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Post by myboysnme on Oct 28, 2020 18:25:55 GMT
Ok I can't understand why a thread is started directed specifically to someone who is no longer here. If she deleted her account, is she still lurking? Because unless she is, how exactly is she going to see that she will be missed? If she emailed the card swappers, can't you just email her and tell her you will miss her?
This obviously has nothing to do with trying to send a message to leowife. It always personally bugs me when women attach themselves to their husband's career like it is their career too (decades of dealing with military wives wearing their husband's rank) so I admittedly always saw her as someone without her own life. Reading how she met him in highschool and has basically been his wife since then and not having her own thing, I have a bit more understanding of why her world view seems so limited.
Anyway, I won't really miss her but she did provide some opportunity for confronting these old time views of life she liked to espouse, kind of like a 1950s wife wating for her man to come home for dinner in heels and pearls. That's just how I see it.
But starting a thread for someone who left? Wtf is up with that?
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Post by Restless Spirit on Oct 28, 2020 18:32:44 GMT
Ok I can't understand why a thread is started directed specifically to someone who is no longer here. If she deleted her account, is she still lurking? Because unless she is, how exactly is she going to see that she will be missed? If she emailed the card swappers, can't you just email her and tell her you will miss her? This obviously has nothing to do with trying to send a message to leowife. It always personally bugs me when women attach themselves to their husband's career like it is their career too (decades of dealing with military wives wearing their husband's rank) so I admittedly always saw her as someone without her own life. Reading how she met him in highschool and has basically been his wife since then and not having her own thing, I have a bit more understanding of why her world view seems so limited. Anyway, I won't really miss her but she did provide some opportunity for confronting these old time views of life she liked to espouse, kind of like a 1950s wife wating for her man to come home for dinner in heels and pearls. That's just how I see it. But starting a thread for someone who left? Wtf is up with that? Oh my word. Thank you for posting that. I 100% agree. in addition, before everyone tries to canonize Leowife as this saint of a woman - need I remind you that she tried to politicize the Christmas card list. The Christmas card list! She explicitly put in the original Christmas card list post that she was going to check political affiliations and she was going to BAN those that she didnāt agree with. Plus she wanted everyoneās full name and address or she wouldnāt have allowed you to join the list. That woman had control issues. I think it was best she stepped away from the board.
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Post by Merge on Oct 28, 2020 18:43:00 GMT
Ok I can't understand why a thread is started directed specifically to someone who is no longer here. If she deleted her account, is she still lurking? Because unless she is, how exactly is she going to see that she will be missed? If she emailed the card swappers, can't you just email her and tell her you will miss her? This obviously has nothing to do with trying to send a message to leowife. It always personally bugs me when women attach themselves to their husband's career like it is their career too (decades of dealing with military wives wearing their husband's rank) so I admittedly always saw her as someone without her own life. Reading how she met him in highschool and has basically been his wife since then and not having her own thing, I have a bit more understanding of why her world view seems so limited. Anyway, I won't really miss her but she did provide some opportunity for confronting these old time views of life she liked to espouse, kind of like a 1950s wife wating for her man to come home for dinner in heels and pearls. That's just how I see it. But starting a thread for someone who left? Wtf is up with that? Oh my word. Thank you for posting that. I 100% agree. in addition, before everyone tries to canonize Leowife as this saint of a woman - need I remind you that she tried to politicize the Christmas card list. The Christmas card list! She explicitly put in the original Christmas card list post that she was going to check political affiliations and she was going to BAN those that she didnāt agree with. Plus she wanted everyoneās full name and address or she wouldnāt have allowed you to join the list. That woman had control issues. I think it was best she stepped away from the board. Lol really? She was going to ban liberals from the card list? Very Christian.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 18:43:21 GMT
Ok I can't understand why a thread is started directed specifically to someone who is no longer here. If she deleted her account, is she still lurking? Because unless she is, how exactly is she going to see that she will be missed? If she emailed the card swappers, can't you just email her and tell her you will miss her? This obviously has nothing to do with trying to send a message to leowife. It always personally bugs me when women attach themselves to their husband's career like it is their career too (decades of dealing with military wives wearing their husband's rank) so I admittedly always saw her as someone without her own life. Reading how she met him in highschool and has basically been his wife since then and not having her own thing, I have a bit more understanding of why her world view seems so limited. Anyway, I won't really miss her but she did provide some opportunity for confronting these old time views of life she liked to espouse, kind of like a 1950s wife wating for her man to come home for dinner in heels and pearls. That's just how I see it. But starting a thread for someone who left? Wtf is up with that? Seriously. Someone up thread mentioned that we always do this. Not really. Most of the time the threads are have you heard from xyz because they are taking a break. But the only time peas mention a deleted account is on the thread where they notice the delete. This and the other threads were started to start crap. Like I said, mnm needs to turn that pitch fork around and proudly be it because she didn't start this thread out of concern. Why when we all know LEOWIFE is gone.
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Post by Merge on Oct 28, 2020 18:43:21 GMT
Youāre my favorite now.
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Post by birukitty on Oct 28, 2020 19:01:12 GMT
Ok I can't understand why a thread is started directed specifically to someone who is no longer here. If she deleted her account, is she still lurking? Because unless she is, how exactly is she going to see that she will be missed? If she emailed the card swappers, can't you just email her and tell her you will miss her? This obviously has nothing to do with trying to send a message to leowife. It always personally bugs me when women attach themselves to their husband's career like it is their career too (decades of dealing with military wives wearing their husband's rank) so I admittedly always saw her as someone without her own life. Reading how she met him in highschool and has basically been his wife since then and not having her own thing, I have a bit more understanding of why her world view seems so limited. Anyway, I won't really miss her but she did provide some opportunity for confronting these old time views of life she liked to espouse, kind of like a 1950s wife wating for her man to come home for dinner in heels and pearls. That's just how I see it. But starting a thread for someone who left? Wtf is up with that? Oh my word. Thank you for posting that. I 100% agree. in addition, before everyone tries to canonize Leowife as this saint of a woman - need I remind you that she tried to politicize the Christmas card list. The Christmas card list! She explicitly put in the original Christmas card list post that she was going to check political affiliations and she was going to BAN those that she didnāt agree with. Plus she wanted everyoneās full name and address or she wouldnāt have allowed you to join the list. That woman had control issues. I think it was best she stepped away from the board. Restless Spirit-your second paragraph is completely untrue. I have been a part of the original Christmas Card List (not the new version) for the past 5-6 years including this year. I am also a Democrat and have been since I turned 18. Leowife did not ban anyone from the CCL (Christmas card list) due to political affiliations. In fact in her last email regarding the swap she asked us to keep politics out of the swap-that the election would have just happened and tensions would be high, but the swap was not the place for politics. It saddens me greatly that we can't have discussions on this board when we do disagree with someone for whatever reason, on whatever subject we can't treat each other with respect and agree to disagree. It's what grownups should do. Not behave like childish brats that resort to name calling because one person doesn't agree with your stance on whatever issue. Not saying all Peas do this, but some do and that is what I believe drove Leowife away. She did the honorable thing-she waited until the CCL was completely finished and ready to go before she left. I wish her well and I'm sad she left. As I said I am a Democrat, my father (who I love very much and who I am very close to) is a life long Republican and yet we talk politics quite frequently, but because we respect each other we leave the discussion by agreeing to disagree. Same with religion. In my family I am Catholic, DH is Baptist, DS is an Atheist, my father and sister are Lutherans and my mother is Russian Orthodox. You should hear our conversations regarding religion around the dinner table when all of us are together. It's funny, it's thought provoking, but it's always respectful. I wouldn't want a forum with everyone exactly the same agreeing on every subject. How boring would that be? With all of our different backgrounds, beliefs, etc. we can learn so much from each other if we just remember to treat each other with respect. Racism of course should always be called out. In every instance. I however don't remember any of the Leowife comments I read (and I don't read all of the posts everyday) to be racist.
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Post by chlerbie on Oct 28, 2020 19:18:12 GMT
I get SO annoyed by the damn pitchfork photo. Please at least trim it a bit before you use it. Ugh. Hate it. And on another note, my DH is in a band called Pitchfork.
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Post by MizIndependent on Oct 28, 2020 19:24:00 GMT
I get SO annoyed by the damn pitchfork photo. Please at least trim it a bit before you use it. Ugh. Hate it. And on another note, my DH is in a band called Pitchfork. Would this one be any better?
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Post by hop2 on Oct 28, 2020 19:29:51 GMT
All I see with that picture is Jose Jalapeno on a stick. LOL You know I have been wondering why Oh why the āpeaā had a hat & mustache It didnāt look quite right to me
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 19:30:15 GMT
I get SO annoyed by the damn pitchfork photo. Please at least trim it a bit before you use it. Ugh. Hate it. And on another note, my DH is in a band called Pitchfork. Would this one be any better?
Needs to be more rabid.
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Post by hop2 on Oct 28, 2020 19:38:33 GMT
I get SO annoyed by the damn pitchfork photo. Please at least trim it a bit before you use it. Ugh. Hate it.Ā And on another note, my DH is in a band called Pitchfork. Would this one be any better?Ā
Much - gives the whole town of pitchfork peas for better effect š
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Post by Merge on Oct 28, 2020 19:44:44 GMT
All I see with that picture is Jose Jalapeno on a stick. LOL You know I have been wondering why Oh why the āpeaā had a hat & mustache It didnāt look quite right to me I know it looks like a jalapeƱo but it came up under a google search for pea with a pitchfork. And it has little bumps like a peapod. Also, I thought it would never again be seen after that thread, so I didnāt put much effort in. MizIndependentās version is much better.
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Post by pancakes on Oct 28, 2020 19:55:56 GMT
Oh my word. Ā Thank you for posting that. I 100% agree.Ā in addition, before everyone tries to canonize Leowife as this saint of a woman - need I remind you that she tried to politicize the Christmas card list. The Christmas card list! She explicitly put in the original Christmas card list post that she was going to check political affiliations and she was going to BAN those that she didnāt agree with. Plus she wanted everyoneās full name and address or she wouldnāt have allowed you to join the list. That woman had control issues. I think it was best she stepped away from the board. Ā Ā Restless Spirit-your second paragraph is completely untrue. I have been a part of the original Christmas Card List (not the new version) for the past 5-6 years including this year. I am also a Democrat and have been since I turned 18. Leowife did not ban anyone from the CCL (Christmas card list) due to political affiliations. In fact in her last email regarding the swap she asked us to keep politics out of the swap-that the election would have just happened and tensions would be high, but the swap was not the place for politics.Ā It saddens me greatly that we can't have discussions on this boardĀ when we do disagree with someone for whatever reason, on whatever subject we can't treat each other with respect and agree to disagree. It's what grownups should do. Not behave like childish brats that resort to name calling because one person doesn't agree with your stance on whatever issue. Not saying all Peas do this, but some do and that is what I believe drove Leowife away. She did the honorable thing-she waited until the CCL was completely finished and ready to go before she left. I wish her well and I'm sad she left.Ā As I said I am a Democrat, my father (who I love very much and who I am very close to) is a life long Republican and yet we talk politics quite frequently, but because we respect each other we leave the discussion by agreeing to disagree. Same with religion. In my family I am Catholic, DH is Baptist, DS is an Atheist, my father and sister are Lutherans and my mother is Russian Orthodox. You should hear our conversations regarding religion around the dinner table when all of us are together. It's funny, it's thought provoking, but it's always respectful.Ā I wouldn't want a forum with everyone exactly the same agreeing on every subject. How boring would that be? With all of our different backgrounds, beliefs, etc. we can learn so much from each other if we just remember to treat each other with respect.Ā Racism of course should always be called out. In every instance. I however don't remember any of the Leowife comments I read (and I don't read all of the posts everyday) to be racist. I think the biggest issue for a lot of people was that she frequently would ask for prayers and well wishes for her and her husband but would not and could not even empathize with those who were victims of police brutality. If she had said, I am scared for my husband, but I understand why people are rioting, that would be a totally different story. Or even if she said she supported change in the police system because there is police brutality going on ā and here are some ways my husbandās department is trying to do that...that would be a TOTALLY different story. However, all she kept saying was pray for him and my husbandās unit is so great with zero acknowledgement of what others might be going through. I donāt mean to speak for other Peas but I really think that was one of the biggest issues ā that she would take and not give, that she would ask for pats on the back but not empathize or acknowledge...not that she was a conservative or supported her police officer husband.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 20:06:43 GMT
Pitchfork peas = the new Hoff
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Post by birukitty on Oct 28, 2020 20:11:51 GMT
Restless Spirit-your second paragraph is completely untrue. I have been a part of the original Christmas Card List (not the new version) for the past 5-6 years including this year. I am also a Democrat and have been since I turned 18. Leowife did not ban anyone from the CCL (Christmas card list) due to political affiliations. In fact in her last email regarding the swap she asked us to keep politics out of the swap-that the election would have just happened and tensions would be high, but the swap was not the place for politics. It saddens me greatly that we can't have discussions on this board when we do disagree with someone for whatever reason, on whatever subject we can't treat each other with respect and agree to disagree. It's what grownups should do. Not behave like childish brats that resort to name calling because one person doesn't agree with your stance on whatever issue. Not saying all Peas do this, but some do and that is what I believe drove Leowife away. She did the honorable thing-she waited until the CCL was completely finished and ready to go before she left. I wish her well and I'm sad she left. As I said I am a Democrat, my father (who I love very much and who I am very close to) is a life long Republican and yet we talk politics quite frequently, but because we respect each other we leave the discussion by agreeing to disagree. Same with religion. In my family I am Catholic, DH is Baptist, DS is an Atheist, my father and sister are Lutherans and my mother is Russian Orthodox. You should hear our conversations regarding religion around the dinner table when all of us are together. It's funny, it's thought provoking, but it's always respectful. I wouldn't want a forum with everyone exactly the same agreeing on every subject. How boring would that be? With all of our different backgrounds, beliefs, etc. we can learn so much from each other if we just remember to treat each other with respect. Racism of course should always be called out. In every instance. I however don't remember any of the Leowife comments I read (and I don't read all of the posts everyday) to be racist. I think the biggest issue for a lot of people was that she frequently would ask for prayers and well wishes for her and her husband but would not and could not even empathize with those who were victims of police brutality. If she had said, I am scared for my husband, but I understand why people are rioting, that would be a totally different story. Or even if she said she supported change in the police system because there is police brutality going on ā and here are some ways my husbandās department is trying to do that...that would be a TOTALLY different story. However, all she kept saying was pray for him and my husbandās unit is so great with zero acknowledgement of what others might be going through. I donāt mean to speak for other Peas but I really think that was one of the biggest issues ā that she would take and not give, that she would ask for pats on the back but not empathize or acknowledge...not that she was a conservative or supported her police officer husband. I get that-truly I do and I see your side of this completely. Nevertheless, it all comes down to respect. Respect for other's opinions even though they may be the opposite of yours. Maybe she is at a place in her life where she is unable to see the other side that so many Peas see. Maybe she would feel unfaithful to her husband if she stepped with even one foot in that side. We don't know because we aren't her. We aren't living her life. What happened is that instead of treating her with respect even though our opinions were the opposite, some Peas acted like bratty children and called her horrific names. That is incredibly rude and hurtful. It breaks down discussions instead of letting discussions continue so we can all learn from each other.
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Post by MizIndependent on Oct 28, 2020 20:13:43 GMT
Pitchfork peas = the new Hoff BLASPHEMY! Nothing can replace The Hoff!! šš
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Post by peasapie on Oct 28, 2020 20:20:49 GMT
Iām sure itās upsetting when someone you like leaves the board. Maybe those who miss her can make a little Facebook group to stay in touch. Itās probably not a great idea to start a discussion like this here, though, since it will just cause arguing. (Unless thatās what you wanted.)
I think this president, as well as the media on both sides, has caused a terrible polarization amongst all of us ā and I donāt think it will improve after the election. Conversations about politics are not for the thin skinned, and they have consequences.
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Post by Laurie on Oct 28, 2020 20:23:44 GMT
Restless Spirit-your second paragraph is completely untrue. I have been a part of the original Christmas Card List (not the new version) for the past 5-6 years including this year. I am also a Democrat and have been since I turned 18. Leowife did not ban anyone from the CCL (Christmas card list) due to political affiliations. In fact in her last email regarding the swap she asked us to keep politics out of the swap-that the election would have just happened and tensions would be high, but the swap was not the place for politics. It saddens me greatly that we can't have discussions on this board when we do disagree with someone for whatever reason, on whatever subject we can't treat each other with respect and agree to disagree. It's what grownups should do. Not behave like childish brats that resort to name calling because one person doesn't agree with your stance on whatever issue. Not saying all Peas do this, but some do and that is what I believe drove Leowife away. She did the honorable thing-she waited until the CCL was completely finished and ready to go before she left. I wish her well and I'm sad she left. As I said I am a Democrat, my father (who I love very much and who I am very close to) is a life long Republican and yet we talk politics quite frequently, but because we respect each other we leave the discussion by agreeing to disagree. Same with religion. In my family I am Catholic, DH is Baptist, DS is an Atheist, my father and sister are Lutherans and my mother is Russian Orthodox. You should hear our conversations regarding religion around the dinner table when all of us are together. It's funny, it's thought provoking, but it's always respectful. I wouldn't want a forum with everyone exactly the same agreeing on every subject. How boring would that be? With all of our different backgrounds, beliefs, etc. we can learn so much from each other if we just remember to treat each other with respect. Racism of course should always be called out. In every instance. I however don't remember any of the Leowife comments I read (and I don't read all of the posts everyday) to be racist. I think the biggest issue for a lot of people was that she frequently would ask for prayers and well wishes for her and her husband but would not and could not even empathize with those who were victims of police brutality. If she had said, I am scared for my husband, but I understand why people are rioting, that would be a totally different story. Or even if she said she supported change in the police system because there is police brutality going on ā and here are some ways my husbandās department is trying to do that...that would be a TOTALLY different story. However, all she kept saying was pray for him and my husbandās unit is so great with zero acknowledgement of what others might be going through. I donāt mean to speak for other Peas but I really think that was one of the biggest issues ā that she would take and not give, that she would ask for pats on the back but not empathize or acknowledge...not that she was a conservative or supported her police officer husband. FTR I will state that I do not know her full post history. So this is me just hypothesizing on the information I am reading in this thread. Could it be that the issues other areas are seeing she does not see in her area? For example in SD we don't have police brutality cases and we don't have high crime though either. So for me reading about rioting and looting after the election just seems unfathomable because we don't experience that here. I also think that sometimes when your fear is so great you tend to not see the other perspectives or other things happening. Every shift her dh works there is that risk of something happening to him. Her fear in that is real. I am sure that clouds what we feel should be logical thoughts. Again, I don't know enough about her posts. If she has posted blatant comments like I hate this race or such and such race is a problem then disregard what I said.
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Post by pancakes on Oct 28, 2020 20:25:35 GMT
I think the biggest issue for a lot of people was that she frequently would ask for prayers and well wishes for her and her husband but would not and could not even empathize with those who were victims of police brutality. If she had said, I am scared for my husband, but I understand why people are rioting, that would be a totally different story. Or even if she said she supported change in the police system because there is police brutality going on ā and here are some ways my husbandās department is trying to do that...that would be a TOTALLY different story. However, all she kept saying was pray for him and my husbandās unit is so great with zero acknowledgement of what others might be going through. I donāt mean to speak for other Peas but I really think that was one of the biggest issues ā that she would take and not give, that she would ask for pats on the back but not empathize or acknowledge...not that she was a conservative or supported her police officer husband. Ā Ā Ā I get that-truly I do and I see your side of this completely. Nevertheless, it all comes down to respect. Respect for other's opinions even though they may be the opposite of yours. Maybe she is at a place in her life where she is unable to see the other side that so many Peas see. Maybe she would feel unfaithful to her husband if she stepped with even one foot in that side. We don't know because we aren't her. We aren't living her life.Ā What happened is that instead of treating her with respect even though our opinions were the opposite, some Peas acted like bratty children and called her horrific names. That is incredibly rude and hurtful. It breaks down discussions instead of letting discussions continue so we can all learn from each other.Ā I donāt disagree with you on the name calling! Although I think your position about where she is in her life is totally valid and realistic, I personally feel it is disrespectful when someone doesnāt try to even understand someone elseās position, especially when it comes down to a human rights issue. Anyway, it looks like us two are on the same page, ha.
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Post by elaine on Oct 28, 2020 20:27:31 GMT
I think the biggest issue for a lot of people was that she frequently would ask for prayers and well wishes for her and her husband but would not and could not even empathize with those who were victims of police brutality. If she had said, I am scared for my husband, but I understand why people are rioting, that would be a totally different story. Or even if she said she supported change in the police system because there is police brutality going on ā and here are some ways my husbandās department is trying to do that...that would be a TOTALLY different story. However, all she kept saying was pray for him and my husbandās unit is so great with zero acknowledgement of what others might be going through. I donāt mean to speak for other Peas but I really think that was one of the biggest issues ā that she would take and not give, that she would ask for pats on the back but not empathize or acknowledge...not that she was a conservative or supported her police officer husband. I get that-truly I do and I see your side of this completely. Nevertheless, it all comes down to respect. Respect for other's opinions even though they may be the opposite of yours. Maybe she is at a place in her life where she is unable to see the other side that so many Peas see. Maybe she would feel unfaithful to her husband if she stepped with even one foot in that side. We don't know because we aren't her. We aren't living her life. What happened is that instead of treating her with respect even though our opinions were the opposite, some Peas acted like bratty children and called her horrific names. That is incredibly rude and hurtful. It breaks down discussions instead of letting discussions continue so we can all learn from each other. I hear what you are saying and would respectfully ask you to view the fact that she showed the same disrespect for peas of color and other peas who participated in protests against police brutality. It certainly is/was a 2-way street. Her comments were equally hurtful to a number of people here, and even more so when she refused to entertain any evidence to the contrary of her claims about protestors. Not everyone, contrary to her claims, that participated in BLM protests was violent, a thug, did something illegal, or did anything other than exercised their own first amendment rights. In fact the overwhelming majority did none of what she claimed and yet anyone who challenged her on that is now portrayed as āthe bad guyā because it apparently is okay to publicly slam huge swaths of people if you choose to then leave this board when that doesnāt go unchallenged. Iām sorry that she felt the need to leave. Truly. And equally sorry that she never responded to any of my posts providing her with multiple links to evidence that contradicted her wildly false claims about BLM and BLM protestors.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 28, 2020 20:30:46 GMT
I get SO annoyed by the damn pitchfork photo. Please at least trim it a bit before you use it. Ugh. Hate it. And on another note, my DH is in a band called Pitchfork. Would this one be any better?
Love it!!! š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 20:31:09 GMT
Mary, Mary, Mary. What a petulant little child you are.
There, there, it will be okay.
Maybe you can follow her? You don't seem very happy here.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 28, 2020 20:32:55 GMT
Pitchfork peas = the new Hoff BLASPHEMY! Nothing can replace The Hoff!! šš Or a good Jello mold!!
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Post by Laurie on Oct 28, 2020 20:42:07 GMT
Pitchfork peas = the new Hoff BLASPHEMY! Nothing can replace The Hoff!! šš Disagree. Hoff with a pitchfork! I'm sure a talented pea can photoshop out the Baywatch rescue board and replace with a pitchfork.
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Post by birukitty on Oct 28, 2020 20:52:30 GMT
I get that-truly I do and I see your side of this completely. Nevertheless, it all comes down to respect. Respect for other's opinions even though they may be the opposite of yours. Maybe she is at a place in her life where she is unable to see the other side that so many Peas see. Maybe she would feel unfaithful to her husband if she stepped with even one foot in that side. We don't know because we aren't her. We aren't living her life. What happened is that instead of treating her with respect even though our opinions were the opposite, some Peas acted like bratty children and called her horrific names. That is incredibly rude and hurtful. It breaks down discussions instead of letting discussions continue so we can all learn from each other. I hear what you are saying and would respectfully ask you to view the fact that she showed the same disrespect for peas of color and other peas who participated in protests against police brutality. It certainly is/was a 2-way street. Her comments were equally hurtful to a number of people here, and even more so when she refused to entertain any evidence to the contrary of her claims about protestors. Not everyone, contrary to her claims, that participated in BLM protests was violent, a thug, did something illegal, or did anything other than exercised their own first amendment rights. In fact the overwhelming majority did none of what she claimed and yet anyone who challenged her on that is now portrayed as āthe bad guyā because it apparently is okay to publicly slam huge swaths of people if you choose to then leave this board when that doesnāt go unchallenged. Iām sorry that she felt the need to leave. Truly. And equally sorry that she never responded to any of my posts providing her with multiple links to evidence that contradicted her wildly false claims about BLM and BLM protestors. I also hear what you are saying. I never read any comments from her that showed disrespect to Peas of color or Peas who participated in protests against police brutality. But as I said I don't and can't read every single post. Her posts and comments are hers alone. Her opinions and stances on political issues are also hers alone. We live in a country where we have the freedom to express ourselves. She may have used terms like "the bad guy" but I don't believe she singled a Pea out personally and called that Pea a very hurtful, disgusting name. Did she do that? Everyone has a right to their own opinions and their own stances on the issues. Racism should never be tolerated. Yes, it is a two way street. Yes I get what you are saying. No I don't believe everyone that participated in the BLM protests was a violent thug who did something illegal. Not at all. In fact the opposite. But that's my stance. She had a right to her stance on issues and her opinions. By treating each other with respect we can keep discussions open and learn from each other even if our views differ greatly. We don't know why she felt that way she did about these issues. But it was her opinion and she had a right to it.
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JustTricia
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 2,850
Location: Indianapolis
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Post by JustTricia on Oct 28, 2020 20:56:09 GMT
I get that-truly I do and I see your side of this completely. Nevertheless, it all comes down to respect. Respect for other's opinions even though they may be the opposite of yours. Maybe she is at a place in her life where she is unable to see the other side that so many Peas see. Maybe she would feel unfaithful to her husband if she stepped with even one foot in that side. We don't know because we aren't her. We aren't living her life. What happened is that instead of treating her with respect even though our opinions were the opposite, some Peas acted like bratty children and called her horrific names. That is incredibly rude and hurtful. It breaks down discussions instead of letting discussions continue so we can all learn from each other. I hear what you are saying and would respectfully ask you to view the fact that she showed the same disrespect for peas of color and other peas who participated in protests against police brutality. It certainly is/was a 2-way street. Her comments were equally hurtful to a number of people here, and even more so when she refused to entertain any evidence to the contrary of her claims about protestors. Not everyone, contrary to her claims, that participated in BLM protests was violent, a thug, did something illegal, or did anything other than exercised their own first amendment rights. In fact the overwhelming majority did none of what she claimed and yet anyone who challenged her on that is now portrayed as āthe bad guyā because it apparently is okay to publicly slam huge swaths of people if you choose to then leave this board when that doesnāt go unchallenged. Iām sorry that she felt the need to leave. Truly. And equally sorry that she never responded to any of my posts providing her with multiple links to evidence that contradicted her wildly false claims about BLM and BLM protestors. I agree with what is said here. I participated in one thread and overwhelmingly people were posting that while the vast majority of people protesting were doing so peacefully a small number of people were doing the rioting. Everyone acknowledged that; everyone said the rioters were wrong. We just asked her to agree with the same statement ~ the vast majority of police officers do their jobs almost perfectly yet there are still some that do not. Not only would she agree that a small number of police are not good people, she doubled down and said the vast majority of protesters were criminals. And she gave stats, not links but just in her own typing. Stats that multiple people disputed with their own links to reputable research that either she ignored or said were flat out wrong. No one on that particular thread was trying to get her to say all cops suck. We were asked her to confirm some did. Her husband did the training so thereās no possible way anyone could ever go against what he trained them to do, nationwide. I read the thread referenced either in this thread or the other Leowife left thread that she started asking about relationship status. Besides her initial post her only other post said: āLADIES, thank you. The stories, the loss, the long marriages the second time, the memories.... I do belive love helps shapes ideas and beliefs. We never really know where or when that will come into play.ā I just found that odd. While I agree love shapes us, from her history it felt to me that she was acquiring data on the posters and comparing their relationship status to their political posts. I could be totally off base and would probably never have thought that about a different poster but, as it was said earlier in this thread, what you post follows you around on the board, and it was my first thought about her.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Oct 28, 2020 20:59:23 GMT
Ok I can't understand why a thread is started directed specifically to someone who is no longer here. If she deleted her account, is she still lurking? Because unless she is, how exactly is she going to see that she will be missed? If she emailed the card swappers, can't you just email her and tell her you will miss her? This obviously has nothing to do with trying to send a message to leowife. It always personally bugs me when women attach themselves to their husband's career like it is their career too (decades of dealing with military wives wearing their husband's rank) so I admittedly always saw her as someone without her own life. Reading how she met him in highschool and has basically been his wife since then and not having her own thing, I have a bit more understanding of why her world view seems so limited. Anyway, I won't really miss her but she did provide some opportunity for confronting these old time views of life she liked to espouse, kind of like a 1950s wife wating for her man to come home for dinner in heels and pearls. That's just how I see it. But starting a thread for someone who left? Wtf is up with that? Oh my word. Thank you for posting that. I 100% agree. in addition, before everyone tries to canonize Leowife as this saint of a woman - need I remind you that she tried to politicize the Christmas card list. The Christmas card list! Sh e explicitly put in the original Christmas card list post that she was going to check political affiliations and she was going to BAN those that she didnāt agree with. Plus she wanted everyoneās full name and address or she wouldnāt have allowed you to join the list. That woman had control issues. I think it was best she stepped away from the board. The highlighted part is simply not true. I could not be further away from her politically, socially, in respect to LEO, but she did want people to use their full real names.. other than that.. it was just a card swap. I wish you would either.. prove what you are said or take it back.
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Nov 24, 2024 10:46:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 21:34:11 GMT
I hear what you are saying and would respectfully ask you to view the fact that she showed the same disrespect for peas of color and other peas who participated in protests against police brutality.Ā It certainly is/was a 2-way street. Her comments were equally hurtful to a number of people here, and even more so when she refused to entertain any evidence to the contrary of her claims about protestors.Ā Not everyone, contrary to her claims, that participated in BLM protests was violent, a thug, did something illegal, or did anything other than exercised their own first amendment rights. Ā In fact the overwhelming majority did none of what she claimed and yet anyone who challenged her on that is now portrayed as āthe bad guyā because it apparently is okay to publicly slam huge swaths of people if you choose to then leave this board when that doesnāt go unchallenged.Ā Iām sorry that she felt the need to leave. Truly. And equally sorry that she never responded to any of my posts providing her with multiple links to evidence that contradicted her wildly false claims about BLM and BLM protestors.Ā I agree with what is said here. I participated in one thread and overwhelmingly people were posting that while the vast majority of people protesting were doing so peacefully a small number of people were doing the rioting. Everyone acknowledged that; everyone said the rioters were wrong. We just asked her to agree with the same statement ~ the vast majority of police officers do their jobs almost perfectly yet there are still some that do not. Not only would she agree that a small number of police are not good people, she doubled down and said the vast majority of protesters were criminals. And she gave stats, not links but just in her own typing. Stats that multiple people disputed with their own links to reputable research that either she ignored or said were flat out wrong. No one on that particular thread was trying to get her to say all cops suck. We were asked her to confirm some did. Her husband did the training so thereās no possible way anyone could ever go against what he trained them to do, nationwide. I read the thread referenced either in this thread or the other Leowife left thread that she started asking about relationship status. Besides her initial post her only other post said: āLADIES, thank you. The stories, the loss, the long marriages the second time, the memories.... I do belive love helps shapes ideas and beliefs. We never really know where or when that will come into play.ā I just found that odd. While I agree love shapes us, from her history it felt to me that she was acquiring data on the posters and comparing their relationship status to their political posts. I could be totally off base and would probably never have thought that about a different poster but, as it was said earlier in this thread, what you post follows you around on the board, and it was my first thought about her. I have felt this way for awhile. I honestly thought she was collecting data. Am I sure she was? No. But I just got a feeling that she was...
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MizIndependent
Drama Llama
Quit your bullpoop.
Posts: 5,836
Jun 25, 2014 19:43:16 GMT
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Post by MizIndependent on Oct 28, 2020 21:39:00 GMT
BLASPHEMY! Nothing can replace The Hoff!! šš Disagree. Hoff with a pitchfork! I'm sure a talented pea can photoshop out the Baywatch rescue board and replace with a pitchfork. Wish granted!
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