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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2020 0:30:59 GMT
From Politico...
From the article...
“New York, Portland, Ore., Washington, D.C., and Seattle could lose funding for a wide swath of programs that serve their poorest, sickest residents after the president moved last month to restrict funding, escalating his political battle against liberal cities he’s sought to use as a campaign foil.”
This son of a bitch has got to be the most vindictive petty bully that ever walked this earth. This SOB doesn’t care if he hurts people already hurting if he thinks he can “get” those he perceives as his enemies.
This is just wrong.
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Post by pyccku on Oct 21, 2020 0:59:41 GMT
Eventually these blue states will decide that if they can’t rely on the federal govt to help when needed, why bother sending tax dollars to that government?
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Post by purplebee on Oct 21, 2020 1:07:35 GMT
Because there should only be ONE F*CKING PARTY in the USA, and citizens should only vote for trump! And nobody, be it a government official, a working person, a school child or maybe even an infant, should ever disagree with him, because your town/city/ state will be punished for not kissing his miserable orange ass.
As someone born and raised in New York, with close family there, I am PROUD to be from a state that he hates.
He WILL go to hell when he dies.
I despise him.
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Post by moodyblue on Oct 21, 2020 1:11:21 GMT
He is a vindictive son of a bitch, who makes no attempt to be president of all the people.
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 21, 2020 1:12:21 GMT
This son of a bitch has got to be the most vindictive petty bully that ever walked this earth. This SOB doesn’t care if he hurts people already hurting if he thinks he can “get” those he perceives as his enemies. Or another way to see it is... Democratic-led cities are considering slashing millions of dollars for coronavirus relief, HIV treatment, screenings for newborns and other programs. "It is my hope that the cities identified by the Department of Justice today will reverse course and become serious about performing the basic function of government AND START PROTECTING THEIR OWN CITIZENS.” Bill Barr
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Post by femalebusiness on Oct 21, 2020 1:13:24 GMT
Eventually these blue states will decide that if they can’t rely on the federal govt to help when needed, why bother sending tax dollars to that government? This is where I am.
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Post by lizacreates on Oct 21, 2020 1:15:36 GMT
Trump doesn’t have the legal authority. It’s more bluster. Remember when he issued an executive order defunding sanctuary cities? No go. Struck down as unconstitutional and not a presidential power. Whenever you see the term “federal funding,” keep in mind that it pertains to congressionally-appropriated funding, meaning Congress is the one that funds and allocates, not the president.
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Post by MichyM on Oct 21, 2020 1:16:17 GMT
This son of a bitch has got to be the most vindictive petty bully that ever walked this earth. This SOB doesn’t care if he hurts people already hurting if he thinks he can “get” those he perceives as his enemies. Or another way to see it is... Democratic-led cities are considering slashing millions of dollars for coronavirus relief, HIV treatment, screenings for newborns and other programs. "It is my hope that the cities identified by the Department of Justice today will reverse course and become serious about performing the basic function of government AND START PROTECTING THEIR OWN CITIZENS.” Bill Barr Show me where Seattle is doing this. PROVE IT. ETA: actually, don’t bother I should have known not to let your BS affect me.
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Post by MichyM on Oct 21, 2020 1:19:32 GMT
And this is reason #259 why I have such antipathy towards ANY person who supports him. As I said in a different thread today, I truly believe people who vote for him are missing a vital part of their brain. You simply cannot think this is normal and still be a rational human being. Full stop.
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Post by misadventurous on Oct 21, 2020 1:22:34 GMT
And this is reason #259 why I have such antipathy towards ANY person who supports him. As I said in a different thread today, I truly believe people who vote for him are missing a vital part of their brain. You simply cannot think this is normal and still be a rational human being. Full stop. And their heart. And their soul.
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Post by Merge on Oct 21, 2020 1:32:13 GMT
Hmmmm, I wonder how he'll justify that in Democratic cities in red states. I mean, if you really want to make sure Texas and its 38 electoral votes go to the Democrats, you should definitely withdraw federal funding from four of the 11 largest cities in the country.
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 21, 2020 1:38:41 GMT
Or another way to see it is... Democratic-led cities are considering slashing millions of dollars for coronavirus relief, HIV treatment, screenings for newborns and other programs. "It is my hope that the cities identified by the Department of Justice today will reverse course and become serious about performing the basic function of government AND START PROTECTING THEIR OWN CITIZENS.” Bill Barr Show me where Seattle is doing this. PROVE IT. ETA: actually, don’t bother I should have known not to let your BS affect me. The police abandoned the police precinct and let the protesters take over the city block with their autonomous zone.
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Post by tracylynn on Oct 21, 2020 3:15:22 GMT
Show me where Seattle is doing this. PROVE IT. ETA: actually, don’t bother I should have known not to let your BS affect me. The police abandoned the police precinct and let the protesters take over the city block with their autonomous zone. Must be a slow night for you. You really are something special aren't you?
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 21, 2020 3:27:34 GMT
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Post by lucyg on Oct 21, 2020 3:38:20 GMT
Show me where Seattle is doing this. PROVE IT. ETA: actually, don’t bother I should have known not to let your BS affect me. The police abandoned the police precinct and let the protesters take over the city block with their autonomous zone. oh, then so this is NOT actually the case? You just made up that part?
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 21, 2020 6:52:00 GMT
The police abandoned the police precinct and let the protesters take over the city block with their autonomous zone. oh, then so this is NOT actually the case? You just made up that part? It's not anything made up, it's another way to see it. As in who's responsible for the consequences of not keeping their citizens safe? The officials who don't keep their citizens safe or the officials who hold them accountable?
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Post by lucyg on Oct 21, 2020 7:10:12 GMT
oh, then so this is NOT actually the case? You just made up that part? It's not anything made up, it's another way to see it. As in who's responsible for the consequences of not keeping their citizens safe? The officials who don't keep their citizens safe or the officials who hold them accountable? Okay. So you made it up.
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Post by tracylynn on Oct 21, 2020 7:11:36 GMT
oh, then so this is NOT actually the case? You just made up that part? It's not anything made up, it's another way to see it. As in who's responsible for the consequences of not keeping their citizens safe? The officials who don't keep their citizens safe or the officials who hold them accountable? "it's another way to see it" just means you've lost your covfefe and are looking for "alternative" facts. Facts are facts. You don't get to interpret facts. That's not how it works.
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 21, 2020 7:17:39 GMT
It's not anything made up, it's another way to see it. As in who's responsible for the consequences of not keeping their citizens safe? The officials who don't keep their citizens safe or the officials who hold them accountable? Okay. So you made it up. It's just as made up as maddow's tweet in the OP: "The White House is considering slashing millions of dollars for coronavirus relief, HIV treatment, screenings for newborns and other programs" Again, who's responsible for the CONSEQUENCES of not keeping their citizens safe? The officials who don't keep their citizens safe or the officials who hold them accountable?
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Post by cade387 on Oct 21, 2020 10:13:21 GMT
It's just as made up as maddow's tweet in the OP: "The White House is considering slashing millions of dollars for coronavirus relief, HIV treatment, screenings for newborns and other programs" Again, who's responsible for the CONSEQUENCES of not keeping their citizens safe? The officials who don't keep their citizens safe or the officials who hold them accountable? You realize that doesn’t make sense right? If the federal government provides funding for services and the President cuts it only in places where politicians don’t like him, HE is to blame. He is being vindictive and taking it out on the poor and the helpless. I understand that the concept of “the buck stops here” is lost on trump and you but he is the head of the executive branch of the federal government. But you both have shown that don’t care about human life so the gymnastics you are performing are not surprising.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2020 17:25:24 GMT
An opinion piece by Paul Waldman in the Washington Post..
“Think things are ugly and divisive now? Just wait until 2021.“
Opinion by Paul Waldman Columnist
“In our more innocent pre-2016 days, politicians often accused each other of being “divisive,” which often meant little more than “You’re advocating policies I don’t like” or “You’re criticizing me and I don’t like that either.” Donald Trump showed us what divisiveness really is, with two campaigns and a presidency devoted to fomenting hatred and resentment, all based on his belief that if Americans were at war with one another then he could profit from the conflict.
As he closes out his term, Trump is leaning ever harder on division, and other Republicans are enthusiastic participants in his project. But what if he loses? Will they decide that their path back to power might be found somewhere other than telling some Americans to focus their anger on other Americans?
The sad answer is no. This is driven home by a new report that you may have to read two or three times to actually believe it:
The White House is considering slashing millions of dollars for coronavirus relief, HIV treatment, screenings for newborns and other programs in Democratic-led cities that President Donald Trump has deemed “anarchist jurisdictions,” according to documents obtained by POLITICO.
New York, Portland, Ore., Washington, D.C., and Seattle could lose funding for a wide swath of programs that serve their poorest, sickest residents after the president moved last month to restrict funding, escalating his political battle against liberal cities he’s sought to use as a campaign foil.
If they went ahead with this it would be subject to legal challenge, and probably not be implemented. But this is now how the Republican Party operates and what it thinks is perfectly appropriate. Places where there are lots of Democrats should not just be demonized but also punished with the tools of government power. Unless you and your neighbors start voting Republican, you can go to hell.
This isn’t just Trump’s loathsome whims being carried out by the lackeys and sycophants who surround him. It pervades the entire Republican Party.
Consider the current negotiations over another coronavirus relief bill. “If it includes blue state bailout money then I’d say that’s probably a hard no,” Sen. Josh Hawley of Missouri recently said, echoing many GOP colleagues. “That’s probably a red line for this caucus including for me.”
When he says “blue state bailout,” he’s referring to funds for state and local governments to help them deal with the pandemic and keep from having to fire hundreds of thousands of workers, from teachers to firefighters to maintenance workers and many more.
Those funds would of course go to every state, Hawley’s included. But Republicans decided calling it a “blue state bailout” would be an effective way to convince their own constituents to turn against state and local funding. It’s a way of saying “Forget about the fact that not approving these funds will hurt you; you should oppose it because it might help other Americans. You know, the ones we keep telling you to hate.”
For his part, Joe Biden thinks wavering voters would prefer to see a united country, even if it seems like something of a fantasy right now. Which is why he aired this ad during the World Series, and why unity is one of his core closing messages:
Joe Biden: 'Go From There' | Campaign 2020
This campaign ad for Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden urges Americans to choose a president who "brings out our best." (Joe Biden for President)
This is a familiar message; when narrator Sam Elliott says “There is only one America. No Democratic rivers. No Republican mountains,” you can hear the echoes of Barack Obama telling the 2004 Democratic convention, “There is not a liberal America and a conservative America — there is the United States of America.” It’s both something we want to hear and believe, and an aspiration we cannot seem to realize.
If Biden is elected and Democrats control Congress, where will the GOP see its political renewal lying? They’ll again find it in telling their constituents that Those Other People hate them and are trying to annihilate them.
It plays well even when Republicans are the ones holding power; it’s even more potent when they’re in the minority and conservatives can be told they’re history’s victims, and only candidates promising resentment and revanchism can deliver them back what they lost.
And what role will Trump himself play? If he loses, he might spend his days at Mar-a-Lago trying to save his crumbling business in between rounds of golf. But more likely, he’ll be on Twitter, still seeking adulation and validation. He’ll be complaining that the 2020 election was rigged against him. He’ll be dropping hints that he might run in 2024, to convince everyone he’s still relevant.
And he’ll continue stoking the coals of anger and hatred, because that’s just who he is.
Other Republicans, particularly those looking to win the party’s presidential nomination, will see it and understand that they too need to sail on the ocean of bile in which their party swims. They’ll know that a message of unity won’t fly with their base; instead they’ll have to play on those same resentments, insisting that every policy change implemented by Democrats is an attack on the red states and “real” Americans.
We’re already seeing violence and lunacy emerging from the deranged and deluded on the right. The GOP is still in charge, and Democratic governors are the target of kidnapping plots while half of all Republicans think top Democrats are involved in an international pedophile ring. Can you imagine what it will be like when Democrats are the ones holding power?
It’s probably an exaggeration to say we’re headed for a civil war, but there can be little doubt that it will be as ugly as anything we’ve seen in our lifetimes. And Republicans will be doing everything they can to make it worse, every step of the way.“
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Post by papersilly on Oct 21, 2020 17:35:06 GMT
two can play that vindictive game. on November 3rd, i hope the people cut his salary to zero, take away his office, and ding his massive ego with a loss.
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Post by berty on Oct 21, 2020 20:21:57 GMT
Trump doesn’t have the legal authority. It’s more bluster. Remember when he issued an executive order defunding sanctuary cities? No go. Struck down as unconstitutional and not a presidential power. Whenever you see the term “federal funding,” keep in mind that it pertains to congressionally-appropriated funding, meaning Congress is the one that funds and allocates, not the president. Thank you. You often explain a lot of political and legal things that I don’t understand. And, you do it in an easy to understand and concise way. I really do appreciate it.
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 21, 2020 20:46:24 GMT
This is just as crazy as Trump denying emergency funds to Colorado and California for the wildfires, just because he’s petty, vindictive and doesn’t like California. The White House later reversed their decision, but it never should have been rejected in the first place. www.nytimes.com/2020/10/16/us/trump-california-wildfire-relief.htmlEarlier on Friday, Judd Deere, a White House spokesman, referred to the Federal Emergency Management Agency when he said aid for the September fires “was not supported by the relevant data that states must provide for approval and the president concurred with the FEMA administrator’s recommendation.”
Lizzie Litzow, the agency’s press secretary, said damage assessments of some of the fires that started in early September, which included one of the largest fires in California’s history, “were not of such severity and magnitude to exceed the combined capabilities of the state, affected local governments, voluntary agencies and other responding federal agencies.”
The handling of wildfires has become highly politicized during Mr. Trump’s presidency, aggravating tensions between the conservative administration and one of America’s most liberal states. California has sued the president on dozens of issues ranging from the environment to immigration.
Last year, the president threatened to cut off funding for wildfire relief unless California improved the management of its forests.
“Billions of dollars are sent to the State of California for Forest fires that, with proper Forest Management, would never happen,” Mr. Trump tweeted in January 2019. “Unless they get their act together, which is unlikely, I have ordered FEMA to send no more money.”
That threat from Mr. Trump alarmed both Republicans and Democrats in the state. Miles Taylor, a former senior Trump administration official who has endorsed Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s presidential campaign, said in August that Mr. Trump’s reluctance to aid California was overtly political.
“He told us to stop giving money to people whose houses had burned down from a wildfire because he was so rageful that people in the state of California didn’t support him and that politically it wasn’t a base for him,” Mr. Taylor says in a campaign video.
However, many of the largest fires in California over the past four years have ravaged areas that tend to vote Republican. And wildfire experts say Mr. Trump’s analysis of the causes of the blazes is problematic because most of California’s forests are on land owned by the federal government and their maintenance largely falls under the responsibility of his administration.
As wildfires have become hotter, more intense and more destructive in recent years liberals and conservatives have been locked in a debate over the reasons. During a visit to California in September, Mr. Trump said “I don’t think science knows” what is happening when the state’s secretary for natural resources pressed him on the changing climate.
“One camp is saying it’s all climate change driven, and the other is saying it’s all forest management,” said Malcolm North, a forest ecologist at the University of California, Davis. “The reality is that it’s both. I get kind of frustrated at this all-or-nothing type of approach.”
Mr. Newsom last month requested the disaster declaration to include statewide hazard mitigation, as well as public assistance for seven counties.
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Post by lizacreates on Oct 21, 2020 20:58:39 GMT
Trump doesn’t have the legal authority. It’s more bluster. Remember when he issued an executive order defunding sanctuary cities? No go. Struck down as unconstitutional and not a presidential power. Whenever you see the term “federal funding,” keep in mind that it pertains to congressionally-appropriated funding, meaning Congress is the one that funds and allocates, not the president. Thank you. You often explain a lot of political and legal things that I don’t understand. And, you do it in an easy to understand and concise way. I really do appreciate it. Very kind of you. It'll always be my pleasure, berty.
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 22, 2020 19:46:29 GMT
It's just as made up as maddow's tweet in the OP: "The White House is considering slashing millions of dollars for coronavirus relief, HIV treatment, screenings for newborns and other programs" Again, who's responsible for the CONSEQUENCES of not keeping their citizens safe? The officials who don't keep their citizens safe or the officials who hold them accountable? You realize that doesn’t make sense right? If the federal government provides funding for services and the President cuts it only in places where politicians don’t like him, HE is to blame. He is being vindictive and taking it out on the poor and the helpless. I understand that the concept of “the buck stops here” is lost on trump and you but he is the head of the executive branch of the federal government. But you both have shown that don’t care about human life so the gymnastics you are performing are not surprising. You can't dismiss the original human lives that were lost because they allowed these things to happen in these cities. Holding those city officials accountable and trying to get them to reverse their policies that destroy neighborhoods, livelihoods and get people killed -so it won't continue IS caring for human life.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2020 21:27:59 GMT
You realize that doesn’t make sense right? If the federal government provides funding for services and the President cuts it only in places where politicians don’t like him, HE is to blame. He is being vindictive and taking it out on the poor and the helpless. I understand that the concept of “the buck stops here” is lost on trump and you but he is the head of the executive branch of the federal government. But you both have shown that don’t care about human life so the gymnastics you are performing are not surprising. You can't dismiss the original human lives that were lost because they allowed these things to happen in these cities. Holding those city officials accountable and trying to get them to reverse their policies that destroy neighborhoods, livelihoods and get people killed -so it won't continue IS caring for human life. Does this mean you are willing to hold trump accountable for the thousands of Americans that have died and are dying from COVID-19? He knew in January how bad the virus would be but said nothing and did nothing to prepare for what was about to happen. In my book that amounts to criminal negligence on his part.
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 23, 2020 21:59:13 GMT
You can't dismiss the original human lives that were lost because they allowed these things to happen in these cities. Holding those city officials accountable and trying to get them to reverse their policies that destroy neighborhoods, livelihoods and get people killed -so it won't continue IS caring for human life. Does this mean you are willing to hold trump accountable for the thousands of Americans that have died and are dying from COVID-19? He knew in January how bad the virus would be but said nothing and did nothing to prepare for what was about to happen. In my book that amounts to criminal negligence on his part. Changing the subject with false statements doesn't change my view. I continue to stand by my post.
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Post by megop on Oct 23, 2020 22:12:18 GMT
Trump doesn’t have the legal authority. It’s more bluster. Remember when he issued an executive order defunding sanctuary cities? No go. Struck down as unconstitutional and not a presidential power. Whenever you see the term “federal funding,” keep in mind that it pertains to congressionally-appropriated funding, meaning Congress is the one that funds and allocates, not the president. This. Don't let his bloviating cause you angst. It's what he wants for you to rail shoring up his base that liberals are an "angry" bunch.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 22:12:42 GMT
Does this mean you are willing to hold trump accountable for the thousands of Americans that have died and are dying from COVID-19? He knew in January how bad the virus would be but said nothing and did nothing to prepare for what was about to happen. In my book that amounts to criminal negligence on his part. Changing the subject with false statements doesn't change my view. I continue to stand by my post. “You can't dismiss the original human lives that were lost because they allowed these things to happen in these cities. Holding those city officials accountable“You said the above right? You’re talking about holding city officials accountable for there actions or in this case lack of action that led to the death of innocent folks. Correct? If you’re saying these city officials should be held accountable for their lack of action, wouldn't the same be applied to trump when it came to his inaction to COVID-19? Bringing this up is not changing the subject but expanding on it. What false statement?
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