breetheflea
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Post by breetheflea on Nov 21, 2014 17:03:26 GMT
He has a chore to do, and has for the past 10 years. Every Wednesday night it's taking the trash and recycling to the curb. Every Wednesday night he hands the job off to the kids and then complains orgets grumpy when they don't do it right (leave a trail of trash across the yard or in the driveway). I guess I should be happy he remembers to do it, for about 5 years I'd get an email every Thursday morning, "sorry I forgot to take the trash out..."
I swear every chore I ask DH to do he hands it off to the kids. Loading the dishwasher, cleaning off the table, putting away laundry. Then the kids slack off or do half the job, then DH gets grumpy when he finds the mess (laundry sitting on the stairs) later because he assigned the chore to the kids but doesn't supervise.
I think I'm just having a bad morning, DH and the oldest (who is 9) had an argument yesterday and DH threatened to cancel the 9 year olds birthday and Christmas... He won't follow through but it has made everyone in the house in a bad mood this morning.
Pardon my vent... it's been a long week.
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Post by grinningcat on Nov 21, 2014 17:06:18 GMT
That would make me grumpy too. Is there a reason why he passes the buck?
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Post by happymomma on Nov 21, 2014 17:09:42 GMT
I don't see anything wrong with having the kids do the chores and if they do them carelessly or do a half-assed job, having them go back and do it right. Most kids these days are well-rewarded and I admire those parents that teach them to work for things.
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breetheflea
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Post by breetheflea on Nov 21, 2014 17:14:43 GMT
I don't know why he hands the chores off, probably because he doesn't want to do them? He used to be a manager at work, maybe that has something to do with it?
I don't ask him to do a lot of stuff around the house, but the only things he will do without pawning it off on the kids are projects (like building stuff or fixing broken things) anything cleaning related, good luck.
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Post by breetheflea on Nov 21, 2014 17:17:06 GMT
The problem with making the kids redo it, is since he doesn't check their work, I find the trash all over the yard the next day or after they go to bed. I give him a chore, he gives it to the kids, the kids do it wrong, then I have to clean it up . I might as well have just done the chore myself.
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Post by LauraTen on Nov 21, 2014 17:17:48 GMT
I hear you!! Guys don't like being told what to do...
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Post by joylynaroundthebnd on Nov 21, 2014 17:22:06 GMT
We don't have kids, but about a year ago DH told me when I wanted the trash taken out just let him know. Really?!?!? A grown 50 year old man, who has always taken out the trash, wants to be told when to do it? Now, when it gets full, he keeps packing stuff in it. I ask him to take it out and he does, but why does he have to be told? (Rhetorical question) My vent over.
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Post by perumbula on Nov 21, 2014 17:44:33 GMT
My dh is great about helping around the house, but I do hate how I have to ask him to take out the trash. If I say "the garbage can is full." He says I'm "hinting." I'm supposed to say "Please take out the garbage." Makes me so crazy. How am I hinting when I'm telling you your job needs done that I shouldn't have to tell you in the first place. It's really annoying when the 16 year old thinks he needs in on the debate and takes his dad's side.
When he comes home from work and dinner's not ready he doesn't say "hey, please cook dinner." He says "what's for dinner?" so maybe I'm not the only one around here who uses "hints."
Just do it, buddy, and then we don't have to worry about whether I'm phrasing it right.
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Post by likescarrots on Nov 21, 2014 17:46:53 GMT
I hear you!! Guys don't like being told what to do... Do women like being told what to do? I know I don't.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Nov 21, 2014 17:47:45 GMT
The obvious answer (to me, anyway) would be for YOU to teach the kids how to do those chores yourself. Yes, it will take a little more time at first on your part to supervise and/or check up on them but in the long run it will save you time and frustration to just tell THEM what you want done and let them do it right the first time instead of telling DH, having him tell them, and having it end up back in your lap. While this doesn't address your issues with DH, at least it will be teaching your kids valuable life skills and lessening your own frustration somewhat in the process. I would also make a point to let DH KNOW that you are taking on the extra effort to teach the kids how to do the tasks he hands off, and tell him that you would really appreciate any help he could offer!
Growing up we all had plenty of age appropriate chores to do, and if we didn't do something right the first time we got the privilege of doing it again (and in my brother's case, again and again and AGAIN! as necessary LOL) until we got it right. Mom or dad would show us the right way, then let us have at it. And we didn't get any allowance or anything either, imagine that. Most kids that I personally know could use a little more responsibility and a little less entitlement.
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Post by anxiousmom on Nov 21, 2014 17:51:40 GMT
I hear you!! Guys don't like being told what to do... Do women like being told what to do? I know I don't. I had a friend years ago who had a theory about relationships and husbands and married life...she said that when she acted like a mother (telling her husband what to do when it came to chores) she was treated like a mother. When she acted like a maid (doing all the cleaning and cooking) she was treated like a maid. But she she acted like a partner, then she was treated like a partner. In other words, no likes being told what to do, and they can be passively aggressive in their responses. Maybe asking rather than assigning would get a better response?
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Post by cmpeter on Nov 21, 2014 18:50:43 GMT
No, but I also don't assign chores to my dh. He just does the things that need to be done on his own. The kids have their chores and we both stay on top of them to make sure they are done.
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Post by flopsykitty on Nov 21, 2014 18:51:32 GMT
I find that giving ample praise after a job is done gets a great response. Sure, it may sound silly and childish to have to go overboard on the "thank you"s after DH has taken out the trash, but for me, its all in HOW you ask for help.
Instead of "The garbage is full", I might say, "Hey, babe? Could you do me a favor and please take the garbage out? It's pretty full.", and after he has done it, "Thanks, hon, I appreciate the help."
Yes, they should be able to see that the garbage is full and be able to take it out without prompting, but I have two hands, I could take it out myself if I need to. It's nice when he does it for us.
To be fair, he always thanks me for when I do chores as well (make dinner, clean the bathrooms, vacuum, etc.) We both recognize that we BOTH benefit when the chores are completed.
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Post by justkat on Nov 21, 2014 18:53:48 GMT
No. But probably only because we don't have children. lol What mine does instead is attempt to watch tv while he's doing anything and everything. As a result he turns a 5 min chore into an hour long event. Afterwards he'll complain that everything I ask him to do takes forever to get done.
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Post by scrapqueen01 on Nov 21, 2014 19:07:28 GMT
*Raises hand* Dh and I have been married 15 years and lived in the same house. Garbage day has always been on Wednesday. If I don't remind dh he will forget every time. When I do remind him he gets snotty like a teenager. When he forgets I have dd do it since I'm disabled. I've been disabled my whole life and need help. It's not like dh didn't know this when he married me.
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Post by bc2ca on Nov 21, 2014 19:09:01 GMT
Do women like being told what to do? I know I don't. I had a friend years ago who had a theory about relationships and husbands and married life...she said that when she acted like a mother (telling her husband what to do when it came to chores) she was treated like a mother. When she acted like a maid (doing all the cleaning and cooking) she was treated like a maid. But she she acted like a partner, then she was treated like a partner. In other words, no likes being told what to do, and they can be passively aggressive in their responses. Maybe asking rather than assigning would get a better response? Honestly, I can't imagine assigning DH a chore. I also can't imagine complaining about him delegating a chore to the kids?! I would have been a little indignant if he objected when I decided to have the kids start doing the after dinner clean up and dishes, something I had traditional done. Taking the garbage cans to the curb (and making sure all the garbage and recyclables are out of the house) has been a kid chore for as long as they have been able to push the cans.
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Post by Kerri W on Nov 21, 2014 19:10:19 GMT
The problem with making the kids redo it, is since he doesn't check their work, I find the trash all over the yard the next day or after they go to bed. I give him a chore, he gives it to the kids, the kids do it wrong, then I have to clean it up . I might as well have just done the chore myself. No, you don't have to clean it up. Tell the kids to do it.
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Post by breetheflea on Nov 21, 2014 19:38:10 GMT
I'm not standing over him saying "unload the dishwasher right now or else". I'm also not assigning him chores. I will say something like "the kitchen is really messy can you help me clean it up?" I'll do my part or have already done my part, he'll assign his part to the kids.
The trash, yes the kids can do it, they don't like taking the cans out because that side of the house (garage) doesn't have a light and the cans (especially the one for yard waste) can get heavy.
I will try a different approach, and see if that helps...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 19:47:44 GMT
Sounds like it might be time for a meeting of minds between you and DH (in a calm moment out of the current situation). Then you need to decide which chores you want to start assigning directly to the kid(s). Once you are on the same page, it will help. Because it sounds like you aren't right now since you defend the kids (lights and weight). Do your cans have wheels? If not, maybe buy some smaller ones or ones the same size that can be wheeled rather than carried?
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Post by breetheflea on Nov 21, 2014 19:56:09 GMT
The cans are assigned by the trash company they come in one size only. They have two wheels but are tall so you kind of tip them back to get them to move. Yes we need to have a talk or a family meeting or something. Ugh.
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Post by ReneeH20 on Nov 22, 2014 1:12:55 GMT
I don't have that problem. My DH takes out the trash from the house and then takes it out on trash day. What totally boggles my mind is that I have a laundry basket for dirty clothes at the end of the bed toward his side. He will take off his clothes and they land literally right next to the basket on the floor. I mean really? Nope. The only time he hits the basket with dirty clothes is when I load up a basket of clean clothes and don't have time to put them away. Then he hits the basket every single time. Can't win. 
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Post by maryland on Nov 22, 2014 1:20:46 GMT
We have three girls, so we expect them to do many of the chores - shovel snow, mow lawn, take out trash, put dirty clothes in clothes hamper, and take a shower every night (yes, I did say we have to remind them too!). But my husband and I will take the trash down the curb on trash day (we have 2 lg. reg. trash containers, 1 lg. recycling container and yard waste). When one of us is out and the driveway is empty, it's much easier to do it then.
My husband works and I am a sahm, so I do most of the housework/cooking. I also take the trash outside to the bins every day because we are always filling up the large trash can! The dog gets so excited when she sees be take out the trash bag because she knows she gets to go out with me to put it in the trash can! No fun when it's 14 degrees like it's been this week! The kids are older (11, 15 and 17) so they have a lot of chores.
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Post by librarylady on Nov 22, 2014 2:32:40 GMT
Perhaps it is time for a family meeting. At the meeting, talk to husband and children and say you are feeling *taken advantage of *being made the bad guy * etc.etc. Then list all the chores that have to be done to keep the household going...be very basic and thorough. (Mentally make your list ahead of time)
Check the ones you are willing to do. Ask the rest of the family which ones they are willing to do to keep the household working. Force yourself not to say who is doing what. Everyone initials the chores they are willing to do.
The chores left over are then designated "Everyone does these." And set a specific time that EVERYONE will complete these tasks.
End by saying that the family will try this for 2 months and then revisit the chore list. At that time, some family members might want to rotate/change chores.
Obviously, "driving kids to school or sports' or "shop for groceries" etc. will fall on the two adults.
Try it, it might make everyone feel better.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Nov 22, 2014 3:17:02 GMT
never assigned a chore to a grown ass man. I'm not his mother. if the kids mess up getting trash to the curb make them go out and fix it immediately. they'll figure out soon enough mom's not fixing it, they are and they'll start doing it right the first time.
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Nov 22, 2014 3:38:17 GMT
My dh is great about helping around the house, but I do hate how I have to ask him to take out the trash. If I say "the garbage can is full." He says I'm "hinting." I'm supposed to say "Please take out the garbage." Makes me so crazy. I wouldn't respond to that, either. It's passive-aggressive and I hate that. It's a sure-fire way to make me mad. I find "what's for dinner?" to be a far more tolerable question. For one thing, I assume you're cooking dinner every night. For another thing, it has an answer: "Porkchops." It doesn't necessarily mean "Hey, cook dinner now." But the immediate response to "the garbage can is full" is "Yes, yes it is."
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Post by crazy4scraps on Nov 22, 2014 3:57:26 GMT
What totally boggles my mind is that I have a laundry basket for dirty clothes at the end of the bed toward his side. He will take off his clothes and they land literally right next to the basket on the floor. I mean really? Nope. Ha ha, THIS! We have three laundry baskets in our closet for dirty laundry. One for whites, one for reds, one for jeans/darks. We've had this same system for over 25 years so it's nothing new or difficult. Every day, and I do mean EVERY day, DH drops his dirty clothes on the floor NEXT to the baskets. I don't understand this. It isn't any harder to drop the items into a basket than it does to drop them on the floor, so WHY? 
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Post by perumbula on Nov 22, 2014 4:07:23 GMT
My dh is great about helping around the house, but I do hate how I have to ask him to take out the trash. If I say "the garbage can is full." He says I'm "hinting." I'm supposed to say "Please take out the garbage." Makes me so crazy. I wouldn't respond to that, either. It's passive-aggressive and I hate that. It's a sure-fire way to make me mad. I find "what's for dinner?" to be a far more tolerable question. For one thing, I assume you're cooking dinner every night. For another thing, it has an answer: "Porkchops." It doesn't necessarily mean "Hey, cook dinner now." But the immediate response to "the garbage can is full" is "Yes, yes it is." Nope. Sorry. Passive aggressive is when you've had the same household job for twenty years and you know what it is but still ignoring the situation until the garbage is falling on the floor waiting for me to "ask right." Then when I don't ask correctly putting up a fuss about it because you want me to say exactly right words. That's passive aggressive BS.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Nov 22, 2014 4:17:55 GMT
my response to "What's for dinner?" is "I don't know, what did you make?". I get home after everyone. if they want to eat when I get home I assume dinner was cooked in the 3 hours everyone was home before me. if no dinner made I make myself some toast with cheese. they have learned...
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Post by AussieMeg on Nov 22, 2014 4:41:01 GMT
No, but I also don't assign chores to my dh. He just does the things that need to be done on his own. The kids have their chores and we both stay on top of them to make sure they are done. Yeah that. On Sunday night when the bins have to go out, whoever thinks of it first will take it out to the kerb. We don't have set chores. Likewise, when DSO gets tired of seeing the ironing pile up, he caves in and does it (including mine!) Ha, perhaps he's on the male version of 2 Peas Refugees right now venting about how his partner never does the ironing!!
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Post by eebud on Nov 22, 2014 4:52:48 GMT
No, but I also don't assign chores to my dh. He just does the things that need to be done on his own. The kids have their chores and we both stay on top of them to make sure they are done. Ditto that. We are empty nesters so no kids to assign chores to. When it comes to taking trash out, he does it probably 80-90% of the time. He usually takes it out in the morning. All I ask is that when he takes it out, he put an empty bag on top so that it is obvious there isn't a liner in the trash can. He usually grabs the bag on his way out the door so I am fine with replacing the clean bag when I get into the kitchen.
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