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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 9, 2021 16:52:34 GMT
They are totally off the deep end-!! WATCH: Ohio nurse flops trying to prove anti-vax doctor's bizarre magnet conspiracy theory Travis Gettys June 09, 2021 "I have a key and a bobby pin here," she said, pressing a key against her chest until it sticks. ** "Explain to me here why the key sticks to me! It stick to my neck, too." ** Small items will briefly stick to skin due to the waxy sebum that mammals secret from their sebaceous glands, and not necessarily proof that vaccines contain magnetic crystals. All ingredients for the Pfizer/BioNTech, Oxford/AstraZeneca, Moderna and Janssen vaccines have been made publicly available, and none of them contain high enough amounts of any substance that would attract a magnet. www.rawstory.com/vaccine-magnetic/ |
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Post by auntkelly on Jun 9, 2021 17:47:59 GMT
This article sums up my feelings about Fauci’s emails: NBC Article
I don’t have strong feelings about Dr. Fauci one way or the other. I do think we need to learn, as far as possible, how the virus spread. I think it’s possible, given the tone of the early emails, that there might have been an initial reluctance, whether intentional or not, to discount the possibility that the lab might somehow have been involved. I certainly don’t think the emails are a smoking gun, but I don’t think they should be ignored, either. Is it even his job to determine that? At that point (once it was clearly already here and spreading), I’m not sure that *where* it came from mattered then as much as knowing the country was WOEFULLY underprepared for what was likely to come, and trying to figure what to do with that, which seems to be more in line with his job. You could argue there were a couple of mistakes with that part of his job, but pinning the whole lack of origin investigation then on him, seems a strawman gotcha argument being made by people determined to discredit him. Woodward’s tapes clearly show the President himself knew it was very serious in April 2020, but publicly talked a completely opposite game. I can’t even imagine trying to do that kind of job around that kind of environment. I certainly never meant to give the impression that I thought it was Fauci's responsibility to determine where the virus originated. I'm certainly not arguing that we should be "pinning the whole lack of origin investigation" on him. I'm not arguing that the emails prove he did anything wrong or even had any preconceived notions about the origins of the virus. However, I do think certain emails Fauci sent and received raise some questions which should be explored. Mainly, I think we need to know whether there may have been a rush to judgment on the part of some in the scientific community (whether intentional or not) to discount the possibility that the virus may have leaked from the lab in China. The more research and investigation we do now concerning our handling of the pandemic, the more prepared future generations will be to deal w/ a pandemic. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 9, 2021 17:53:01 GMT
sassyangel missed this in the first go-around .. Woodward taped former in January 2020... 
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Post by sassyangel on Jun 9, 2021 18:09:09 GMT
Is it even his job to determine that? At that point (once it was clearly already here and spreading), I’m not sure that *where* it came from mattered then as much as knowing the country was WOEFULLY underprepared for what was likely to come, and trying to figure what to do with that, which seems to be more in line with his job. You could argue there were a couple of mistakes with that part of his job, but pinning the whole lack of origin investigation then on him, seems a strawman gotcha argument being made by people determined to discredit him. Woodward’s tapes clearly show the President himself knew it was very serious in April 2020, but publicly talked a completely opposite game. I can’t even imagine trying to do that kind of job around that kind of environment. I certainly never meant to give the impression that I thought it was Fauci's responsibility to determine where the virus originated. I'm certainly not arguing that we should be "pinning the whole lack of origin investigation" on him. I'm not arguing that the emails prove he did anything wrong or even had any preconceived notions about the origins of the virus. However, I do think certain emails Fauci sent and received raise some questions which should be explored. Mainly, I think we need to know whether there may have been a rush to judgment on the part of some in the scientific community (whether intentional or not) to discount the possibility that the virus may have leaked from the lab in China. The more research and investigation we do now concerning our handling of the pandemic, the more prepared future generations will be to deal w/ a pandemic. I know you weren’t. I was responding to the NBC take you posted. |
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Post by sassyangel on Jun 9, 2021 18:15:07 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 9, 2021 19:25:31 GMT
Ok, good!! Thanks.
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Post by manda on Aug 1, 2021 7:41:32 GMT
Sometimes I have had the thought we are being manipulated by the media about Covid and that it doesn’t matter what our government officials say about covid related topics because the media is in control. Which makes me wonder... Now I sound crazy... Well, yes, actually. Yes actually what? Please clarify. |
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Post by manda on Aug 1, 2021 7:44:49 GMT
Meanwhile there’s a 3-pager rambling on about Trump’s crotch. LOL It may be dumb but it doesn’t affect anything important. (Trump’s self-esteem is less than meaningless to me.) But musing that perhaps the media is actually in control of the government leads to things like QAnon. I feel like it needs to be nipped in the bud. Maybe I didn’t go about it properly. My apologies, manda. But please don’t go down that conspiracy-theory road. I didn’t say a word about the media being in control of the government or that I believe in what QAnon has to say (of which I know nothing about what they say). Nor am I a conspiracy theorist. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 1, 2021 11:55:02 GMT
They are totally off the deep end-!! WATCH: Ohio nurse flops trying to prove anti-vax doctor's bizarre magnet conspiracy theory Travis Gettys June 09, 2021 "I have a key and a bobby pin here," she said, pressing a key against her chest until it sticks. ** "Explain to me here why the key sticks to me! It stick to my neck, too." ** Small items will briefly stick to skin due to the waxy sebum that mammals secret from their sebaceous glands, and not necessarily proof that vaccines contain magnetic crystals. All ingredients for the Pfizer/BioNTech, Oxford/AstraZeneca, Moderna and Janssen vaccines have been made publicly available, and none of them contain high enough amounts of any substance that would attract a magnet. www.rawstory.com/vaccine-magnetic/My uncle was in a car accident recently. When his son and sons wife came to the hospital, the DIL brought a magnet and held it up to uncles arm, stating that the magnet should stick since he was vaccinated. I am not sure if she was trying to say that Is what caused the accident or just wanted to prove her theory about the magnet. But it’s nuts. |
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Post by lucyg on Aug 1, 2021 21:48:58 GMT
It may be dumb but it doesn’t affect anything important. (Trump’s self-esteem is less than meaningless to me.) But musing that perhaps the media is actually in control of the government leads to things like QAnon. I feel like it needs to be nipped in the bud. Maybe I didn’t go about it properly. My apologies, manda . But please don’t go down that conspiracy-theory road. I didn’t say a word about the media being in control of the government or that I believe in what QAnon has to say (of which I know nothing about what they say). Nor am I a conspiracy theorist. Whatever. You’re the one who said “the media is in control.” All I did was interpret it, apparently incorrectly. Maybe don’t say stuff like that and then disappear for two months? I had to reread the entire thread to figure out what was going on. |
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Post by peasapie on Aug 1, 2021 22:02:08 GMT
They need someone to blame. They're shooting at him and Pelosi and hoping something will land.
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Post by littlemama on Aug 1, 2021 22:20:34 GMT
Oh, FFS until there is outrage over the trump family and their consistent use of non-secure phones and emails, I dont want to hear another word about anyone else's F'ing emails.
[Obviously not directed at anyone in this thread, just to the universe]
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