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Post by Really Red on Oct 24, 2020 16:45:57 GMT
The entire quote in context is worse. No. "People are dying but we're trying to prevent more" is not worse than "people are dying, oh well". He has zero empathy, that is indisputable. No, it isn't. Okay, I'll play. Can you give me an example of his empathy? |
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Post by femalebusiness on Oct 24, 2020 16:48:19 GMT
No. "People are dying but we're trying to prevent more" is not worse than "people are dying, oh well". No, it isn't. Okay, I'll play. Can you give me an example of his empathy? 😂🤣😂🤣 |
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Post by sabrinae on Oct 24, 2020 16:51:37 GMT
Regardless of the sentiment of the poster, openly stating it would actually make you vote for Trump is just as stupid. #sorrynotsorry Openly wishing and hoping that some rots to death and others agreeing with her makes those as evil as her. Lately the Biden followers on this board really push death and destruction on trump, his staff and any one who might express their support. I didn’t actually say who I would be voting for in the post, but state that those behaviors of Biden Democrat worshippers promoters tends to make me mot want to consider supporting a candidate who follows advocate such actions! This kind of open ugliness is more likely to push people stating on the edge to vote opposite what you want. If Trump’s own actions don’t push you not to vote for him I do t know what to say to you. He’s the one who advocates sexually assaulting women. He’s the one who advocates his followers assault those who don’t agree with him. He’s the one who says he could shoot someone and his supporters would still support him. He’s the one who refuses to advocate for something as simple as wearing a mask which would save lives. |
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Post by quinlove on Oct 24, 2020 17:23:07 GMT
As I see it, Trump refused to wear / enforce wearing masks because - he was playing to his base. Didn’t want to lose their support. It’s why he’s done just about everything he’s done - so he doesn’t upset his base. All of his actions / words have to do with pleasing his base and his enormous ego. He doesn’t care one tiny bit about me or you. Never has, never will.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Oct 24, 2020 18:32:34 GMT
those behaviors of Biden Democrat worshippers promoters tends to make me mot want to consider supporting a candidate who follows advocate such actions! This kind of open ugliness is more likely to push people stating on the edge to vote opposite what you want. seriously?!? "lock her up!" "Lock 'em all up!" (in relation to the MICHIGAN GOVERNOR)... that led to a plot to KIDNAP a state governor?!? Telling people to stand guard, and stand by?!? What in the HELL do you think ALL of THAT means?? but you go ahead and complain about a random person saying something about Mitch McConnell. eta: obviously I hadn't read the entire thread when I replied, because so many people replied much more eloquently than what I wrote, lol. |
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 24, 2020 19:52:15 GMT
I'm not commenting on the topic I know. But there are pictures of some of the guys who were in on the plot to kidnap Governor Whitmer literally standing side by side with elected Republicans in this state. If they aren't Trump supporters at the very least they are supporting local Republicans. And that's all I needed to see to show me what side they are on. |
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 24, 2020 19:57:45 GMT
And yet they didn't shoot anyone, didn't pull anyone out of their vehicle and beat them senseless, didn't burn any buildings with people trapped inside, didn't burn any buildings at all, didn't destroy vehicles, didn't throw bricks at cops, didn't try to blind cops with lasers, and didn't physically assault any cops or anyone at all. Whether you agree or not with their protest of locking businesses down until they go under, they exercised their right to be armed and their right to be angry and protest -without doing any of those things. Please check in on the facts of those "innocents". One slammed him in the back of the head with a skateboard, one had a gun he was raising at him and getting ready to shoot him. His dumbass friend even tweeted that. Check in on the facts of that one too. Not Trump supporters. Liar. FBI has said differently. But this is normal and expected from you—you lie and gaslight and spread disinformation just as well as team trump. About what? |
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 24, 2020 19:59:37 GMT
No. "People are dying but we're trying to prevent more" is not worse than "people are dying, oh well". No, it isn't. Okay, I'll play. Can you give me an example of his empathy? Why? Anything I show you will be dismissed. What I was disagreeing with is "that is indisputable". It absolutely is disputable. |
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 24, 2020 20:03:41 GMT
Okay, I'll play. Can you give me an example of his empathy? Why? Anything I show you will be dismissed. What I was disagreeing with is "that is indisputable". It absolutely is disputable. Then dispute it, let’s see your evidence. |
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 24, 2020 20:04:13 GMT
Why? Anything I show you will be dismissed. What I was disagreeing with is "that is indisputable". It absolutely is disputable. Then dispute it, let’s see your evidence. |
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 24, 2020 20:12:45 GMT
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Post by jeremysgirl on Oct 24, 2020 20:25:03 GMT
I'm not commenting on the topic I know. But there are pictures of some of the guys who were in on the plot to kidnap Governor Whitmer literally standing side by side with elected Republicans in this state. If they aren't Trump supporters at the very least they are supporting local Republicans. And that's all I needed to see to show me what side they are on. I have no idea who charlie kirk is. And that was not the set of photos I was referencing. I believe the article I read was in the Detroit Free Press. And two of suspects were identified in the armed intimidation on the day of the unlock protests as well. |
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Post by peasapie on Oct 24, 2020 21:14:23 GMT
To answer your question - I hope so. Wishing someone dead or dying is I hope not representative of who you are nor of the people who like you post. If nothing could make me want to vote for Trump more after comments like these, I don’t know what would. I also don’t Biden would appreciate followers with such evil thoughts. Do you people really think about what you post!!!!!  ? Are you drinking? I can't even understand your grammar in this post. I think you are saying you want to vote for the pussy grabber because someone here despises someone else in his political party. That's a great reason to want to vote for someone... As for Mitch McConnell, obviously there is some sort of medical situation going on. They're all old men, so they all have conditions. I say get rid of the great medical benefits they all have so they can see what it's like to pay for their own medical, and they would vote in a heartbeat for Bidencare. |
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 24, 2020 21:24:49 GMT
That’s the best you can come up with as proof of Trump’s empathy? Anything you say will be dismissed? If you’re not willing to show any evidence, if you cant dispute it, I think my statement stands that his lack of empathy is indisputable.
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 24, 2020 21:33:27 GMT
Just in case the other links posted are not convincing, more evidence or opinions on Trump’s lack of empathy. And by the way, no trouble finding any of this. Quick, easy google search. Curious, if you make the effort, to see how deep you have to dig to find anything showing he does have empathy. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/10/05/americans-showed-trump-compassion-he-repaid-us-with-contempt/www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-05-04/trump-rarely-shows-empathy-in-coronavirus-crisiswww.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/oct/04/trump-covid-hospital-sympathy-decencyAnd at almost the same time that Biden, Harris and Obama offered prayers and consoling words, the Trump campaign blasted “Lyin’ Obama and Phony Kamala Harris” and charged that “Sleepy Joe isn’t fit to be YOUR President”.
www.washingtonpost.com/politics/13-hours-of-trump-the-president-fills-briefings-with-attacks-and-boasts-but-little-empathy/2020/04/25/7eec5ab0-8590-11ea-a3eb-e9fc93160703_story.htmlwww.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/26/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-briefings-analyzed.htmlEven his own aides have encouraged him to show empathy, but he seems incapable. www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-trump-tone/trump-struggles-with-tone-in-virus-crisis-aides-urge-more-empathy-idUSKBN21F0UOIts not just to Coronavirus, back in 2017 he didn’t have empathy then either. After the hurricane in Puerto Rico, Trump lashed out at the mayor of San Juan, urged officials to say positive things about his administration and threw rolls of paper towels into the crowd at a relief center like he was tossing T-shirts at a sporting event.apnews.com/article/918d780c0a0949668dc12a4af3532af3 |
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Post by christine58 on Oct 24, 2020 21:39:20 GMT
He might be on blood thinners. Any little bump will cause such bruises. Very true...my dad's hands looked kind of like this at times. |
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Post by peasapie on Oct 24, 2020 21:56:25 GMT
That’s the best you can come up with as proof of Trump’s empathy? Anything you say will be dismissed? If you’re not willing to show any evidence, if you cant dispute it, I think my statement stands that his lack of empathy is indisputable. I agree with you on this. Throughout that entire debate, I was listening for empathy towards people who have died from covid, towards children separated from immigrant parents, towards people who have lost jobs or who are struggling to make ends meet by working two and three jobs. The only empathy I heard came from Joe Biden. Furthermore, I've heard Donnie Trump make fun of many people -- on an ongoing basis. So anyone here defending him because someone says something negative towards Moscow Mitch is a hypocrite of the highest order. You can just spare me the fake tears. |
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Post by peano on Oct 24, 2020 23:46:46 GMT
I'm not commenting on the topic I know. But there are pictures of some of the guys who were in on the plot to kidnap Governor Whitmer literally standing side by side with elected Republicans in this state. If they aren't Trump supporters at the very least they are supporting local Republicans. And that's all I needed to see to show me what side they are on. The AP article is debunking that the would-be kidnappers were photographed with Charlie Kirk, who is not an elected official, just a Republican active in the right-wing imaginary universe (and spoke at the RNC this summer) and therefore has nothing at all to do with what you and jeremysgirl are debating. There may be no video of the would-be kidnappers declaring their adoration for The Thing, (but then again, there may be, I am just not going to do the research to find out) but a quick google yields that they totally support all his pet ideas. So we're gonna call them Trump supporters. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 25, 2020 0:11:06 GMT
The AP article is debunking that the would-be kidnappers were photographed with Charlie Kirk, who is not an elected official, just a Republican active in the right-wing imaginary universe (and spoke at the RNC this summer) and therefore has nothing at all to do with what you and jeremysgirl are debating. There may be no video of the would-be kidnappers declaring their adoration for The Thing, (but then again, there may be, I am just not going to do the research to find out) but a quick google yields that they totally support all his pet ideas. So we're gonna call them Trump supporters. It’s typical Gia— She makes lying, gaslighting claims, and when told/shown factual evidence, she wants you to prove her set of opinions. Today’s news—regarding those “left” protesters and looters.. “Charges: A Boogaloo Bois fired on Minneapolis’ Third Precinct with an AK-47-style gun and screamed “Justice for Floyd” as he ran away, in part of a coordinated attack by the far-right anti-government group during unrest over the death of George Floyd.” “13 With Ties to Right-Wing Militias Charged in Plots to Kidnap Michigan Governor, Target Police The six men charged in the kidnapping scheme surveilled the governor’s vacation home, trained with explosives and planned to ‘try’ her for ‘treason.’ By Claire Hansen Staff Writer • Oct. 8, 2020, at 4:09 p.m. Thirteen men with ties to illegal right-wing militias are facing charges in connection with extensive plots to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, attack the state Capitol building and incite a civil war, federal and state officials announced Thursday.” |
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Post by Really Red on Oct 25, 2020 14:02:47 GMT
Then dispute it, let’s see your evidence. I am troubled that you are apparently incapable of even trying. During this last debate, when Biden was talking about the 545 children whose parents are missing, and about them being kept in cages, Trump responded with "Good." It was CHILLING. You can possible dispute other things about Trump, but I don't see anyone disputing his lack of empathy. |
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 25, 2020 22:45:02 GMT
I have no idea who charlie kirk is. And that was not the set of photos I was referencing. I believe the article I read was in the Detroit Free Press. And two of suspects were identified in the armed intimidation on the day of the unlock protests as well. I can't seem to find any photos like you're talking about. Do you have a link? Everything I have read said they're very anti-government and dislike Trump. But I'd like to see what you're talking about because I don't want my thoughts and opinions to be made with missing information. |
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Post by smginaz Suzy on Oct 25, 2020 22:59:44 GMT
The AP article is debunking that the would-be kidnappers were photographed with Charlie Kirk, who is not an elected official, just a Republican active in the right-wing imaginary universe (and spoke at the RNC this summer) and therefore has nothing at all to do with what you and jeremysgirl are debating. There may be no video of the would-be kidnappers declaring their adoration for The Thing, (but then again, there may be, I am just not going to do the research to find out) but a quick google yields that they totally support all his pet ideas. So we're gonna call them Trump supporters. It’s typical Gia— She makes lying, gaslighting claims, and when told/shown factual evidence, she wants you to prove her set of opinions. Today’s news—regarding those “left” protesters and looters.. “Charges: A Boogaloo Bois fired on Minneapolis’ Third Precinct with an AK-47-style gun and screamed “Justice for Floyd” as he ran away, in part of a coordinated attack by t he far-right anti-government group domestic terrorists during unrest over the death of George Floyd.” “13 With Ties to Right-Wing Militias Domestic Terrorism Charged in Plots to Kidnap Michigan Governor, Target Police The six men charged in the kidnapping scheme surveilled the governor’s vacation home, trained with explosives and planned to ‘try’ her for ‘treason.’ By Claire Hansen Staff Writer • Oct. 8, 2020, at 4:09 p.m. Thirteen men with ties to illegal right-wing militias domestic terrorists are facing charges in connection with extensive plots to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, attack the state Capitol building and incite a civil war, federal and state officials announced Thursday.” Let's start calling them by the right name. |
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 26, 2020 2:39:15 GMT
There are a number of posts listing the ways that Trump lacks empathy. We’re still waiting for you to prove he does have empathy.
NM, your post seems to have disappeared. Guess you’re not up to the challenge after all.
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 26, 2020 2:42:59 GMT
I am troubled that you are apparently incapable of even trying. During this last debate, when Biden was talking about the 545 children whose parents are missing, and about them being kept in cages, Trump responded with "Good." It was CHILLING. You can possible dispute other things about Trump, but I don't see anyone disputing his lack of empathy. The word isn't incapable, the word you're looking for is futile. Do you think the board will prove "it's futile" wrong? Or is the the inclination to dismiss ANYTHING Trump-positive stronger? |
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Post by lucyg on Oct 26, 2020 5:43:56 GMT
let’s talk about Trump supporters. Among other things, they show up armed in state capitals. And yet they didn't shoot anyone, didn't pull anyone out of their vehicle and beat them senseless, didn't burn any buildings with people trapped inside, didn't burn any buildings at all, didn't destroy vehicles, didn't throw bricks at cops, didn't try to blind cops with lasers, and didn't physically assault any cops or anyone at all. Whether you agree or not with their protest of locking businesses down until they go under, they exercised their right to be armed and their right to be angry and protest -without doing any of those things. They shoot innocent people having a peaceful protest (Kyle Rittenhouse). Please check in on the facts of those "innocents". One slammed him in the back of the head with a skateboard, one had a gun he was raising at him and getting ready to shoot him. His dumbass friend even tweeted that. They plotted to kidnap 2 Democratic Governors. Check in on the facts of that one too. Not Trump supporters. It was right-wingers, not left-wingers, who burned down the police precinct in Minneapolis. www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/23/texas-boogaloo-boi-minneapolis-police-building-george-floydIt was right-wingers, not left-wingers, who murdered two law enforcement officers in California. www.sacbee.com/news/california/article243881047.htmlKyle Rittenhouse is charged with first-degree homicide in the second shooting, hardly a hallmark of self-defense. The guy he shot was trying to disarm him after he shot the first guy. www.jsonline.com/story/news/2020/08/27/kyle-rittenhouse-charged-homicide-kenosha-protest-shootings-17-year-old/5650698002/Here is a news article from Michigan that includes a photo of one of the founders of the Wolverine Watchmen wearing a Trump cap, although admittedly many of them are anti-government. www.bridgemi.com/michigan-government/wolverine-watchmen-militia-linked-whitmer-kidnap-plot-has-boogaloo-ties |
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 26, 2020 10:45:43 GMT
It was right-wingers, not left-wingers, who burned down the police precinct in Minneapolis. No one did that in the armed, peaceful protest in the capital that aj2hall was complaining about. It was right-wingers, not left-wingers, who murdered two law enforcement officers in California. Didn't happen in anything that was being discussed. Kenosha or Michigan capitol building. Yes, there are crazy nut jobs on the right too. No one is shocked. Kyle Rittenhouse is charged with first-degree homicide in the second shooting, hardly a hallmark of self-defense. The guy he shot was trying to disarm him after he shot the first guy. That's not what the videos show. Even a NY Times reporter was an eyewitness and said Kyle didn't start this. Here is a news article from Michigan that includes a photo of one of the founders of the Wolverine Watchmen wearing a Trump cap, although admittedly many of them are anti-government.That guy was not among the kidnappers. The point being, none of them were motivated by Trump. |
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Post by jeremysgirl on Oct 26, 2020 11:27:32 GMT
I give you guys a lot of credit for continuing to engage with someone who is trying so damn hard to justify their Trump support. When I say things on political threads, it is for the benefit of saying outloud what I know to be happening. I think Elaine said it best on another thread. It's not that I want to engage with the willfully ignorant, it's that I need to say outloud what my thoughts and position are. Anyone with any capacity to read his Twitter feed can see with their own eyes how the president is inciting unrest. I'm at the point where I don't care to convince people otherwise who bury their heads and refuse to see it. There's a lack of common sense there. A try at a aha moment that doesn't exist. An believed exoneration based on some weird technicality.
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 26, 2020 11:44:34 GMT
I give you guys a lot of credit for continuing to engage with someone who is trying so damn hard to justify their Trump support. When I say things on political threads, it is for the benefit of saying outloud what I know to be happening. I think Elaine said it best on another thread. It's not that I want to engage with the willfully ignorant, it's that I need to say outloud what my thoughts and position are. Anyone with any capacity to read his Twitter feed can see with their own eyes how the president is inciting unrest. I'm at the point where I don't care to convince people otherwise who bury their heads and refuse to see it. There's a lack of common sense there. A try at a aha moment that doesn't exist. An believed exoneration based on some weird technicality. I'm not trying for an aha moment. Anyone should be allowed to show what they see just as much as those you agree with. No one says you have to agree with me or that you should be convinced by anything, or that you even have to read dissenting opinions. But when someone's only response to dissenting opinions is don't engage her because it's willfully ignorant to see it any other way than the way we do, you're doing nothing but silencing debate. I say out loud what I know to be happening too and differing viewpoints should not be responded to in a way meant to shut down discussion. |
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Post by Really Red on Oct 26, 2020 18:48:48 GMT
I am troubled that you are apparently incapable of even trying. During this last debate, when Biden was talking about the 545 children whose parents are missing, and about them being kept in cages, Trump responded with "Good." It was CHILLING. You can possible dispute other things about Trump, but I don't see anyone disputing his lack of empathy. The word isn't incapable, the word you're looking for is futile. Do you think the board will prove "it's futile" wrong? Or is the the inclination to dismiss ANYTHING Trump-positive stronger? I guess we're all still trying to find anything that Trump does that is positive. So maybe you're right. Futile is the correct word. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 26, 2020 19:10:03 GMT
Kyle Rittenhouse is charged with first-degree homicide in the second shooting, hardly a hallmark of self-defense. The guy he shot was trying to disarm him after he shot the first guy. “That's not what the videos show. Even a NY Times reporter was an eyewitness and said Kyle didn't start this.” —pixiechick Yet Kyle was the only one present who murdered people...🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐 |
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