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Post by jeremysgirl on Sept 25, 2020 14:49:02 GMT
I'm in Michigan. I guess I'm missing all these Detroit riots too. Must be I'm too insulated to hear about them...I point you to the first link. And then rioters arrested after weeks of calm. So I guess the police are doing their job. I point you to the second link. Detroit News
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Post by inkedup on Sept 25, 2020 14:51:38 GMT
All these large Republican-led cities have had riots in the past months: San Diego Jacksonville FL Fort Worth Omaha Tulsa Oklahoma City Atlanta Virginia Beach VA Long Beach CA El Paso Raleigh NC Colorado Springs Arlington TX I'm sure there have been more. That was just from a quick Google search.
ETA I also know there have been riots in Republican-led cities in Ohio, because I live in one and there have been several riots in our very, very Republican area. None of the cities qualify as large or even medium, though they are definitely Republican-led.
How long were they allowed to go on in those cities vs. Democrat led cities? Right wing trolls claim that the entire right should not be judged by the actual Nazis and white supremacists that have aligned themselves with their movement. Trump isn't believed to be responsible, or expected to answer for, a fucking thing that has happened under his watch. These same people expect Democrats (civilian and politicians alike) to answer for every fucking thing that goes wrong in or near anything they touch. Proud Boys and Trump aligned Nazis show up to a peaceful protest and cause damage? Let's blame BLM, the Dems and ANTIFA! |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 25, 2020 15:22:46 GMT
How long were they allowed to go on in those cities vs. Democrat led cities? Right wing trolls claim that the entire right should not be judged by the actual Nazis and white supremacists that have aligned themselves with their movement. Trump isn't believed to be responsible, or expected to answer for, a fucking thing that has happened under his watch. These same people expect Democrats (civilian and politicians alike) to answer for every fucking thing that goes wrong in or near anything they touch. Proud Boys and Trump aligned Nazis show up to a peaceful protest and cause damage? Let's blame BLM, the Dems and ANTIFA! And to which the FBI came out and clearly stated that it wasn’t BLM/antifa who were responsible single for some of the violence that ensued, yet republicans still repeat that our day after day after day—including trump, barr, Gaetz, Jordan, and a few other trump cultist leaders. There is most definitely a LOT of republicans starting with trump who—WITHOUT FACTS—keep on lying and blaming democrats. THEY are the ones who inflame the media, and whip trumpateers into a frothy frenzy. |
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Post by pixiechick on Sept 25, 2020 19:20:11 GMT
I shouldn't have included the list. Disregard the list. That's why I clarified it in that sentence. But I will further clarify it. But the riots and violence ones that HAVE BEEN ongoing and allowed to continue are happening in cities with democratic leaders. But we've all pointed out multiple cities on your list with Democratic mayors that have ongoing peaceful protests and no violence. The right to protest is constitutionally protected. Do you want those mayors to not allow protests to continue? Of course peaceful protests should be allowed. It's when the democratic leaders let city blocks be taken over and downplay it, when the riots arrive at their residence they choose to move instead of putting a stop to it, basically saying to hell with the citizens in those areas, others who don't put a stop to it in areas that don't affect them, but when it arrives at their doorstep, THEN they put a stop to it, when businesses are burned and anyone trying to stop it is attacked with deadly force by the crowd, when citizens are barricaded in their apartment building and the building set on fire, same thing with police buildings, when someone trying to stop a physical attack on a transgender person and the antifa crowd proceeds to beat him unconscious, when Trump supporters are hunted down and shot in the street, when leaders tell their police force to stand down in riots, when leaders outright tell the public they are giving those that wish to destroy, the space to do that. Those are democrats that are letting it go on and on. This is a police force that has been empowered to uphold the law and protect it's citizens from rioters and anarchists. |
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Post by maryannscraps on Sept 26, 2020 2:29:06 GMT
But we've all pointed out multiple cities on your list with Democratic mayors that have ongoing peaceful protests and no violence. The right to protest is constitutionally protected. Do you want those mayors to not allow protests to continue? Of course peaceful protests should be allowed. It's when the democratic leaders let city blocks be taken over and downplay it, when the riots arrive at their residence they choose to move instead of putting a stop to it, basically saying to hell with the citizens in those areas, others who don't put a stop to it in areas that don't affect them, but when it arrives at their doorstep, THEN they put a stop to it, when businesses are burned and anyone trying to stop it is attacked with deadly force by the crowd, when citizens are barricaded in their apartment building and the building set on fire, same thing with police buildings, when someone trying to stop a physical attack on a transgender person and the antifa crowd proceeds to beat him unconscious, when Trump supporters are hunted down and shot in the street, when leaders tell their police force to stand down in riots, when leaders outright tell the public they are giving those that wish to destroy, the space to do that. Those are democrats that are letting it go on and on. This is a police force that has been empowered to uphold the law and protect it's citizens from rioters and anarchists. Please provide evidence for exactly where that happened. You haven’t shown that at all. Not in Boston or most of the other cities you listed. Evidence please. You are making up a story that did not happen. I’m good friends with one of the three police deputy superintendents in Boston. Your story is a lie. I have it straight from the police top brass that what you are saying is NOT TRUE here. Again, I say you are making shit up. |
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Post by annie on Sept 26, 2020 4:12:54 GMT
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Post by pixiechick on Sept 26, 2020 4:37:37 GMT
Of course peaceful protests should be allowed. It's when the democratic leaders let city blocks be taken over and downplay it, when the riots arrive at their residence they choose to move instead of putting a stop to it, basically saying to hell with the citizens in those areas, others who don't put a stop to it in areas that don't affect them, but when it arrives at their doorstep, THEN they put a stop to it, when businesses are burned and anyone trying to stop it is attacked with deadly force by the crowd, when citizens are barricaded in their apartment building and the building set on fire, same thing with police buildings, when someone trying to stop a physical attack on a transgender person and the antifa crowd proceeds to beat him unconscious, when Trump supporters are hunted down and shot in the street, when leaders tell their police force to stand down in riots, when leaders outright tell the public they are giving those that wish to destroy, the space to do that. Those are democrats that are letting it go on and on. This is a police force that has been empowered to uphold the law and protect it's citizens from rioters and anarchists. Please provide evidence for exactly where that happened. You haven’t shown that at all. Not in Boston or most of the other cities you listed. Evidence please. You are making up a story that did not happen. I’m good friends with one of the three police deputy superintendents in Boston. Your story is a lie. I have it straight from the police top brass that what you are saying is NOT TRUE here. Again, I say you are making shit up. I'm not making anything up, I wish I was. Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler moves to escape protester violence — but businesses can’t
Mayor Lori Lightfoot defends ban on protesters on her block: ‘I have a right to make sure that my home is secure’ Rioters set fire to Hall of Justice in Louisville, attack officers who are trying to put out flamesChief Smith says last night protesters set fire to a few buildings, including a multi-family residence that was occupied by a child. As fire crews were arriving, Smith says protesters blocked the engine from reaching the fire.
Portland protesters barricade courthouse with federal officers inside, then try to set it on firePortland man beaten unconscious by BLM mob tried to stop mugging, witness claimsthe transgender woman “Hey! Hey, we got one right here! We got a Trumper right here!” Followed by: “Right here?” And then, two fatal rounds are fired at Danielson.In searching for this one on the mayor of Baltimore, I read other articles where she later explained that she didn't mean what she said, and listening to what she said before the statement, it seems plausible. But that's the first time I've heard that explanation. The riots went on for more than 2 weeks. |
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Post by peasapie on Sept 26, 2020 4:55:54 GMT
I don't think we are a country that allows this. But I'm not surprised that this is the result when democratic leaders won't do their job and protect their citizens. Typical right-wing propaganda. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 26, 2020 10:53:18 GMT
I don't think we are a country that allows this. But I'm not surprised that this is the result when democratic leaders won't do their job and protect their citizens. Typical right-wing propaganda. It’s Gia/mytnice. And that’s what she’s always done. |
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Post by maryannscraps on Sept 26, 2020 10:59:05 GMT
Your story is still bullshit. Again, protest is legal and protected. There are a very few people who are protesting who have caused problems, and they are being arrested. A very few. Out of tens of millions of protestors. Cities are not burning down, they have not turned into a reign of anarchy. Your story is that cities run by Democratic mayors are in chaos. They are not. The few incidences of violence have been calmed down. And frankly, what's been found is that those have been perpetrated as much by white supremacist and radical militia members as by BLM protestors.
PS When you link stories, would you mind showing the website name in the link? I found your sites, but had to do it through searches.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 26, 2020 11:04:47 GMT
Your story is still bullshit. Again, protest is legal and protected. There are a very few people who are protesting who have caused problems, and they are being arrested. A very few. Out of tens of millions of protestors. Cities are not burning down, they have not turned into a reign of anarchy. Your story is that cities run by Democratic mayors are in chaos. They are not. The few incidences of violence have been calmed down. And frankly, what's been found is that those have been perpetrated as much by white supremacist and radical militia members as by BLM protestors. PS When you link stories, would you mind showing the website name in the link? I found your sites, but had to do it through searches. It’s fruitless to ask—Gia/mytnice/now pixchix always did exactly what she’s doing now—-the wordplay, semantics, circular speak, gaslighting. Pretty much everything she ousts is gaslighting bullshit. |
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Post by maryannscraps on Sept 26, 2020 12:42:58 GMT
Your story is still bullshit. Again, protest is legal and protected. There are a very few people who are protesting who have caused problems, and they are being arrested. A very few. Out of tens of millions of protestors. Cities are not burning down, they have not turned into a reign of anarchy. Your story is that cities run by Democratic mayors are in chaos. They are not. The few incidences of violence have been calmed down. And frankly, what's been found is that those have been perpetrated as much by white supremacist and radical militia members as by BLM protestors. PS When you link stories, would you mind showing the website name in the link? I found your sites, but had to do it through searches. It’s fruitless to ask—Gia/mytnice/now pixchix always did exactly what she’s doing now—-the wordplay, semantics, circular speak, gaslighting. Pretty much everything she ousts is gaslighting bullshit. That's okay. I'm just in the mood to call out bullshit. I'll let it go at some point, but it's a dreary morning and I'm enjoying my coffee with a side of badass. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 26, 2020 12:55:05 GMT
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 26, 2020 13:55:54 GMT
It’s fruitless to ask—Gia/mytnice/now pixchix always did exactly what she’s doing now—-the wordplay, semantics, circular speak, gaslighting. Pretty much everything she ousts is gaslighting bullshit. That's okay. I'm just in the mood to call out bullshit. I'll let it go at some point, but it's a dreary morning and I'm enjoying my coffee with a side of badass. I love you! 🥰🥰🥰🥰 |
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Post by peasapie on Sept 26, 2020 16:42:17 GMT
Typical right-wing propaganda. It’s Gia/mytnice. And that’s what she’s always done. yup. Many names and faces. |
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Post by femalebusiness on Sept 26, 2020 17:07:29 GMT
The farther behind that loser gets in the polls the more dixiechick/gia ramps up. I can just see the spittle flying from her mouth. It is so predictable she ramps up her posts in relationship to how far down in the polls her hero is or how much he fucks up. Get used to seeing her nonsense as it looks like that psycho is finally going down.
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Post by pixiechick on Sept 26, 2020 21:02:01 GMT
Your story is still bullshit. Nothing I posted is bullshit. Not one thing. Again, protest is legal and protected. I agree it is and never said any differently. There are a very few people who are protesting who have caused problems, and they are being arrested. The rioting mob has control of these streets and Democratic leaders allow it in the name of supporting protests. In one city they have done away with bail, so they can get right back out and keep destroying. In cities that they haven't done that, we have the Democratic VP candidate urging everyone to donate in order to bail these criminals out of jail. So that isn't really working to stop this. Arresting people (the ones that they can get through the rioting mob protecting them -to get) is doing nothing. The orders to stand down and take it and running people through the jail, is not putting a stop to this. Cities are not burning down, they have not turned into a reign of anarchy. From CBS News: "Damage from looting and arson amid mostly peaceful protests over the police killing of George Floyd will cost $1-2 billion in claims, according to the Insurance Information Institute." Business owners lost their business and livelihoods, all the people killed, all the cities that have lost police and police officials (the good ones) for not being allowed to do their job to keep the community safe, people that were physically attacked, had their lives threatened and lost the feeling of safety in their town, having their cars surrounded and some bashed in while they're in them, threatening physical harm and even death, being threatened with rape and death and then calling people criminals when they defend their life in their own home, all the towns that will suffer because businesses won't reopen and they won't have enough police protection, all of the people leaving the cities (like NYC) in droves, all of the ongoing and long lasting effects from the rioting, say otherwise. And frankly, what's been found is that those have been perpetrated as much by white supremacist and radical militia members as by BLM protestors. I don't think it matters to those people mentioned above WHO did it. What matters to them is that it wasn't stopped. It was allowed to go on for months in places. We've seen some places where they unequivocally stated it won't be tolerated and the difference between cities/towns in how they say it and policies that back it up is night and day. PS When you link stories, would you mind showing the website name in the link? I found your sites, but had to do it through searches. If you wanted to find my sites all you had to do was click on the links. You didn't have to search for my sites to get to them. |
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 27, 2020 1:04:12 GMT
I only clicked on a few of your links, 3 were from NY Post, a conservative tabloid with ties to Trump. Not surprising they’re pointing fingers at mayors. Another source? Law Enforcement Today? Never heard of them but not surprising what side they’re on. I stopped looking after that. If you post something from a reputable news source, we might take you more seriously.
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Post by pixiechick on Sept 27, 2020 4:13:36 GMT
I only clicked on a few of your links, 3 were from NY Post, a conservative tabloid with ties to Trump. Not surprising they’re pointing fingers at mayors. Another source? Law Enforcement Today? Never heard of them but not surprising what side they’re on. I stopped looking after that. If you post something from a reputable news source, we might take you more seriously. Not a single headline is untrue so it wouldn't really matter what the source was, you've more than adequately shown you'd simply find a different reason to dismiss verifiable facts. Find your own approved source to see for yourself and show me what I actually got wrong vs. just another vague dismissal. I'm open to being corrected with actual facts, not your vague accusations and dismissals that are easily verified and debunked with truth. |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 27, 2020 4:35:40 GMT
I don't think it matters to those people mentioned above WHO did it. What matters to them is that it wasn't stopped. It was allowed to go on for months in places. We've seen some places where they unequivocally stated it won't be tolerated and the difference between cities/towns in how they say it and policies that back it up is night and day. Yes it *does* matter who did it, especially when the POTUS himself continues to repeatedly lie about which groups were behind the violence, rioting and looting to shift blame away from those who actually did it. |
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Post by pixiechick on Sept 27, 2020 6:13:49 GMT
I don't think it matters to those people mentioned above WHO did it. What matters to them is that it wasn't stopped. It was allowed to go on for months in places. We've seen some places where they unequivocally stated it won't be tolerated and the difference between cities/towns in how they say it and policies that back it up is night and day. Yes it *does* matter who did it, especially when the POTUS himself continues to repeatedly lie about which groups were behind the violence, rioting and looting to shift blame away from those who actually did it. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 9:45:57 GMT
It’s fruitless to ask—Gia/mytnice/now pixchix always did exactly what she’s doing now—-the wordplay, semantics, circular speak, gaslighting. Pretty much everything she ousts is gaslighting bullshit. That's okay. I'm just in the mood to call out bullshit. I'll let it go at some point, but it's a dreary morning and I'm enjoying my coffee with a side of badass. ***mic drop! **** |
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 27, 2020 12:20:17 GMT
I only clicked on a few of your links, 3 were from NY Post, a conservative tabloid with ties to Trump. Not surprising they’re pointing fingers at mayors. Another source? Law Enforcement Today? Never heard of them but not surprising what side they’re on. I stopped looking after that. If you post something from a reputable news source, we might take you more seriously. Not a single headline is untrue so it wouldn't really matter what the source was, you've more than adequately shown you'd simply find a different reason to dismiss verifiable facts. Find your own approved source to see for yourself and show me what I actually got wrong vs. just another vague dismissal. I'm open to being corrected with actual facts, not your vague accusations and dismissals that are easily verified and debunked with truth. Yes, it does matter where the source is from. Headlines from a law enforcement website and NY Post, with a right wing bias and links to the president do not prove that something is true. As Trump likes to say, Fake News! I’m not searching for links to prove your point. Again, if you post links from reputable sources we might take you more seriously. eta - Here are some examples of how the right wing media misrepresented protests. Fox News actually digitally altered images www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/fox-news-runs-digitally-altered-images-in-coverage-of-seattles-protests-capitol-hill-autonomous-zone/www.oregonlive.com/portland/2020/07/feds-right-wing-media-paint-portland-as-city-under-siege-a-tour-of-town-shows-otherwise.htmlwww.technologyreview.com/2020/09/03/1007931/riot-porn-right-wing-vigilante-propaganda-social-media/“ The real difficulty is that competing accounts circulate in parallel universes that are not even close to balanced in their reach. Kevin Roose of the New York Times pointed out that the majority of people on Facebook are witnessing a radically different narrative from the one presented to consumers of mainstream media. In August, he tweeted, CNN saw 21 million Facebook interactions; the right-wing commentator Ben Shapiro gathered 55 million. This doesn’t mean there’s a silent majority of right-wing media consumers—in fact, it means that the right-wing media ecosystem continues to be dense and insular, which makes the propaganda feedback loop much more effective at shaping audience perceptions and world views. “
“By using riot porn to incite fear in white people, the right-wing media ecosystem converts the real pain experienced by Black Americans into fodder for deranged, paranoid fantasies that white vigilantes must take up the functions of the police.”
Trump further incites violence by praising Kyle Rittenhouse, justifying the actions of the Trump caravan in Portland. www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2020/06/02/riots-white-supremacy-and-accelerationism/ |
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Post by Skellinton on Sept 27, 2020 14:01:15 GMT
Not a single headline is untrue so it wouldn't really matter what the source was, you've more than adequately shown you'd simply find a different reason to dismiss verifiable facts. Find your own approved source to see for yourself and show me what I actually got wrong vs. just another vague dismissal. I'm open to being corrected with actual facts, not your vague accusations and dismissals that are easily verified and debunked with truth. Yes, it does matter where the source is from. Headlines from a law enforcement website and NY Post, with a right wing bias and links to the president do not prove that something is true. As Trump likes to say, Fake News! I’m not searching for links to prove your point. Again, if you post links from reputable sources we might take you more seriously. eta - Here are some examples of how the right wing media misrepresented protests. Fox News actually digitally altered images www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/fox-news-runs-digitally-altered-images-in-coverage-of-seattles-protests-capitol-hill-autonomous-zone/www.oregonlive.com/portland/2020/07/feds-right-wing-media-paint-portland-as-city-under-siege-a-tour-of-town-shows-otherwise.htmlwww.technologyreview.com/2020/09/03/1007931/riot-porn-right-wing-vigilante-propaganda-social-media/“ The real difficulty is that competing accounts circulate in parallel universes that are not even close to balanced in their reach. Kevin Roose of the New York Times pointed out that the majority of people on Facebook are witnessing a radically different narrative from the one presented to consumers of mainstream media. In August, he tweeted, CNN saw 21 million Facebook interactions; the right-wing commentator Ben Shapiro gathered 55 million. This doesn’t mean there’s a silent majority of right-wing media consumers—in fact, it means that the right-wing media ecosystem continues to be dense and insular, which makes the propaganda feedback loop much more effective at shaping audience perceptions and world views. “
“By using riot porn to incite fear in white people, the right-wing media ecosystem converts the real pain experienced by Black Americans into fodder for deranged, paranoid fantasies that white vigilantes must take up the functions of the police.”
Trump further incites violence by praising Kyle Rittenhouse, justifying the actions of the Trump caravan in Portland. I only clicked on two of her links and one was an editorial, and absolutely not fact based. It was one of the Portland ones and being local to PDX and having been downtown for appointments the past few weeks I can assure you the “facts” in the editorial were wrong. One of the things they were talking about was all the buildings boarded up due to protests, most of the buildings were boarded up well before June when the protesting started. They were boarded up in March when they were forced to close. The other “facts” were also overly exaggerated right wing propaganda. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 27, 2020 14:13:38 GMT
Yes, it does matter where the source is from. Headlines from a law enforcement website and NY Post, with a right wing bias and links to the president do not prove that something is true. As Trump likes to say, Fake News! I’m not searching for links to prove your point. Again, if you post links from reputable sources we might take you more seriously. eta - Here are some examples of how the right wing media misrepresented protests. Fox News actually digitally altered images www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/fox-news-runs-digitally-altered-images-in-coverage-of-seattles-protests-capitol-hill-autonomous-zone/www.oregonlive.com/portland/2020/07/feds-right-wing-media-paint-portland-as-city-under-siege-a-tour-of-town-shows-otherwise.htmlwww.technologyreview.com/2020/09/03/1007931/riot-porn-right-wing-vigilante-propaganda-social-media/“ The real difficulty is that competing accounts circulate in parallel universes that are not even close to balanced in their reach. Kevin Roose of the New York Times pointed out that the majority of people on Facebook are witnessing a radically different narrative from the one presented to consumers of mainstream media. In August, he tweeted, CNN saw 21 million Facebook interactions; the right-wing commentator Ben Shapiro gathered 55 million. This doesn’t mean there’s a silent majority of right-wing media consumers—in fact, it means that the right-wing media ecosystem continues to be dense and insular, which makes the propaganda feedback loop much more effective at shaping audience perceptions and world views. “
“By using riot porn to incite fear in white people, the right-wing media ecosystem converts the real pain experienced by Black Americans into fodder for deranged, paranoid fantasies that white vigilantes must take up the functions of the police.”
Trump further incites violence by praising Kyle Rittenhouse, justifying the actions of the Trump caravan in Portland. I only clicked on two of her links and one was an editorial, and absolutely not fact based. It was one of the Portland ones and being local to PDX and having been downtown for appointments the past few weeks I can assure you the “facts” in the editorial were wrong. One of the things they were talking about was all the buildings boarded up due to protests, most of the buildings were boarded up well before June when the protesting started. They were boarded up in March when they were forced to close. The other “facts” were also overly exaggerated right wing propaganda. And she has the audacity to state everything she posts is true! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Trumpette’s are bonkers! |
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Post by femalebusiness on Sept 27, 2020 17:54:45 GMT
Can you even imagine living with that gia person? Oh right, no one will live with her. 😂
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Post by pixiechick on Sept 27, 2020 23:22:48 GMT
Not a single headline is untrue so it wouldn't really matter what the source was, you've more than adequately shown you'd simply find a different reason to dismiss verifiable facts. Find your own approved source to see for yourself and show me what I actually got wrong vs. just another vague dismissal. I'm open to being corrected with actual facts, not your vague accusations and dismissals that are easily verified and debunked with truth. Yes, it does matter where the source is from. Headlines from a law enforcement website and NY Post, with a right wing bias and links to the president do not prove that something is true. As Trump likes to say, Fake News! I’m not searching for links to prove your point. Again, if you post links from reputable sources we might take you more seriously. eta - Here are some examples of how the right wing media misrepresented protests. Fox News actually digitally altered images www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/fox-news-runs-digitally-altered-images-in-coverage-of-seattles-protests-capitol-hill-autonomous-zone/www.oregonlive.com/portland/2020/07/feds-right-wing-media-paint-portland-as-city-under-siege-a-tour-of-town-shows-otherwise.htmlwww.technologyreview.com/2020/09/03/1007931/riot-porn-right-wing-vigilante-propaganda-social-media/“ The real difficulty is that competing accounts circulate in parallel universes that are not even close to balanced in their reach. Kevin Roose of the New York Times pointed out that the majority of people on Facebook are witnessing a radically different narrative from the one presented to consumers of mainstream media. In August, he tweeted, CNN saw 21 million Facebook interactions; the right-wing commentator Ben Shapiro gathered 55 million. This doesn’t mean there’s a silent majority of right-wing media consumers—in fact, it means that the right-wing media ecosystem continues to be dense and insular, which makes the propaganda feedback loop much more effective at shaping audience perceptions and world views. “
“By using riot porn to incite fear in white people, the right-wing media ecosystem converts the real pain experienced by Black Americans into fodder for deranged, paranoid fantasies that white vigilantes must take up the functions of the police.”
Trump further incites violence by praising Kyle Rittenhouse, justifying the actions of the Trump caravan in Portland. www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2020/06/02/riots-white-supremacy-and-accelerationism/I can't read the first 2 without a subscription and it's ironic that the third is an opinion after one of mine was dismissed for being an opinion.  Yes, it does matter where the source is from. Not when the headlines given you are true and verifiable. Headlines from a law enforcement website and NY Post, with a right wing bias and links to the president do not prove that something is true. It doesn't mean it's not true just because you don't like the source. Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler moves to escape protester violence — but businesses can’t
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Mayor Lori Lightfoot defends ban on protesters on her block: ‘I have a right to make sure that my home is secure’
TRUE the original link is from the Chicago Tribune Rioters set fire to Hall of Justice in Louisville, attack officers who are trying to put out flames
TRUE The very first Twitter video at the top of the article in original link and is not altered. Chief Smith says last night protesters set fire to a few buildings, including a multi-family residence that was occupied by a child. As fire crews were arriving, Smith says protesters blocked the engine from reaching the fire.True The original link was NBC Portland protesters barricade courthouse with federal officers inside, then try to set it on fire
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Portland man beaten unconscious by BLM mob tried to stop mugging, witness claimsTRUE NY Daily News (left leaning,rated high accuracy) link
“Hey! Hey, we got one right here! We got a Trumper right here!” Followed by: “Right here?” And then, two fatal rounds are fired at Danielson. TRUE Andy Ngo is a journalist covering street protests in Portland, Oregon, testified before congress, exposing Antifa violence. twitter.com/i/status/1299983990351257600 |
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 28, 2020 0:25:12 GMT
No, the first 2 do not require a subscription.
Yes, the third is an opinion. I posted it not as fact, but because the point about riot porn is scary and relevant. I don’t think anyone is disputing that there has been some violence and rioting in some cities, just not to the extent that the right wing media and Trump are trying to instill fear.
From the Seattle Times:
Update: This story has been updated to include an apology Fox News posted on its website on Saturday.
Fox News published digitally altered and misleading photos on stories about Seattle’s Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ) in what photojournalism experts called a clear violation of ethical standards for news organizations.
As part of a package of stories Friday about the zone, where demonstrators have taken over several city blocks on Capitol Hill after Seattle police abandoned the East Precinct, Fox’s website for much of the day featured a photo of a man standing with a military-style rifle in front of what appeared to be a smashed retail storefront.
The image was actually a mashup of photos from different days, taken by different photographers — it was done by splicing a Getty Images photo of an armed man, who had been at the protest zone June 10, with other images from May 30 of smashed windows in downtown Seattle. Another altered image combined the gunman photo with yet another image, making it appear as though he was standing in front of a sign declaring “You are now entering Free Cap Hill.”
Fox’s site had no disclaimers revealing the photos had been manipulated. The network removed the images after inquiries from The Seattle Times.
In addition, Fox’s site for a time on Friday ran a frightening image of a burning city, above a package of stories about Seattle’s protests, headlined “CRAZY TOWN.” The photo actually showed a scene from St. Paul, Minnesota, on May 30. That image also was later removed.
In an emailed statement, a Fox News spokeswoman said: “We have replaced our photo illustration with the clearly delineated images of a gunman and a shattered storefront, both of which were taken this week in Seattle’s autonomous zone.”
That statement is inaccurate, as the gunman photo was taken June 10, while storefront images it was melded with were datelined May 30 by Getty Images.
On Saturday, Fox apologized in an editor’s note posted to stories about CHAZ on its website, saying its home-page photos “did not clearly delineate” the splicing together of multiple images from different locations. The editor’s note also acknowledged the erroneous use of the Minnesota rioting photo to illustrate Seattle news. “Fox News regrets these errors,” the note stated.
The network’s misleading and faked images were published as the Capitol Hill zone — quickly labeled CHAZ — became a political flashpoint for conservatives nationally and a target of tweets by President Donald Trump, who has branded the demonstrators “domestic terrorists” and threatened federal action unless local officials “take back” the area.
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National news outlets on Friday also continued to cite a now-withdrawn comment by a Seattle police commander suggesting protesters were extorting payments from businesses within CHAZ. Seattle police Chief Carmen Best walked back that statement on Thursday, saying the comment was based on rumor and social media. “We haven’t had any formal reports of this occurring,” she said.
The daily scene at CHAZ has mostly been peaceful, with artists painting an enormous “Black Lives Matter” street mural and people gathering for free food, music and documentary films.
However, armed individuals have appeared in the zone, which was occupied by protesters after Seattle police retreated as a de-escalation move following several nights in which police fired tear gas and flash-bang devices. Police said that was in response to projectiles being thrown at officers. At a news conference this week, Best said she disagreed with the decision to leave the precinct, saying its abandonment has led to increased 911 response times.
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Post by pixiechick on Sept 28, 2020 1:43:48 GMT
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