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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2021 3:56:58 GMT
I still have antibodies 15 months after having covid. You know who doesn’t have antibodies after having COVID? Me. Because I’ve never had COVID. Which also means I don’t have to worry about any long-hauler symptoms or permanent damage to my body. You know what contributed to that? My vaccination. As far as how many boosters I’ll take? AS MANY AS I FUCKING NEED TO. Happily. Also, the idea that because you had one variation of COVID 15 months ago means you’re somehow “safe” from getting it again? Insane. Along with the idea that just because you, presumably, had a mild case with no long-term effects the first time that you’ll be that lucky again. yep - www.sorryantivaxxer.com/post/rhonda-sue-miller-51-lexington-ky-anti-vaxxer-got-covid-twice-died-the-second-time
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used2scrap
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Post by used2scrap on Dec 21, 2021 4:17:55 GMT
You know who didn’t have natural immunity after having Covid? Myself and my immediate family members...who all had Covid March 2020, and again in Nov 2020. This year though we’re all busy getting vaccinated and boostered except the 12 year old who isn’t yet eligible. But we’re also sheep who wear masks and make other decisions with health in mind.
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Post by amp on Dec 21, 2021 4:38:08 GMT
This is not the news flash you apparently think it is. We are all aware of breakthrough cases. The point is that the vaccinated are less likely to catch the COVID, less likely to actually show symptoms if they do, less likely to end up the hospital, less likely to die, and possibly most important … less likely to spread it to others, than the unvaccinated are. So yes, if everyone were vaccinated, the spread would slow considerably and the mutations would have less of a chance to develop, and the pandemic would die off. Why do you think polio, measles, and chicken pox don’t sweep through schools anymore, like they did 50-100 years ago? And I couldn’t care less how many boosters it will take. Life must be kind of difficult for you to navigate, if this is what you worry about. I don’t get the hysteria about boosters either. You make an appt online to Walgreens, or wherever you choose to go, and get the booster. Easy peasy. OTOH, I suppose if you think that Joe and Kamala have planted tracking chips in the vaccine, you could, I guess, be leery. 🤔 I've gotten a flu vaccine every year since they became available...and I've never gotten the flu. I've heard the flu is pretty miserable for a week or so. But I don't have personal experience. The recurring flu vaccines are the price (if you can even call a quick sting a price) you pay to continued living in good health.
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Post by christine58 on Dec 21, 2021 12:24:34 GMT
You know who didn’t have natural immunity after having Covid? Myself and my immediate family members...who all had Covid March 2020, and again in Nov 2020. This year though we’re all busy getting vaccinated and boostered except the 12 year old who isn’t yet eligible. But we’re also sheep who wear masks and make other decisions with health in mind. Your 12 year old is eligible I thought
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Dec 21, 2021 12:48:45 GMT
What bugs Me the most about this is that people clearly share it without even taking the time to research who is behind the letter. How many other people worldwide are sharing this, after just glancing at it and pass it on it because it fits their narrative? That has to stop.
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Post by hookturnian on Dec 21, 2021 12:56:48 GMT
Seriously? That’s like saying already being pregnant protects you more from getting pregnant again than using a condom. Sure, technically true, but kind of misses the point. The point is not to get COVID in the first place. About a third of people who contract COVID end up with long term complications including heart and lung damage and neurological effects. Those who get the vaccine and avoid infection don’t have that risk. And the Israeli study is old news. Newer research suggests the natural immune wanes, and the recommendation remains to be vaccinated and being vaxxed offers the best protection against reinfection www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vitalI’m curious about how many boosters you think we all are going to need before this is done. However, it’s proven that the vaccination does not protect everyone from contracting covid. That’s why there are so many breakthrough cases. It’s going to just keep mutating and mutating into newer and newer variants. The average woman takes about 10000 birth control pills in a lifetime, and those have many, many side effects, some quite serious. So yeah, I'm good with taking as many covid boosters as my doctor recommends.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Dec 21, 2021 13:11:40 GMT
I honestly don't understand this. Was there so much kickback to the polio vaccine? To any of the other vaccines. They saved lives, people got them, they ARE LEGALLY required. This will save lives. What's the difference other than 50 years. Trump, Fox And other right wing media along with other politicians who went along with trump and fox to make the virus a political issue.
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Post by gar on Dec 21, 2021 13:20:58 GMT
It’s going to just keep mutating and mutating into newer and newer variants. You're absolutely right...but you know what would prevent the from happening? Less hosts! In other words, more people vaccinated (who are then far less likely to catch/spread the virus) therefore giving the virus less chance of mutating. And then we could ALL afford to be a bit gung-ho about it all.
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used2scrap
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Post by used2scrap on Dec 21, 2021 13:42:41 GMT
You know who didn’t have natural immunity after having Covid? Myself and my immediate family members...who all had Covid March 2020, and again in Nov 2020. This year though we’re all busy getting vaccinated and boostered except the 12 year old who isn’t yet eligible. But we’re also sheep who wear masks and make other decisions with health in mind. Your 12 year old is eligible I thought He has 2 shots but not yet the third.
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Post by claudia123 on Dec 21, 2021 13:59:17 GMT
It’s going to just keep mutating and mutating into newer and newer variants. You're absolutely right...but you know what would prevent the from happening? Less hosts! In other words, more people vaccinated (who are then far less likely to catch/spread the virus) therefore giving the virus less chance of mutating. And then we could ALL afford to be a bit gung-ho about it all. This is true which is why I can't understand why many people in rich countries have already had 3 vaccines before people in poorer countries have even had one. Not only is it incredibly selfish and immoral imo, it also means makes no sense from a scientific point of view.
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Post by gar on Dec 21, 2021 14:03:01 GMT
You're absolutely right...but you know what would prevent the from happening? Less hosts! In other words, more people vaccinated (who are then far less likely to catch/spread the virus) therefore giving the virus less chance of mutating. And then we could ALL afford to be a bit gung-ho about it all. This is true which is why I can't understand why many people in rich countries have already had 3 vaccines before people in poorer countries have even had one. Not only is it incredibly selfish and immoral imo, it also means makes no sense from a scientific point of view. It doesn’t have to be either/or but the advanced countries certainly could do a lot more to help them. Although of course it’s very complicated in poor countries where the infrastructure simply isn’t there to facilitate it quickly and easily or where the government don’t care as long as they have their own jabs.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2021 14:06:27 GMT
I still haven't seen any studies about the bad effects of the Covid vaccine. I'm talking actual scientific studies, not some half assed letter by some random people.
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Post by nightnurse on Dec 21, 2021 15:27:57 GMT
Seriously? That’s like saying already being pregnant protects you more from getting pregnant again than using a condom. Sure, technically true, but kind of misses the point. The point is not to get COVID in the first place. About a third of people who contract COVID end up with long term complications including heart and lung damage and neurological effects. Those who get the vaccine and avoid infection don’t have that risk. And the Israeli study is old news. Newer research suggests the natural immune wanes, and the recommendation remains to be vaccinated and being vaxxed offers the best protection against reinfection www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vitalI’m curious about how many boosters you think we all are going to need before this is done. However, it’s proven that the vaccination does not protect everyone from contracting covid. That’s why there are so many breakthrough cases. It’s going to just keep mutating and mutating into newer and newer variants. Viruses can’t mutate on their own, they need hosts to replicate them. The more vaccinated people, the less available hosts, the less variants. How many boosters do I think we will need? Keep in mind that while I’m a nurse practitioner it’s family NP and I do not pretend to know as much on the subject as an immunologist or other expert on this field. However I suspect it’ll be much like the flu shot with yearly vaccinations. That’s not a vaxx failure.
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Post by Skellinton on Dec 21, 2021 16:08:40 GMT
I honestly don't understand this. Was there so much kickback to the polio vaccine? To any of the other vaccines. They saved lives, people got them, they ARE LEGALLY required. This will save lives. What's the difference other than 50 years. Trump, Fox And other right wing media along with other politicians who went along with trump and fox to make the virus a political issue. Yet Trump has gotten his booster. SMH.
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Post by Merge on Dec 21, 2021 16:39:00 GMT
Trump, Fox And other right wing media along with other politicians who went along with trump and fox to make the virus a political issue. Yet Trump has gotten his booster. SMH. And his supporters in Dallas booed him for it.
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Post by gar on Dec 21, 2021 16:50:48 GMT
Yet Trump has gotten his booster. SMH. And his supporters in Dallas booed him for it. As if any more proof were needed that he never was 'one of them' - the man in the street
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2021 16:56:32 GMT
And his supporters in Dallas booed him for it. Honestly, that made me so happy. He's lost the die-hards w/his kowtowing to "junk science" and "big pharma".
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Post by scorpeao on Dec 21, 2021 17:25:33 GMT
I stopped reading at "the voice of tyranny." You don't know what tyranny is...
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Post by littlemama on Dec 21, 2021 17:28:24 GMT
And his supporters in Dallas booed him for it. Honestly, that made me so happy. He's lost the die-hards w/his kowtowing to "junk science" and "big pharma". Oh, no he didnt. They will still support him. Ive come to the realization that he really could shoot someone in broad daylight and get away with it
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Post by Just T on Dec 21, 2021 17:29:20 GMT
God, I am soooooo f*ing SICK of people sharing ridiculous crap like this. Who the F cares what some journalist and college history professors and mechanical engineers and philosphers, and professionals in "visual culture" etc think about the vaccine and Covid??? Really, WHO THE F CARES? Why does anyone believe shit like this but call people like Dr. Fauci and other epidemiologists wackos??? How have intelligent people fallen so far down the rabbit hole of idiocy? Sorry, but I prefer to form my opinions based on doctors, epidemiologists, and others who specialize in infectious diseases.
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Post by cindosha on Dec 21, 2021 17:36:37 GMT
You know who doesn’t have antibodies after having COVID? Me. Because I’ve never had COVID. Which also means I don’t have to worry about any long-hauler symptoms or permanent damage to my body. You know what contributed to that? My vaccination. As far as how many boosters I’ll take? AS MANY AS I FUCKING NEED TO. Happily. Also, the idea that because you had one variation of COVID 15 months ago means you’re somehow “safe” from getting it again? Insane. Along with the idea that just because you, presumably, had a mild case with no long-term effects the first time that you’ll be that lucky again. yep - www.sorryantivaxxer.com/post/rhonda-sue-miller-51-lexington-ky-anti-vaxxer-got-covid-twice-died-the-second-timeWOW!! You are so nice. I had covid BEFORE vaccines were available so I guess it was unavoidable that I was going to get it as my son brought it home from college and did not/do not wear a mask in my own house. I in fact, had a pretty severe case of it at that time and still only have about 70% of taste and smell as a residual. And I'm fine now, thank you!! It amazes me that you seem to think I am an anti-vaxer when in fact I have been vaccinated. I will not however be getting any boosters. So go ahead and get your boosters, I won't be. And if you think you are not going to eventually get covid in some form or variation, you are living in la la land.
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Post by gar on Dec 21, 2021 17:41:45 GMT
And if you think you are not going to eventually get covid in some form or variation, you are living in la la land I'll opt for the mild version thanks, courtesy of the vaccine and booster.
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Post by Just T on Dec 21, 2021 17:44:13 GMT
It amazes me that you seem to think I am an anti-vaxer when in fact I have been vaccinated. I will not however be getting any boosters. So go ahead and get your boosters, I won't be. I am not asking this to snarky, I am genuinely curious as I know a lot of people who got two vaccines but now say they won't get the booster. I am curious why not? If you believe in the science enough to get two vaccines, why not get the booster? I honestly don't care if we have to get one every year. People get flu shots every year and don't give it a thought.
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Post by katlady on Dec 21, 2021 17:52:03 GMT
I am curious too why people aren’t getting the booster. My county has a high vaccinated rate, over 70%, yet only 23% have gotten the booster. When I got the booster, the nurse thanked me several times for coming in and getting my booster.
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Post by huskergal on Dec 21, 2021 17:58:38 GMT
It is amazing how history repeats itself. Smallpox
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Post by pierogi on Dec 21, 2021 18:01:27 GMT
Where is the data to back up that the vaccinations are not helping? With posts like these, you can simply apply Hitchens Razor: "What is presented without evidence, may be dismissed without evidence."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2021 18:03:16 GMT
I am curious too why people aren’t getting the booster. Because their beliefs (uninformed by years of training, med school, studying, etc) are worth as much (or more) as the studies, data, evidence of the doctors, scientists, researchers.
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Post by sideways on Dec 21, 2021 18:23:36 GMT
WOW!! You are so nice. I had covid BEFORE vaccines were available so I guess it was unavoidable that I was going to get it as my son brought it home from college and did not/do not wear a mask in my own house. I in fact, had a pretty severe case of it at that time and still only have about 70% of taste and smell as a residual. And I'm fine now, thank you!! It amazes me that you seem to think I am an anti-vaxer when in fact I have been vaccinated. I will not however be getting any boosters. So go ahead and get your boosters, I won't be. And if you think you are not going to eventually get covid in some form or variation, you are living in la la land. So, you’ve been crowing about your “natural immunity” 15 months after having covid. Now you’re saying you’ve been vaccinated. Seems your immunity isn’t so “natural” after all. Any other lies you want to fess up to? IF I get covid after being vaccinated and boosted, it will be much milder than anyone unvaccinated.
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Post by sassyangel on Dec 21, 2021 19:07:01 GMT
WOW!! You are so nice. I had covid BEFORE vaccines were available so I guess it was unavoidable that I was going to get it as my son brought it home from college and did not/do not wear a mask in my own house. I in fact, had a pretty severe case of it at that time and still only have about 70% of taste and smell as a residual. And I'm fine now, thank you!! It amazes me that you seem to think I am an anti-vaxer when in fact I have been vaccinated. I will not however be getting any boosters. So go ahead and get your boosters, I won't be. And if you think you are not going to eventually get covid in some form or variation, you are living in la la land. So, you’ve been crowing about your “natural immunity” 15 months after having covid. Now you’re saying you’ve been vaccinated. Seems your immunity isn’t so “natural” after all. Any other lies you want to fess up to? IF I get covid after being vaccinated and boosted, it will be much milder than anyone unvaccinated. The nerve of the faux outrage about niceness, from someone willing to run over protesters, is equal parts horrifyingly galling and ironically hilarious.
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Dec 21, 2021 20:59:29 GMT
I don't get why anyone would be anti-booster. Why is THAT the nail in the coffin? Most vaccines have boosters. Do you just say, eff the Dtap booster that comes around every ten years? "I'll risk tetanus. I did my part and got my original shots. I have a superior immune system. You sheep keep gettin' those tetanus boosters like the government tells you."
WTAF? People are just goofy.
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