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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 18:32:16 GMT
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Post by maryland on Mar 23, 2021 18:56:17 GMT
So, are we done with this one? Anyone take any action? Are we waiting for the next one? We DON'T HAVE TO LIVE LIKE THIS. Most of the developed world does not DIE like this. As long as republicans REFUSE To do anything regarding any/all gun control legislation, then yes, sadly, this is how we will have to live. Lauren Boebert—“Rep. Lauren Boebert’s (R-Colo.) campaign sent out a fundraising email to her supporters encouraging them to say “Hell No” to any gun control measures in Washington on Monday night just hours after a mass shooting in her state left ten people including a police officer dead.” Republicans don’t care about blue lives either. So very hypocritical that they will blast Democrats as “loving to kill babies via abortion” and will legislate the hell to control women’s bodies and try to ban abortion and women’s health, yet they continue to support anyone having any type of gun, bonus points if they’re white, any white man who screams that his rights are being taken away. Such fucking bullshit. I’m so god damned done with republicans. I agree! It's so frustrating. It's because they don't "care" about people once they are born. A baby is 5 min. old, they are not "cared" about anymore. Because at that point they can't control women's bodies (which I find so disgusting), so why "care" anymore. I hate so much that they say abortion is murder, but they could care less about people being shot just for going grocery shopping, going to school/work, etc. |
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Post by kitkath on Mar 23, 2021 19:11:22 GMT
There was a mass shooting last week in Chicago. 15 shot, 2 died. But you don’t really care about that so why bring it up? It would seem no one wants to talk about why most every mass shooting is carried out by a white man. Why? I do care and that’s why I am bringing it up. Boulder was the 3rd mass shooting in less than a week, not the 2nd. Why is the media ignoring the 15 people shot at a party in Chicago? |
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Post by dnkmmw on Mar 23, 2021 19:22:39 GMT
I do care and that’s why I am bringing it up. Boulder was the 3rd mass shooting in less than a week, not the 2nd. Why is the media ignoring the 15 people shot at a party in Chicago? I think the issue is that the definition of a "mass shooting" typically is a shooting in which 4 or more people are killed. The media isn't ignoring it, it just doesn't fit the commonly used criteria. "There are a variety of definitions of mass shooting: • Under U.S. federal law, the Attorney General – on a request from a state – may assist in investigating “mass killings,” rather than mass shootings. The term was originally defined as the murder of four or more people with no cooling-off period but redefined by Congress in 2013 as being murder of three or more people. • In “Behind the Bloodshed”, a report by USA Today, a mass killing is defined as: any incident in which four or more were killed, including familial killings. • A crowdsourced data site cited by CNN, MSNBC, The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Economist, the BBC, etc., Mass Shooting Tracker, defines a mass shooting as any incident in which four or more people are shot, whether injured or killed. • According to the Investigative Assistance for Violent Crimes Act of 2012, signed into law in January 2013, a mass killing is defined as a killing with at least three deaths, excluding the perpetrator." |
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Post by h2ohdog on Mar 23, 2021 22:51:34 GMT
What makes white men so prone to mass shootings? they feel they are losing their power. Not endorsing this, as a granny Boomer, but that is what seems to make sense. Or was that rhetorical? |
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Post by uksue on Mar 23, 2021 23:10:08 GMT
The reaction and words of Ted Cruz is so offensive. Does this idiot have no filter or insight?
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Post by Merge on Mar 23, 2021 23:12:34 GMT
But you don’t really care about that so why bring it up? It would seem no one wants to talk about why most every mass shooting is carried out by a white man. Why? I do care and that’s why I am bringing it up. Boulder was the 3rd mass shooting in less than a week, not the 2nd. Why is the media ignoring the 15 people shot at a party in Chicago? “The media” is not ignoring it. I was able to pull up any number of articles about it. I would think it’s not quite an apples to oranges comparison to equate a likely gang-related shooting at a party in an area where, according to at least one party goer, these kinds of things happen all the time, and the targeting and killing of random people at work or buying groceries. There is one common denominator, though, and that’s the easy availability of guns in this country. Whether legally purchased or illegally obtained (often because someone’s legally purchased gun was sold or stolen), it’s super easy for anyone to buy a gun in this country. Fewer guns legally purchased would, over time, mean fewer guns available on the streets. We don’t see either kind of shooting happening in other western democracies. No one in the UK worries about being gunned down in Tesco or at a party. No matter, though - nothing will happen because the “but Chicago!” crowd refuses to acknowledge the underlying problem. They’d rather deflect and distract than grapple with our nation’s servitude to the gun manufacturers. |
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Post by peano on Mar 24, 2021 0:02:03 GMT
I do care and that’s why I am bringing it up. Boulder was the 3rd mass shooting in less than a week, not the 2nd. Why is the media ignoring the 15 people shot at a party in Chicago? “The media” is not ignoring it. I was able to pull up any number of articles about it. I would think it’s not quite an apples to oranges comparison to equate a likely gang-related shooting at a party in an area where, according to at least one party goer, these kinds of things happen all the time, and the targeting and killing of random people at work or buying groceries. There is one common denominator, though, and that’s the easy availability of guns in this country. Whether legally purchased or illegally obtained (often because someone’s legally purchased gun was sold or stolen), it’s super easy for anyone to buy a gun in this country. Fewer guns legally purchased would, over time, mean fewer guns available on the streets. We don’t see either kind of shooting happening in other western democracies. No one in the UK worries about being gunned down in Tesco or at a party. No matter, though - nothing will happen because the “but Chicago!” crowd refuses to acknowledge the underlying problem. They’d rather deflect and distract than grapple with our nation’s servitude to the gun manufacturers.
So much this. |
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Post by malibou on Mar 24, 2021 0:22:55 GMT
Dh has a college friend that lives in Boulder. He got a hold of her this morning and she is a wreck. One of the victims is her dear friend.
So senseless.
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Post by Olan on Mar 24, 2021 0:24:22 GMT
What makes white men so prone to mass shootings? they feel they are losing their power. Not endorsing this, as a granny Boomer, but that is what seems to make sense. Or was that rhetorical? No it wasn’t and it’s one I’ve heard before but All the Black men in my life would report at some point or another feeling powerless because racism is dehumanizing and emasculating. The same can be said about never having a lover of your choosing and being forced to breed then that family unit split up. Actual powerlessness. Still no mass murderers. White men...mediocre ones at that control so much shit it makes my head spin. So where exactly is the powerlessness? Anyone watching/colonized would describe them as pretty powerful indeed. |
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Post by freecharlie on Mar 24, 2021 0:26:28 GMT
Does anyone ever wonder why the shooters are never Black men? And to take it even further if you really think about it who has the most reasons to be angry enough to commit mass murders? Other men have it really easy in comparison so why are they so angry? What would have happened if gun control was meant to keep people safe and not keep Black people from being armed. Follow the money? No. Follow the disenfranchised Black citizen and see where the impact will be for everyone else 🤷🏾♀️Injustice trickles down. Black men are participating in plenty of shootings. Every week. People still die, people's lives are still disrupted. The murders add up. yes they do, but random mass shootings are typically perpetuated by white males under the age of 35. |
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Post by Olan on Mar 24, 2021 0:37:35 GMT
I can poll Black men pretty quickly in a WhatsApp group and so far almost a dozen men say YES to a “persistent feeling of powerlessness”.
Soldiers being lynched in their uniforms
Sexuality not being openly expressed for fear of lynching
Not being able to purchase a home to start a family
Not being able to join a union
Being paid less
Being called boy
Growing up poor
Not being able to protect the people you love from harm (my fathers biggest)
Being discriminated against etc.
All common Black male experiences. Many racist practices were designed to attack Black manhood and it’s working hence Chicago. Still no mass murderers.
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Post by used2scrap on Mar 24, 2021 1:12:35 GMT
Dh has a college friend that lives in Boulder. He got a hold of her this morning and she is a wreck. One of the victims is her dead friend. So senseless. I’m so sorry. |
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Post by Merge on Mar 24, 2021 1:34:16 GMT
Black men are participating in plenty of shootings. Every week. People still die, people's lives are still disrupted. The murders add up. yes they do, but random mass shootings are typically perpetuated by white males under the age of 35. Yes, and the same people working to combat the poverty, institutionalized racism, and hopelessness that leads to young black men join criminal gangs, are the ones also promoting access to health care (including mental health care) for everyone, and sensible gun control laws that make it harder for the random mass shootings to happen when a white guy has a bad day. On the other side, Ted Cruz and his ilk just throw up their hands and head off to the range. Nothing to be done about any of this! That's all socialism! |
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Post by freecharlie on Mar 24, 2021 1:37:44 GMT
yes they do, but random mass shootings are typically perpetuated by white males under the age of 35. Yes, and the same people working to combat the poverty, institutionalized racism, and hopelessness that leads to young black men join criminal gangs, are the ones also promoting access to health care (including mental health care) for everyone, and sensible gun control laws that make it harder for the random mass shootings to happen when a white guy has a bad day. On the other side, Ted Cruz and his ilk just throw up their hands and head off to the range. Nothing to be done about any of this! That's all socialism! Asshats, fucksticks, et al |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 24, 2021 1:44:10 GMT
Yes, and the same people working to combat the poverty, institutionalized racism, and hopelessness that leads to young black men join criminal gangs, are the ones also promoting access to health care (including mental health care) for everyone, and sensible gun control laws that make it harder for the random mass shootings to happen when a white guy has a bad day. On the other side, Ted Cruz and his ilk just throw up their hands and head off to the range. Nothing to be done about any of this! That's all socialism! Asshats, fucksticks, et al |
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Post by h2ohdog on Mar 24, 2021 2:20:29 GMT
So where exactly is the powerlessness? Perceived loss of power. The fact that they see their way of life changing at all freaks them out. When I say it makes sense, I am not saying it is true, but that they believe it to be true. I was not clear in my first post. ETA and apparently not this one either. Can I just back away... my gut, brain, heart, and soul agree with you, OlanETAA I wish I knew why the people who do not have power didn’t lash out more. |
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Post by Olan on Mar 24, 2021 3:34:24 GMT
So where exactly is the powerlessness? Perceived loss of power. The fact that they see their way of life changing at all freaks them out. When I say it makes sense, I am not saying it is true, but that they believe it to be true. I was not clear in my first post. ETA and apparently not this one either. Can I just back away... my gut, brain, heart, and soul agree with you, OlanETAA I wish I knew why the people who do not have power didn’t lash out more. I hope I didn’t give you the impression you needed to defend it. I’m really trying to understand why the anger but I’m sure your guess is as good as mine. |
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