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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 1:08:25 GMT
Then throw the fact that one of the sons has the same first name as the father who in turn has the same first name as his father  Ah, small world. You know my family. Story #1: When my grandfather wanted to retire for the railroad, he didn’t know his birthdate and wasn’t exactly sure of his age. My father wrote the priest at the parish in County Kerry asking for documentation. Fr. O’Whozit sent a photocopy of the entry in the bible (natch) that listed not one, but TWO sons born to my great grandparents with the same first and middle names. One had died as a baby so, you know, they just named the next son the same names. ‘Cuz that name had.to. continue. Story #2: *I* am that son of the son of the son of the son. My father said “Enough!” and named me the feminized form of the name. And… …his mother refused to come to my baptism. Even though she already had four grandsons with the name. Oy vey. Oh gosh ! |
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Post by Nanner on Jun 7, 2021 1:12:24 GMT
My ex-husband's cousin named her daughter the same name as we named ours. We were both pregnant at the same time, and she liked the name we'd picked out (I had actually decided on that name when I was 15), that she named her dd that. I didn't care. My dd was born 2 months later and I still named her the name I'd loved for the past 10+ years.
My sister and our cousin both had their sons in the same month. They used the same first name. Sister used our grandfather's first name as her son's middle name and cousin used gramps' last name as her son's middle name.
It's no big deal to us if people share the same name. Not at all.
And back to H&M. I'm glad baby and mother are well, of course, and it's a cute name. But really, I can't stand H&M. They want privacy, but they don't. They trashed his family, but named their child after the head of the family. They're just a couple of hypocrites. I think she thought she'd marry him and go in there and change everything to be the way SHE wanted it to be and when she couldn't, she decided to do as much damage as she could to them. Beginning with pulling her weak husband away from his family. I wish they'd just disappear into anonymity. And that's all I'm saying on this topic.
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Post by mom on Jun 7, 2021 1:32:03 GMT
IMHO yes. Its weird for cousins to have the two same middle names. How about cousins with the same first names? Given Prince Philip's Greek heritage it wouldn't be unusual. DD has the same first name as BIL's older DD and the same middle name as my sister's older DD. All named after respective grandmothers. Both Princess Eugenie and Zara Tindall used Philip as a middle names for their sons this year. Lena Elizabeth Tindall and Isla Elizabeth Phillips are another set of cousins who share middle names. What is odd, IMHO, is Prince George Alexander Louis having a younger brother named Prince Louis Arthur Charles.  Oh I agree about Louis. LOL Maybe I think its weird because I know of no one in real life with the same middle name as cousins. All my sisters and I double and triple checked that no one had same names. I have one cousin that is a Jr/Sr type of situation, but thats all. Oh well, I think its odd and apparently the rest of the world doesn't. To each their own, I suppose. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 1:48:00 GMT
I so don’t understand British royalty last names. Why Philip’s last name? It’s not the Queen’s or Charles’ or even Harry’s. Do they just get to choose? I know anyone in America can put whatever they want on a birth certificate so is it just that? Or is there some reason other than affection for Grandpa that Harry’s kids get that name? Wonder what Megan’s legal last name is. Their legal last name for all of them, Princes' Charles Andrew, Edward, William and Harry is Mountbatten-Windsor as was Princess Anne before she was married. But as they all have titles they themselves don't use it. Archie and Lili will as they don't have titles. Obviously Meghan has chosen the legal last name of her husband for their children. Oh that makes more sense. When I did a quick, very cursory google, it didn't give that last name to the Queen (said hers is Windsor only), Charles, Harry, or William so I thought Philip alone held it. Thanks for clarifying. |
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Post by paulao on Jun 7, 2021 1:50:31 GMT
Why is it odd for cousins to have the same middle name??? My dad was Paul, my brother’s middle name was Paul, and I’m Paula. Is that weird?  ? |
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jun 7, 2021 1:53:56 GMT
Also interesting in the wake of their "racist royal family" claims, the baby girl gets named after the two white (and Royal) ancestors while the only grandmother/relative from Meghan's side doesn't get a mention. If they are going with a cutesy name like Lili, then they could have easily included Meghan's mother and made use of the two D's from both grandmothers, such as DeeDee or Dodi (that's just 2, I'm sure there are others) Especially as Doria is likely to be the only grandparent who she will get to spend any significant time with. A few weeks back I tried to come up with a "grandma combo" name. My best effort was the Dia from Diana combines with the ria from Doria. Diaria. It looks fine until you say it out loud in just the wrong way. |
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Jun 7, 2021 1:53:57 GMT
I love that she is named after the Queen and Princess Diana,
Lili is a cute nickname.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 1:54:42 GMT
I don't think it's odd for both sons to want to honor their mom, especially since she's deceased. In that regard, I can imagine Harry feeling cheated if he couldn't just because William got there first. But I do still think that the tribute to the Queen is odd in light of everything else.
I agree that Philippa was never really in the running due to Catherine's sister.
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Post by MissBianca on Jun 7, 2021 2:00:44 GMT
Then throw the fact that one of the sons has the same first name as the father who in turn has the same first name as his father Ah, small world. You know my family. Story #1: When my grandfather wanted to retire, the railroad required proof of his birthdate. He didn’t even know his birthdate and wasn’t exactly sure of his age. My father wrote to the parish in County Kerry. Fr. O’Whozit sent a photocopy of the entry in the bible (natch) that listed not one, but TWO sons born to my great grandparents with the same first and middle names. One had died as a baby so, you know, they just named the next son the same names. ‘Cuz that name had.to. continue. Story #2: *I* am that son of the son of the son of the son. My Americanized father said “Enough!” and named me the feminized form of the name. And… …his mother refused to come to my baptism. Even though she already had four grandsons with the name. Oy vey. 28 consecutive George’s in my family and none of them had middle names. Talk about a genealogical nightmare. |
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Post by lesserknownpea on Jun 7, 2021 2:18:34 GMT
Harry has consistently stated on numerous occasions that he has nothing but respect and admiration for his grandmother.
His comments on Charles’ childhood are in reference to his Dad’s own words and stories, and Charles has not been shy about his lonely, miserable boyhood.
If H and M were trying to curry favor with the Queen for monetary purposes, they would not have made any of the decisions they have in the last year and a half. And the same people who accuse them of wanting money from the Queen or Royal trust also criticize their work towards financial independence.
If people want to find something to criticize, they will, even if it makes no sense.
I love the name, and wish we could look forward to regular photos, but after watching what happened in the press after Archie was born, I totally understand why that won’t be happening.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Jun 7, 2021 2:18:59 GMT
I am curious, is Mountbatten-Windsor the maiden name of Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie? Are they allowed to take their Husbands last name is they want to?
Zara took her Husbands last name. What is her maiden name?
Edited to add...I just googled, and Zara's maiden last name was Phillips.
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Post by magellen on Jun 7, 2021 2:28:33 GMT
Then throw the fact that one of the sons has the same first name as the father who in turn has the same first name as his father Ah, small world. You know my family. Story #1: When my grandfather wanted to retire, the railroad required proof of his birthdate. He didn’t even know his birthdate and wasn’t exactly sure of his age. My father wrote to the parish in County Kerry. Fr. O’Whozit sent a photocopy of the entry in the bible (natch) that listed not one, but TWO sons born to my great grandparents with the same first and middle names. One had died as a baby so, you know, they just named the next son the same names. ‘Cuz that name had.to. continue. Story #2: *I* am that son of the son of the son of the son. My Americanized father said “Enough!” and named me the feminized form of the name. And… …his mother refused to come to my baptism. Even though she already had four grandsons with the name. Oy vey. My great grandmother named a baby after her MIL. That baby died, the mil get angry, great grandmother had another baby and named her after MIL, to keep the name going my father named me after those horrible women. The name dies with me. |
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Post by mom on Jun 7, 2021 3:00:28 GMT
I am curious, is Mountbatten-Windsor the maiden name of Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie? Are they allowed to take their Husbands last name is they want to? Zara took her Husbands last name. What is her maiden name? Edited to add...I just googled, and Zara's maiden last name was Phillips. Yes, they are Beatrice Elizabeth Mary Mountbatten-Windsor and Eugenie Victoria Helena Mountbatten-Windsor. |
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Post by pjaye on Jun 7, 2021 3:29:17 GMT
but after watching what happened in the press after Archie was born, What happened? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 4:23:47 GMT
I vote people get to name their kids what they want without strangers offering should-have names. I suggest you stay off of twitter. The meanness by some is off the charts. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 4:38:53 GMT
Lili, as the most senior royal in the line of succession to be born overseas, is also eligible to become president of the United States. Any pea screenwriters? There you go. Do your thing..... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 8:43:31 GMT
I am curious, is Mountbatten-Windsor the maiden name of Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie? Are they allowed to take their Husbands last name is they want to? Zara took her Husbands last name. What is her maiden name? Edited to add...I just googled, and Zara's maiden last name was Phillips. It would be Mountbatten-Windsor if they were not Princesses in their own right. A title that they were known as and used. They can take their husbands name if they wanted to. I have no idea what either of them wish to call themselves in private. If Eugenie wants to take her son to the local mums and baby club there is nothing to stop her calling herself plain Mrs Brooksbank. As for Zara, she's never had a title to use and her Dad was Peter Phillips, therefore her maiden name was Phillips. Prince Edward's children don't have the Prince/Princess title either. His daughter is Lady Louise Alice Elizabeth Mary Mountbatten-Windsor and their sona has Viscount title. He is the son of an Earl and goes by James, Viscount Severn. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 10:08:51 GMT
Looking at genealogy sites when tracing my family tree , I had not realised just how many generations pass down the exact same name , it can get pretty confusing over 250 years or more.
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Post by theshyone on Jun 7, 2021 11:16:05 GMT
I love Lili my mil was Lilly, I love the name and can see a resurgence of it.
My sister and I both named our sons the exact same first name over a decade apart, after very different people. Nothing wrong with that to us, but it did piss my sister off, but we wanted our son named after his paternal grandfather.
Over a century ago I found my ancestors passed the same first and middle name onto first born sons, and if that child died, the next born son would get the names. Then one of those mens wife died, and when he remarried his first born son to that wife was named the same thing. So at one time, in one house, there was the father, grandfather, and two living sons with exactly the same name. I imagined the second wife insisting on the name even though her stepson had it.
I would imagine first photo rights will go to the highest bidder.
I also think Harry referred to his mothers sad childhood also, in that quote, from a broken home, and very awkward and alone was Diana as a child.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Jun 7, 2021 11:33:57 GMT
Desperately trying to make sure they stay in the Queens's good books (and her will) before she dies - despite the hurt they must have caused her by denigrating the Royal Family as a whole repeatedly over the last few months. But that name sure will come in handy to make money from over the next few years. Really? Can't you say something nice? |
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Post by gramasue on Jun 7, 2021 12:46:43 GMT
Congratulations to them! The names are a sweet nod to Harry's Mum and Grandmother. I also love the nickname "Lili". I wish them nothing but happiness.
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Post by pjaye on Jun 7, 2021 12:55:36 GMT
Desperately trying to make sure they stay in the Queens's good books (and her will) before she dies - despite the hurt they must have caused her by denigrating the Royal Family as a whole repeatedly over the last few months. But that name sure will come in handy to make money from over the next few years. Really? Can't you say something nice? Have you not been paying attention to all the outright lies and horrible things they have been saying about the Royal family, their family? Harry & Meghan have been the ones not saying anything nice, they have VERY deliberately and very publicly complained about the Royal family and how racist they are & how badly they have both been treated for the entirety of this pregnancy, The Queen is the head of that family, and we are suddenly expected to buy into this as genuine tribute? Please. It's a manipulation to get just this response "ooohhh people are being mean about our baby" and continue to play into their victim mentality. If you have an issue with no being "nice" then look at Harry & Meghan first and what they have been saying about BOTH sides of their own families since they met. Things that have hurt real people in their lives. and if you think I'm off base about using the name to make money in the future...then why did they register the domain name Lilibetdiana.com on GoDaddy on the same day that she was born? |
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Post by moodyblue on Jun 7, 2021 14:25:18 GMT
Really? Can't you say something nice? and if you think I'm off base about using the name to make money in the future...then why did they register the domain name Lilibetdiana.com on GoDaddy on the same day that she was born? People do that to keep OTHER people from making use of their name whether it’s a business or personal name. There are people who register/buy up domains and then sell them off for an inflated price to the business or person who has that name. |
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Post by femalebusiness on Jun 7, 2021 16:16:53 GMT
Looking at genealogy sites when tracing my family tree , I had not realised just how many generations pass down the exact same name , it can get pretty confusing over 250 years or more. Yes and it can either make genealogy easier or a LOT more difficult. |
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Post by Bridget in MD on Jun 7, 2021 16:28:19 GMT
I think it'd be odd for 2 cousins to have the same middle name, if they were just random names. Being that it was the name of their beloved mother, I don't find it odd at all that both sons would want to use Diana. I have a friend (she is Greek not sure if that has anything to do with it) who named her baby Peter after her father. HER sister had a baby 14 years earlier - a boy they also named Peter. I thought it was strange that my friend would name her baby the same name as her sister’s son, even with the age difference. 🤷♀️ They are a close family so they are around each other a lot. |
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Jun 7, 2021 16:30:19 GMT
LOVE her name!
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jun 7, 2021 17:59:42 GMT
Can someone please save me from having to google and getting lost in the sea of official royal "rules", and explain to me what the difference is between "Diana, Princess of Wales" and "Diana, The Princess of Wales". To my uncouth American ears it's the same thing, but I guess not in England.  It’s the THE that is the defining word. The Princess of Wales is THE ONE. When Diana and Charles divorced she lost the “the”. Same with Sarah Ferguson. When married to Andrew she was Sarah, The Duchess of York. After the divorce she became Sarah, Duchess of York. There can be many Duchesses of York but there can only be one THE Duchess of York. |
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 7, 2021 18:10:23 GMT
totally off topic, but I have to comment on this: Story #2: *I* am that son of the son of the son of the son. My Americanized father said “Enough!” and named me the feminized form of the name.I just spent waaay too much time trying to think of what masculine name the name Amelia would come from... lol!! I think I need more caffeine.  |
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Post by lizacreates on Jun 7, 2021 18:17:39 GMT
totally off topic, but I have to comment on this: Story #2: *I* am that son of the son of the son of the son. My Americanized father said “Enough!” and named me the feminized form of the name.I just spent waaay too much time trying to think of what masculine name the name Amelia would come from... lol!! I think I need more caffeine.  I’m assuming her name is not Amelia. Amelia Bloomer was a women’s rights advocate. But maybe it is. AB should clarify! |
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 7, 2021 18:21:05 GMT
lizacreates : I know that her name isn't *really* Amelia Bloomer-- when I think about it, lol. I'm just so used to thinking of people here by their screen name, though... Like 'sharlag' instead of Sharla G, etc. haha. There's a lot more examples, I know- but Sharla is the first one that came to mind.
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I’m assuming her name is not Amelia. Amelia Bloomer was a women’s rights advocate. But maybe it is. AB should clarify!