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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 14:22:32 GMT
" What makes America so special? Nothing differentiates us from the other world powers -- China, Russia -- more than our commitment to the peaceful transition of power every four years.The idea that whether your preferred candidate wins that you a) accept the results of a presidential election as free and fair and b) recognize the winner as the president sits at the core of who we are as Americans. After a 36-day interregnum in which it wasn't clear whether Al Gore or George W. Bush had been elected president, Gore conceded the election following an adverse Supreme Court ruling.That he conceded was important. How he conceded mattered even more. "For the sake of our unity as a people and the strength of our democracy, I offer my concession," Gore said. "I also accept my responsibility, which I will discharge unconditionally, to honor the new president-elect and do everything possible to help him bring Americans together in fulfillment of the great vision that our Declaration of Independence defines and that our Constitution affirms and defends." Gore also cited the words of Stephen Douglas following a loss in the 1860 presidential race to Abraham Lincoln: "Partisan feeling must yield to patriotism. I'm with you, Mr. President, and God bless you." What Gore (and Douglas) understood was that this wasn't all about them. Of course they would have rather won. Of course they thought they would make a better president than their opponent. But they also understood that patriotism and loyalty to the country meant shelving their personal feelings in favor of doing the right thing for the country. Biden, in answer to reporters' questions about why he didn't mention Trump during his speech, flicked at that sentiment. Here's the key bit: "It's not about me. It's not about the vice president. It really isn't. That's the thing that bothers me most about the sort of attitude that seems to be emerging to some degree in American politics. ... It's not about me. It's not about whether I'm president and she's vice president. It's about the system and somebody who tries to put himself above everything." Think of it in another way. True sportsmanship isn't being gracious in victory. Anyone can do that. It's being gracious in defeat. And not just anyone can do that. The same goes for patriotism. It's easy to love your country when they elect you. Or give you what you want. It's a hell of a lot harder to love your country when you think they chose the wrong person or are headed down the wrong path. True patriotism isn't insisting you won even though there's no evidence to back up those claims. True patriotism is working within the system to make the country as great as it can be -- whether or not it feeds your personal interests. Joe Biden gets that. Donald Trump never has."www.cnn.com/2022/01/06/politics/joe-biden-january-6-speech-anniversary/index.htmlWhen I think of the millions who protested peacefully in their pussy hats after Clinton's loss vs. the animalistic behavior of the MAGAs I see two countries. Only one looks like America - the land of PEACEFUL TRANSITION OF POWER. The other looks like a tin-pot republic. TWO VERSIONS OF PROTEST OVER AN ELECTION - WHICH AMERICA DO YOU WANT TO LIVE IN?
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 7, 2022 16:20:01 GMT
twitter.com/i/status/822520685054394369 Violent protests Biden called Trump an illegitimate president and the Left spent 4 years trying to undo a peaceful transfer of power. Starting before Trump was ever sworn in. Your high horse is pretty low to the ground.
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Post by Just T on Jan 7, 2022 16:21:51 GMT
twitter.com/i/status/822520685054394369Biden called Trump an illegitimate president and the Left spent 4 years trying to undo a peaceful transfer of power. Starting before Trump was ever sworn in. And TRUMP spent more than 4 years ranting about how the 2020 election was going to be rigged. He started before he even was sworn in. He talked about primaries he lost being rigged. He spent years drilling this into peoples heads, with zero proof. But yeah, of course, you will defend him. You always do. |
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 7, 2022 16:25:19 GMT
twitter.com/i/status/822520685054394369Biden called Trump an illegitimate president and the Left spent 4 years trying to undo a peaceful transfer of power. Starting before Trump was ever sworn in. And TRUMP spent more than 4 years ranting about how the 2020 election was going to be rigged. He started before he even was sworn in. He talked about primaries he lost being rigged. He spent years drilling this into peoples heads, with zero proof. But yeah, of course, you will defend him. You always do. None of that erases the BS being spouted as moral superiority in the OP. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 16:34:46 GMT
Yeah, a handful of idiots (who I hope were arrested and convicted) is EXACTLY the same as MILLIONS of people peacefully protesting in 2017 and thousands destructively protesting in the Capitol. |
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Post by onelasttime on Jan 7, 2022 16:39:36 GMT
twitter.com/i/status/822520685054394369 Violent protests Biden called Trump an illegitimate president and the Left spent 4 years trying to undo a peaceful transfer of power. Starting before Trump was ever sworn in. Your high horse is pretty low to the ground. One really should read the responses to a tweet. This one summed it up nicely. |
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Post by lucyg on Jan 7, 2022 16:45:58 GMT
twitter.com/i/status/822520685054394369 Violent protests Biden called Trump an illegitimate president and the Left spent 4 years trying to undo a peaceful transfer of power. Starting before Trump was ever sworn in. Your high horse is pretty low to the ground. Wow, you’re really scraping the bottom of the barrel here. That was JUST LIKE an organized, armed insurrection that tried to literally overthrow an election and murder democratically elected leaders, including their own damn Vice President, right? How many law enforcement officers were dead or permanently disabled when the smoke cleared? I will look that up and report back. You do the same for your little 2017 skirmish, okay? |
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Post by lucyg on Jan 7, 2022 17:08:08 GMT
In addition to the officer who died of a stroke following a violent attack by protestors, two others took their own lives in the days that followed. There were two more suicides among responding officers in the months that followed, but the connection to 1/6 is more tenuous, so I won’t count those here. www.factcheck.org/2021/11/how-many-died-as-a-result-of-capitol-riot/I didn’t see any figures on permanent disability, but five months after the attack, 10 officers were still unable to return to work, and another seven were on limited duty. In all, over 150 officers were injured that day. www.cbsnews.com/news/capitol-police-injuries-riot/pixiechick |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 17:40:13 GMT
One really should read the responses to a tweet. This one summed it up nicely. Also did any Senators/House Reps give them the high fist salute and/or call them patriots? Did the "left wing media" drone on 24/7 about their patriotism? |
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 8, 2022 6:49:10 GMT
Yeah, a handful of idiots (who I hope were arrested and convicted) is EXACTLY the same as MILLIONS of people peacefully protesting in 2017 and thousands destructively protesting in the Capitol. Hundreds arrested for storming the capitol on January 6th and hundreds arrested for violently protesting Trump defies your claim of immorality on one side only. The Left is just as guilty of mass violence in several instances -just in the last few years, despite the claim of your OP. Biden calling Trump an illegitimate president, along with many others doing so publicly, trying to undo a peaceful transfer of power for 4 years even before he was even sworn in and when he was days away from leaving office, defies your claim of the Left being gracious in defeat. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 8, 2022 9:01:27 GMT
What you choose to not understand is the difference. Jan. 6th was a direct armed assault on the United States of America, the government et al.
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Post by gar on Jan 8, 2022 10:02:03 GMT
That he conceded was important. How he conceded mattered even more. Did trump ever concede defeat? "It's not about me. It's not about the vice president. It really isn't. That's the thing that bothers me most about the sort of attitude that seems to be emerging to some degree in American politics. ... It's not about me. It's not about whether I'm president and she's vice president. It's about the system and somebody who tries to put himself above everything." |
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Post by pilcas on Jan 8, 2022 13:35:05 GMT
twitter.com/i/status/822520685054394369Biden called Trump an illegitimate president and the Left spent 4 years trying to undo a peaceful transfer of power. Starting before Trump was ever sworn in. And TRUMP spent more than 4 years ranting about how the 2020 election was going to be rigged. He started before he even was sworn in. He talked about primaries he lost being rigged. He spent years drilling this into peoples heads, with zero proof. But yeah, of course, you will defend him. You always do. He was talking about the election being rigged days before the 2016 election when he was running against Clinton. Of course, when he won the issue was no longer a problem. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2022 13:38:01 GMT
The Left is just as guilty of mass violence in several instances -just in the last few years, despite the claim of your OP. False equivalence. See above. Did "left wing" media call the "left wing" protestors (really anarchists who the left disavows) "Patriots"? Did the Dem Senators and House Reps fist bump them and call them "Patriots"? False equivalence. Look into it. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jan 8, 2022 15:21:13 GMT
So many reasons your statement is a false equivalency, I don’t even know where to start. Clinton never personally called a Secretary of State, asking them to find 11,000 votes. Clinton and her team never tried to interfere in state certification of vote counts. She never invited Michigan lawmakers to meet with her. She and her team never pressured state legislatures to appoint electors loyal to her. Clinton never demanded strict loyalty to her from politicians, never attacked politicians from her own party and never threatened to primary them before or after the election. Clinton never undermined the press, never called them fake news. Clinton never asked VP Biden to object to the counting of votes. Only 1 Democratic Representative objected to the counting of votes in the 2016 election vs 127 in the 2020 election. Clinton did not have a team prepare plans with precise steps for how to overturn the results of the election. She did not have a team design a power point presentation of exactly how to overturn the results of a free and fair election. Clinton did not falsely claim for years that mail in ballots were rigged. Clinton agreed to a peaceful transition of power before the election, not conditional on the outcome. Trump agreed to a peaceful transition only if he won, both in 2016 and again in 2020. Democrats have not passed voter suppression laws based on the big lie. Democrats have not tried to hide, cover up, whitewash or lie about the violence on the day of Trump's inauguration. There was never a need for a commission to investigate what happened. Far right media sources and elected members of congress have repeatedly tried to cover up what happened on Jan 6, starting hours after it happened. Almost all of the Republicans voted against a bipartisan commission, after the Democrats conceded to all of their demands. Aside from Clinton calling Trump an illegitimate president, how did she try to undo a peaceful transfer of power? Did she file more than 60 court cases full of lies? The Obama administration fully cooperated with the Trump transition team, gave them full access, included them in daily briefings, invited them to the White House. Trump denied the Biden transition team the same access. Clinton conceded. Trump never did. Clinton never organized stop the steal rallies, never encouraged supporters to fight like hell. Clinton never sat back and watched as her supporters violently attacked the Capitol and tried to interfere with the election process, a constitutionally mandated function. The activists protesting at Trump's inauguration did not try to stop a peaceful transition of power, nor did they violently try to stop the counting of votes. The violence at Trump’s inauguration is unacceptable. However, you’re falsely comparing a protest to an insurrection. The scope, the depth, the extent of the events are so disparate. 200 arrested in DC at the inauguration. How many if those were prosecuted? So far, 725 people have been charged in the Jan 6 insurrection. 165 of those have pleaded guilty. 56 FBI offices, 94 US attorneys offices involved in the investigation and prosecution of the insurrectionists. So far, defendants have been charged with misdemeanors to felonies like assaulting a police officer with a deadly weapon. 40 have been charged with conspiracies. Estimates are 2,000-2,500 people entered the Capitol on Jan 6 6 police officers injured at Trump’s inauguration, 150 injured at the Jan 6 insurrection Clinton was never sued or investigated for the violence at Trump's inauguration. There's no evidence to suggest she had any part in it. There were never any congressional hearings for the protests, Clinton was never impeached. Trump was impeached for his actions and is currently being investigated and sued. www.cnn.com/2017/01/19/politics/trump-inauguration-protests-womens-march/index.htmlwww.npr.org/2022/01/06/1070736018/jan-6-anniversary-investigation-cases-defendants-justiceFalse equivalency, false comparison |
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Post by onelasttime on Jan 8, 2022 17:26:23 GMT
Yeah, a handful of idiots (who I hope were arrested and convicted) is EXACTLY the same as MILLIONS of people peacefully protesting in 2017 and thousands destructively protesting in the Capitol. Hundreds arrested for storming the capitol on January 6th and hundreds arrested for violently protesting Trump defies your claim of immorality on one side only. The Left is just as guilty of mass violence in several instances -just in the last few years, despite the claim of your OP. Biden calling Trump an illegitimate president, along with many others doing so publicly, trying to undo a peaceful transfer of power for 4 years even before he was even sworn in and when he was days away from leaving office, defies your claim of the Left being gracious in defeat. 1. Where are your examples of “mass violence” by the left. Mass violence that had to do with the election or specifically the trump presidency. I couldn’t find where President Biden called trump an illegitimate president. But I did find Hillary Clinton, John Lewis and Jimmy Carter called dumpster don an illegitimate president. And here’s why. From The Washington Post… “In June, former president Jimmy Carter used similar language to diminish Trump’s presidency. Carter said that in his view Trump lost the 2016 election and was put in office by the Russians. Asked if he considered Trump to be illegitimate, Carter said, “Based on what I just said, which I can’t retract.” The investigation by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III concluded that the Russian government interfered in the 2016 election “in sweeping and systematic fashion” with the goal of helping Trump and harming Clinton. But the report drew no conclusion about whether the interference changed the result, and did not establish a criminal conspiracy by the Trump campaign.”
The American People never got a definitive answer to how much Russia’s interfere helped trump win the election and just how much ,if any, did trump and his family knowingly helped the Russians mess with our elections in 2016. The reason the American People did not get an answer to the question is because.. 1. The parameters Robert Mueller was given for the investigation. 2. This ridiculous idea one can’t indict a sitting President. 3. Once the report was released Congress was denied a complete copy of the report so they could do their own investigation based on the information in the report. 4. Individuals who talked to Mueller’s team refused to talk to Congress. To put it bluntly, the American People got royally screwed. Because the American People had a right to know the entire series of events that occurred involving Russia, trump’s part if any, and holding him accountable for the list of instances where he may have deliberately obstructed Justice to keep information hidden. Just exactly what was he hiding? |
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Post by onelasttime on Jan 8, 2022 17:54:02 GMT
And while I was doing my research this morning I ran across another fun fact.
Again from the Washington Post…
October 20, 2016..
“Donald Trump says he will accept results of election — ‘if I win’
From the article.
“DELAWARE, Ohio — Donald Trump said Thursday that he would accept the results of the presidential election “if I win,” but he doubled down on his threat to legally challenge the results if he loses.
“America is a constitutional republic with a system of laws. These laws are triggered in the case of fraud or in the event of a recount where it is needed. Of course, I would accept a clear election result, but I would also reserve my right to contest or file a legal challenge in the case of a questionable result. Right?” Trump said at a Thursday afternoon rally at the Delaware County fairgrounds in this town just north of Columbus.”
The three key states that many say gave the win to trump are Michigan, Pennsylvania, & Wisconsin.
MI votes for trump & Hillary.
trump. 2,279,543
Hillary. 2,268,839
Difference. 10,704
PA
trump. 2,970,733
Hillary. 2,926,536
Difference. 44,292
WI
trump. 1,405,284
Hillary. 1,382,536
Difference. 22,748.
Total difference for the three states 77,744.
If Hillary had won these states by this margin what do you think trump would have done? Accept it? I mean some of these numbers are pretty darn close to the totals in the states trump lost in 2020 and that he challenged by claiming they were rigged against him.
What did Hillary do? She called dumpster don election night and conceded the election and gave her concession speech the next day. She didn’t whine about it. She just did it.
If I remember correctly only one of these three states had a recount and that was because the third party candidate Jill Stein paid for it. I believe they did find some a small number of miscounted votes, not enough to change outcome though.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 8, 2022 20:07:08 GMT
Yeah, a handful of idiots (who I hope were arrested and convicted) is EXACTLY the same as MILLIONS of people peacefully protesting in 2017 and thousands destructively protesting in the Capitol. Hundreds arrested for storming the capitol on January 6th and hundreds arrested for violently protesting Trump defies your claim of immorality on one side only. The Left is just as guilty of mass violence in several instances -just in the last few years, despite the claim of your OP. Biden calling Trump an illegitimate president, along with many others doing so publicly, trying to undo a peaceful transfer of power for 4 years even before he was even sworn in and when he was days away from leaving office, defies your claim of the Left being gracious in defeat. All of the responses to this are essentially "Yeah, but the fact that "our side" commits violence too doesn't matter because, blah blah blah." So I stand by the facts I stated. Did trump ever concede defeat? Yes, and it's verifiable, even through left leaning sources. And here's video for you: 1. Where are your examples of “mass violence” by the left. Mass violence that had to do with the election or specifically the trump presidency. My very first post, for one. |
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Post by lucyg on Jan 8, 2022 20:30:29 GMT
Oh, JFC. He’s a monster, he’s always been a monster, he’s only gotten more monstrous since he lost the 2020 election, and yet he still has that flag-waving fan club.  Lord help us all. |
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Post by onelasttime on Jan 8, 2022 21:05:04 GMT
Hundreds arrested for storming the capitol on January 6th and hundreds arrested for violently protesting Trump defies your claim of immorality on one side only. The Left is just as guilty of mass violence in several instances -just in the last few years, despite the claim of your OP. Biden calling Trump an illegitimate president, along with many others doing so publicly, trying to undo a peaceful transfer of power for 4 years even before he was even sworn in and when he was days away from leaving office, defies your claim of the Left being gracious in defeat. All of the responses to this are essentially "Yeah, but the fact that "our side" commits violence too doesn't matter because, blah blah blah." So I stand by the facts I stated. Did trump ever concede defeat? Yes, and it's verifiable, even through left leaning sources. And here's video for you: 1. Where are your examples of “mass violence” by the left. Mass violence that had to do with the election or specifically the trump presidency. My very first post, for one. From your post. ”hundreds arrested for violently protesting Trump defies your claim of immorality on one side only. The Left is just as guilty of mass violence in several instances - just in the last few years, despite the claim of your OP.” So your proof is… |
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 9, 2022 1:15:47 GMT
All of the responses to this are essentially "Yeah, but the fact that "our side" commits violence too doesn't matter because, blah blah blah." So I stand by the facts I stated. Yes, and it's verifiable, even through left leaning sources. And here's video for you: My very first post, for one.From your post. ”hundreds arrested for violently protesting Trump defies your claim of immorality on one side only. The Left is just as guilty of mass violence in several instances - just in the last few years, despite the claim of your OP.” So your proof is…You seemed to have missed this. Oh, JFC. He’s a monster, he’s always been a monster, he’s only gotten more monstrous since he lost the 2020 election, and yet he still has that flag-waving fan club.  Lord help us all. JFC, "you" ask a question meant to imply an untruth, then you smear the person who cleared up the misinformation. With that kind of mentality running so rampant, we ARE doomed. Lord help us all. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Jan 9, 2022 1:50:54 GMT
Yeah, a handful of idiots (who I hope were arrested and convicted) is EXACTLY the same as MILLIONS of people peacefully protesting in 2017 and thousands destructively protesting in the Capitol. Hundreds arrested for storming the capitol on January 6th and hundreds arrested for violently protesting Trump defies your claim of immorality on one side only. The Left is just as guilty of mass violence in several instances -just in the last few years, despite the claim of your OP. Biden calling Trump an illegitimate president, along with many others doing so publicly, trying to undo a peaceful transfer of power for 4 years even before he was even sworn in and when he was days away from leaving office, defies your claim of the Left being gracious in defeat. Conservatives have the dubious honor of being the only party that attempted to interrupt the certification of election electoral votes by the House. To this day, many Rs believe that the election was stolen. I will say that anyone, left or right, who does violence, or loots or burns buildings, should be arrested and prosecuted. No one has the right to damage or destroy someone else’s property. |
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Post by lucyg on Jan 9, 2022 1:51:26 GMT
From your post. ”hundreds arrested for violently protesting Trump defies your claim of immorality on one side only. The Left is just as guilty of mass violence in several instances - just in the last few years, despite the claim of your OP.” So your proof is…You seemed to have missed this. Oh, JFC. He’s a monster, he’s always been a monster, he’s only gotten more monstrous since he lost the 2020 election, and yet he still has that flag-waving fan club. Lord help us all. JFC, "you" ask a question meant to imply an untruth, then you smear the person who cleared up the misinformation. With that kind of mentality running so rampant, we ARE doomed. Lord help us all. I’m still waiting for the results of your research into how many cops were killed, injured, or permanently disabled by the widespread, massive, violent protests by anti-Trump forces in January 2017. You know, the ones that were totally equivalent to the organized, armed attempt to overthrow our democratic government and execute any leaders who didn’t fall into line with the former president on 1/6/21. |
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 9, 2022 2:15:23 GMT
You seemed to have missed this. JFC, "you" ask a question meant to imply an untruth, then you smear the person who cleared up the misinformation. With that kind of mentality running so rampant, we ARE doomed. Lord help us all. I’m still waiting for the results of your research into how many cops were killed, injured, or permanently disabled by the widespread, massive, violent protests by anti-Trump forces in January 2017. You know, the ones that were totally equivalent to the organized, armed attempt to overthrow our democratic government and execute any leaders who didn’t fall into line with the former president on 1/6/21. That's great, that's not an argument I am making so you and your strawman can sit and wait together. |
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Post by onelasttime on Jan 9, 2022 3:10:18 GMT
twitter.com/i/status/822520685054394369 Violent protests Biden called Trump an illegitimate president and the Left spent 4 years trying to undo a peaceful transfer of power. Starting before Trump was ever sworn in. Your high horse is pretty low to the ground. Below is a Politifact check on your to your claim “The left spent 4 years trying to undo a peaceful transfer of power”. By the way, you may want to look up the definition of “peaceful transfer of power” because the way you used it in you comment makes me think you don’t understand it. I could not find where Joe Biden said dumpster don was illegitimate president. But maybe you were confused and President Biden said he was an illiterate president which he is. However I did point out Hillary Clinton, John Lewis, and Jimmy Carter did say he was an illegitimate president because to this day we still don’t how much the meddling by the Russians in the election was instrumental in dumpster don winning the election by 77,000 votes at the same time losing the popular vote by 3,000,000+ votes. From PolitiFact.. linkClaim by Jody Hice… “Democrats “spent 4 years refusing to acknowledge Trump’s 2016 victory.”Our ruling “Hice claimed that Democrats have spent four years refusing to acknowledge Trump’s 2016 victory. While there were some dissident voices that questioned the legitimacy of Trump’s election, top Democrats acknowledged Trump’s win and referred to him as the president-elect less than a day after election results became clear. Those leaders included Clinton, Obama, Democratic leaders in Congress and the DNC. Trump and his supporters have claimed that the investigation into Russian involvement in the election and the 2019 impeachment represented Democrats’ refusal to accept the 2016 election result. The conclusion that Russia interfered in the election was supported by law enforcement, intelligence agencies and a bipartisan Senate panel, not just Democrats. And the impeachment was a response to a whistleblower’s complaint about alleged wrongdoing. Hice goes too far in his claim that Democrats spent four years refusing to acknowledge Trump's victory, and provides no evidence for it. We rate this claim False.” |
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Post by onelasttime on Jan 9, 2022 3:21:50 GMT
From your post. ”hundreds arrested for violently protesting Trump defies your claim of immorality on one side only. The Left is just as guilty of mass violence in several instances - just in the last few years, despite the claim of your OP.” So your proof is…You seemed to have missed this. Oh, JFC. He’s a monster, he’s always been a monster, he’s only gotten more monstrous since he lost the 2020 election, and yet he still has that flag-waving fan club. Lord help us all. JFC, "you" ask a question meant to imply an untruth, then you smear the person who cleared up the misinformation. With that kind of mentality running so rampant, we ARE doomed. Lord help us all. Missed what? There is nothing there to miss. Unless you typed it so small one needs a magnifying glass to see it. Did you. Meanwhile I’m still waiting for all the violent attacks you eluded to. It should be fairly simple to list a few. And while you are at it, please be sure to include how many police or law enforcement folks were killed like at the January 6 2021 attack against our country. You know because we need to make a true comparison. Although I’m not sure you can make a true comparison because the one on January 6, 2021 was an attack against the Capital with the goal to stop the certification of a legal election by a group of individuals ginned up by a sitting United States President. And in the process the possible killing of the Vice President of the United States and the Speaker of the House. I mean they did build a gallows. But try anyhow. Let’s see how well you do. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2022 5:04:36 GMT
Let me try again, since it's not getting through to some:
MILLIONS OF MEN AND WOMEN PROTESTED THE ELECTION OF TRUMP w/peace, w/no attack on the capital, no desecration of our system of government.
SEVERAL THOUSAND PROTESTED THE ELECTION OF BIDEN with death, destruction and an attempted coup.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 9, 2022 6:29:30 GMT
twitter.com/i/status/822520685054394369 Violent protests Biden called Trump an illegitimate president and the Left spent 4 years trying to undo a peaceful transfer of power. Starting before Trump was ever sworn in. Your high horse is pretty low to the ground. From PolitiFact.. linkClaim by Jody Hice… “Democrats “spent 4 years refusing to acknowledge Trump’s 2016 victory.”We rate this claim False.”Again, not a claim I'm making. What I DID say is "trying to undo a peaceful transfer of power for 4 years even before he was even sworn in and when he was days away from leaving office". 2 different things. |
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 9, 2022 6:30:28 GMT
Let me try again, since it's not getting through to some: MILLIONS OF MEN AND WOMEN PROTESTED THE ELECTION OF TRUMP w/peace, w/no attack on the capital, no desecration of our system of government. SEVERAL THOUSAND PROTESTED THE ELECTION OF BIDEN with death, destruction and an attempted coup. And I stand by my statement: Hundreds arrested for storming the capitol on January 6th and hundreds arrested for violently protesting Trump defies your claim of immorality on one side only. The Left is just as guilty of mass violence in several instances -just in the last few years, despite the claim of your OP. Biden calling Trump an illegitimate president, along with many others doing so publicly, trying to undo a peaceful transfer of power for 4 years even before he was even sworn in and when he was days away from leaving office, defies your claim of the Left being gracious in defeat. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2022 13:31:01 GMT
And I stand by my statement: Of course you do. It's the hallmark of the beliefs>evidence, non-critical thinking crowd. |
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