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Post by elaine on Oct 8, 2021 0:09:07 GMT
OJ Simpson was in the mid-90’s - we had AOL; nothing like we have now in terms of social media, but I definitely saw a ton of coverage and talked about it a lot. Yes I know very well when O.J. Simpson's trial and everything that preceded it took place. It was just 2 years after I left my ex who was abusive. The reason I wrote the 1970's was because I wanted to go back to a time when we didn't have home computers in our homes and when we talked about trials, cases etc. we were forced to talk to only our friends and family about it because social media didn't exist. Both things didn't necessarily have to happen at the same time. If we do want to talk about it happening at the same time then yeah, during OJ Simpson's trial and the time preceding, we didn't have nearly the amount of social media that there is today. According to Google social media started in 1996. But I believe we had email before that so at least that was a way that we could communicate very quickly with others far away about cases like this instead of just using handwritten mail like we had to in the 1970's. I’m sorry, I misunderstood the point you were trying to make. Yes, in the 70’s our social circles were more limited and who we discussed cases like this with.
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Post by birukitty on Oct 8, 2021 0:11:20 GMT
Yes I know very well when O.J. Simpson's trial and everything that preceded it took place. It was just 2 years after I left my ex who was abusive. The reason I wrote the 1970's was because I wanted to go back to a time when we didn't have home computers in our homes and when we talked about trials, cases etc. we were forced to talk to only our friends and family about it because social media didn't exist. Both things didn't necessarily have to happen at the same time. If we do want to talk about it happening at the same time then yeah, during OJ Simpson's trial and the time preceding, we didn't have nearly the amount of social media that there is today. According to Google social media started in 1996. But I believe we had email before that so at least that was a way that we could communicate very quickly with others far away about cases like this instead of just using handwritten mail like we had to in the 1970's. I’m sorry, I misunderstood the point you were trying to make. Yes, in the 70’s our social circles were more limited and who we discussed cases like this with. And I'm sorry I said, "Yes I know very well..." It sounds like a slap on the hand and it wasn't meant to be that at all. I do apologize. After I wrote it I realized how it sounded so I went back and edited it out. But I wanted to apologize to you.
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Post by elaine on Oct 8, 2021 0:14:29 GMT
Are you really asking this in sincerity? Do you understand how riots work? Are you going on record saying that the majority of people living in Minneapolis-St. Paul rioted and looted their city in May 2020? Or was it a small, yet violent minority? You do understand how large Los Angeles is, the diversity, and racial tensions? Especially given Rodney King. A relatively small number of Los Angelinos participated in those riots - compared to the city’s population - even though there was significant rioting and damage. The media coverage certainly was strongly biased - like it is now - against OJ. The public freeway chase, the bloody glove, the making fun of Kato Kaelin and his testimony, the making public the accusations of domestic abuse by OJ against Nicole, etc.; it was all covered in detail. I watched a LOT of coverage of that whole ordeal, along with my family and friends, and we discussed it as much as I talk about the Laundrie/Petito these days. I’m saying it makes no sense whatsoever for you to assert that no one was rooting for OJ and also that people would riot if he was found guilty. When the verdict came out, there was a huge crowd outside the courthouse *cheering*. For you to say no one was rooting for OJ is ridiculous and obviously false. Don’t misquote me. I said that no one I knew was rooting for OJ. Which is true. Not that no one at all was rooting for him. For you to claim otherwise is ridiculous and obviously false. There are some people rooting for Brian Laundrie too.
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Post by shessoaverage on Oct 8, 2021 0:28:27 GMT
When that happened, people were ROOTING for OJ. People were worried about riots if he was found guilty. That’s 100% the opposite of this situation. No one I knew was rooting for OJ. Even my family and all my friends in Los Angeles - many of my high school friends were still living there at the time. They were worried about riots - having lived through the Rodney King riots, but all were certain he was guilty; and none thought justice was served. Back when the OJ trial happened, I worked at a university. A bunch of us coworkers had walked a little off campus to a restaurant. When we finished, we were walking back by a block of dormitories and heard loud screaming and cheering out of the windows and off balconies. It was a little odd, because we had no idea what was going on. When we got back to the office, we learned that the “not guilty” verdict had been returned in the OJ Simpson case. So I know that there were at least a bunch of college students at our university who were rooting for OJ.
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Post by h2ohdog on Oct 8, 2021 2:00:37 GMT
Anyone who thinks Brian won’t get a fair trial doesn’t remember OJ Simpson and how the whole nation watched live on television how he tried to flee the authorities in the infamous White Bronco - along with evidence (bloody glove, anyone) - and he still was found Not Guilty. When that happened, people were ROOTING for OJ. People were worried about riots if he was found guilty. That’s 100% the opposite of this situation. No one I knew was rooting for OJ. We all thought he was a big celebrity and would be treated with kid gloves ( no pun intended). Our whole office ( in a big city) watched the verdict at work and walked away without saying a word because we were so disappointed. I don’t remember riots being talked about except for with Rodney King, which was a couple of years earlier. Edit to add: I guess this just shows how diverse the peas are and what different experiences we’ve had. I think most of us would agree that we’d like ti see BL caught soon.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2021 0:07:26 GMT
10/10/21 STILL waiting for BL to be found. This was so badly played out, from the beginning. I keep hoping he's alive and hiding somewhere where he'll be found (soon!), just so we could see him go to trial.
I read one Twitter post that said that his mom, Roberta, owned 3 other houses nearby their FL bungalow. I keep wondering if the FBI and police are checking every possible lead. I hope so!
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Post by tincin on Oct 11, 2021 4:30:22 GMT
Are you really asking this in sincerity? Do you understand how riots work? Are you going on record saying that the majority of people living in Minneapolis-St. Paul rioted and looted their city in May 2020? Or was it a small, yet violent minority? You do understand how large Los Angeles is, the diversity, and racial tensions? Especially given Rodney King. A relatively small number of Los Angelinos participated in those riots - compared to the city’s population - even though there was significant rioting and damage. The media coverage certainly was strongly biased - like it is now - against OJ. The public freeway chase, the bloody glove, the making fun of Kato Kaelin and his testimony, the making public the accusations of domestic abuse by OJ against Nicole, etc.; it was all covered in detail. I watched a LOT of coverage of that whole ordeal, along with my family and friends, and we discussed it as much as I talk about the Laundrie/Petito these days. I’m saying it makes no sense whatsoever for you to assert that no one was rooting for OJ and also that people would riot if he was found guilty. When the verdict came out, there was a huge crowd outside the courthouse *cheering*. For you to say no one was rooting for OJ is ridiculous and obviously false. She didn’t say nobody was rooting for OJ, she said no one SHE KNEW was rooting for him. Completely different.
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Post by tincin on Oct 11, 2021 4:34:56 GMT
10/10/21 STILL waiting for BL to be found. This was so badly played out, from the beginning. I keep hoping he's alive and hiding somewhere where he'll be found (soon!), just so we could see him go to trial. I read one Twitter post that said that his mom, Roberta, owned 3 other houses nearby their FL bungalow. I keep wondering if the FBI and police are checking every possible lead. I hope so! I do think the parents helped him. I also think that it’s sad they did. If he had nothing to do with it he would have reported her missing. I can’t imagine they spot they’re in but I also can’t imagine feeling safe around my son if I thought he had physically harmed someone.
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Post by theshyone on Oct 11, 2021 10:33:35 GMT
I still think he is out of country sitting on a beach with a drink. He will head to a nonextradition country.
As to OJ, I live in Canada and a woman I worked with flew downto the trial three different times. She would have a friend grab the tickets then go down. The entire office watched the verdict. She cheered, many others didn’t.
I haven’t watched the Dr Phil yet,is it sincere or just him grabbing fame due to it?
And how can the Landrie parents supposedly not know when they last saw him. Bull. I don’t necessarily believe Cassie either.
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Post by mom on Oct 12, 2021 18:40:34 GMT
I saw where they revealed today that Gabby died by strangulation. The Coroner also thinks she died 3-4 weeks before her body was found.
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Post by grammanisi on Oct 12, 2021 18:41:25 GMT
I saw where they revealed today that Gabby died by strangulation. The Coroner also thinks she died 3-4 weeks before her body was found. So sad.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2021 19:31:02 GMT
I saw where they revealed today that Gabby died by strangulation. The Coroner also thinks she died 3-4 weeks before her body was found. Oh gosh. Poor girl. I hadn't heard that yet.
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Post by jenjie on Oct 12, 2021 19:33:40 GMT
I saw where they revealed today that Gabby died by strangulation. The Coroner also thinks she died 3-4 weeks before her body was found. I’m so sorry to hear that. And there’s nothing accidental about that.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Oct 12, 2021 19:47:32 GMT
I saw where they revealed today that Gabby died by strangulation. The Coroner also thinks she died 3-4 weeks before her body was found. I’m so sorry to hear that. And there’s nothing accidental about that. That is terrible. Where / when does the timeline put that in their trip? I haven't been following this case closely enough to figure that out off the top of my head. (I do remember that they believe at least a couple of 'her' last posts / texts weren't really from her, correct?) if his parents helped him elude the authorities, that is just reprehensible.
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Post by uksue on Oct 12, 2021 20:04:33 GMT
I’m so sorry to hear that. And there’s nothing accidental about that. That is terrible. Where / when does the timeline put that in their trip? I haven't been following this case closely enough to figure that out off the top of my head. (I do remember that they believe at least a couple of 'her' last posts / texts weren't really from her, correct?) if his parents helped him elude the authorities, that is just reprehensible. She was found on 19/09 and last definite contact with her was when she FaceTimed her mum on 24/08,so the timeline hasn’t changed . Although a strange text was sent to Gabbys mum on 27/08,her mum didn’t think it was from Gabby as it referenced Gabby’s grandfather by his first name, which Gabby never did. It was similar to Eminem lyrics .
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Post by mom on Oct 12, 2021 20:04:49 GMT
I’m so sorry to hear that. And there’s nothing accidental about that. That is terrible. Where / when does the timeline put that in their trip? I haven't been following this case closely enough to figure that out off the top of my head. (I do remember that they believe at least a couple of 'her' last posts / texts weren't really from her, correct?) if his parents helped him elude the authorities, that is just reprehensible. Sept 19 is when they found her body. 3 weeks before that would be around Aug 30 when Gabby texted her mom asking for her help contacting 'STAN'.Mom thought this was weird and didn't know what she meant but its possible she was using code for 'Send The Authorities Now'. Aug 29 is the last verifiable sighting of Gabby at a restaurant in Jackson Hole that she and Brian were at and had a big fight.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Oct 12, 2021 20:06:54 GMT
I’m so sorry to hear that. And there’s nothing accidental about that. That is terrible. Where / when does the timeline put that in their trip? I haven't been following this case closely enough to figure that out off the top of my head. (I do remember that they believe at least a couple of 'her' last posts / texts weren't really from her, correct?) if his parents helped him elude the authorities, that is just reprehensible. Remains were found September 19th. So 3-4 weeks would be Aug 22-29th. Last confirmed contact with mother is August 27th - there is a text August 30th but they are not confident it was from her.
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Post by elaine on Oct 12, 2021 20:57:07 GMT
I saw where they revealed today that Gabby died by strangulation. The Coroner also thinks she died 3-4 weeks before her body was found. I’m so sorry to hear that. And there’s nothing accidental about that. No. Strangulation takes time - it isn’t accidental. It is a personal form of murder - one has to be up close for up to 5 minutes while you kill your victim. ☹️ The coroner didn’t revealed at the news conference whether they know whether she was strangled with hands or with a ligature. I am guessing/hoping that they may have evidence one way or the other, but don’t want to tip their hand yet until they have a suspect in custody.
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Post by birukitty on Oct 12, 2021 21:01:40 GMT
I still think he is out of country sitting on a beach with a drink. He will head to a nonextradition country. As to OJ, I live in Canada and a woman I worked with flew downto the trial three different times. She would have a friend grab the tickets then go down. The entire office watched the verdict. She cheered, many others didn’t. I haven’t watched the Dr Phil yet,is it sincere or just him grabbing fame due to it? And how can the Landrie parents supposedly not know when they last saw him. Bull. I don’t necessarily believe Cassie either. I agree with you about where Brain Landrie is. I think he got on a boat from that campground and got a ride to a different country, probably Mexico. From there he could have easily hopped a ride on another boat to a nonextraction country. His parents probably helped arrange the first boat ride and gave him a bunch of cash to help him along. I think it will be months or even years before he is caught as John Walsh said. I hope he isn't in a nonextraction country! I hope he isn't that smart but maybe his father is and told him where to go. I want him to pay for what he has done! I can't believe the actions of the parents! Maybe if he is found but can't be extracted they'll put the parents in jail. I doubt that will bring him back willingly though. The two most likely countries in South America are Brazil and Venezuela.
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Post by manomo on Oct 12, 2021 21:04:22 GMT
I saw where they revealed today that Gabby died by strangulation. The Coroner also thinks she died 3-4 weeks before her body was found. When I saw the video of her telling the police that he had grabbed her by the face, I told my husband that he strangled her. It's not that far from grabbing her by the face to grabbing her by the throat. In my work with alternative kids, I twice had the experience of seeing young women with bruises on their throats from being grabbed hard. Still makes me sick to my stomach to remember.
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Post by birukitty on Oct 12, 2021 21:16:09 GMT
I saw where they revealed today that Gabby died by strangulation. The Coroner also thinks she died 3-4 weeks before her body was found. When I saw the video of her telling the police that he had grabbed her by the face, I told my husband that he strangled her. It's not that far from grabbing her by the face to grabbing her by the throat. In my work with alternative kids, I twice had the experience of seeing young women with bruises on their throats from being grabbed hard. Still makes me sick to my stomach to remember. I thought that too. My ex strangled me once after I left him in broad daylight in a public parking lot when he came to pick up our 4 year old for visitation. He said, "This time I'm going to kill you". Somehow I got away and ran for my apartment building's elevator and made it up to my apartment and locked the door. I called 911 and the police showed up right away. The officers were so kind. They looked at my neck and said, "We can tell who's telling the truth". My ex got into big trouble for that one. He had to go to anger management, had to only see our son with supervised visitation for a long time and had to pick him up in a different location without me being there. He also got arrested and had to go to court. I went again to therapy and am fine. The only lasting problem I have is that I hate turtlenecks and I can't scuba dive because I don't trust a machine to breath for me-I've tried twice and same thing. My heart goes out to Gabby that she met her end this way. It must have been so horrifying for her. Gosh I want this slimy a-hole caught and made to face his crimes!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2021 21:51:57 GMT
I still think he is out of country sitting on a beach with a drink. He will head to a nonextradition country. As to OJ, I live in Canada and a woman I worked with flew downto the trial three different times. She would have a friend grab the tickets then go down. The entire office watched the verdict. She cheered, many others didn’t. I haven’t watched the Dr Phil yet,is it sincere or just him grabbing fame due to it? And how can the Landrie parents supposedly not know when they last saw him. Bull. I don’t necessarily believe Cassie either. I agree with you about where Brain Landrie is. I think he got on a boat from that campground and got a ride to a different country, probably Mexico. From there he could have easily hopped a ride on another boat to a nonextraction country. His parents probably helped arrange the first boat ride and gave him a bunch of cash to help him along. I think it will be months or even years before he is caught as John Walsh said. I hope he isn't in a nonextraction country! I hope he isn't that smart but maybe his father is and told him where to go. I want him to pay for what he has done! I can't believe the actions of the parents! Maybe if he is found but can't be extracted they'll put the parents in jail. I doubt that will bring him back willingly though. The two most likely countries in South America are Brazil and Venezuela. I still have SO many questions about this. How do we know that he left and flew back to FL for the supposed locker-clearing at the insistence of his dad?? If he DID go back home, maybe the Dad flew back with him?? Maybe the Dad helped him dispose of all of her belongings & her phone, and then sent Brian on a plane somewhere far away while he (the Dad) drove Gabby's van to FL? How do we know that Brian went back to FL at the beginning of September? How do we even know that he was there at all? I just had a feeling that he never went back home, the Dad possibly provided him with some passport and sent him away. Just a hunch.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2021 21:53:58 GMT
When I saw the video of her telling the police that he had grabbed her by the face, I told my husband that he strangled her. It's not that far from grabbing her by the face to grabbing her by the throat. In my work with alternative kids, I twice had the experience of seeing young women with bruises on their throats from being grabbed hard. Still makes me sick to my stomach to remember. I thought that too. My ex strangled me once after I left him in broad daylight in a public parking lot when he came to pick up our 4 year old for visitation. He said, "This time I'm going to kill you". Somehow I got away and ran for my apartment building's elevator and made it up to my apartment and locked the door. I called 911 and the police showed up right away. The officers were so kind. They looked at my neck and said, "We can tell who's telling the truth". My ex got into big trouble for that one. He had to go to anger management, had to only see our son with supervised visitation for a long time and had to pick him up in a different location without me being there. He also got arrested and had to go to court. I went again to therapy and am fine. The only lasting problem I have is that I hate turtlenecks and I can't scuba dive because I don't trust a machine to breath for me-I've tried twice and same thing. My heart goes out to Gabby that she met her end this way. It must have been so horrifying for her. Gosh I want this slimy a-hole caught and made to face his crimes! I'm so, so sorry. How brutal and frightening. My heart breaks for you for having experienced that type of violence.
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Post by kiera on Oct 12, 2021 21:55:23 GMT
@bergdorfblonde I want to know what was in the locker! birukitty I'm so glad you're doing okay and are with us to share your story. I hope your ex rots.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2021 22:15:30 GMT
@bergdorfblonde I want to know what was in the locker! birukitty I'm so glad you're doing okay and are with us to share your story. I hope your ex rots. Good question!! I thought that the whole locker story was fake. It was a reason (lame one!) for him to come home... Makes you wonder why! I believe it was for the dad to either head back for cleanup or head back with Brian for cleanup, and then have Brian leave from there.
One more question is why isn't Brian being charged for stealing her van? It was supposedly only in her name. If so, he STOLE it (or whomever drove it back to FL). Bigger charge that just stealing her credit card.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 12, 2021 22:29:59 GMT
I don’t have the best memory, but weren’t some people happy about the OJ verdict simply because a black man was found not guilty of murdering a white woman? Historically, that was/is not that likely to happen. It seemed like it really didn’t matter to some whether or not he was actually guilty, but the fact that he was not convicted was a victory for black people and the justice system.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Oct 12, 2021 22:56:04 GMT
I agree with you about where Brain Landrie is. I think he got on a boat from that campground and got a ride to a different country, probably Mexico. From there he could have easily hopped a ride on another boat to a nonextraction country. His parents probably helped arrange the first boat ride and gave him a bunch of cash to help him along. I think it will be months or even years before he is caught as John Walsh said. I hope he isn't in a nonextraction country! I hope he isn't that smart but maybe his father is and told him where to go. I want him to pay for what he has done! I can't believe the actions of the parents! Maybe if he is found but can't be extracted they'll put the parents in jail. I doubt that will bring him back willingly though. The two most likely countries in South America are Brazil and Venezuela. I still have SO many questions about this. How do we know that he left and flew back to FL for the supposed locker-clearing at the insistence of his dad?? If he DID go back home, maybe the Dad flew back with him?? Maybe the Dad helped him dispose of all of her belongings & her phone, and then sent Brian on a plane somewhere far away while he (the Dad) drove Gabby's van to FL? How do we know that Brian went back to FL at the beginning of September? How do we even know that he was there at all? I just had a feeling that he never went back home, the Dad possibly provided him with some passport and sent him away. Just a hunch. I thought a neighbor confirmed that he was there in September? I missed the locker thing. But nothing would surprise me. His dad flying snd doing stuff to help his son escape. No matter what they say we all think they helped snd covered for him to get a head start. I don’t get why they weren’t watching the house snd following him.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2021 23:01:07 GMT
Scrapper100 : We heard that a neighbor thought Brian was mowing the lawn, but that was it. Not sure how reliable her statement was. I'm wondering if he spoke to police in person? I guess he didn't even have to speak to them at that point..... So, I'd love to hear more reliable sources give a better timeline of when he came back home to FL.
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Post by Megan on Oct 12, 2021 23:10:12 GMT
I don’t have the best memory, but weren’t some people happy about the OJ verdict simply because a black man was found not guilty of murdering a white woman? Historically, that was/is not that likely to happen. It seemed like it really didn’t matter to some whether or not he was actually guilty, but the fact that he was not convicted was a victory for black people and the justice system. That's what I thought too. Here's one article: theundefeated.com/features/cheering-for-o-j-wasnt-my-most-shining-moment/
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Post by birukitty on Oct 12, 2021 23:32:31 GMT
I agree with you about where Brain Landrie is. I think he got on a boat from that campground and got a ride to a different country, probably Mexico. From there he could have easily hopped a ride on another boat to a nonextraction country. His parents probably helped arrange the first boat ride and gave him a bunch of cash to help him along. I think it will be months or even years before he is caught as John Walsh said. I hope he isn't in a nonextraction country! I hope he isn't that smart but maybe his father is and told him where to go. I want him to pay for what he has done! I can't believe the actions of the parents! Maybe if he is found but can't be extracted they'll put the parents in jail. I doubt that will bring him back willingly though. The two most likely countries in South America are Brazil and Venezuela. I still have SO many questions about this. How do we know that he left and flew back to FL for the supposed locker-clearing at the insistence of his dad?? If he DID go back home, maybe the Dad flew back with him?? Maybe the Dad helped him dispose of all of her belongings & her phone, and then sent Brian on a plane somewhere far away while he (the Dad) drove Gabby's van to FL? How do we know that Brian went back to FL at the beginning of September? How do we even know that he was there at all? I just had a feeling that he never went back home, the Dad possibly provided him with some passport and sent him away. Just a hunch. I remember that there were two neighbors (a couple I believe) who stated that they saw Brian after he returned to Florida in early September. They said he mowed the lawn and then he went on a bike ride with (I think) his mother. After that there were no other sightings of Brian, but when his parents were at that campground in Fort De Soto someone snapped a photo (not a very clear one) that shows a young man that looks very much like Brian in the background at that campground. I do think that the Florida police have bungled this case from the beginning. The fact that Brian was in possession of Gabby's van and Gabby was nowhere to be found-why wasn't that checked out? It wasn't Brian's van-it wasn't in his name. Why wasn't there some surveillance on Brian's house during all that time that suspicion was starting to build against him? What really makes me so mad and upset are the police who stopped Gabby and Brian during their trip in Moab. They had the evidence of the 911 calls and the witness statements about the abuse. Gabby herself told them how Brian had grabbed her face. And these idiots were considering charging Gabby with abuse? They even went so far as to give Brian the hotel room that domestic abuse shelters paid for! What the actual f?! They had a chance to save Gabby and they blew it big time!
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