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Post by Laurie on Oct 29, 2020 0:13:55 GMT
FTR I will state that I do not know her full post history. So this is me just hypothesizing on the information I am reading in this thread. Could it be that the issues other areas are seeing she does not see in her area? For example in SD we don't have police brutality cases and we don't have high crime though either. So for me reading about rioting and looting after the election just seems unfathomable because we don't experience that here. I also think that sometimes when your fear is so great you tend to not see the other perspectives or other things happening. Every shift her dh works there is that risk of something happening to him. Her fear in that is real. I am sure that clouds what we feel should be logical thoughts. Again, I don't know enough about her posts. If she has posted blatant comments like I hate this race or such and such race is a problem then disregard what I said. So what about the POC who are fearful every time they have they have to have an encounter with police? What about LGBTQ+ people who have to worry about their safety if they hold their partners hands in public. Do those people not count? We (as a society)expect marginalized populations to go about their every day lives and participate in systems that penalize them and often cost them their lives. And then they are questioned and mocked and met with violence for trying to peacefully bring attention to their safety and concerns. Why is her fear more important than the fear of these people. She was incapable of considering anything outside of her narrow view of police and policing and frequently attacked those who believed differently. She refused to acknowledge that there is even a problem. Why should her fear be prioritized. I don’t think her fear is more important. I am just trying to make sense of where she is coming from or understand her frame of mind. Again, I don’t read enough of her posts to know what comments she made. |
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Post by cindyupnorth on Oct 29, 2020 0:18:22 GMT
Laurie I think I remember where you live, as it's down by my hometown. I think there is plenty of police brutality and racism in SD, esp against the native American population. I think maybe because SD hasn't made national newsa bout it lately doesn't mean it's not going on.
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Post by Laurie on Oct 29, 2020 0:37:14 GMT
Laurie I think I remember where you live, as it's down by my hometown. I think there is plenty of police brutality and racism in SD, esp against the native American population. I think maybe because SD hasn't made national newsa bout it lately doesn't mean it's not going on. I agree that the Native American population faces racism. Most definitely. My frame of reference was the biggest city we have with Sioux Falls and comparing it to other big cities, that we don’t see police brutality and likewise I don’t feel citizens treat the police poorly. However, I do recognize that I can’t speak if minorities feel as they are being treated differently from the cops. I know the news stations have been doing a lot of segments about the issue and the interviews have been positive between all parties. Rather that is a fair, accurate representation of all I can’t say or speculate. |
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Post by prapea on Oct 29, 2020 2:48:36 GMT
I was summoned. Black Lives Matter and fuck you if you don't like it! Cheers!  Marry me! LOL And yes, Black Lives Matter. |
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Post by PNWMom on Oct 29, 2020 3:10:53 GMT
I think the biggest issue for a lot of people was that she frequently would ask for prayers and well wishes for her and her husband but would not and could not even empathize with those who were victims of police brutality. If she had said, I am scared for my husband, but I understand why people are rioting, that would be a totally different story. Or even if she said she supported change in the police system because there is police brutality going on — and here are some ways my husband’s department is trying to do that...that would be a TOTALLY different story. However, all she kept saying was pray for him and my husband’s unit is so great with zero acknowledgement of what others might be going through. I don’t mean to speak for other Peas but I really think that was one of the biggest issues — that she would take and not give, that she would ask for pats on the back but not empathize or acknowledge...not that she was a conservative or supported her police officer husband. FTR I will state that I do not know her full post history. So this is me just hypothesizing on the information I am reading in this thread. Could it be that the issues other areas are seeing she does not see in her area? For example in SD we don't have police brutality cases and we don't have high crime though either. So for me reading about rioting and looting after the election just seems unfathomable because we don't experience that here. I also think that sometimes when your fear is so great you tend to not see the other perspectives or other things happening. Every shift her dh works there is that risk of something happening to him. Her fear in that is real. I am sure that clouds what we feel should be logical thoughts. Again, I don't know enough about her posts. If she has posted blatant comments like I hate this race or such and such race is a problem then disregard what I said. Sigh...... I cannot even tell you how much it irritates me that you think there are no instances of police brutality in South Dakota. Nothing specifically personally meant against you, but what an incredible example of white privilege that is. Well meaning white ladies who remain blissfully unaware of the things going on right around them. |
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Post by Laurie on Oct 29, 2020 3:25:01 GMT
FTR I will state that I do not know her full post history. So this is me just hypothesizing on the information I am reading in this thread. Could it be that the issues other areas are seeing she does not see in her area? For example in SD we don't have police brutality cases and we don't have high crime though either. So for me reading about rioting and looting after the election just seems unfathomable because we don't experience that here. I also think that sometimes when your fear is so great you tend to not see the other perspectives or other things happening. Every shift her dh works there is that risk of something happening to him. Her fear in that is real. I am sure that clouds what we feel should be logical thoughts. Again, I don't know enough about her posts. If she has posted blatant comments like I hate this race or such and such race is a problem then disregard what I said. Sigh...... I cannot even tell you how much it irritates me that you think there are no instances of police brutality in South Dakota. Nothing specifically personally meant against you, but what an incredible example of white privilege that is. Well meaning white ladies who remain blissfully unaware of the things going on right around them. I have said in another post that I am not saying racism does not exist here. But it is not common here that people are shot by police. However, we don’t have a lot of violent crimes either. I am not blissfully unaware either. One of the first things I said after George Floyd’s death is that I’m not surprised. Minneapolis police department has a history of police officers being overly aggressive. The city never chose to address it and Floyd sadly was the one that had to pay for them looking away all these years. I am also not confident that Minneapolis police department will be better or reformed 5 years from now. History has shown it won’t but maybe now that the nation is watching them it will be different. |
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Post by hop2 on Oct 29, 2020 3:53:24 GMT
Marry me! LOL And yes, Black Lives Matter. OMG it’s almost midnight here and my tired eyes & tired mind read Black Olives Matter I had to go back and read it again. I better go to sleep |
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Post by prapea on Oct 29, 2020 3:59:03 GMT
Marry me! LOL And yes, Black Lives Matter. OMG it’s almost midnight here and my tired eyes & tired mind read Black Olives Matter I had to go back and read it again. I better go to sleep Lolol. Blame the olive jello that sockmonkey posted...lol. Hope you do not have olive dreams...lol |
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Post by Gennifer on Oct 29, 2020 5:03:17 GMT
I’m still wondering how you introduce politics into Christmas cards, but I’m just going to have to live with the mystery. Is that a challenge? 🤔😜 |
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Post by sassyangel on Oct 29, 2020 5:41:34 GMT
OMG it’s almost midnight here and my tired eyes & tired mind read Black Olives Matter I had to go back and read it again. I better go to sleep Lolol. Blame the olive jello that sockmonkey posted...lol. Hope you do not have olive dreams...lol I thought they were avocadoes at first. 😂 I had to zoom in to see they were olives. Do not recommend the zoom. |
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Post by lesserknownpea on Oct 29, 2020 5:58:51 GMT
Wait a second. Someone had a list of all you peas full names and home addresses(from several years) and she just up and left? Lololol. Very nice...lolol. That was my first thought |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2020 9:29:52 GMT
Wait a second. Someone had a list of all you peas full names and home addresses(from several years) and she just up and left? Lololol. Very nice...lolol. Not only that, she now also, has a full history of many peas' relationship and marriage status too, that she gathered only a couple of days before she left . I don't think I'm being paranoid in wondering why or what was interesting in knowing that. I can understand someone posting individually that they are celebrating xy number of years of marriage and celebrating that achievement with us but starting a thread to gather all the info together was. to me. a bit strange. |
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Post by gar on Oct 29, 2020 11:57:36 GMT
Wait a second. Someone had a list of all you peas full names and home addresses(from several years) and she just up and left? Lololol. Very nice...lolol. Not only that, she now also, has a full history of many peas' relationship and marriage status too, that she gathered only a couple of days before she left . I don't think I'm being paranoid in wondering why or what was interesting in knowing that. I can understand someone posting individually that they are celebrating xy number of years of marriage and celebrating that achievement with us but starting a thread to gather all the info together was. to me. a bit strange. Indeed. I've talked about that stuff in general terms before but I did ignore that poll! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2020 12:28:06 GMT
What are people thinking she can do with the info about our relationship status? I feel like I'm missing something...again!
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Post by dawnnikol on Oct 29, 2020 12:37:26 GMT
I’m still wondering how you introduce politics into Christmas cards, but I’m just going to have to live with the mystery. Is that a challenge? 🤔😜 Someone had recommended Zazzle for cards, so I was browsing and there was a MAGA Christmas card. Hard fucking pass, man. |
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Post by sassyangel on Oct 29, 2020 14:22:39 GMT
Someone had recommended Zazzle for cards, so I was browsing and there was a MAGA Christmas card. Hard fucking pass, man. That’s how I felt when I saw the MAGA hat in the Animal Crossing pro design store. It was like seeing a turd in there. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2020 14:25:42 GMT
What are people thinking she can do with the info about our relationship status? I feel like I'm missing something...again! I'm not suggesting that this would be the case with her but this forum is an open forum as far as the internet is concerned. Anyone can read but you need to be a member to post. You'd be surprised what info fraudsters gather that some might think is irrelevant in isolation. Fraudsters are far cleverer than you or me and at times cleverer than the people that investigate them. It's always best to be cautious in what personal info you post whether it's on here or any other social media. |
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Post by wellway on Oct 29, 2020 14:37:05 GMT
What are people thinking she can do with the info about our relationship status? I feel like I'm missing something...again! Some of those will have also shared their real name and address. Add in posting history you could play devils advocate. Remember we have had peas leave because someone forwarded info to cousins and in one case a photographer? I think. Eta, that applies to anyone with the Christmas list. As an add on thought, I'm always surprised how much info,in the way of breadcrumbs, people post here. How many kids, ages, jobs, college attended, degrees and lots lots more. Not a problem if you don't care but hopefully people are conscious of the trail they are leaving. |
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Post by birukitty on Oct 29, 2020 23:15:05 GMT
I also hear what you are saying. I never read any comments from her that showed disrespect to Peas of color or Peas who participated in protests against police brutality. But as I said I don't and can't read every single post. Her posts and comments are hers alone. Her opinions and stances on political issues are also hers alone. We live in a country where we have the freedom to express ourselves. She may have used terms like "the bad guy" but I don't believe she singled a Pea out personally and called that Pea a very hurtful, disgusting name. Did she do that? Everyone has a right to their own opinions and their own stances on the issues. Racism should never be tolerated. Yes, it is a two way street. Yes I get what you are saying. No I don't believe everyone that participated in the BLM protests was a violent thug who did something illegal. Not at all. In fact the opposite. But that's my stance. She had a right to her stance on issues and her opinions. By treating each other with respect we can keep discussions open and learn from each other even if our views differ greatly. We don't know why she felt that way she did about these issues. But it was her opinion and she had a right to it. My point is that she DIDN’T treat those of us (or anyone else) who participated in BLM protests with respect. It doesn’t take addressing someone individually and personally calling them names to disrespect someone and to accuse them of a variety of negative characteristics. That can shut down discussion as completely as name calling. I may be misunderstanding you, but it sounds like you are saying that making false and racist comments should go unchallenged because one has a right to one’s own opinions. Because the underpinnings of her criticisms of BLM protests and protestors was racist in nature. You certainly have a right to that opinion, but it isn’t one that I hold. I would prefer that name calling was left out of discussions, but disrespect is MUCH broader and deeper than superficial name calling. No I am not saying that at all! If you look at my second paragraph I wrote "Racism should never be tolerated". And I mean that with every fiber of my being. In any form. I never read any of her posts that sounded to me like racism but as I said before I didn't read all of her posts-I don't have the time to do that. I stay away from a lot of the political posts because of the stress they involve and stress triggers my migraines. You have a right to your opinion and I have a right to mine. My opinion has been written throughout this post. I'm not going to add any more to it. But I had to come back and clear up what was written above. I do hear what you are saying. If that's what she did then yes I can understand those feelings, certainly I can. Respect does go both ways. I don't respect racists. |
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