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Post by freecharlie on Feb 23, 2021 2:40:20 GMT
Are you required to turn in lesson plans to someone on a regular basis?
I saw a post in a teacher group about having to submit lesson plans by x time on Sunday or Monday morning for the week and they had to be detailed
I've never had to turn in lesson plans. Sometimes when I am going to have my formal evaluation, I'll give my admin a general run down of the class, but unless you are on an improvement plan, I've never heard of them making us.
So do you have to turn in lesson plans?
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Post by fuji on Feb 23, 2021 2:41:42 GMT
No. Never. Thank goodness. I would absolutely hate that.
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Post by seaexplore on Feb 23, 2021 2:47:05 GMT
I do when asked. Usually my principal asks for a week each trimester- by Thursday afternoon of the week she’s asking for. I just copy my assignment/plan book and scrawl in the topics we’re doing, not the full standard.
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Post by iteach3rdgrade on Feb 23, 2021 2:55:45 GMT
I've always had to by Monday morning. In our building if it's a bit late then it isn't a problem. Some years the principal has checked off name and you got a note. I think they basically want them for emergencies if needed. Mine wouldn't be useful in an emergency.
I use planbook and I click the standards for Monday since they span the entire week. I put the very basics in my book. Evaluation plans are much more thorough... several pages for the lesson. Covers you in case your forget to say something or didn't talk about it. He likes a digital copy so he can copy and paste into otes.
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Post by christine58 on Feb 23, 2021 2:58:01 GMT
I’m retired so I’m currently not riding lesson plans but we did not have to turn them in until the end of the school year. Which made no sense because supposedly the head of our special education department was going to go through them which he did not. In fact one year I refuse to turn them in and he never argued with me. He had never ever written a lesson plan or an IEP in his life yet he was going to tell us how to do it. I’m so glad I’m retired.
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Feb 23, 2021 3:02:07 GMT
No.
I turn one in every three years for my evaluation/observation (Which I just had). I have heard of that, but I think that would be very weird and I would hate it. I do not write formal lesson plans unless I am having a sub.
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Post by leannec on Feb 23, 2021 3:33:10 GMT
No, never ... thankfully ... what a nightmare that would be My only detailed lesson plans are made when I have to make a substitute plan
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Post by worrywart on Feb 23, 2021 4:05:53 GMT
No thank goodness!! However, a lot of districts do require them.
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Post by fiddlesticks on Feb 23, 2021 5:23:21 GMT
I never had to turn them in but I had one principal that said our lesson plan book needed to be opened on our desk for her to check if she wanted to. She did a couple times at the beginning of the year.
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Post by Merge on Feb 23, 2021 5:30:45 GMT
I’m required to upload them to our school Sharepoint site, but they can be fairly vague. My struggle is just knowing exactly what and how I’m going to teach each week for six grade levels. In a normal year I’m creating most everything from scratch, and of course this year, the sort of lessons I would normally teach don’t work and have to be redesigned. Twice - once for in person and once for virtual.
Posting lesson plans isn’t my issue. It’s the actual planning, which takes a significant amount of time, even after all these years.
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Post by happyOCgirl on Feb 23, 2021 5:41:16 GMT
Well, thanks to politics in CA, every teacher does! Up until COVID, it has been decided by my principal if we had to. Usually, it was only for struggling teachers so the principal could offer support.
Some random bill passed in California that requires every teacher to submit their lesson plans for the week, attendance records for every student, and all forms of communication with your students (e-mail, referral to guidance, tutor support, etc.). It's all done digitally. Supposedly, it's tied to funding. What we all want to know is who's going to look at all that information?!
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Post by seaexplore on Feb 23, 2021 5:46:53 GMT
Well, thanks to politics in CA, every teacher does! Up until COVID, it has been decided by my principal if we had to. Usually, it was only for struggling teachers so the principal could offer support. Some random bill passed in California that requires every teacher to submit their lesson plans for the week, attendance records for every student, and all forms of communication with your students (e-mail, referral to guidance, tutor support, etc.). It's all done digitally. Supposedly, it's tied to funding. What we all want to know is who's going to look at all that information?! Whaaatttt??? I’m in CA and this is the first I’ve heard about plans. We do attendance and engagement. I delete all emails after they’ve been addressed. I don’t keep track of who shows up for my homework help/support classes. I was never told to.
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Post by katybee on Feb 23, 2021 5:55:18 GMT
We plan together as a team, and our team lesson plans have to be uploaded into Google Drive. My old principal used to check them and would email us if our plans were not done by the Monday before the week they were to be taught (so another words, a week in advance). My current principal, to her credit, doesn’t really check. She might look if she has a question about something that we’re teaching, but she does not look just to check up on us.
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Post by happyOCgirl on Feb 23, 2021 5:58:15 GMT
No way, seaexplore! We have been in hybrid mode since the end of September. August and September we just had to do lesson plans and attendance. The middle school (that's my level) and high school have to do all the stuff, the elementary still just have to do lesson plans and attendance. We all questioned our union, who went to the district about it- the response was we are required, no further discussion.
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Post by Jili on Feb 23, 2021 6:13:31 GMT
Years ago, teachers were told that plans should be on their desks so they could be checked at random. I don't know that that was ever done.
These days, hardly anyone uses an actual plan book anymore. Plans are usually done digitally. I remember the days of teachers in labor running into the building on their way to the hospital so that they could drop off plans for the substitute. These days, they just upload sub plans to AESOP.
Our general education teachers follow a week-by-week pacing guide for all subject (that they've created as grade-levels) so it's pretty spelled out what they should be doing and where they should be, though there's some variation from class to class.
I am not a gen ed teacher, but I do write daily plans for my groups. No admin has ever asked to see them. Before an evaluation I have to write up a narrative stating what the administrator will be observing, the goals and objectives, etc.
As a SLP, I am required to keep daily attendance logs, along with a brief record of what was worked on in a session, which IEP goals it connects to, any accommodations provided, and any relevant data. I've developed a google form and it dumps it all into a spreadsheet.
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Post by dualmaestra on Feb 23, 2021 6:14:37 GMT
Well, thanks to politics in CA, every teacher does! Up until COVID, it has been decided by my principal if we had to. Usually, it was only for struggling teachers so the principal could offer support. Some random bill passed in California that requires every teacher to submit their lesson plans for the week, attendance records for every student, and all forms of communication with your students (e-mail, referral to guidance, tutor support, etc.). It's all done digitally. Supposedly, it's tied to funding. What we all want to know is who's going to look at all that information?! Whaaatttt??? I’m in CA and this is the first I’ve heard about plans. We do attendance and engagement. I delete all emails after they’ve been addressed. I don’t keep track of who shows up for my homework help/support classes. I was never told to. Another Cali teacher that does not have to turn in lesson plans. I've taught in 2 different districts in Southern California and only had to turn them in for 2 weeks when I first started at my new district/school. Other than that, just lessons for evaluations. I've mostly heard it usually depends not so much on the district, but the principal. Some principals require them to be turned in. Luckily, I've never had to.
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Post by sueg on Feb 23, 2021 6:34:25 GMT
I'm also no longer teaching, but when I was (up until the end of 2009) we were expected to have our lesson plans for the week online by Monday when classes started. We were able to change things during the week, if necessary. The main reason was so that plans were there in cases of unexpected absence.
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Post by SAHM wannabe on Feb 23, 2021 7:21:02 GMT
I am so envious!!
I’m in my 25th year of teaching elementary gen ed. I am still required to have detailed lesson plans uploaded in Curriculum Engine by the Wednesday before each week.
I’ve been doing distance learning all year and loading all the assignments in Google Classroom. The Google Classroom directions have to be detailed enough that parents can understand and help their children at home. Fair enough. However, my principal still requires our standard plans to be uploaded in Curriculum Engine and attach standards to each lesson. It is such tedious nonsense.
On another note, my district is beginning the hybrid model for K-3 on Monday. Fortunately, teachers and all support staff have been moved up in priority to get the vaccine. I had my second dose last Thursday. We are one step closer to returning to “normal”.
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Post by nlwilkins on Feb 23, 2021 7:33:21 GMT
Wow! things have changed. I taught in the 80's and 90's and was required to turn in lesson plans with the objectives listed for each lesson. We had a list of objectives that were to be covered in each course for the year and they even had how many hours should be spent on each objective. The lesson plans were required to be turned in before first period on Monday. A teacher had to map out the course for the year to be sure everything was covered that was needed to be covered.
Teachers that taught more than one subject had more to do than those who only taught one. There were some years I taught three different courses. Which meant more planing and more paperwork etc. But it helped me a lot to stay on track. Teachers got one period off a day for planning. If a teacher planned it right, worksheets for the week were run off before the week started. We were also required to have emergency plans for the substitute, with worksheets, etc. (Substitutes generally did not have the skills to teach what was planned.)
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Post by seaexplore on Feb 23, 2021 14:03:25 GMT
No way, seaexplore! We have been in hybrid mode since the end of September. August and September we just had to do lesson plans and attendance. The middle school (that's my level) and high school have to do all the stuff, the elementary still just have to do lesson plans and attendance. We all questioned our union, who went to the district about it- the response was we are required, no further discussion. Wow! That’s nuts! Maybe it’s because I’m at a k-8? I’m the site rep too and have not heard of this crazy!
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Post by 950nancy on Feb 23, 2021 14:33:56 GMT
We didn't have to turn them in, but we were observed between 3-7 times a year and the observer had to be able to see the plans. We also had to have the objective posted and the kids had to be able to tell the observer what they were learning, why they were leaning it and how they would know if they learned it.
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Post by kibblesandbits on Feb 23, 2021 14:53:19 GMT
During my career, I always had lesson plans detailed for each unit we taught. Used the same framework from year to year, but tweaked each year to improve the delivery of content and differentiate for the students in front of me.
We were required to be able to show evidence of planning/lessons if any administrator entered the room. I had the habit of leaving my room clean each and every night, except for my plan book and the next day's lesson laid out. More than once I left my room after school to go to a sports event or meeting and would come back to an administrator or my department head in my room scoping things out.
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Post by Alexxussss on Feb 23, 2021 15:09:49 GMT
Yes, detailed plans every Monday by 9 am (it’s been this way for all 20 of my years). I’m shocked others don’t have to!
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Post by luckyjune on Feb 23, 2021 15:20:09 GMT
No. Never.
I'm baffled by this process, as I am by the people who have to pay to wear jeans on Friday, or have any dress code imposed, for that matter.
Our culture does not trust teachers. We do not trust the people who do "women's work."
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2021 15:26:28 GMT
That is one of the reasons I got out of teaching. I did it briefly at my first teaching job, but only as continued learning experience and they only asked for them for a couple of months to make sure I was comfortable and doing alright. 10 years later at another school everything was fine until a brand new teacher threw a fit that it was not fair that I did not have to turn things in. So they started asking for lesson plans AND to get tests/projects approved before we could give them. They got so backlogged that they made it impossible to get any teaching done because they weren't approving things on time.
Add to that getting pulled from all of my preps and lunch so I could sit in some other new teachers rooms because they couldn't control their classes (high school) and I was just DONE! I was pregnant with my son and it was an easy decision to not go back to teaching. I still do consulting with families to help with reading placement and other things as needed (for free), but the red tape does not tempt me to go back into the classroom even though I love it still.
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Post by monklady123 on Feb 23, 2021 15:43:30 GMT
I'm just a sub not a regular teacher so thank goodness I don't have to do anything with lesson plans except follow the ones that are left for me. lol But...I know at my school the teachers aren't required to turn them in on a regular basis. However, all teachers are supposed to have an emergency substitute binder with detailed lesson plans for a few days. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha gasp... lol. The few times I've ever had to look in there -- I say "few" because I work for excellent teachers who almost always leave me detailed plans -- but the few times I've had to go to that binder the kids will tell me that they've already done whatever is in there. Those teachers never seemed to think to update the binder. Or, better yet make generic plans that can be applied to whatever they happen to be working on at that moment. So instead of saying "describe how Mouse felt when Fox tried to eat him" the writing assignment should say something like "describe a problem that the main character solved"... something that a kid could write about no matter what book they were reading at the moment. Anyway... sorry for that tangent.
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Post by Jili on Feb 23, 2021 15:52:49 GMT
No. Never. I'm baffled by this process, as I am by the people who have to pay to wear jeans on Friday, or have any dress code imposed, for that matter. Our culture does not trust teachers. We do not trust the people who do "women's work." I agree with this. Is the equivalent ever required of other professionals? The majority of the teachers I know are working on planning outside of school hours, and they don't have the conventional red planning book anymore. Administrators are present at the grade-level team meetings. This year our teachers are all using Google Classroom and they have slide shows with the week's activities spelled out in detail.
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Post by Jili on Feb 23, 2021 15:55:14 GMT
I'm just a sub not a regular teacher so thank goodness I don't have to do anything with lesson plans except follow the ones that are left for me. lol But...I know at my school the teachers aren't required to turn them in on a regular basis. However, all teachers are supposed to have an emergency substitute binder with detailed lesson plans for a few days. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha gasp... lol. The few times I've ever had to look in there -- I say "few" because I work for excellent teachers who almost always leave me detailed plans -- but the few times I've had to go to that binder the kids will tell me that they've already done whatever is in there. Those teachers never seemed to think to update the binder. Or, better yet make generic plans that can be applied to whatever they happen to be working on at that moment. So instead of saying "describe how Mouse felt when Fox tried to eat him" the writing assignment should say something like "describe a problem that the main character solved"... something that a kid could write about no matter what book they were reading at the moment. Anyway... sorry for that tangent. LOL. I don't think our teachers even have 'sub folders' anymore. I believe that they have the basics posted in the substitute procurement system, and they upload pretty detailed plans when they're going to be absent. If there's a situation where they really can't handle planning (family emergency, longer-term illness, etc.) the rest of the team works together to prep plans for that teacher.
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Post by Merge on Feb 23, 2021 16:38:11 GMT
I'm just a sub not a regular teacher so thank goodness I don't have to do anything with lesson plans except follow the ones that are left for me. lol But...I know at my school the teachers aren't required to turn them in on a regular basis. However, all teachers are supposed to have an emergency substitute binder with detailed lesson plans for a few days. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha gasp... lol. The few times I've ever had to look in there -- I say "few" because I work for excellent teachers who almost always leave me detailed plans -- but the few times I've had to go to that binder the kids will tell me that they've already done whatever is in there. Those teachers never seemed to think to update the binder. Or, better yet make generic plans that can be applied to whatever they happen to be working on at that moment. So instead of saying "describe how Mouse felt when Fox tried to eat him" the writing assignment should say something like "describe a problem that the main character solved"... something that a kid could write about no matter what book they were reading at the moment. Anyway... sorry for that tangent. LOL. I don't think our teachers even have 'sub folders' anymore. I believe that they have the basics posted in the substitute procurement system, and they upload pretty detailed plans when they're going to be absent. If there's a situation where they really can't handle planning (family emergency, longer-term illness, etc.) the rest of the team works together to prep plans for that teacher. We are still required to have a red sub folder visible on our desk in case of emergency.
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Post by mom2rjcr on Feb 23, 2021 18:46:21 GMT
We are required to turn in lesson plans every Friday. We upload them into google docs. I personally don't mind, and because I teach special ed, lesson plans are also shared with me. Very helpful in planning for me, that way I can see what is happening in the classroom, and when tests are being given so that I can provided support if needed. Our lesson plans don't have to be super detailed. I do like it when my grade level peers include links to videos,etc. they are using.
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