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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 30, 2021 9:10:41 GMT
can you explain how you see it and why? She won’t. She’s a drop a turd and ditch the thread pea!  |
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Post by Bridget in MD on Aug 30, 2021 12:32:41 GMT
and walking away? It's not a secret that there is little, if any , support of Trump here. I don't want to rehash your opinion on answers, comments, etc. I'm honestly wondering if you remember a President frequently telling the press they have a list of people they call on and that they aren't supposed to answer. I find it odd behavior. I find turning around and walking out puzzling. Again, I am not seeking to start an attack this guy/the other guy thread. What do you think of how the press/communication is handled? And if you feel it's appropriate to not answer to prevent a "gotcha" or combative exchange, can you explain why the same questions the press posed of Trump (would have), Biden doesn't answer? LOL don't you do this all the time? Ask a question and never return with an update? |
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Post by hop2 on Aug 30, 2021 12:43:44 GMT
I’m more ok with the President not answering questions than I am with the President telling Ergodan where covert troops were operating.
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Post by Just T on Aug 30, 2021 12:51:26 GMT
OL don't you do this all the time? Ask a question and never return with an update? Yep, that is what she does, so I am not sure why I am bothering to respond. I just want to say that once again, I am gobsmacked at the level of criticism Trump lovers subject Biden to while seemingly forgetting what a shit show Trump's press conferences were. Good grief. How many times did he walk away without answering questions? Or like others have said, bully the reporters, call them "fake news," etc. It's truly mind boggling. And for the record, in this situation, yes, I am okay with Biden not answering questions about Afghanistan when he was giving a news conference about the devastating Hurricane. |
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Post by peasapie on Aug 30, 2021 13:11:18 GMT
Yes I am. The press will harass with ridiculous questions if allowed.
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Post by rainangel on Aug 30, 2021 14:46:11 GMT
I am late to this thread, have not read all the answers and barely know what specific incident this is aimed at.
But I thought it was common practice for any and all previous presidents to have some control over what questions would be asked during press briefings?
And most information the president is privy to would be closely guarded and not released to the press, unless circumstances makes it necessary?
How the hell could anyone be a president and run a country if EVERYTHING they said, did and learned on the job was transparent?
Am I the only one not surprised by a president keeping certain things from the public? I am pretty damn sure there was a LOT that happened during any wars the US were involved with that the public was not informed in detail about.
Am I missing something?
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Post by used2scrap on Aug 30, 2021 14:56:38 GMT
I am late to this thread, have not read all the answers and barely know what specific incident this is aimed at. But I thought it was common practice for any and all previous presidents to have some control over what questions would be asked during press briefings? And most information the president is privy to would be closely guarded and not released to the press, unless circumstances makes it necessary? How the hell could anyone be a president and run a country if EVERYTHING they said, did and learned on the job was transparent? Am I the only one not surprised by a president keeping certain things from the public? I am pretty damn sure there was a LOT that happened during any wars the US were involved with that the public was not informed in detail about. Am I missing something? Not to mention he’d been at Dover then with FEMA, so I’d imagine he would want a current real time update on the situation in Afghanistan before answering questions. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 30, 2021 15:08:07 GMT
I’m ok with how he has been doing press conferences, and the frequency.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Aug 30, 2021 15:11:35 GMT
I'm fine with it. Shows more class than throwing a roll of paper towels at the problem and saying that Louisiana caused their own hurricanes.
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Post by scorpeao on Aug 30, 2021 15:13:47 GMT
I prefer it over personal attacks on the reporters asking the questions.
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Post by Mel on Aug 30, 2021 16:32:35 GMT
I think anything that Biden does when it comes to press is better than tRump. At least Biden doesn't get in front of the cameras and belittle, intimidate, and babble. Nothing TFG ever said was true, and if it was it was to make him or his pathetic family look better.
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Post by spottiedottie on Aug 30, 2021 16:43:25 GMT
I find the lengths people will go to defend and justify Joe Biden's incompetence mind boggling.
He has mentioned on numerous occasions things like "I've been instructed..." or "I'll get in trouble if I do/say this...". I find it extremely alarming that someone else is telling him what to do and say. I can't imagine any other president accepting someone else controlling them, much less admitting it publicly. And the argument that that's the way they did on the West Wing? PLEASE be realistic. This is not a tv show! Can you even imagine Clinton or Obama saying something similar??? Both of them were very much in control of their White House and would NEVER allow anything to slip out that might make them look bad, much less putting it out there themselves. The fact that Joe sees nothing wrong with it says a lot.
Also, Presidents hold press briefings about topic A and the press asks questions about topic B, C, and D EVERY DAY. You all are like "he wants to talk about Ida and a reporter dared ask about something else??? The horror!!" Get real. I remember Bill Clinton being desperate to talk about anything else in 1998 but all he ever got asked about was Monica Lewinsky. The same is true for every other president. The press has always asked about what they are interested in, with no regard for what the president wants to talk about.
Donald Trump's handling of the media has no bearing whatsoever on Joe Biden's handling of the media, just like Ronald Reagan's or George Bush's handling of the media has no bearing on Biden's handling of the media. Biden is responsible for himself and constantly pointing fingers at someone else you think was worse does not bolster your argument that everything is fine with Biden.
I'm not a fan of Trump so spare me the insults about Trump supporters. The concerns about Biden's competency are real. Open your eyes and stop letting your hatred of Trump blind you to the reality we are facing with this president.
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Post by Merge on Aug 30, 2021 16:55:30 GMT
I find the lengths people will go to defend and justify Joe Biden's incompetence mind boggling. He has mentioned on numerous occasions things like "I've been instructed..." or "I'll get in trouble if I do/say this...". I find it extremely alarming that someone else is telling him what to do and say. I can't imagine any other president accepting someone else controlling them, much less admitting it publicly. And the argument that that's the way they did on the West Wing? PLEASE be realistic. This is not a tv show! Can you even imagine Clinton or Obama saying something similar??? Both of them were very much in control of their White House and would NEVER allow anything to slip out that might make them look bad, much less putting it out there themselves. The fact that Joe sees nothing wrong with it says a lot. Also, Presidents hold press briefings about topic A and the press asks questions about topic B, C, and D EVERY DAY. You all are like "he wants to talk about Ida and a reporter dared ask about something else??? The horror!!" Get real. I remember Bill Clinton being desperate to talk about anything else in 1998 but all he ever got asked about was Monica Lewinsky. The same is true for every other president. The press has always asked about what they are interested in, with no regard for what the president wants to talk about. Donald Trump's handling of the media has no bearing whatsoever on Joe Biden's handling of the media, just like Ronald Reagan's or George Bush's handling of the media has no bearing on Biden's handling of the media. Biden is responsible for himself and constantly pointing fingers at someone else you think was worse does not bolster your argument that everything is fine with Biden. I'm not a fan of Trump so spare me the insults about Trump supporters. The concerns about Biden's competency are real. Open your eyes and stop letting your hatred of Trump blind you to the reality we are facing with this president. The west wing reference was a joke, and meant to point out that none of us here is an expert (as far as I know) on presidential media relations. I have some experience in PR from way back and do know that getting the person being questioned to stay on message is paramount. As for Biden’s supposed incompetency, eh. Don’t agree. He is at least competent enough to know when to rely on an advisor rather than trying to control everything himself, and he is competent enough to choose knowledgeable and experienced advisors. In that, he is leaps and bounds more competent than his predecessor. He’s probably more competent than George Bush, who got us into this mess in the first place. (I was a Warren supporter because I think she’s smarter and a better leader than Joe Biden, but people are afraid of an assertive woman being president, so …) Americans are way more concerned with electing someone who is likeable than they are with electing someone who is smart, so we shouldn’t be surprised when Biden is the outcome. |
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Post by bc2ca on Aug 30, 2021 17:08:12 GMT
He has mentioned on numerous occasions things like "I've been instructed..." or "I'll get in trouble if I do/say this...". I find it extremely alarming that someone else is telling him what to do and say. For reals? You find it alarming that the president isn't afraid to be candid? That he listens to experts? I have all the love for Jen Psaki. What a breath of fresh air to have an intelligent and articulate press secretary. |
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Post by gar on Aug 30, 2021 17:11:08 GMT
He has mentioned on numerous occasions things like "I've been instructed..." or "I'll get in trouble if I do/say this...". I find it extremely alarming that someone else is telling him what to do and say. For reals? You find it alarming that the president isn't afraid to be candid? That he listens to experts? I have all the love for Jen Psaki. What a breath of fresh air to have an intelligent and articulate press secretary. No kidding! 😁 We saw where NOT listening to experts got your former guy, and subsequently, your country!! |
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Post by pinklady on Aug 30, 2021 17:12:20 GMT
I find the lengths people will go to defend and justify Joe Biden's incompetence mind boggling. He has mentioned on numerous occasions things like "I've been instructed..." or "I'll get in trouble if I do/say this...". I find it extremely alarming that someone else is telling him what to do and say. I can't imagine any other president accepting someone else controlling them, much less admitting it publicly. And the argument that that's the way they did on the West Wing? PLEASE be realistic. This is not a tv show! Can you even imagine Clinton or Obama saying something similar??? Both of them were very much in control of their White House and would NEVER allow anything to slip out that might make them look bad, much less putting it out there themselves. The fact that Joe sees nothing wrong with it says a lot. Also, Presidents hold press briefings about topic A and the press asks questions about topic B, C, and D EVERY DAY. You all are like "he wants to talk about Ida and a reporter dared ask about something else??? The horror!!" Get real. I remember Bill Clinton being desperate to talk about anything else in 1998 but all he ever got asked about was Monica Lewinsky. The same is true for every other president. The press has always asked about what they are interested in, with no regard for what the president wants to talk about. Donald Trump's handling of the media has no bearing whatsoever on Joe Biden's handling of the media, just like Ronald Reagan's or George Bush's handling of the media has no bearing on Biden's handling of the media. Biden is responsible for himself and constantly pointing fingers at someone else you think was worse does not bolster your argument that everything is fine with Biden. I'm not a fan of Trump so spare me the insults about Trump supporters. The concerns about Biden's competency are real. Open your eyes and stop letting your hatred of Trump blind you to the reality we are facing with this president. I find YOUR ignorance mind boggling. |
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Post by Just T on Aug 30, 2021 17:26:45 GMT
Donald Trump's handling of the media has no bearing whatsoever on Joe Biden's handling of the media Normally, in normal times, I would agree with you. What I find mindboggling is people who were/are okay with the way Trump treated the press and press conferences for 4 years, even during the early days and months of a freaking pandemic, okay with the bullying, the calling names, the stalking off without taking questions, those people are now some of Biden's biggest critics. And Biden has done nothing like Trump did. When have you seen Biden call anyone a name, or tell someone "I'm not answering you because you are FAKE MEDIA!!" Also, I am NOT Biden's biggest fan, as I have said before. In the pool of all the candidates, he was second from the bottom choice for me, just ahead of Bernie Sanders. But I still think he is a million times a million better than Trump and his bullshit lying press secretaries. |
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Post by Just T on Aug 30, 2021 17:27:43 GMT
I have all the love for Jen Psaki. What a breath of fresh air to have an intelligent and articulate press secretary. Me too. Before I even read your post, I started to write that I find her a breath of fresh air. <3 |
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Post by pierogi on Aug 30, 2021 17:35:11 GMT
I’m more ok with the President not answering questions than I am with the President telling Ergodan where covert troops were operating. Boom. I'm thrilled that we have a president who doesn't refer to American troops as "suckers and losers." |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2021 17:40:47 GMT
Based on my extensive knowledge watching The West Wing, it’s common for the press secretary to give the president directions about what to answer, how to answer, and who to call on. 😂 This is what I love about the Peas! |
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Post by maryannscraps on Aug 30, 2021 17:57:43 GMT
I find the lengths people will go to defend and justify Joe Biden's incompetence mind boggling. He has mentioned on numerous occasions things like "I've been instructed..." or "I'll get in trouble if I do/say this...". I find it extremely alarming that someone else is telling him what to do and say. I can't imagine any other president accepting someone else controlling them, much less admitting it publicly. And the argument that that's the way they did on the West Wing? PLEASE be realistic. This is not a tv show! Can you even imagine Clinton or Obama saying something similar??? Both of them were very much in control of their White House and would NEVER allow anything to slip out that might make them look bad, much less putting it out there themselves. The fact that Joe sees nothing wrong with it says a lot. Also, Presidents hold press briefings about topic A and the press asks questions about topic B, C, and D EVERY DAY. You all are like "he wants to talk about Ida and a reporter dared ask about something else??? The horror!!" Get real. I remember Bill Clinton being desperate to talk about anything else in 1998 but all he ever got asked about was Monica Lewinsky. The same is true for every other president. The press has always asked about what they are interested in, with no regard for what the president wants to talk about. Donald Trump's handling of the media has no bearing whatsoever on Joe Biden's handling of the media, just like Ronald Reagan's or George Bush's handling of the media has no bearing on Biden's handling of the media. Biden is responsible for himself and constantly pointing fingers at someone else you think was worse does not bolster your argument that everything is fine with Biden. I'm not a fan of Trump so spare me the insults about Trump supporters. The concerns about Biden's competency are real. Open your eyes and stop letting your hatred of Trump blind you to the reality we are facing with this president. I don’t care if the press asks, and I’m fine with Biden sticking to topic and not answering. The OP was outraged that he didn’t answer. I’m not. |
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Post by J u l e e on Aug 30, 2021 17:58:37 GMT
And the argument that that's the way they did on the West Wing? PLEASE be realistic. This is not a tv show! I’m giggling myself silly over this. Glad you pointed that out to Merge  |
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Post by papersilly on Aug 30, 2021 18:03:34 GMT
i'm more alright with than than Trump staying to answer questions and then lying with his answers. i'll take temporary silence over lying any day.
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 30, 2021 18:08:43 GMT
I find the lengths people will go to defend and justify Joe Biden's incompetence mind boggling. He has mentioned on numerous occasions things like "I've been instructed..." or "I'll get in trouble if I do/say this...". I find it extremely alarming that someone else is telling him what to do and say. I can't imagine any other president accepting someone else controlling them, much less admitting it publicly. And the argument that that's the way they did on the West Wing? PLEASE be realistic. This is not a tv show! Can you even imagine Clinton or Obama saying something similar??? Both of them were very much in control of their White House and would NEVER allow anything to slip out that might make them look bad, much less putting it out there themselves. The fact that Joe sees nothing wrong with it says a lot. Also, Presidents hold press briefings about topic A and the press asks questions about topic B, C, and D EVERY DAY. You all are like "he wants to talk about Ida and a reporter dared ask about something else??? The horror!!" Get real. I remember Bill Clinton being desperate to talk about anything else in 1998 but all he ever got asked about was Monica Lewinsky. The same is true for every other president. The press has always asked about what they are interested in, with no regard for what the president wants to talk about. Donald Trump's handling of the media has no bearing whatsoever on Joe Biden's handling of the media, just like Ronald Reagan's or George Bush's handling of the media has no bearing on Biden's handling of the media. Biden is responsible for himself and constantly pointing fingers at someone else you think was worse does not bolster your argument that everything is fine with Biden. I'm not a fan of Trump so spare me the insults about Trump supporters. The concerns about Biden's competency are real. Open your eyes and stop letting your hatred of Trump blind you to the reality we are facing with this president. I’ll give you this; you echoed all of the RW media talking points perfectly. Good job, you. 🙄 |
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Post by lindas on Aug 30, 2021 18:32:11 GMT
I find the lengths people will go to defend and justify Joe Biden's incompetence mind boggling. He has mentioned on numerous occasions things like "I've been instructed..." or "I'll get in trouble if I do/say this...". I find it extremely alarming that someone else is telling him what to do and say. I can't imagine any other president accepting someone else controlling them, much less admitting it publicly. And the argument that that's the way they did on the West Wing? PLEASE be realistic. This is not a tv show! Can you even imagine Clinton or Obama saying something similar??? Both of them were very much in control of their White House and would NEVER allow anything to slip out that might make them look bad, much less putting it out there themselves. The fact that Joe sees nothing wrong with it says a lot. Also, Presidents hold press briefings about topic A and the press asks questions about topic B, C, and D EVERY DAY. You all are like "he wants to talk about Ida and a reporter dared ask about something else??? The horror!!" Get real. I remember Bill Clinton being desperate to talk about anything else in 1998 but all he ever got asked about was Monica Lewinsky. The same is true for every other president. The press has always asked about what they are interested in, with no regard for what the president wants to talk about. Donald Trump's handling of the media has no bearing whatsoever on Joe Biden's handling of the media, just like Ronald Reagan's or George Bush's handling of the media has no bearing on Biden's handling of the media. Biden is responsible for himself and constantly pointing fingers at someone else you think was worse does not bolster your argument that everything is fine with Biden. I'm not a fan of Trump so spare me the insults about Trump supporters. The concerns about Biden's competency are real. Open your eyes and stop letting your hatred of Trump blind you to the reality we are facing with this president. The west wing reference was a joke, and meant to point out that none of us here is an expert (as far as I know) on presidential media relations. I have some experience in PR from way back and do know that getting the person being questioned to stay on message is paramount. As for Biden’s supposed incompetency, eh. Don’t agree. He is at least competent enough to know when to rely on an advisor rather than trying to control everything himself, and he is competent enough to choose knowledgeable and experienced advisors. In that, he is leaps and bounds more competent than his predecessor. He’s probably more competent than George Bush, who got us into this mess in the first place.(I was a Warren supporter because I think she’s smarter and a better leader than Joe Biden, but people are afraid of an assertive woman being president, so …) Americans are way more concerned with electing someone who is likeable than they are with electing someone who is smart, so we shouldn’t be surprised when Biden is the outcome. Sorry to go off topic but since you brought up Bush I’m like to know what you think he should have done after we were attacked on 9/11. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2021 18:34:17 GMT
I find the lengths people will go to defend and justify Joe Biden's incompetence mind boggling. He has mentioned on numerous occasions things like "I've been instructed..." or "I'll get in trouble if I do/say this...". I find it extremely alarming that someone else is telling him what to do and say. I can't imagine any other president accepting someone else controlling them, much less admitting it publicly. And the argument that that's the way they did on the West Wing? PLEASE be realistic. This is not a tv show! Can you even imagine Clinton or Obama saying something similar??? Both of them were very much in control of their White House and would NEVER allow anything to slip out that might make them look bad, much less putting it out there themselves. The fact that Joe sees nothing wrong with it says a lot. Also, Presidents hold press briefings about topic A and the press asks questions about topic B, C, and D EVERY DAY. You all are like "he wants to talk about Ida and a reporter dared ask about something else??? The horror!!" Get real. I remember Bill Clinton being desperate to talk about anything else in 1998 but all he ever got asked about was Monica Lewinsky. The same is true for every other president. The press has always asked about what they are interested in, with no regard for what the president wants to talk about. Donald Trump's handling of the media has no bearing whatsoever on Joe Biden's handling of the media, just like Ronald Reagan's or George Bush's handling of the media has no bearing on Biden's handling of the media. Biden is responsible for himself and constantly pointing fingers at someone else you think was worse does not bolster your argument that everything is fine with Biden. I'm not a fan of Trump so spare me the insults about Trump supporters. The concerns about Biden's competency are real. Open your eyes and stop letting your hatred of Trump blind you to the reality we are facing with this president. It's rather telling that only the trumpets are liking your post. |
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 30, 2021 18:43:50 GMT
The west wing reference was a joke, and meant to point out that none of us here is an expert (as far as I know) on presidential media relations. I have some experience in PR from way back and do know that getting the person being questioned to stay on message is paramount. As for Biden’s supposed incompetency, eh. Don’t agree. He is at least competent enough to know when to rely on an advisor rather than trying to control everything himself, and he is competent enough to choose knowledgeable and experienced advisors. In that, he is leaps and bounds more competent than his predecessor. He’s probably more competent than George Bush, who got us into this mess in the first place.(I was a Warren supporter because I think she’s smarter and a better leader than Joe Biden, but people are afraid of an assertive woman being president, so …) Americans are way more concerned with electing someone who is likeable than they are with electing someone who is smart, so we shouldn’t be surprised when Biden is the outcome. Sorry to go off topic but since you brought up Bush I’m like to know what you think he should have done after we were attacked on 9/11. Simple, stay out of Iraq. Unlike some I never had a problem with Bush going into Afghanistan to get bin Laden and the Taliban. You can’t do an attack like 9/11 and expect this country to shrug and say “oh well”. But the minute Bush went into Iraq everything started to go south. |
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Post by spottiedottie on Aug 30, 2021 19:08:41 GMT
I’m more ok with the President not answering questions than I am with the President telling Ergodan where covert troops were operating. Boom. I'm thrilled that we have a president who doesn't refer to American troops as "suckers and losers." If you are referring to the president of Turkey his name is ERDOGAN. |
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Post by pinklady on Aug 30, 2021 19:09:12 GMT
The west wing reference was a joke, and meant to point out that none of us here is an expert (as far as I know) on presidential media relations. I have some experience in PR from way back and do know that getting the person being questioned to stay on message is paramount. As for Biden’s supposed incompetency, eh. Don’t agree. He is at least competent enough to know when to rely on an advisor rather than trying to control everything himself, and he is competent enough to choose knowledgeable and experienced advisors. In that, he is leaps and bounds more competent than his predecessor. He’s probably more competent than George Bush, who got us into this mess in the first place.(I was a Warren supporter because I think she’s smarter and a better leader than Joe Biden, but people are afraid of an assertive woman being president, so …) Americans are way more concerned with electing someone who is likeable than they are with electing someone who is smart, so we shouldn’t be surprised when Biden is the outcome. Sorry to go off topic but since you brought up Bush I’m like to know what you think he should have done after we were attacked on 9/11. Not invading a sovereign nation would have been a start. Not lying about "weapons of mass destruction". Not done his "mission accomplished" victory lap. |
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Post by hop2 on Aug 30, 2021 19:35:30 GMT
I’m more ok with the President not answering questions than I am with the President telling Ergodan where covert troops were operating. Boom. I'm thrilled that we have a president who doesn't refer to American troops as "suckers and losers." I thought the OP was about the Afghanistan press conf, and there’s quite a bit about Afghanistan that can’t be or shouldn’t be public right yet. So yeah, I’m ok with the President not taking questions. There’ll be time for answers later when troop movements are not covert or classified. Unfortunately much of this mess is because Trump negotiated with the Taliban thus giving them the legitimacy equal or greater than the Afghan government and that genie can’t be stuffed back in the bottle, in 6 months by a new administration. |
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