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Post by scrapcat on Sept 28, 2021 15:56:44 GMT
Sorry you are going thru this, just wanted to validate you. I think you have every right to feel how you do and I will say a prayer for you & your kids. I always find your thoughts and writing so insightful and the vulnerability is ...I want to say refreshing, but that sounds so lofty...just the realness and honesty, in this "influencer perfect" world, I really appreciate it.
Something I wonder is if 1) coming back from a vaca and just the dread that comes with "back to reality" and 2) this time of year - the back to school & everyone gearing up for holidays and end of year madness, as well as bracing for winter - I tend to be affected by it too. Not to mention all the pandemic uncertainty.
I have a young adult in my life that is also struggling and it's very hard to know that you can't really make them do anything or even only do so much for them.
I don't want to give advice and please stop here & maybe come back later. I think shutting out the noise would be helpful, I know I've had to do that from time to time. I read about practicing silence one time and I do that when I am feeling that negative voice, so its helpful in that it helps to listen more intently, not respond, and also allow the voice inside to calm down a bit.
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Post by flanz on Sept 28, 2021 16:04:37 GMT
One thought re exercising at home. Have you checked out Body Groove? It is a dance-based, no such thing as "doing it wrong", life-affirming, body positive, love yourself program designed by Misty Tripoli. I love it! There is a FB group and the posters are so very upliftng and encouraging of one another. The testimonials I read there are sometimes jaw-dropping. I don't do it as often as I would benefit from, but every single time I do it I think, I NEED to do this every day! I believe you can get a one month subs. for $10. I stream it on my (dumb) tv via Roku stick. Sooo many workouts to choose from as well as a bit of yoga and meditation. There's a 14 min. session on there which is kind of self massage - and I love it, it really energizes me. www.bodygrooveondemand.com/If not body groove, might you get an elliptical or treadmill or other piece of equipment you can use at home if you don't feel safe going to the gym just yet?
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Post by zella on Sept 28, 2021 16:09:00 GMT
I'm so sorry that you're in such a rotten place. I'm not sure what to say; my advice jar seems to be empty. The only thing I can think of is this: sometimes we have kids that make us adjust our hopes and dreams.
I wanted to see my kids go to college, maybe get married one day and have kids if that's what they wanted. My older DD has been so so difficult. I should tell the whole story sometime. She still doesn't have her GED. She does have 3 kids (2 biologically hers, one step). Every time we think she's got things together, nope. Current issue is drinking the far right kool aid and being mean to her sweet sister. Still, she is alive. And for years that's all we could hope for, every day.
Younger DD is a doll, but disabled, can't work, severe anxiety, still lives with us at 29. But she was another one I had to readjust my hopes and dreams and just be glad she's alive.
I have no idea if this helps, but we don't all have high-functioning kids. And that's okay. So try to take feeling bad over that out of the equation.
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Post by mom on Sept 28, 2021 16:09:31 GMT
I hear you and see you. It is painfully hard when our children have mental health issues and aren't doing the things they need to do to stabilize themselves. I have recently had to put up some hard boundaries with my son with BPD and doing so has helped so much. Look into Al Anon -- AA has been having online meetings via Zoom so hopefully Al Anon will be as well so you wont have to actually *go* somewhere for them.
I also want to encourage you to do something physical everyday, even if its just walking in your neighborhood for 30 min. When I am struggling with my mental health (or struggling with the shit my DS1 does) working out helps bring me peace. I will say that when I am working out, I don't listen to anything that has to do with whatever crisis is going on, I find an audio book or music that allows me to escape and think about other things. This week I am listening to Scrapbook and true crime podcasts. Just that little break working out gives my brain a chance to slow down and focus on something else.
Just know you aren't alone. And what you see on social media is only the highlights clips. No one is posting about the hell they are dealing with or the worry they have. But it doesn't mean its not actually happening.
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Post by merry27 on Sept 28, 2021 16:17:06 GMT
I'm so sorry you are dealing with all of this. Big hugs to you. I don't post a ton but I'm always on here and you are one of my favorites. You are always so kind and take the time to respond to everyone. I also really appreciate you sharing your mental health journey. I have really learned a lot from you. How old are your children again? I agree that it might be time for them to take care of themselves or take more responsibility. I think I remember that their dad isn't in the picture? Is there another relative or family member that could temporarily take them in or help out? I know you posted about the gym and I would really encourage you to go. I think your mental health outweighs the chance of you getting really sick from Covid especially since you are vaccinated. I'm feeling a lot like you are and I'm trying to find ways to bring gratitude back into my life. I have become so negative that don't like myself anymore. I never used to be like this and I hate it. I read about an exercise before: set a timer for 10 minutes and write down everything that makes you happy or smile. Titles of songs, smells, memories, hobbies, people. Try to incorporate more of those things into your everyday life. I'm also thinking about taking a break from Facebook. It really is just a highlight wheel and not an accurate representation of everyday life. Some good friends of ours who constantly post about vacations, how much they love each other and seemed like the perfect family, just announced that they are divorcing. I posted the other day about the real possibility of my senior not graduating high school and it is hard to see everyone else going on college tours and planning for their futures. Please know that you are not alone and we are all here to help and support you
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Post by scrapmaven on Sept 28, 2021 16:19:09 GMT
I feel it all on your shoulders. I'm sorry you're in such a spot right now. It's hard. Life. I'm in a super rough spot right now, and feel like I can't express or complain or moan about it, because I know other people are in worse spots. But my spot is sucky. Your spot is yucky. Just keep moving forward, keep expressing yourself. I'm hoping for a brighter day ahead for you. I will keep you in my prayers too. Hugs to you. kelly8875 , I believe that you are grieving the loss of your mom. You're in the hard stage right now, but it does get much better. I promise it does. The first year is an uphill march, but it does get much better and joy will return. You'll find a new normal and life will go fwd.
jeremysgirl , you know that you can reach out to me, right? We're friends and I totally totally understand the overwhelming feelings that you're having. I think you need to express your true feelings and thoughts and I'm glad that you did so here.
Your dd needs better meds and perhaps 12 steps, but she has to accept the help and be vigilant about it. Since she isn't doing so be willing to show her tough love. You're not her battering ram. You're her mother. BPD is not excuse for being abusive to you. She can come back after her psych appt and feel motivated, but until she starts taking care of herself and owns sobriety perhaps you can step back and do some tough love. I love you, but I have nothing to offer you until you get help and take it. Please call me when that happens and we'll have lunch. Until then, I love you, but here's your suitcase. I know it's hard to do, but you have to save yourself first. Put on your oxygen mask, before helping your children.
Is your other dd in therapy? You might have to be a bit tougher on her, as well. Everyone is hiring right now. There's no excuse for her to not have a job. A place to go each day w/structure and other people is a very healthy thing. I wonder if your dd would find it uplifting to volunteer helping other young people?
I feel like I'm peddling really hard to keep up right now, but w/different issues (medical). Your post resonated w/me. Perhaps we'll have to set intentions together each day to help us through the storm. I can do this if you can. It's always easier w/a friend.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2021 16:32:52 GMT
I'm so very sorry. I hope that you can get a few hours of peace. I understand what you mean about being on vacation (or even physically getting away from the stress). Dd33 gives me such streses and I'm tired of having to tell her what she should be doing every minute. It's draining. I'm so sorry.
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Post by paget on Sept 28, 2021 16:34:32 GMT
I sent you a message. Thinking of you.
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Post by leftturnonly on Sept 28, 2021 16:37:39 GMT
It's important for you to be heard. It's important that you know that you are loved in this world. There are many of us on this board who care very deeply for you. You mean a lot to me, more than you'll ever realize. I was on vacation a week and a half ago and I felt great. Because I was out of this environment. I had a fantasy going just before my husband suddenly died that I was going to take off for a week or two by myself and leave all responsibilities to him. I know what it is to feel like I'm a tiny pebble being pushed along underneath the edge of a glacier. Other people are able to be in control of their lives, or at least parts of their lives, that's completely out of my control in my own life and it does indeed create emotions that are challenging to deal with. There was a point where my children and I simply went out to eat and it felt so surreal to be around all these normal families I couldn't even feel my feet. I felt like I wasn't even walking on solid ground. I have this odd, almost deja vu feeling of following in my grandmother's footsteps. She had a difficult life. The only thing that has gotten me through so far is an absolute belief in God the Father, Son & Holy Ghost. I'm not searching for faith or for something to believe in; I have it. As did my grandmother. My grandmother's faith nourished and sustained her and our entire family for several generations. Despite the abject poverty she lived through, today she would be called a privileged white person guilty of the historic crimes of a country her ancestors didn't even live in. The values that enabled her to raise the most amazing children, several with very difficult medical conditions, are the ones I see torn down and mocked every.single.day now. Yet if my grandmother hadn't stood strong... I don't think my siblings or cousins and our families would even be here today. As hard as her life was, she never faced the erasure of all sense of right and wrong that we are seeing today. So, I stand before you today in this broken world and tell you that my faith alone is what continues to carry me through, just as it did for one I loved so dearly. Sharing this testimony is the only thing I have to give you. I can't give you more vacation time. I can't offer you therapy. I can't relieve you of Mom duties for a day. I can't even give you a real hug or offer you a good cup of coffee. I can only suggest that instead of continuing to search, just begin talking to God like you would talk to the most concerned, loving parent you can imagine.
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Post by cakediva on Sept 28, 2021 16:48:37 GMT
((((HUGS))))
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Sept 28, 2021 16:50:00 GMT
It's not in my budget to rent another place right now. And I'm not sure my kids would respect my alone time even if I did. They were pretty good the week I was gone. But then I stepped right back into it the moment I walked through the door. And this has been my life for the past 6-7 years. It's just gotten worse and worse over time. I think you're working from home right now, is that correct? I was working from home and decided I *had* to go back to the office, just to get some separation between "home" and 'work' for my own sanity. Would that help?? Just to be PHYSICALLY away from it all for a period of time? I do get what you're saying, though... there was a period of time when I was super-stressed about stuff at home, where the closer to home I got in my afternoon commute, I could FEEL the dread palpably increase. I just did NOT want to be there, with all its attendant stresses and issues. That's what struck me about your post, that you felt great when you were away (on vacation, but also away from home)... so maybe changing something about the physical space would help.
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Post by finsup on Sept 28, 2021 16:54:24 GMT
Oh jeremysgirl I’m sorry your burdens are so heavy right now and you are struggling so mightily. Hugs and more hugs.
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Post by elaine on Sept 28, 2021 16:57:00 GMT
(((Hugs))) I am so sorry. I’m sitting on my hands re: suggestions, because I think I really just want you to know that I hear you about your struggles.
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Post by Linda on Sept 28, 2021 17:16:53 GMT
I'm listening and I'm glad that you felt comfortable coming here and sharing your pain and struggles. I don't have any advise (but I do see other Peas have that covered) but I'll keep you in my prayers.
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Post by Restless Spirit on Sept 28, 2021 17:24:48 GMT
(((Hugs))) I am so sorry. I’m sitting on my hands re: suggestions, because I think I really just want you to know that I hear you about your struggles. This. Absolutely, this. I’m sitting here quietly listening, empathizing and supporting you. Maybe when your therapist helps you sort through some of these issues, someone here gave offer some guidance and reassurance for any decisions and actions you may decide to pursue on your path to peace and stability. I don’t want to complicate things with a thousand ideas, but so want to express my empathy and understanding. You are being heard.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2021 17:26:27 GMT
First, you are one hell of a strong person for telling the truth on how you feel. That is bravery at its finest. I hear you and can just feel the weight you are dealing with. Speaking about it and telling others is so important. I agree with others here...you need to set very strict boundaries with both girls. They are adults and you are NOT their baseball they can repeatedly hit. I strongly believe setting the boundaries with your dd that has BPD will help in the end. She will see that it is on her and she is her responsibility. She has to make those steps. But you are her supporter. Not her carryier. You are there to cheer her on, not move her. And for the other dd (Esther?) a job or volunteer position working with LGBTQIA youth could be very beneficial to her and them. And you are right. Self care and meditation and all that doesn't help in situations like this. What has helped me? Lists that I then prioritize items. Setting boundaries. Having 1 thing I look forward to each day. And saying enough is enough and no. You have to take care of YOU. Your girls are adults. Be there on the sideline but not on the field. They need to take over. And you need to take care of you. And I am with scrapmaven I too will join in. We love you and I know how freaking hard this shit is. A lot of us do. We are here for you.
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Post by lurker on Sept 28, 2021 17:57:14 GMT
I wish I had something brilliant and insightful to say but I don't. Just know you are a valued member of this community who has, time after time, shared your wisdom with those in need. It is appreciated so much.
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Post by Jennifer C on Sept 28, 2021 17:57:56 GMT
Hugs and hugs to you. I'm so glad that you re-read your post and saw that you needed to extend a hand for help.
Jennifer
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Post by mrsscrapdiva on Sept 28, 2021 18:17:22 GMT
While my situation is not the same as yours, I get it. I am so sorry that you have so many heavy things going on with no end in sight. I think it is good that you wrote it all out and shared with us. I am sorry you are struggling and I am going to read everyones replies when I have a chance.
I wake up everyday thinking I didn't get a good nights sleep, I am sick of constant ibs/stomach aches and headaches. I hate so many things about my physical house and dynamics of my household, I can somedays only see what is wrong and not what is right. Sometimes I can barely handle my own issues never mind everyone else including supporting my children the best way possible. I feel so responsible for everything around me. It is so hard to see the kids struggling mentally. I feel like I can not access the help we need because of effects of covid and the backlog of appointments with specialists.
I truly feel like "you can not heal in the same environment that made you sick". I want to pack up the essentials and start over with me and my boys. I want peace and clarity. I am stressed with the winter months coming because that isn't good either for my mental health. I have come to "own" and validate this is a really hard time of year. The switch from summer to back to school, the people cheering on the upcoming holidays and all I feel is stress about it.
What you have said is raw and honest. It is hard and no amount of sleep or rest will take care of the "tired" feeling.
I really don't have any advice but the only thing that has really calmed my mind is Deep relaxation tones and music on youtube and spotify. There are a lot to choice from and some are almost hypnotic in a good way.
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 28, 2021 18:21:23 GMT
Hugs to you. I don't have any good advice other than what you are already doing.
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Post by myboysnme on Sept 28, 2021 18:26:36 GMT
I am so sorry you are dealing with all this. I sure hope that things begin to improve little by little. You can only handle what you can handle, and it sounds like you reached that limit awhile ago. Do the bare minimum to get by until you have more ability to do more. You are tapped out and nothing is going to change that right now.
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Post by Anita on Sept 28, 2021 18:32:00 GMT
I'm so sorry you are struggling. I'm always so impressed with your unvarnished account of your mental health battle. It makes me feel less alone, as opposed to the sunshine and rainbows plastered all over social media. We are all out here pulling for you.
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Post by purplebee on Sept 28, 2021 19:01:23 GMT
Know that you have my respect and admiration and that you are a very valued member of our little Refupea community. I won’t attempt to add to the very sage advice that you have received here, but I will keep you and your loved ones in my prayers and send lots of good vibes for a better future. You deserve a happy and peaceful life, I hope you can find some help, through therapy, exercise or whatever you find beneficial. Hugs…
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Post by scraphappy0501 on Sept 28, 2021 19:03:49 GMT
Everyone else has said far more eloquently than I ever could what I want to say. Know that you are loved and that this is a safe place for you to vent as much as you want or need to - we are here for you and for anyone else who needs it. You will be in my prayers!
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Post by gillyp on Sept 28, 2021 19:04:00 GMT
Anything I might have suggested has already been said, far more eloquently than I could express. But can you hear that tapping? That’s me knocking on your door and when you open it - and you will because I’ll keep tapping till you do - I will hand you your favourite take away coffee and we will walk and you will talk. And we will keep on walking and you will keep talking. Then you will talk some more and you will notice more tapping but it’s the sound of feet walking as every Pea here joins us to listen to you and offer support and friendship to help you get through this. You WILL get through this, with cyber help here and professional help irl. Keep coming here, keep venting away and making your very valid, honest points.
Oh, and those people with their perfect lives on social media? They are being economic with the truth.
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Post by peasapie on Sept 28, 2021 19:12:42 GMT
I want you to know that I'm thinking of you, that I think the world of you from everything I've read on this board over the years, and that - having been in bad places in my life - it's ok to shout "enough." It's healthy. You are under so much stress and being "perfect" isn't in the cards for any of us. We break down. We breathe hard. We get up, and then we try again. Take a breather and let everyone around you know it. And when you are stronger, get up, look around, and try taking a few steps. We are here for you.
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Post by moodyblue on Sept 28, 2021 19:25:51 GMT
First, I applaud you for acknowledging your feelings. No good comes from ignoring, denying or stuffing them away; they will just come back and they will be even worse. That is one of the big things I learned with grieving my husband's death. I am much more open about what I feel, and I’m more honest with people about what it’s like for me. I don’t accept all the BS toxic positivity either. And, as I said on Facebook the other day, you can feel more than one thing at a time, so even though you may be grateful for what you have, you can also be worried, fearful, sad, grieving, etc., at the same time.
I was struck by what you said about your week away, camping with Jeremy. It sounds like you needed it, and that you felt good then. Question is, how to get that into your life now, even in small bits? I know that I do better when I get some fresh air, sunshine if possible, and don’t just sit in the house in a funk. Sometimes I work in the flower beds, sometimes I sit on the screen porch, sometimes I just drive around looking at scenery or seeing what’s changed.
I exercise at home (I sweat to the point of looking like a drowned rat so would rather do that in private) and have been continuing to use my recumbent bike that I got before my knee replacements. Even though I don’t always WANT to do it, it has now become a habit, and the day doesn’t feel normal unless I do. Yeah, sometimes I tell myself I’ll do a shorter session if I’m not feeling it, but most of the time I get in the whole 45 minutes I aim for. And I try to do at least one chore, task, or cleaning project each day. I also have lists of things that need to be done; I like crossing them off, and seeing pages of completed items. The lists help organize what needs to be done or what’s scheduled, but also is a reminder of what I’ve accomplished.
Like many others, I find you to be an incredibly insightful, honest, caring person. I’ve learned so much from your posts over the years. And, as I have an extended family member, a young adult, who has a bipolar diagnosis, I really appreciate your posts about mental health.
I hope you can find a way to incorporate some of the things about your vacation that made you feel good. And that you find the strength to deal with what you need, so that you can then be a support for your kids. But right now, it’s okay to say you’re tired, and to vent. We hear you, we care about you, we are here.
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Post by MZF on Sept 28, 2021 19:30:05 GMT
I'm sorry to hear of so much on your plate, Jeremysgirl. I just want to offer big (hugs) and prayers for peace for you and your family. I also want to suggest Al Anon for parents of alcoholic children--it won't 'fix' the problem, but it can give you a perspective on how you can deal with your family member. (hugs)
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Post by natscraps on Sept 28, 2021 19:49:47 GMT
Just ((((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))))).
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Post by jeremysgirl on Sept 28, 2021 19:52:09 GMT
I also want to encourage you to do something physical everyday, even if its just walking in your neighborhood for 30 min. When I am struggling with my mental health (or struggling with the shit my DS1 does) working out helps bring me peace. I've decided today that the weather is beautiful so I'm going to go for a bike ride. Alone. To think.
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