Is it too soon to congratulate Virginia??

We are no longer living IN the 1800s or 1920s.
We aren't even living LIKE we did then. 

Wrong.

Yes she is, which is why I asked "The law is not written in a way that would allow that. If you still insist that it is, please point to the exact wording that you think allows that to happen, I want to see what you're seeing."
Can you do that?




The idea for the bill came from a professor in the University System of New Hampshire




No one is asking them to do that. They are asking them to stop teaching in a way that divides the kids they teach by race. If you don't do that, the objection to the bill is not warranted, given the actual words of the bill.

You don't understand, for years we have been divided on the basis of race. This is central to the point. We still on every form we fill out have to list a race, despite the fact that race isn't even a real thing. We are still being divided on the basis of it. We need to learn about the things that are causing this division if we want to stop it from happening. This topic is divisive specifically because we living in a society that divides us.



Then what you are saying is that you want a colorblind society. Unfortunately, we do not have a colorblind society. Understanding someone's character takes getting to know them. How many exchanges do we have with people on the daily where all we know is how they look?



I didn't say it was. I can see how disabled people might have the same magnitude of disadvange. I'm not weighing one against another. I'm saying we need to see them all and work to overcome them.

Looks like you are just throwing statements out there since you don't have any evidence to support your claim.  My freshman know that when they make a claim they need to support that claim with reasoning and evidence.  Support your answer and maybe you could get some people to understand where you are coming from.  If you don't want to do that then I guess the statement you are gaslighting holds true.

What you are using to base your claim is called anecdotal evidence.   Is what you are saying true, sure.  There are people of color who make a heck of a lot more than me in this country.  But overall, white people make more than people of color.  I have linked research to support this claim.  

I won't change your mind but your argument isn't holding water unless you can provide some evidence.  So far all you have done is run your mouth and haven't supported any statement with evidence.  

More than 250 business across the state, including UNH and Dartmouth College signed a letter opposing the bill

www.nhbsr.org/programs-services/advocacy/workplaces-value-dei

The ambiguous language of HB 544 included in the budget amendment may appear to be supportive of diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI), but its intent is to restrict businesses that contract with the state and organizations receiving funding from the state, from offering DEI training to employees as they deem appropriate.

We know that diversity and inclusion build workplace cultures that thrive because of the innovative ideas and supportive environment that are built on inclusion. We invite businesses, nonprofits and educational institutions around the state to sign onto this letter and raise your voice in support of open and honest exploration of racism and sexism, and in opposition to the restrictions within HB 544's language and its inclusion in the House Budget.

New Hampshire businesses have been challenged on many levels throughout the pandemic, but the resiliency, loyalty and creativity of our employees have been the critical factors in our ability to survive. We believe that if enacted HB 544, An Act Relative to the propagation of divisive concepts, will have a chilling impact on our workplaces and on the business climate in New Hampshire, and we raise our voices in opposition to it. Our experience has shown that:

Diverse and inclusive work environments support innovative thinking and problem solving. We value the opportunities that arise from different perspectives and open-minded inquiry. The success of New Hampshire businesses depends on the ability to attract diverse generational, gender and racial employee groups at all levels within our organizations, and we must constantly work to create an environment that makes all employees feel empowered in their roles.

Our businesses, large and small, have seen that inclusive work environments dramatically increase employee retention, which directly impacts our financial bottom line. Inclusive work environments must be fostered, including enabling open and honest discussions about racism and sexism, implicit bias and how we can eliminate structural racism.
As a geographically small state, we constantly compete with neighboring states to attract the best talent. Creating the image that New Hampshire is regressive and intolerant puts us at an economic disadvantage.

We value each of our employees and their diverse backgrounds. We strive to foster an environment that lifts the human spirit and helps individuals to achieve their fullest potential within our workplaces and our communities. This bill would diminish our ability to do so.

House Bill 544 is antithetical to all of these principles. The now-rescinded federal executive order that this bill seems to emulate was rightly opposed by business groups including the US Chamber of Commerce. HB 544 would not only harm the ability of New Hampshire businesses to be competitive, it would severely harm the state's image as business-friendly, since it stifles the ability of organizations who do business with the state to foster diverse workforces as they see fit.

It is important to explore, inquire and learn from our past as we move to the future. We cannot shy away from Diversity, Equity and Inclusion training. It is critical to our understanding and ability to build strong workplaces.

We believe that New Hampshire is poised to thrive as we emerge from the pandemic. HB 544's language will stymy the brand image of our businesses as well as the state's innovative spirit and economic opportunities. We believe that HB 544 disadvantages our businesses and tarnishes New Hampshire’s future.

We strongly urge you, our elected representatives, to protect the state, its people, and its businesses from this dangerous and damaging legislation.

That's why we have 'the scientific method' and evidence/data needs to be valid/quality/vetted in order for it to be considered reputable.

Which is why people can't just pull anecdotal "evidence" out of their hindquarters and consider it equivalent to scientific studies by doctors, scientists, professors.

So, when you provide "evidence" try providing STUDIES, from reputable sources vs. anecdotes.

If you're going to make assertions (vs. state opinions), then provide evidence. When peas wanting to have a real discussion make assertions (vs. state opinions) we try to cite reputable sources w/peer-reviewed studies. Not "Well, my cousin's neighbor's friend's son..." or "I heard" or "There was a story...."