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Post by Zee on Nov 6, 2021 20:17:07 GMT
As some of you know, I sell on eBay. Have over 6,000 sales, have done well and have great customer feedback. With that said, I have made some errors. Who doesn't. A couple of weeks ago, I sent a woman the wrong size pajamas. She notified me and I told her to just keep them, give them to someone, whatever. And I mailed her a new pair that were the correct size. That is customer service. That's what I do. I made a mistake and I owned up to it. That's all. Apologized and made it right. That is what you are supposed to do when an error is made. Well, if you want to look at it that way, you made an error in not paying and now you made it right. You're only mad because they made you pay for what you were supposed to pay for in the first place. Not worth the time spent on hard feelings IMO. If you had discovered the error in the parking lot, would you have gone back inside and paid for them? Fair is fair. FTR I would not have gone back inside to pay for them but I also wouldn't be upset about paying for them when the error was discovered.
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Post by cmpeter on Nov 6, 2021 20:28:30 GMT
I would expect to pay for them too. I’ve had water or soda on the bottom of my cart. Paid and then the cashier realized they didn’t notice and rang them up. Never would have occurred to me that they would offer them for free.
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Post by johnnysmom on Nov 6, 2021 20:50:31 GMT
I’m not as angelic as some peas who, on past similar threads, have said they would return to a store to pay for a missed item….once I’m home I’m far too lazy to go back and fix someone else’s error 🤷🏻♀️ But when I still at the counter? I wouldn’t bat an eye at pulling my credit card back out.
I used to sell online on Etsy and Amazon and if I’d made an error I’d also tell the buyer to keep the item in the name of customer service. But that was mostly because I didn’t want to inconvenience the customer to have them return it, even if it only meant going a few blocks to a post office. If I could have received the item back without making the customer go out of their way to do so I would have.
The two situations are apples to oranges.
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Post by cecilia on Nov 6, 2021 20:57:02 GMT
I would have paid too and not been bothered. Having worked retail, I know that those mistakes can cost you a job. And I am a person who has gone back to the store when realizing they didn't scan the bottled water on the bottom, underneath the basket to pay for it. This. While I don't know if it would have cost me my job it would have affected our quarterly bonuses which we worked out asses off for
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 6, 2021 21:29:37 GMT
I have been in many stores where their policy is that if something doesn't ring up correctly it's free, or very discounted. This is what I've experienced in grocery stores. So I can understand zztopp11 being bummed out that you went to a place that doesn't do that after having that as the standard in your life elsewhere. You paid for the items, so being disappointed doesn't mean you have bad character as suggested up thread. It means you're human.
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on Nov 6, 2021 21:37:33 GMT
The store did make it right, they asked you to pay for the steaks you purchased. You weren’t inconvenienced other than having to pull your card out again.
If you had been overcharged, or gone to your car and come back, or it had been a lower dollar value item, then I can see them offering you something more than a thank you, but this wasn’t a big deal for you to pay for what you intended to pay for.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Nov 6, 2021 22:00:37 GMT
If I were still standing there? No, I would not at all resent having to pay for my items - minus the coupon savings, of course.
Regarding regionality: I can easily imagine 3-4 different solutions happening at 3-4 different stores here in Chicago. It would depend on so many different variables: size, independent v. corporate, policy, lack of policy, rank of employee, financial health. I believe regional differences/trends can exist, but I’d be surprised if it’s as cut and dry as “This would never ever happen in Baltimore” or “This indicates this will always happen here.”
Happy grilling.
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Post by zztop11 on Nov 6, 2021 22:19:39 GMT
I have been in many stores where their policy is that if something doesn't ring up correctly it's free, or very discounted. This is what I've experienced in grocery stores. So I can understand zztopp11 being bummed out that you went to a place that doesn't do that after having that as the standard in your life elsewhere. You paid for the items, so being disappointed doesn't mean you have bad character as suggested up thread. It means you're human. Thank you. I appreciate it.
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Post by ComplicatedLady on Nov 6, 2021 23:51:52 GMT
sorry - I'm with the rest - if you (general) expect the store to fix errors/oversights that end up benefiting you (they forgot to ring up a sale price or coupon) then you (general) should also expect to fix errors/oversights that don't (you missed getting an item scanned or they only rang 1 of 2 items) This sums up my thoughts, although if I’m being completely transparent, I would’ve never noticed if the coupon/discount was applied or if the sum made sense. I don’t pay attention and then I just pay.
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Post by MichyM on Nov 7, 2021 0:00:31 GMT
sorry - I'm with the rest - if you (general) expect the store to fix errors/oversights that end up benefiting you (they forgot to ring up a sale price or coupon) then you (general) should also expect to fix errors/oversights that don't (you missed getting an item scanned or they only rang 1 of 2 items) This sums up my thoughts, although if I’m being completely transparent, I would’ve never noticed if the coupon/discount was applied or if the sum made sense. I don’t pay attention and then I just pay. ComplicatedLady, my apologies if you’ve been using your avatar forever, but I just noticed it now. It’s adorable and sums up life perfectly 👍🏻
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Post by used2scrap on Nov 7, 2021 0:24:01 GMT
If I was going to be upset my $4 coupon wasn’t subtracted, I’d certainly understand a store wanting their $20 meat paid for.
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Post by littlemama on Nov 7, 2021 0:27:27 GMT
You were still in the store, at the register. Of course you should have paid for them.
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Post by Katie on Nov 7, 2021 0:28:47 GMT
Lunds and Byerly’s is a big chain, not a little gourmet grocery. So, no way would I expect the steaks for free. I’d be highly annoyed with the cashier, but would not be upset they asked me to pay what I owed.
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Post by pjaye on Nov 7, 2021 0:55:43 GMT
As some of you know, I sell on eBay. Have over 6,000 sales, have done well and have great customer feedback. With that said, I have made some errors. Who doesn't. A couple of weeks ago, I sent a woman the wrong size pajamas. She notified me and I told her to just keep them, give them to someone, whatever. And I mailed her a new pair that were the correct size. That is customer service. That's what I do. I made a mistake and I owned up to it. That's all. Apologized and made it right. That is what you are supposed to do when an error is made. That's different. If the women was standing right in front of you and you handed her the PJs and she said "hey these are the wrong size"...you'd tell her to keep them and just hand her a second set and tell her to keep both? I very much doubt that. She'd hand them back to you, you'd say sorry and give her the right size. There's a big difference between putting your customer out - asking them to repack an item, spend their time going to the post office etc and if that person is standing right in front of you at the time you notice the mistake. I wouldn't even question paying for that food - you are still in the shop when the error was noticed, of course you pay for it. I've done it just recently - went to the vet and when I went to pay I thought it sounded cheaper than normal...I paid and then I looked at the receipt and realised her $116 tablets weren't on there, so I said something and I paid the rest and she thanked me. You don't always have to 'win' or gain something when someone else makes a simple error. That's a very mercenary way of existing in the world.
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Nov 7, 2021 1:10:54 GMT
I would have insisted on paying for the steaks, because of their high price. That said I have been in many stores where their policy is that if something doesn't ring up correctly it's free, or very discounted.I hope for $14 a piece they were very tasty steaks. Yeah. If it rings up incorrectly. Not if they don't ring it up in the first place.
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Nov 7, 2021 1:16:27 GMT
As some of you know, I sell on eBay. Have over 6,000 sales, have done well and have great customer feedback. With that said, I have made some errors. Who doesn't. A couple of weeks ago, I sent a woman the wrong size pajamas. She notified me and I told her to just keep them, give them to someone, whatever. And I mailed her a new pair that were the correct size. That is customer service. That's what I do. I made a mistake and I owned up to it. That's all. Apologized and made it right. That is what you are supposed to do when an error is made. Customer service, part of your contractual obligation to keep your seller account in good standing and not have a chargeback in paypal... Potato, potahto.
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Post by melanell on Nov 7, 2021 3:11:19 GMT
It's called customer service, that's all. Customer service. My bill was over $100 so I didn't realize it should be $20 more. When I was a teacher I attended a conference about making errors. (True story). If you do something wrong, it's not enough to say "I'm sorry". You also need to wrong the right. That's all. Customer service. But what went wrong here was that they neglected to charge you for the steaks. So righting that wrong would be charging you the proper price for the steaks, taking your coupons into account, wouldn't it? I mean, that would have been the "right" thing since neglecting to charge you for them was the "wrong" thing. If they gave them to you for free, then nothing would have changed from the "wrong" situation as far as I can tell. It would be like they said "Oh we messed up. Let's just keep things messed up."
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Post by melanell on Nov 7, 2021 3:17:00 GMT
I have been in many stores where their policy is that if something doesn't ring up correctly it's free, or very discounted. This is what I've experienced in grocery stores. So I can understand zztopp11 being bummed out that you went to a place that doesn't do that after having that as the standard in your life elsewhere. You paid for the items, so being disappointed doesn't mean you have bad character as suggested up thread. It means you're human. I've experienced stores that do that as well...BUT only when they overcharge or double charge you for an item. Not when they neglect to scan an item at all. And again, it's because you have been shortchanged and you have to take time to go back to customer service to have it corrected. So they are giving you back what you were overcharged and giving you a bit extra for the inconvenience of the extra step and extra time spent waiting in yet another line, etc. So for me, this is still a different type of situation.
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Post by Lexica on Nov 7, 2021 3:54:58 GMT
I would never have expected the steaks to be free. But then I am the type of person who would drive back to the store, or at least notify them on my next visit, that they had undercharged me on something and then would pay what I owe. I'm a big believer in karma and I don't want something held over my head, even if I am the only one doing the holding. The bottom line is that my getting away with $20 could impact the staff and owners of the establishment. Sure people justify it if it is a large chain store, but many stores are independently franchised and the owner has a family to support and staff to pay. I consider it like a theft. Not intentional on my part and I only feel culpable when I realize I wasn't charged. When I would notify a manager, I always received a big thank you, which is sad to me. It is the right thing to do and should be expected, not thanked.
We had a K-Mart in the area that was notorious for incorrect charges at the register. I had to watch very carefully as I was being rung up. You had to know the prices of everything and whether or not it was supposed to be on sale. The item would be advertised as on sale for a reduced price, the cashier would run it through the scanner, and the price was never altered in the main system so that I would be paying normal price, not the sale price. It wasn't the cashier's fault, it was whoever was supposed to alter it in their system.
I did notice that after this store had been open for about a year, they put up signs that if this occurred to you, they would correct the mistake and give you a $5 gift certificate. I am pretty sure they were forced to issue the $5 because of the number of times that the computer was not matching either the shelf price or the advertised price. I found it stressful to have to watch every item being slid across the scanner and having to remember the pricing so I quit shopping there. Also, I was dating a guy whose son got a job at that particular K-Mart. He told me never to purchase anything that was supposed to be refrigerated because they would frequently leave things like milk on the loading dock for hours before eventually bringing it into the refrigerator area. I had noticed that milk would spoil awfully quickly and had already stopped purchasing it there just because I was tired of having to run out and buy it again somewhere else. I no longer drink milk, but when I did, and mainly when I gave it to my son, I was super picky about the freshness of it.
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Post by ComplicatedLady on Nov 7, 2021 6:58:12 GMT
ComplicatedLady , my apologies if you’ve been using your avatar forever, but I just noticed it now. It’s adorable and sums up life perfectly 👍🏻 Lol—not forever. I may have had another Calvin avatar, but definitely haven’t used this one forever. Calvin (and Hobbes) seems to perfectly sum up a lot of my life experiences. This particular one seemed to express life with the peas!
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Post by peasapie on Nov 7, 2021 11:40:03 GMT
You’re cruisin for a bruisin asking this question of the peas!
My response: I would have checked that receipt more carefully before asking if I’d received the discount. And being the Pollyanna that I am, I would then have told her she didn’t ring up the steaks. Because karma.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 7, 2021 12:00:57 GMT
It's called customer service, that's all. Customer service. My bill was over $100 so I didn't realize it should be $20 more. When I was a teacher I attended a conference about making errors. (True story). If you do something wrong, it's not enough to say "I'm sorry". You also need to wrong the right. That's all. Customer service. I’ve been in a similar situation and iirc, I felt strange about it as well. Not because I was irritated with having to pay, but I think it was uncomfortable and made me feel like I was the one who did something wrong. Is that what you mean when you say they should make it right? Because other than that, it seemed like the mistake was harmful to the store so they were the ones that she/they needed to make it right for.
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Post by MichyM on Nov 7, 2021 15:18:22 GMT
If I was going to be upset my $4 coupon wasn’t subtracted, I’d certainly understand a store wanting their $20 meat paid for. Right?!? What an interesting sense of right and wrong. You make a mistake in my favor, no big deal, “I’m good to go without paying what I owe.” But if you make a mistake in the store’s favor, “I’m going to make doubly sure THAT doesn’t happen.”
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Post by compeateropeator on Nov 7, 2021 16:14:39 GMT
I would expect to pay for it if it was found right then, especially if found when checking if a discount was applied to it.
I do consider it a different situation standing there in person than a by mail purchase.
I have seen stores advertise or use the practice of if it scans wrong they will compensate you and make it right.
I consider myself a pretty honest person but typically would not go back to a store to pay for an error I found once I had left. But would not think twice about paying for an error that was found while I was still there. I also would not typically drive back to a store to pickup an item that was inadvertently not bagged or ask for the refund that I was overcharged for (within reason).
It all depends on the amount and those involved. I would be much more likely to go back and rectify to a small business person than a large corporation because of more of an impact on their bottom line. I know that it shouldn’t make a difference but it does. I am also sure that is not considered correct or proper actions but it is the truth. 🤷♀️
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Post by Just T on Nov 7, 2021 16:17:24 GMT
There have often been times things get missed on my cart in grocery store--cases of water on the bottom of the cart, etc. It never occurred to me to think that because a cashier missed ringing something up that I should get it for free.
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Post by malibou on Nov 7, 2021 16:44:16 GMT
I'm trying to figure out how they were missed in the first place. Toilet paper or water on the bottom of the cart, easy to miss, steaks in your cart, I don't really get it. Either you put your items on the belt, or the cashier is removing the items from your cart, how are items missed?
I'm not being snarky, I'm simply curious as to how 2 items were missed.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 7, 2021 17:26:50 GMT
I'm trying to figure out how they were missed in the first place. Toilet paper or water on the bottom of the cart, easy to miss, steaks in your cart, I don't really get it. Either you put your items on the belt, or the cashier is removing the items from your cart, how are items missed? I'm not being snarky, I'm simply curious as to how 2 items were missed. I wonder if the cashier scanned them and it didn't work right if they were on sale? I am not sure if this is the situation, but sometimes stores will put a different tag and bar code on the meat if it needs to be sold that day. I have had times where that code didn't work when I was using self checkout. But, I definitely would have double checked the receipt to make sure I wasn't charged twice.
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Post by catmom on Nov 7, 2021 17:47:50 GMT
I would expect to pay for it and wouldn’t be bothered, but many of the grocery stores where I live have a policy that if they didn’t ring something up correctly I get it free. I believe this also covers not ringing it in at all.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Nov 7, 2021 18:32:02 GMT
I'm trying to figure out how they were missed in the first place. Toilet paper or water on the bottom of the cart, easy to miss, steaks in your cart, I don't really get it. Either you put your items on the belt, or the cashier is removing the items from your cart, how are items missed? I'm not being snarky, I'm simply curious as to how 2 items were missed. It happens. Last year I found a sweet deal on a cordless vacuum at Target, on clearance. It was a $200 item and it was in a BIG box in my cart full of other items. I watched the cashier physically scan it and take the security thing off of the box. I paid the bill, moved out of the cashier lane then thought, “Whoa, that total didn’t seem like enough.” Looked at the receipt and sure enough the vacuum didn’t scan. My kid was with me at the time and I thought it was a perfect opportunity to model doing the right thing. I went up to customer service and explained what happened and I was properly charged for the vacuum that I had fully intended on paying for in the first place because as I said, it was already on clearance for a killer deal. So to answer the original question, yes, I would expect to pay for my items but I would also expect that my coupon would be honored so I was paying the discounted price. It’s one thing for there to be a computer error when something is rung up and another thing entirely for the item to never be rung up in the first place.
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Post by pjaye on Nov 8, 2021 0:00:53 GMT
but many of the grocery stores where I live have a policy that if they didn’t ring something up correctly I get it free. I believe this also covers not ringing it in at all. So let's assume you are using the self service checkout, and you don't scan $20 worth of goods, and they come over and say "excuse me, you didn't ring these up"...do you think they'd give them to you for free?? I'm 100% sure they wouldn't. In fact they might have a case for shoplifting.
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