have trump talking out both sides of his mouth—it’s on him. Again you prove the point made by several less...IOKIYR. |
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Post by maryannscraps on Sept 25, 2020 11:40:21 GMT
Okay, but the next word is "ongoing". You had LA on your list. So adding that word changed that meaning you are trying to imply by only underlying the words in front of it. Words mean things. I shouldn't have included the list. Disregard the list. That's why I clarified it in that sentence. But I will further clarify it. But the riots and violence ones that HAVE BEEN ongoing and allowed to continue are happening in cities with democratic leaders. But we've all pointed out multiple cities on your list with Democratic mayors that have ongoing peaceful protests and no violence. The right to protest is constitutionally protected. Do you want those mayors to not allow protests to continue? |
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Post by scorpeao on Sept 25, 2020 14:40:48 GMT
You realize that's because that's where people of color live? There's typically not a huge presence of the KKK, you know the hate group the President won't disavow because it's a large part of his base, in Democratic cites. ?? arn't people of color everywhere? what does that even mean? I would not count Mpls as having a large%. Trump blames the Mayors of the cities for the Riots and protests getting out of control. I acutally do believe that one. We want less federal govt control. The Mayors should have handled it better. Yes, they are everywhere, but democratic cities tend to have more, and you know that. A quick google search showed that Minneapolis is 18.6% black. The next largest Minnesota city, St. Paul, is 13.5% black, and the third largest, Rochester, is 7.8% black. Now, compared to the United States, which is 13.4% black, that is a large percentage of the population. Instead of Trump placing blame how about he address the issue and be a little less divisive? |
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