|
Post by Laurie on Oct 28, 2020 21:39:50 GMT
Disagree. Hoff with a pitchfork! I'm sure a talented pea can photoshop out the Baywatch rescue board and replace with a pitchfork. Wish granted!
That right there is pea gold!
|
|
|
Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 28, 2020 21:51:03 GMT
Disagree. Hoff with a pitchfork! I'm sure a talented pea can photoshop out the Baywatch rescue board and replace with a pitchfork. Wish granted!
Other hand a jello mold platter!! Lol. Make it a trifecta!!
|
|
|
Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 28, 2020 21:52:01 GMT
I agree with what is said here. I participated in one thread and overwhelmingly people were posting that while the vast majority of people protesting were doing so peacefully a small number of people were doing the rioting. Everyone acknowledged that; everyone said the rioters were wrong. We just asked her to agree with the same statement ~ the vast majority of police officers do their jobs almost perfectly yet there are still some that do not. Not only would she agree that a small number of police are not good people, she doubled down and said the vast majority of protesters were criminals. And she gave stats, not links but just in her own typing. Stats that multiple people disputed with their own links to reputable research that either she ignored or said were flat out wrong. No one on that particular thread was trying to get her to say all cops suck. We were asked her to confirm some did. Her husband did the training so thereâs no possible way anyone could ever go against what he trained them to do, nationwide. I read the thread referenced either in this thread or the other Leowife left thread that she started asking about relationship status. Besides her initial post her only other post said: âLADIES, thank you. The stories, the loss, the long marriages the second time, the memories.... I do belive love helps shapes ideas and beliefs. We never really know where or when that will come into play.â I just found that odd. While I agree love shapes us, from her history it felt to me that she was acquiring data on the posters and comparing their relationship status to their political posts. I could be totally off base and would probably never have thought that about a different poster but, as it was said earlier in this thread, what you post follows you around on the board, and it was my first thought about her. I have felt this way for awhile. I honestly thought she was collecting data. Am I sure she was? No. But I just got a feeling that she was... Collecting data was exactly my first thought when I first read that post.
|
|
MizIndependent
Drama Llama
Quit your bullpoop.
Posts: 5,836
Jun 25, 2014 19:43:16 GMT
|
Post by MizIndependent on Oct 28, 2020 22:01:07 GMT
I have felt this way for awhile. I honestly thought she was collecting data. Am I sure she was? No. But I just got a feeling that she was... Collecting data was exactly my first thought when I first read that post.
|
|
sassyangel
Drama Llama
Posts: 7,456
Jun 26, 2014 23:58:32 GMT
|
Post by sassyangel on Oct 28, 2020 22:07:07 GMT
I hear what you are saying and would respectfully ask you to view the fact that she showed the same disrespect for peas of color and other peas who participated in protests against police brutality. It certainly is/was a 2-way street. Her comments were equally hurtful to a number of people here, and even more so when she refused to entertain any evidence to the contrary of her claims about protestors. Not everyone, contrary to her claims, that participated in BLM protests was violent, a thug, did something illegal, or did anything other than exercised their own first amendment rights. In fact the overwhelming majority did none of what she claimed and yet anyone who challenged her on that is now portrayed as âthe bad guyâ because it apparently is okay to publicly slam huge swaths of people if you choose to then leave this board when that doesnât go unchallenged. Iâm sorry that she felt the need to leave. Truly. And equally sorry that she never responded to any of my posts providing her with multiple links to evidence that contradicted her wildly false claims about BLM and BLM protestors. I also hear what you are saying. I never read any comments from her that showed disrespect to Peas of color or Peas who participated in protests against police brutality. But as I said I don't and can't read every single post. Her posts and comments are hers alone. Her opinions and stances on political issues are also hers alone. We live in a country where we have the freedom to express ourselves. She may have used terms like "the bad guy" but I don't believe she singled a Pea out personally and called that Pea a very hurtful, disgusting name. Did she do that? Everyone has a right to their own opinions and their own stances on the issues. Racism should never be tolerated. Yes, it is a two way street. Yes I get what you are saying. No I don't believe everyone that participated in the BLM protests was a violent thug who did something illegal. Not at all. In fact the opposite. But that's my stance. She had a right to her stance on issues and her opinions. By treating each other with respect we can keep discussions open and learn from each other even if our views differ greatly. We don't know why she felt that way she did about these issues. But it was her opinion and she had a right to it. Hereâs the thing. Racism does not just involve overt and obvious name calling. Itâs insidiously systemic too. I felt like hers was more the systemic variety than the in your face overt stuff. But itâs no less dangerous. Things like using stereotypes, focusing only on white grievances and refusing to even acknowledge systemic racism is a pervasive societal thing.
|
|
sassyangel
Drama Llama
Posts: 7,456
Jun 26, 2014 23:58:32 GMT
|
Post by sassyangel on Oct 28, 2020 22:10:09 GMT
You know I have been wondering why Oh why the âpeaâ had a hat & mustache It didnât look quite right to me I know it looks like a jalapeño but it came up under a google search for pea with a pitchfork. And it has little bumps like a peapod. Also, I thought it would never again be seen after that thread, so I didnât put much effort in. MizIndependentâs version is much better. We definitely canât take you anywhere. You donât even crop your pics properly, before theyâre commandeered for abuse. đ
|
|
sassyangel
Drama Llama
Posts: 7,456
Jun 26, 2014 23:58:32 GMT
|
Post by sassyangel on Oct 28, 2020 22:14:05 GMT
I get SO annoyed by the damn pitchfork photo. Please at least trim it a bit before you use it. Ugh. Hate it. And on another note, my DH is in a band called Pitchfork. Would this one be any better?
Hahaha look at all those angry hostile faces. đđđŒ
|
|
|
Post by peano on Oct 28, 2020 22:23:53 GMT
Oh my word. Thank you for posting that. I 100% agree. in addition, before everyone tries to canonize Leowife as this saint of a woman - need I remind you that she tried to politicize the Christmas card list. The Christmas card list! Sh e explicitly put in the original Christmas card list post that she was going to check political affiliations and she was going to BAN those that she didnât agree with. Plus she wanted everyoneâs full name and address or she wouldnât have allowed you to join the list. That woman had control issues. I think it was best she stepped away from the board. The highlighted part is simply not true. I could not be further away from her politically, socially, in respect to LEO, but she did want people to use their full real names.. other than that.. it was just a card swap. I wish you would either.. prove what you are said or take it back. As the person sort of responsible for the Christmas card swap schism, I can say it is categorically false that leowife said she was going ban those whose politics she disagreed with. She just said to keep politics out of it. Iâm still wondering how you introduce politics into Christmas cards, but Iâm just going to have to live with the mystery.
|
|
|
Post by peano on Oct 28, 2020 22:27:32 GMT
I agree with what is said here. I participated in one thread and overwhelmingly people were posting that while the vast majority of people protesting were doing so peacefully a small number of people were doing the rioting. Everyone acknowledged that; everyone said the rioters were wrong. We just asked her to agree with the same statement ~ the vast majority of police officers do their jobs almost perfectly yet there are still some that do not. Not only would she agree that a small number of police are not good people, she doubled down and said the vast majority of protesters were criminals. And she gave stats, not links but just in her own typing. Stats that multiple people disputed with their own links to reputable research that either she ignored or said were flat out wrong. No one on that particular thread was trying to get her to say all cops suck. We were asked her to confirm some did. Her husband did the training so thereâs no possible way anyone could ever go against what he trained them to do, nationwide. I read the thread referenced either in this thread or the other Leowife left thread that she started asking about relationship status. Besides her initial post her only other post said: âLADIES, thank you. The stories, the loss, the long marriages the second time, the memories.... I do belive love helps shapes ideas and beliefs. We never really know where or when that will come into play.â I just found that odd. While I agree love shapes us, from her history it felt to me that she was acquiring data on the posters and comparing their relationship status to their political posts. I could be totally off base and would probably never have thought that about a different poster but, as it was said earlier in this thread, what you post follows you around on the board, and it was my first thought about her. I have felt this way for awhile. I honestly thought she was collecting data. Am I sure she was? No. But I just got a feeling that she was... Thought I was being paranoid. Like every one of my Spidey senses was blaring. Itâs sort of validating that I felt really uncomfortable handing over my personal data, particularly to this former Pea, who seemed to me to be somewhat controlling.
|
|
ellaknits
Full Member
Posts: 186
Mar 17, 2020 22:21:56 GMT
|
Post by ellaknits on Oct 28, 2020 22:30:38 GMT
I didn't really interact with her, but I noticed the language she used had that dog whistle feel to it - calling police-protestor conflicts riots no matter how it was going down or who was the aggressor, constantly talking about the police like selfless public servants who should be trusted and canonized and unaccountable to the public, that kind of thing. I can't remember specific discussions, so maybe that's not fair and I'm not going to go trawling for examples. It seemed fairly clear to me where she stood and the board has gotten less tolerant of that kind of shenanigan, for which I am personally grateful. I'm not surprised she wasn't loving it and moved on.
Edited for word choice
|
|
|
Post by Merge on Oct 28, 2020 22:33:16 GMT
I know it looks like a jalapeño but it came up under a google search for pea with a pitchfork. And it has little bumps like a peapod. Also, I thought it would never again be seen after that thread, so I didnât put much effort in. MizIndependentâs version is much better. We definitely canât take you anywhere. You donât even crop your pics properly, before theyâre commandeered for abuse. đ Noooo, that wasnât my fault. I posted a normal square pic. She clicked on it, took a screenshot with her phone, and didnât bother to crop off the black bars. This one isnât on me!
|
|
pudgygroundhog
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 4,648
Location: The Grand Canyon
Jun 25, 2014 20:18:39 GMT
|
Post by pudgygroundhog on Oct 28, 2020 22:37:02 GMT
Collecting data was exactly my first thought when I first read that post.
đ Can we put a bird on the pitchfork?
|
|
|
Post by prapea on Oct 28, 2020 22:41:58 GMT
Wait a second. Someone had a list of all you peas full names and home addresses(from several years) and she just up and left?
Lololol. Very nice...lolol.
|
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Nov 24, 2024 10:33:37 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 22:42:33 GMT
đ Can we put a bird on the pitchfork? Being it is almost Thanksgiving, I vote for a turkey
|
|
sassyangel
Drama Llama
Posts: 7,456
Jun 26, 2014 23:58:32 GMT
|
Post by sassyangel on Oct 28, 2020 22:51:12 GMT
We definitely canât take you anywhere. You donât even crop your pics properly, before theyâre commandeered for abuse. đ Noooo, that wasnât my fault. I posted a normal square pic. She clicked on it, took a screenshot with her phone, and didnât bother to crop off the black bars. This one isnât on me! Ohh is that what happened? đ đđđ Well ok, you can sit with us again.
|
|
MizIndependent
Drama Llama
Quit your bullpoop.
Posts: 5,836
Jun 25, 2014 19:43:16 GMT
|
Post by MizIndependent on Oct 28, 2020 22:54:11 GMT
đ Can we put a bird on the pitchfork? Being it is almost Thanksgiving, I vote for a turkey Damn...anything else?
|
|
|
Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 28, 2020 22:55:03 GMT
đ Can we put a bird on the pitchfork? đ
|
|
|
Post by Laurie on Oct 28, 2020 22:55:08 GMT
Being it is almost Thanksgiving, I vote for a turkey Damn...anything else?
This is perfect!
|
|
|
Post by Merge on Oct 28, 2020 22:55:17 GMT
Noooo, that wasnât my fault. I posted a normal square pic. She clicked on it, took a screenshot with her phone, and didnât bother to crop off the black bars. This one isnât on me! Ohh is that what happened? đ đđđ Well ok, you can sit with us again. Thanks man. I hate being left out.
|
|
Dani-Mani
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 3,710
Jun 28, 2014 17:36:35 GMT
|
Post by Dani-Mani on Oct 28, 2020 22:56:04 GMT
Wait a second. Someone had a list of all you peas full names and home addresses(from several years) and she just up and left? Lololol. Very nice...lolol. I was coming to post the exact same thing đ
|
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Nov 24, 2024 10:33:37 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 22:57:43 GMT
Being it is almost Thanksgiving, I vote for a turkey Damn...anything else?
This is freaking awesome!
|
|
TheOtherMeg
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 2,541
Jun 25, 2014 20:58:14 GMT
|
Post by TheOtherMeg on Oct 28, 2020 23:40:54 GMT
It's a good thing someone labeled the pic, cuz I would have wondered why they were (repeatedly) posting a pic of a jalapeño holding a pitchfork.
Now I'm just wondering why they're (repeatedly) posting a pic of a jalapeño-looking pea holding a pitchfork.
|
|
|
Post by elaine on Oct 28, 2020 23:41:59 GMT
I hear what you are saying and would respectfully ask you to view the fact that she showed the same disrespect for peas of color and other peas who participated in protests against police brutality. It certainly is/was a 2-way street. Her comments were equally hurtful to a number of people here, and even more so when she refused to entertain any evidence to the contrary of her claims about protestors. Not everyone, contrary to her claims, that participated in BLM protests was violent, a thug, did something illegal, or did anything other than exercised their own first amendment rights. In fact the overwhelming majority did none of what she claimed and yet anyone who challenged her on that is now portrayed as âthe bad guyâ because it apparently is okay to publicly slam huge swaths of people if you choose to then leave this board when that doesnât go unchallenged. Iâm sorry that she felt the need to leave. Truly. And equally sorry that she never responded to any of my posts providing her with multiple links to evidence that contradicted her wildly false claims about BLM and BLM protestors. I also hear what you are saying. I never read any comments from her that showed disrespect to Peas of color or Peas who participated in protests against police brutality. But as I said I don't and can't read every single post. Her posts and comments are hers alone. Her opinions and stances on political issues are also hers alone. We live in a country where we have the freedom to express ourselves. She may have used terms like "the bad guy" but I don't believe she singled a Pea out personally and called that Pea a very hurtful, disgusting name. Did she do that? Everyone has a right to their own opinions and their own stances on the issues. Racism should never be tolerated. Yes, it is a two way street. Yes I get what you are saying. No I don't believe everyone that participated in the BLM protests was a violent thug who did something illegal. Not at all. In fact the opposite. But that's my stance. She had a right to her stance on issues and her opinions. By treating each other with respect we can keep discussions open and learn from each other even if our views differ greatly. We don't know why she felt that way she did about these issues. But it was her opinion and she had a right to it. My point is that she DIDNâT treat those of us (or anyone else) who participated in BLM protests with respect. It doesnât take addressing someone individually and personally calling them names to disrespect someone and to accuse them of a variety of negative characteristics. That can shut down discussion as completely as name calling. I may be misunderstanding you, but it sounds like you are saying that making false and racist comments should go unchallenged because one has a right to oneâs own opinions. Because the underpinnings of her criticisms of BLM protests and protestors was racist in nature. You certainly have a right to that opinion, but it isnât one that I hold. I would prefer that name calling was left out of discussions, but disrespect is MUCH broader and deeper than superficial name calling.
|
|
TheOtherMeg
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 2,541
Jun 25, 2014 20:58:14 GMT
|
Post by TheOtherMeg on Oct 28, 2020 23:44:12 GMT
I get SO annoyed by the damn pitchfork photo. Please at least trim it a bit before you use it. Ugh. Hate it. And on another note, my DH is in a band called Pitchfork. Would this one be any better?
OMG, I love this! ^5!
|
|
|
Post by SockMonkey on Oct 28, 2020 23:45:59 GMT
I was summoned. Black Lives Matter and fuck you if you don't like it! Cheers!
|
|
|
Post by sabrinae on Oct 28, 2020 23:46:43 GMT
I think the biggest issue for a lot of people was that she frequently would ask for prayers and well wishes for her and her husband but would not and could not even empathize with those who were victims of police brutality. If she had said, I am scared for my husband, but I understand why people are rioting, that would be a totally different story. Or even if she said she supported change in the police system because there is police brutality going on â and here are some ways my husbandâs department is trying to do that...that would be a TOTALLY different story. However, all she kept saying was pray for him and my husbandâs unit is so great with zero acknowledgement of what others might be going through. I donât mean to speak for other Peas but I really think that was one of the biggest issues â that she would take and not give, that she would ask for pats on the back but not empathize or acknowledge...not that she was a conservative or supported her police officer husband. FTR I will state that I do not know her full post history. So this is me just hypothesizing on the information I am reading in this thread. Could it be that the issues other areas are seeing she does not see in her area? For example in SD we don't have police brutality cases and we don't have high crime though either. So for me reading about rioting and looting after the election just seems unfathomable because we don't experience that here. I also think that sometimes when your fear is so great you tend to not see the other perspectives or other things happening. Every shift her dh works there is that risk of something happening to him. Her fear in that is real. I am sure that clouds what we feel should be logical thoughts. Again, I don't know enough about her posts. If she has posted blatant comments like I hate this race or such and such race is a problem then disregard what I said. So what about the POC who are fearful every time they have they have to have an encounter with police? What about LGBTQ+ people who have to worry about their safety if they hold their partners hands in public. Do those people not count? We (as a society)expect marginalized populations to go about their every day lives and participate in systems that penalize them and often cost them their lives. And then they are questioned and mocked and met with violence for trying to peacefully bring attention to their safety and concerns. Why is her fear more important than the fear of these people. She was incapable of considering anything outside of her narrow view of police and policing and frequently attacked those who believed differently. She refused to acknowledge that there is even a problem. Why should her fear be prioritized.
|
|
TheOtherMeg
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 2,541
Jun 25, 2014 20:58:14 GMT
|
Post by TheOtherMeg on Oct 28, 2020 23:47:42 GMT
And Hoff & Thanksgiving dinner. You guys are the best. *wipes tear*
|
|
luckyexwife
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 3,069
Jun 25, 2014 21:21:08 GMT
|
Post by luckyexwife on Oct 28, 2020 23:49:02 GMT
Can anyone share what Leo wife said in the email about her leaving?
|
|
|
Post by cindyupnorth on Oct 28, 2020 23:50:33 GMT
Hoff needs a pea on the end of his pitchfork
|
|
|
Post by cindyupnorth on Oct 28, 2020 23:55:52 GMT
Can anyone share what Leo wife said in the email about her leaving? Yes!? I'm totally confused about her reason for leaving? did she give one? I think I missed it in both threads?
|
|