Kroger to charge COVID insurance surcharges

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Sounds reasonable to me.

Get your head out of your ass.  Obesity, smoking, alcoholism, diabetes are far different diseases with deep genetic, social, and mental components.  COVID is a disease spread by coughing and sneezing.  COVID can be stopped by two shots, which obviously you haven't received given your other postings.

This is where it has to start, with the insurance coverage. Remember the Republican fear of Obamacare 'death panels"? Yeah, well your ignorance and politicizing the pandemic has all but ensured that we soon might actually have them. No vaccine? No service.

Great job, people. <golf clap>

Don't want your employer involved in  your healthcare? Then turn down the insurance benefit. Easy. Pay for your own out of pocket. <ed to add this sounded harsher than I intended. I meant 'you' as in general you>

And because you’re obviously stupid, most insurers already have different policies and/or make those who are out of their parameters (overweight, other health conditions, smokers) where they pay more.

So adding covid to the list —excellent!

Maybe forcing you science deniers who are burdening the medical system to pay higher costs will get you vaccinated.

My husband's company is doing it, but they are only allowed to charge $50 extra each month. They were hoping to charge a lot more. Now we are stuck paying for the hospital bills of the unvaccinated. Some tried to lie and say their doctor said they couldn't get vaccinated. But when HR told them they had to provide a doctor's note, they said they would just pay the small additional fee.

Yes, let’s pretend the 4 hours a year (assuming an hour a shot quarterly) is equal to what it would take to help the other health conditions. I’m not saying a surcharge for them is necessarily unacceptable, assuming adequate help and time was given to avoid them (among a few other things); but to pretend they are comparable as has been suggested is just asinine.

To say nothing of the fact that the other diseases aren’t contagious, one person can spread it to so many others, especially in a work environment. So they are adding mega insurance costs that could be avoided not only for theirselves, but likely others.

Wrong!!!  The vaccines don’t stop covid. You should probably change that sentence. 

Wrong!! You should probably check out science.

Vaccines CAN stop a person from getting covid.

What they don’t do is “cure” covid.

Per the CDC:

“COVID-19 vaccination causes a more predictable immune response than infection with the virus that causes COVID-19. Getting a COVID-19 vaccine gives most people a high level of protection against COVID-19 and can provide added protection for people who already had COVID-19. One study showed that, for people who already had COVID-19, those who do not get vaccinated after their recovery are more than 2 times as likely to get COVID-19 again than those who get fully vaccinated after their recovery.

All COVID-19 vaccines currently available in the United States are effective at preventing COVID-19. Getting sick with COVID-19 can offer some protection from future illness, sometimes called “natural immunity,” but the level of protection people get from having COVID-19 may vary depending on how mild or severe their illness was, the time since their infection, and their age.

Getting a COVID-19 vaccination is also a safer way to build protection than getting sick with COVID-19. COVID-19 vaccination helps protect you by creating an antibody response without you having to experience sickness. Getting vaccinated yourself may also protect people around you, particularly people at increased risk for severe illness from COVID-19. Getting sick with COVID-19 can cause severe illness or death, and we can’t reliably predict who will have mild or severe illness. If you get sick, you can spread COVID-19 to others. You can also continue to have long-term health issues after COVID-19 infection.”

The vaccines ARE stopping people from getting covid.

Same as it’s lessening symptoms in others.

And there are some who get the break through.

But A vaccine can absolutely prevent people from getting it.

(It’s sad that some people just don’t understand how vaccines work).

Again, from the CDC:

“Vaccines prevent diseases that can be dangerous, or even deadly. Vaccines greatly reduce the risk of infection by working with the body’s natural defenses to safely develop immunity to disease. This fact sheet explains how the body fights infection and how vaccines work to protect people by producing immunity.”

No, let’s create a vaccine for these conditions, and watch people line IN DROVES up for their preventative for diabetes, heart disease, obesity, smoking cessation and alcohol and drug addiction, shall we? Sheesh, if they could be prevented by a few pricks with a needle, you know that would happen.

I sure wish there was a vaccine against stupid.

You are correct, it *shouldn’t* be this way. And I say that as someone who works for one. But it is (thanks to republicans invested in the status quo) so if we can game that system for some good, I’m ok with that, too.

You know - it’s amazing, all these republicans living and dying for their freedoms, it’s amazing how much freedom living in a country with universal healthcare gives you. You have the freedom to change jobs without considering what kind of coverage your new job has - or even if it has it. It’s super liberating.