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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2021 17:16:44 GMT
I don't understand how he can simply not talk to the police when a young women is missing and he was the last one with her. That’s what I think too. If it was something innocent - they had a fight and she took off, throwing the keys at him and telling him to F off or similar- why wouldn’t he tell the police his story. His not speaking speaks volumes to me. And IF that had happened why would she not contact her parents. there would be no reason for her not to.
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Post by tracylynn on Sept 15, 2021 17:29:04 GMT
I don't understand how he can simply not talk to the police when a young women is missing and he was the last one with her. Unfortunately, it's his right. It happens all the time. He's lawyered up and doesn't have to say one word to anyone at this point. Ever.
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Post by merry27 on Sept 15, 2021 19:14:16 GMT
The police just announced that he was home for 10 days before he reported her as missing!
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Post by katlady on Sept 15, 2021 19:25:08 GMT
The police just announced that he was home for 10 days before he reported her as missing! I thought the parents reported her missing. He never said a word! Sounds like people believe he just left her and drove off. Her parents are going to Wyoming to look for her. I hope they find her alive!
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Post by Gennifer on Sept 15, 2021 23:42:57 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 15, 2021 23:59:45 GMT
My question is why is he not talking? What is he hiding?
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Post by Kerri W on Sept 16, 2021 0:07:48 GMT
Clearly there's a lot we don't know but I'm getting the same vibe. I think we're all going to be surprised where this one goes. And I will say I would immediately hire a lawyer and not talk too. How many times have we heard police and lawyers tell us not to say anything?
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Post by Gennifer on Sept 16, 2021 2:17:50 GMT
My question is why is he not talking? What is he hiding? I would imagine he is talking with police, with his lawyer present. Whether they believe what he is saying is a different thing. And maybe having information from another police department will help them make that determination.
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 16, 2021 2:45:06 GMT
My question is why is he not talking? What is he hiding? I would imagine he is talking with police, with his lawyer present. Whether they believe what he is saying is a different thing. And maybe having information from another police department will help them make that determination. From WSAU Radio Station… “Laundrie has refused to speak to investigators, police said. North Port police are leading the investigation and working with the Federal Bureau of Investigation.” From CNN 9-15-2021 CNN) Authorities searching for missing Florida woman Gabby Petito are hoping to talk with her boyfriend, who they believe was the last person to be around her before her family reported her missing, a police spokesperson said Wednesday. "He needs to talk to us," Josh Taylor, a spokesperson for the North Port, Florida, police department, said in a news briefing. "We need to know exactly where he was, where she was, their last locations and that the fact that he was back here for 10 days. ... The family reported her missing 10 days later." Unless it’s changed he is not talking to the police.
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Post by Laurie on Sept 16, 2021 2:55:33 GMT
I just saw a tik tok video where the person was posting a timeline and one thing she speculated on was a couple in Moab was murdered while Gabby and Brian were there.
I just can’t understand not speaking at all or just going in like nothing happened after he got back.
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Post by sunnyd on Sept 16, 2021 6:28:51 GMT
I understand that the Moab police officer wanted them to be separated for the night but I don't understand why the officer arranged a hotel room for Brian and sent Gabby off to camp alone in the van for the night. Also, Gabby was too upset to speak to the officer but Brian had an answer for everything ie. she's unstable, she's struggling with her mental health, she hit me, but all is well. Sounds like domestic violence 101 on his part to me.
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Post by Nink on Sept 16, 2021 6:30:54 GMT
Her family is showing great restraint. I’d probably grab him outta his house and torture that guy unimaginably until he told me.
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Post by Gennifer on Sept 16, 2021 6:38:28 GMT
I would imagine he is talking with police, with his lawyer present. Whether they believe what he is saying is a different thing. And maybe having information from another police department will help them make that determination. From WSAU Radio Station… “Laundrie has refused to speak to investigators, police said. North Port police are leading the investigation and working with the Federal Bureau of Investigation.” Unless it’s changed he is not talking to the police. Yeah, the article I read said he is “refusing to be interviewed,” which I took to mean he gave them a statement but won’t agree to be questioned. But maybe he’s not speaking with them at all?
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Post by Gennifer on Sept 16, 2021 6:39:21 GMT
I understand that the Moab police officer wanted them to be separated for the night but I don't understand why the officer arranged a hotel room for Brian and sent Gabby off to camp alone in the van for the night. Also, Gabby was too upset to speak to the officer but Brian had an answer for everything ie. she's unstable, she's struggling with her mental health, she hit me, but all is well. Sounds like domestic violence 101 on his part to me. Probably because the van belonged to her, not him. So they told him he needed to stay somewhere else.
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Post by Gennifer on Sept 16, 2021 6:44:40 GMT
If he did something to her… well, there’s a lot of miles of road between Wyoming and Florida. How would you even begin to search all of that? Is this going to end up as another as Susan Powell case where, because there’s no body, no crime can ever be determined?
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Post by dewryce on Sept 16, 2021 6:54:36 GMT
I understand that the Moab police officer wanted them to be separated for the night but I don't understand why the officer arranged a hotel room for Brian and sent Gabby off to camp alone in the van for the night. Also, Gabby was too upset to speak to the officer but Brian had an answer for everything ie. she's unstable, she's struggling with her mental health, she hit me, but all is well. Sounds like domestic violence 101 on his part to me. Bold, Italic mine.She did speak with the police officer according to the report Gennifer posted. It does sound like she had a mental health break, or at least a break down, and was physical with him. It’s hard to tell from the descriptions exactly how, except she slapped his face and then tried to climb into the van through the window. As someone who has mental health issues and has lost the plot during them I can definitely see this happening. Also, I can see how it’s possible she is the one who stormed off. (Though she seemed to be afraid he was going to leave her at one point). But I can say without a shadow of a doubt that my DH would not have even considered leaving me anywhere without another trusted person present while I was in that state, assuming the article and I are correct about that. No way in hell. And I haven’t seen anything about him speaking about it to anyone for 10 days after he got back? Not even her parents to make sure she made it back okay? That’s odd to me, but especially while she is in that state. This isn’t some chick he picked up off the side of the road, it’s his fiancé. And even if she kept losing the plot and she went ballistic and they broke up surely he would make sure she made it home okay? I have no issues with him obtaining a lawyer, that’s just smart. And apparently she was having mental health issues and slapped his face and hit his arm while he was driving. But the above actions/lack thereof still give me pause.
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Post by Gennifer on Sept 16, 2021 7:31:21 GMT
And I haven’t seen anything about him speaking about it to anyone for 10 days after he got back? Not even her parents to make sure she made it back okay? That’s odd to me, but especially while she is in that state. This isn’t some chick he picked up off the side of the road, it’s his fiancé. And even if she kept losing the plot and she went ballistic and they broke up surely he would make sure she made it home okay? I agree with so many things you said in your post, but wanted to play devil’s advocate for a minute. Let’s say they *did* break up, and it was, presumably, emotional and sad and they can’t spend even the travel time home together. And for whatever reason they decide he’s driving the van home and she’s flying to her parents’ or something, but, you know, they’ve broken up. They part ways. So he goes home. He tells his parents they’re not together anymore, but that’s it, because he’s one of those people who doesn’t share emotional stuff. And he gets a few random phone calls from her mom but doesn’t answer, because he figures she is going to tell him he’s an asshole or whatever, and before you know it ten days goes by and he finds out she’s missing. It doesn’t actually seem out of the realm of possibility to me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ My 20yo daughter and her partner broke up two weeks ago. We packed up her stuff and moved her home on Sept 1, while her ex-boyfriend was at work. On Saturday, the 11th, her ex reached out to my husband and I. He hadn’t seen her or spoken to her for 10 days at that point, or to us. So, had something happened to her in the meantime, instead of her being with us, who would have known? And while there were times that I would see her daily, there were also times that we’d go a week or two without talking. Even living in the same small town, ten minutes away.
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Post by dewryce on Sept 16, 2021 7:44:49 GMT
I can see the scenario you’re saying Gennifer, save for 2 things. Her mental illness/breakdown and the fact that they were across the country from her home. Would her ex have left her, with her transportation, and not checked to make sure she made it home? Wouldn’t she want the vehicle when she got home? I try and remind myself that everyone’s life experience is different, I’m just having a hard time and can not fathom a partner leaving the other without transportation, across the country from their home, in a state of emergency with their mental health. Has there been anything stating if her mom left voicemail messages for him?
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Post by sunnyd on Sept 16, 2021 16:25:46 GMT
link to the 1 hour bodycam video from Moab Police.
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Post by papersilly on Sept 16, 2021 16:59:35 GMT
i'm waiting for the shoe to drop. oh, and it will drop. reference lawyer who paid someone to shoot him.
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Post by CardBoxer on Sept 16, 2021 17:05:07 GMT
One article said at some point the police were called when she slapped him, but neither wanted to file charges. The odds of her being alive are pretty much zero, but being wrong would be wonderful.
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Post by ajsweetpea on Sept 16, 2021 17:50:21 GMT
I think it’s unlikely she is still alive BUT it does seem like she was going through something and it also sounds like she was being physically abusive to him. Playing devil’s advocate here— If I was on a road trip with some guy who was putting his hands on me, l can’t say it would be out of the realm of the possibility that I would be like WTAF and ditch him. Yeah, not a nice thing to do but if someone is trying to smack me in the face while I am driving, I’m not really going to feel especially obliging to the person, you know?
However, I do think it is very likely he did something to her. It is possible abuse went both ways in that situation. If she was having some kind of mental health crisis, why wouldn’t he reach out to her family or friends? I don’t know what to think with this case.
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Post by Kerri W on Sept 16, 2021 21:04:14 GMT
I can see the scenario you’re saying Gennifer , save for 2 things. Her mental illness/breakdown and the fact that they were across the country from her home. Would her ex have left her, with her transportation, and not checked to make sure she made it home? Wouldn’t she want the vehicle when she got home? I try and remind myself that everyone’s life experience is different, I’m just having a hard time and can not fathom a partner leaving the other without transportation, across the country from their home, in a state of emergency with their mental health. Has there been anything stating if her mom left voicemail messages for him? Here are some of my thoughts... I don't think, given a break-up situation, it would be absurd for him to go home and not respond to calls and texts from her family. I can see him thinking "she's yours to deal with now" and checking out of the relationship. I also think this was not the first time her mental health was an issue for them. That compounds the above thought. When they had the altercation, she called her mother from the police car. I think the parents were well aware of her mental health struggles. Yes, the vehicle is titled to her. BUT...they were living together, planning to be married and references have been made to them fixing it up together. I think she worked at a juice bar. Perhaps they both viewed it more as shared property? Perhaps he helped make the payments and contributed to the cost of fixing it up? She stated she doesn't like to drive it so I can see her saying "take the van and go home" if they broke up, figuring they would work out the details later. I'm curious when/if her mom knew they had broken up. Mom stated they were no longer engaged but I haven't heard if she put a date on that. It's also been said mom was contacting him about where her stuff was. I think that's odd and leans more toward the breakup story than anything else. And going back to my first point, I can see him thinking, give me five minutes to process this breakup and I'll handle her property with her directly and not responding to mom.
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Post by bc2ca on Sept 16, 2021 21:18:13 GMT
This jumped out from the article Gennifer linked: My initial reflex was he did something to her. With the Moab incident and both dealing with untreated mental health issues, I'm not so sure. I actually have more hope that she will be found than when I first read the story.
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Post by dewryce on Sept 16, 2021 21:20:00 GMT
I think it’s unlikely she is still alive BUT it does seem like she was going through something and it also sounds like she was being physically abusive to him. Playing devil’s advocate here— If I was on a road trip with some guy who was putting his hands on me, l can’t say it would be out of the realm of the possibility that I would be like WTAF and ditch him. Yeah, not a nice thing to do but if someone is trying to smack me in the face while I am driving, I’m not really going to feel especially obliging to the person, you know? However, I do think it is very likely he did something to her. It is possible abuse went both ways in that situation. If she was having some kind of mental health crisis, why wouldn’t he reach out to her family or friends? I don’t know what to think with this case. Yeah, if he laid his hands in me there would definitely be issues; but if I knew it was due to his mental health struggles, I’d still call his mom to make sure he was taken care of. I dunno, I’m sure my view is colored by the fact that I’ve lost the plot myself and afterwards he just hugged me and made sure I got the help I needed. There is no way either of us would abandon the other in the middle of a mental health crisis, no matter the circumstances. If it got to the point where one of us was in jail…we’d still make sure there was a parent to take over their care. But again, I know my experience doesn’t equal someone else’s…I just can’t fathom it (abandoning them alone across the country) myself. And even if he did purposefully abandon her and not check on her it could just be that he’s an asshole, not a murderer. But it sure looks bad, and since history shows it’s the usually the lover, that’s where my mind takes me. I’m not on top of the case just reading a little here and there, had no idea they were no longer engaged. I’d say that makes the Instagram comments really weird but we know how performative those can be…
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Post by grammanisi on Sept 16, 2021 21:48:09 GMT
I'm wondering where all of her things are.
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Post by Gennifer on Sept 16, 2021 22:07:39 GMT
She stated she doesn't like to drive it so I can see her saying "take the van and go home" if they broke up, figuring they would work out the details later. Yeah, I can totally see it being as simple as a 22yo girl not wanting to drive it cross-country alone. I mean, logically I know that it’s more than likely him. Statistics tell us that. But there’s a lot of weird things this time that make me not nearly as certain of that as when I first heard about the story.
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Post by essiejean on Sept 16, 2021 22:53:09 GMT
The body cam from the Moab police is very telling - it is over an hour long. They stopped them because of erratic behavior - swerving. This was the result of Gabby hitting Brian while he was driving. Because of the marks left on his face & arms from the hit they are treating him as the victim. The officer chose not to site Gabby for domestic violence. He instead had them seperate for the night. Gabby took the van and they put Brian in a safe house/motel for the night. They could only do that for him though since he was the "victim".
The body cam video was from 8/12 so the court appearance would have been 8/13.
Their initial argument took place at the cafe that one of the women worked out that was found shot/killed at a campsite in Moab with her wife - I believe they were found 8/13??
So not sure if there is a connection or not but apparently they are looking into it.
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Post by stormycat on Sept 16, 2021 23:16:27 GMT
The body cam from the Moab police is very telling - it is over an hour long. They stopped them because of erratic behavior - swerving. This was the result of Gabby hitting Brian while he was driving. Because of the marks left on his face & arms from the hit they are treating him as the victim. The officer chose not to site Gabby for domestic violence. He instead had them seperate for the night. Gabby took the van and they put Brian in a safe house/motel for the night. They could only do that for him though since he was the "victim". The body cam video was from 8/12 so the court appearance would have been 8/13. Their initial argument took place at the cafe that one of the women worked out that was found shot/killed at a campsite in Moab with her wife - I believe they were found 8/13?? So not sure if there is a connection or not but apparently they are looking into it. I can’t like this post enough. I have no idea if he did anything to her. What is clear he is a victim of Domestic Abuse. A victim. If the tables were turned abd she had marks all over her, there would be more of an outcry. But because he is a man, it’s not looked at the sane way. I’m thinking, that when he refused to press charges he left. He might not have wanted to talk about it, and I can see why since the court of public opinion thinks he is a murderer. Now say he gets home finally talks with his family, they might preemptively got a lawyer as they know how it looks. In the end, he is still a victim of domestic abuse. Maybe her mental state was so bad after she took off and got in trouble or took her own life. I hope both families get some answers. I just don’t know what happened and hope it has a good outcome.
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Post by rodeomom on Sept 16, 2021 23:26:25 GMT
The body cam from the Moab police is very telling - it is over an hour long. They stopped them because of erratic behavior - swerving. This was the result of Gabby hitting Brian while he was driving. Because of the marks left on his face & arms from the hit they are treating him as the victim. The officer chose not to site Gabby for domestic violence. He instead had them seperate for the night. Gabby took the van and they put Brian in a safe house/motel for the night. They could only do that for him though since he was the "victim". The body cam video was from 8/12 so the court appearance would have been 8/13. Their initial argument took place at the cafe that one of the women worked out that was found shot/killed at a campsite in Moab with her wife - I believe they were found 8/13?? So not sure if there is a connection or not but apparently they are looking into it. Wonder if there is video at the café?
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