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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 26, 2020 19:13:11 GMT
I give you guys a lot of credit for continuing to engage with someone who is trying so damn hard to justify their Trump support. When I say things on political threads, it is for the benefit of saying outloud what I know to be happening. I think Elaine said it best on another thread. It's not that I want to engage with the willfully ignorant, it's that I need to say outloud what my thoughts and position are. Anyone with any capacity to read his Twitter feed can see with their own eyes how the president is inciting unrest. I'm at the point where I don't care to convince people otherwise who bury their heads and refuse to see it. There's a lack of common sense there. A try at a aha moment that doesn't exist. An believed exoneration based on some weird technicality. I'm not trying for an aha moment. Anyone should be allowed to show what they see just as much as those you agree with. No one says you have to agree with me or that you should be convinced by anything, or that you even have to read dissenting opinions. But when someone's only response to dissenting opinions is don't engage her because it's willfully ignorant to see it any other way than the way we do, you're doing nothing but silencing debate. I say out loud what I know to be happening too and differing viewpoints should not be responded to in a way meant to shut down discussion. Yup. Gia.
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Post by inkedup on Oct 26, 2020 20:07:00 GMT
To answer your question - I hope so. Wishing someone dead or dying is I hope not representative of who you are nor of the people who like you post. If nothing could make me want to vote for Trump more after comments like these, I don’t know what would. I also don’t Biden would appreciate followers with such evil thoughts. Do you people really think about what you post!!!!! ? Oh, how cute! One mean comment on a message board and President "Fuck Your Feelings" followers are all upset. That one comment was enough to make her vote Trump. Over 230,000 dead, children in cages, a 1st "Lady" that doesn't even care about "the Fucking Christmas", Americans in crisis... And one comment from a leftie is why you're sure you're voting Trump. Take your self righteous excuses and stuff em where the MAGA don't shine. You - and your bigotry and idiocy and small mindedness - are why you're voting for Trump.
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 26, 2020 20:23:58 GMT
That's not what the videos show. Even a NY Times reporter was an eyewitness and said Kyle didn't start this. That guy was not among the kidnappers. The point being, none of them were motivated by Trump. He started it? Really? That’s the defense you’re going with? Kyle showed up fully armed and murdered someone. Nothing anyone did justifies that. I don’t care who started it. As far as the wolverine watchmen, Trump tweeted “Liberate Michigan” and you don’t think that influenced them? He also told the Proud Boys to Stand back and stand by. They have taken that as a rallying cry. I think the jury is still out while the FBI is collecting evidence, but it would be naive to assume Trump had nothing to do with the plot to kidnap the governor. After the plot was announced, he continued to insult her and complained that she didn’t thank him.
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Post by papersilly on Oct 26, 2020 20:26:52 GMT
his outsides are just catching up to his heart and mind.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 26, 2020 21:04:23 GMT
That's not what the videos show. Even a NY Times reporter was an eyewitness and said Kyle didn't start this. That guy was not among the kidnappers. The point being, none of them were motivated by Trump. He started it? Really? That’s the defense you’re going with? Kyle showed up fully armed and murdered someone. Nothing anyone did justifies that. I don’t care who started it. As far as the wolverine watchmen, Trump tweeted “Liberate Michigan” and you don’t think that influenced them? He also told the Proud Boys to Stand back and stand by. They have taken that as a rallying cry. I think the jury is still out while the FBI is collecting evidence, but it would be naive to assume Trump had nothing to do with the plot to kidnap the governor. After the plot was announced, he continued to insult her and complained that she didn’t thank him. Gia/pixiechick is Incapable of looking at the facts and putting them together for the full, contextually correct picture. Her typical posts are to isolate a sentence, a string of words, a phrase and insist that it stand alone on its own merits to try to prove her point, without considering context or the continued behaviors. She fails most of the time because most readers here are not brainwashed cult of sheeple who reside in an echo chamber of trumpdom—nor are we lazy—we actually check the records for the facts and bring the receipts. Then, when she’s been shown the door, her typical MO goes right to “oh the libs are mean and suppressing my opinions and are silencing discussion that is different from my views.” You can bank on her methods like clockwork.
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Post by lucyg on Oct 26, 2020 21:19:21 GMT
I give you guys a lot of credit for continuing to engage with someone who is trying so damn hard to justify their Trump support. When I say things on political threads, it is for the benefit of saying outloud what I know to be happening. I think Elaine said it best on another thread. It's not that I want to engage with the willfully ignorant, it's that I need to say outloud what my thoughts and position are. Anyone with any capacity to read his Twitter feed can see with their own eyes how the president is inciting unrest. I'm at the point where I don't care to convince people otherwise who bury their heads and refuse to see it. There's a lack of common sense there. A try at a aha moment that doesn't exist. An believed exoneration based on some weird technicality. I'm not trying for an aha moment. Anyone should be allowed to show what they see just as much as those you agree with. No one says you have to agree with me or that you should be convinced by anything, or that you even have to read dissenting opinions. But when someone's only response to dissenting opinions is don't engage her because it's willfully ignorant to see it any other way than the way we do, you're doing nothing but silencing debate. I say out loud what I know to be happening too and differing viewpoints should not be responded to in a way meant to shut down discussion. You know that’s another Gia tell, right? And no one is ever saying not to respond to you because you disagree. It’s always about your approach to the debate. But somehow it’s like catnip and I can never resist.
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 26, 2020 21:28:45 GMT
The word isn't incapable, the word you're looking for is futile. Do you think the board will prove "it's futile" wrong? Or is the the inclination to dismiss ANYTHING Trump-positive stronger? I guess we're all still trying to find anything that Trump does that is positive. So maybe you're right. Futile is the correct word. He has stated several times that I can think of that he felt bad for people who were going through a rough time publically. He was sad about hitting a corona virus milestone. Trump empathized with American workers and small business owners enough to take actions to make sure they had help during the shutdown. He has said he was feeling bad for the person about something he said that was wrong to say. Trump empathized with several people in prison for nonviolent crimes, they showed they were good people that didn’t deserve such long sentences and he granted them clemency. He was sad for Queen Elizabeth and stood up for her when Harry and Meghan separated from the royal family. He showed empathy for the black people who were unfairly targeted for prison with his First Step Act. He showed empathy for people living in poverty by creating opportunity zones.
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 26, 2020 21:38:38 GMT
Wishing someone dead or dying is I hope not representative of who you are nor of the people who like you post. If nothing could make me want to vote for Trump more after comments like these, I don’t know what would. I also don’t Biden would appreciate followers with such evil thoughts. Do you people really think about what you post!!!!! ? The guy is pure evil. Like Hitler-level evil. Wishing him dead seems to be a natural reaction. This is just pathetic rationalization to act in the same way he acts. Rationalizing your own evil doesn't make you any better.
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Post by moodyblue on Oct 26, 2020 21:39:41 GMT
I guess we're all still trying to find anything that Trump does that is positive. So maybe you're right. Futile is the correct word. He has stated several times that I can think of that he felt bad for people who were going through a rough time publically. He was sad about hitting a corona virus milestone. Trump empathized with American workers and small business owners enough to take actions to make sure they had help during the shutdown. He has said he was feeling bad for the person about something he said that was wrong to say. Trump empathized with several people in prison for nonviolent crimes, they showed they were good people that didn’t deserve such long sentences and he granted them clemency. He was sad for Queen Elizabeth and stood up for her when Harry and Meghan separated from the royal family. He showed empathy for the black people who were unfairly targeted for prison with his First Step Act. He showed empathy for people living in poverty by creating opportunity zones. And every one of those is an example of words he mouthed, sometimes even possibly words written for him by others, or actions that he took because it was the right thing to do. Just because you say the words doesn’t indicate you actually "get it" and mean what you said.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2020 21:41:10 GMT
I guess we're all still trying to find anything that Trump does that is positive. So maybe you're right. Futile is the correct word. He has stated several times that I can think of that he felt bad for people who were going through a rough time publically. He was sad about hitting a corona virus milestone. Trump empathized with American workers and small business owners enough to take actions to make sure they had help during the shutdown. He has said he was feeling bad for the person about something he said that was wrong to say. Trump empathized with several people in prison for nonviolent crimes, they showed they were good people that didn’t deserve such long sentences and he granted them clemency. He was sad for Queen Elizabeth and stood up for her when Harry and Meghan separated from the royal family. He showed empathy for the black people who were unfairly targeted for prison with his First Step Act. He showed empathy for people living in poverty by creating opportunity zones. 🙄🖕
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 26, 2020 21:42:43 GMT
Okay, I'll play. Can you give me an example of his empathy? Why? Anything I show you will be dismissed. What I was disagreeing with is "that is indisputable". It absolutely is disputable.
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 26, 2020 21:57:03 GMT
All of the former presidents have shown more compassion than Trump. Even though I disagreed with him politically, George W Bush rose to the occasion and showed empathy post 911. Visiting the site of the World Trade Center and talking to first responders. Just watch this video of his address to the nation on 9/11. Maybe it will remind you of what a president should look like and sound like. He praised first responders and delivered a calm, reassuring message. He united Americans, not just Republicans, red states, his base or those that supported him, the ENTIRE country. Imagine if we had a president right now capable of uniting us against a common enemy instead of dividing us and pitting us against each other. www.nbcnews.com/now/video/from-the-archives-george-w-bush-s-oval-office-speech-on-9-11-68719685777www.nytimes.com/2020/05/03/us/politics/george-w-bush-coronavirus-unity.htmlPresident Obama showed empathy on many occasions, but maybe most notably after Sandy Hook. He actually cried. And he moved the Secret Service to tears. www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/05/why-men-should-cry-more-in-public/During the pandemic, President Obama delivered a very moving speech to seniors. That kind of heart felt message just can’t be faked. Show me 1 time during this pandemic Trump has done anything that even approaches what previous presidents have done. Reading from a TelePrompTer does not count. Looking people in the eye, talking to them and saying I’m sorry. Something else he’s incapable of, he never apologizes for anything.
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Post by inkedup on Oct 26, 2020 22:21:26 GMT
The guy is pure evil. Like Hitler-level evil. Wishing him dead seems to be a natural reaction. This is just pathetic rationalization to act in the same way he acts. Rationalizing your own evil doesn't make you any better. Since when is "evil" an issue for you? It hasn't mattered one bit that Trump and Co. are some of the worst people on earth, so spare me your bullshit concern for about anyone else's moral compass. Your moral compass - or rather, what exists of it - is stuck firmly between "non-existent" and Donald Trump's asshole. And yup. I'm cussing and I'm insulting you. My behavior is fucking presidential. It's so presidential, I think a Trumper like you should proudly defend it 😘
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 26, 2020 22:30:55 GMT
All of the former presidents have shown more compassion than Trump. That's quite a switch from... He has zero empathy, that is indisputable.I agree with the first, the bolded is what I disagreed with.
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 26, 2020 22:34:18 GMT
This is just pathetic rationalization to act in the same way he acts. Rationalizing your own evil doesn't make you any better. Since when is "evil" an issue for you? It hasn't mattered one bit that Trump and Co. are some of the worst people on earth, so spare me your bullshit concern for about anyone else's moral compass. Your moral compass - or rather, what exists of it - is stuck firmly between "non-existent" and Donald Trump's asshole. And yup. I'm cussing and I'm insulting you. My behavior is fucking presidential. It's so presidential, I think a Trumper like you should proudly defend it 😘 When you condemn evil by being evil yourself, you're no better.
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Post by inkedup on Oct 26, 2020 22:38:28 GMT
Since when is "evil" an issue for you? It hasn't mattered one bit that Trump and Co. are some of the worst people on earth, so spare me your bullshit concern for about anyone else's moral compass. Your moral compass - or rather, what exists of it - is stuck firmly between "non-existent" and Donald Trump's asshole. And yup. I'm cussing and I'm insulting you. My behavior is fucking presidential. It's so presidential, I think a Trumper like you should proudly defend it 😘 When you condemn evil by being evil yourself, you're no better. And what do you call a person who defends evil at every turn? Evil adjacent? Will this excuse fly with your god? "I know I defended the act of caging innocent children, Lord, but they said mean things about Donald Trump!" I don't personally wish anyone dead (props to me on that pro-life/all-lices matter stance!), but I'm not mad at those who feel that way. I'm good with being "evil" in your warped mind.
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 26, 2020 22:42:48 GMT
And what do you call a person who defends evil at every turn? I'll let you know when it happens.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2020 22:43:44 GMT
And what do you call a person who defends evil at every turn? I'll let you know when it happens. I know what to call them - Gia aka pixiechick.
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Post by cade387 on Oct 26, 2020 22:54:05 GMT
I'm not commenting on the topic I know. But there are pictures of some of the guys who were in on the plot to kidnap Governor Whitmer literally standing side by side with elected Republicans in this state. If they aren't Trump supporters at the very least they are supporting local Republicans. And that's all I needed to see to show me what side they are on. Not true. From the APWrong guy but nice try. Kelley was with John James and Pence. He helped organize the rally at the capitol. He was also photographed with trump.
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Post by Merge on Oct 26, 2020 22:57:49 GMT
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 26, 2020 23:03:34 GMT
Wrong guy but nice try. Kelley was with John James and Pence. He helped organize the rally at the capitol. He was also photographed with trump. That's what jeramysgirl already said and I asked very kindly for a link to the pictures. I still haven't seen any of those pictures. Nothing but claims of their existence.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 26, 2020 23:16:52 GMT
Since when is "evil" an issue for you? It hasn't mattered one bit that Trump and Co. are some of the worst people on earth, so spare me your bullshit concern for about anyone else's moral compass. Your moral compass - or rather, what exists of it - is stuck firmly between "non-existent" and Donald Trump's asshole. And yup. I'm cussing and I'm insulting you. My behavior is fucking presidential. It's so presidential, I think a Trumper like you should proudly defend it 😘 When you condemn evil by being evil yourself, you're no better. When you defend a racist, you’re no better. When you defend a misogynist, you’re no better. When you defend a whites supremacist, you are no better. When you defend a man who makes fun of the handicapped, you are no better. When you defend a serial, sex predator, you are no better. When you defend an epic liar like Trump, you are no better.
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Post by cade387 on Oct 27, 2020 0:33:03 GMT
Wrong guy but nice try. Kelley was with John James and Pence. He helped organize the rally at the capitol. He was also photographed with trump. That's what jeramysgirl already said and I asked very kindly for a link to the pictures. I still haven't seen any of those pictures. Nothing but claims of their existence. Your article referenced a different guy. I know they must be hard to keep apart as there are so many of them. Kelley now deleted them. They were published in the articles. James hasn’t returned the money that I’m aware of and DTJ was going to hold an illegal rally at the gun shop the guy is involved with until he was basically shamed to cancel. The whole thing is a joke. The links are there. You haven’t bothered to post any for anyone else
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Post by nine on Oct 27, 2020 0:45:42 GMT
The guy is pure evil. Like Hitler-level evil. Wishing him dead seems to be a natural reaction. This is just pathetic rationalization to act in the same way he acts. Rationalizing your own evil doesn't make you any better. Agree to disagree. He may have SAID those things you mentioned above, but his deeds are to the contrary. Evil. Pure evil. He even calls himself the Grim Reaper and smiles about it. Just wait until he tkes away health care from 23 million people. And then empathizes with them about it.
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Post by mimima on Oct 27, 2020 0:55:40 GMT
If he were sad about the Coronavirus, the economic devastation, and the burden upon the first responders, I would hope he would channel that grief into passing the HEROES Act instead if ramming through a Supreme Court Judge.
Actions speak louder than words.
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