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Post by CardBoxer on Jan 25, 2022 15:52:06 GMT
Totally inappropriate - and all he did was give Fox a great soundbite to emphasize their "he's old and doddering angle". Oh nonsense. First off, one sentence is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. (Exception: grab them by the pussy.) They’d call Einstein old and doddering if he was alive and 45 years old if it suited their political bent. Second, calling someone an SOB has zero to do with dodderingness (made up word). Third, given the reporter’s history, good for Biden. Compared to the massive number of cruel, crude, crass comments trump made, SOB is a butterfly landing on a spring leaf. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 25, 2022 17:02:09 GMT
Totally inappropriate - and all he did was give Fox a great soundbite to emphasize their "he's old and doddering angle". Oh nonsense. First off, one sentence is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. (Exception: grab them by the pussy.) They’d call Einstein old and doddering if he was alive and 45 years old if it suited their political bent. Second, calling someone an SOB has zero to do with dodderingness (made up word). Third, given the reporter’s history, good for Biden. Compared to the massive number of cruel, crude, crass comments trump made, SOB is a butterfly landing on a spring leaf. we'll never get out of the gutter that was Trump's presidency by using him as any kind of barometer of acceptable behavior. Both parties have moved on, so hopefully the news cycle will as well. |
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 25, 2022 17:03:08 GMT
Yes, I think it was a very nice thing to do--to call Doocy and clear the air. And I think Doocy responded extremely graciously even telling Hannity (who said it wasn't exactly an apology) that it was all he needed and he appreciated the call. I think President Biden showed class with this call. Yes, I agree. I feel like President Biden feels really badly about it. I'm relieved they both handled it between them, and yes, Doocy could have really ran with it and he didn't. Maybe this little incident will change the animosity between them. I'm hoping they had a good heart to heart talk. One can hope. He has the luxury of being able to be magnanimous, though. The network he works for will most certainly run with and use it, even if he personally doesn’t. As they have been for the past year. 😏 |
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 25, 2022 17:15:32 GMT
Oh nonsense. First off, one sentence is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. (Exception: grab them by the pussy.) They’d call Einstein old and doddering if he was alive and 45 years old if it suited their political bent. Second, calling someone an SOB has zero to do with dodderingness (made up word). Third, given the reporter’s history, good for Biden. Compared to the massive number of cruel, crude, crass comments trump made, SOB is a butterfly landing on a spring leaf. we'll never get out of the gutter that was Trump's presidency by using him as any kind of barometer of acceptable behavior. Both parties have moved on, so hopefully the news cycle will as well. I just think it’s honestly a false comparison, to compare what was clearly a ‘hot mic moment’ to the deliberate enabled rudeness of the last four years. Rudeness that is unchanged and unapologized for and continues even today every time one of them opens their mouths. THAT is the reason we’re not getting out of the gutter, not a (granted) slip up by a man who is usually gracious, even when clearly pushed. I do think given it was obviously not intended to be heard, that apologizing was the right thing to do, though. Even if he was right. 😏😀 |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 25, 2022 17:43:28 GMT
we'll never get out of the gutter that was Trump's presidency by using him as any kind of barometer of acceptable behavior. Both parties have moved on, so hopefully the news cycle will as well. I just think it’s honestly a false comparison, to compare what was clearly a ‘hot mic moment’ to the deliberate enabled rudeness of the last four years. Rudeness that is unchanged and unapologized for and continues even today every time one of them opens their mouths. THAT is the reason we’re not getting out of the gutter, not a (granted) slip up by a man who is usually gracious, even when clearly pushed. I do think given it was obviously not intended to be heard, that apologizing was the right thing to do, though. Even if he was right. 😏😀 I'm not comparing what President Biden said with Trump - I am responding to the multiple comments that well Trump said worse. Trump was an abomination - I will make my commentary on what I feel is acceptable for the POTUS without ever considering his behavior as I refuse to let that be any type of metric of acceptability. |
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Post by huskergal on Jan 25, 2022 18:00:19 GMT
After all the things Trump, this is much ado about nothing! I don't recall Fox news ever calling out Trump.
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Post by onelasttime on Jan 25, 2022 18:25:18 GMT
Here is the “SOB” asking a question at today’s press briefing.
The question is “The Secretary of State a few days ago tweeted I #standwithUkraine. Has that ever stopped an authoritarian regime from doing anything, a hashtag?”.
I mean seriously?
He has a long history of asking these types of questions as noted in a response from John McCain that was posted on this thread.
This is not meant to be any excuse for what President Biden said because I don’t have a problem with it. Especially since he apologized later. It’s just providing a little clearer picture who this guy is.
By the way President Biden’s comment was not from someone who could be considered “old and doddering” . That was quick & precise response that he didn’t filter first. I’m pretty sure all of us regardless of our age, have done that before ourselves.
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Post by oh yvonne on Jan 25, 2022 20:11:22 GMT
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Post by mollycoddle on Jan 25, 2022 20:20:09 GMT
Here is the “SOB” asking a question at today’s press briefing. The question is “The Secretary of State a few days ago tweeted I #standwithUkraine. Has that ever stopped an authoritarian regime from doing anything, a hashtag?”. I mean seriously? He has a long history of asking these types of questions as noted in a response from John McCain that was posted on this thread. This is not meant to be any excuse for what President Biden said because I don’t have a problem with it. Especially since he apologized later. It’s just providing a little clearer picture who this guy is. By the way President Biden’s comment was not from someone who could be considered “old and doddering” . That was quick & precise response that he didn’t filter first. I’m pretty sure all of us regardless of our age, have done that before ourselves. I don’t know why he keeps trying. 😁😁 |
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Post by MichyM on Jan 25, 2022 20:22:20 GMT
I just think it’s honestly a false comparison, to compare what was clearly a ‘hot mic moment’ to the deliberate enabled rudeness of the last four years. Rudeness that is unchanged and unapologized for and continues even today every time one of them opens their mouths. THAT is the reason we’re not getting out of the gutter, not a (granted) slip up by a man who is usually gracious, even when clearly pushed. I do think given it was obviously not intended to be heard, that apologizing was the right thing to do, though. Even if he was right. 😏😀 I'm not comparing what President Biden said with Trump - I am responding to the multiple comments that well Trump said worse. Trump was an abomination - I will make my commentary on what I feel is acceptable for the POTUS without ever considering his behavior as I refuse to let that be any type of metric of acceptability.  I have become increasingly disappointed with peas on "my side." The hypocrisy and whataboutisms are out of hand, don't do anyone any good, and I see it here all the time. It would be lovely to have discussions without them. |
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Post by Merge on Jan 25, 2022 20:49:15 GMT
God I love this woman and her #psakibomb s Watch out; apparently we're only allowed to voice disappointment and disapproval when Biden or one of his people use regular human language or are snarky in public. Otherwise we're not allowed in the conversation. (I agree with you, BTW.) |
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 26, 2022 2:11:52 GMT
I just think it’s honestly a false comparison, to compare what was clearly a ‘hot mic moment’ to the deliberate enabled rudeness of the last four years. Rudeness that is unchanged and unapologized for and continues even today every time one of them opens their mouths. THAT is the reason we’re not getting out of the gutter, not a (granted) slip up by a man who is usually gracious, even when clearly pushed. I do think given it was obviously not intended to be heard, that apologizing was the right thing to do, though. Even if he was right. 😏😀 I'm not comparing what President Biden said with Trump - I am responding to the multiple comments that well Trump said worse. Trump was an abomination - I will make my commentary on what I feel is acceptable for the POTUS without ever considering his behavior as I refuse to let that be any type of metric of acceptability. Fair enough.  It is unfortunate that we even have him as any kind of yardstick (for anything!) at all. |
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Post by Just T on Jan 26, 2022 2:44:22 GMT
Fair enough.  It is unfortunate that we even have him as any kind of yardstick (for anything!) at all. So true! Even before Trump, I would not have liked a president of the US to talk shit about another country, or anyone in our country. We certainly had presidents I didn't like, but none of them ever talked the way Trump did. I could NOT stand the way he talked shit about senators, governors and world leaders that he didn't like. I found it so appalling. That was one of the things I most looked forward to when he was not reelected...bringing dignity back. But...I voted for Biden (more against Trump), and I do NOT like what Joe Biden said. BUT, he did apologize. When did Trump EVER apologize for the shitty things he said? Did Trump apologize about bragging that he grabbed women's pussies? NOPE. Did Trump apologize when he made fun of the disabled reporter? NOPE. Did Trump apologize for any of the racist things he did/said? Nope. So while I do hate that Biden stooped to the level that Trump set for the country, I also can cut him some slack. That Fox "reporter" is horrible. I can't even imagine having to deal with him on a regular basis. But again, Biden apologized to him. That makes things way different in my book. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jan 26, 2022 3:04:11 GMT
I'm not comparing what President Biden said with Trump - I am responding to the multiple comments that well Trump said worse. Trump was an abomination - I will make my commentary on what I feel is acceptable for the POTUS without ever considering his behavior as I refuse to let that be any type of metric of acceptability.  I have become increasingly disappointed with peas on "my side." The hypocrisy and whataboutisms are out of hand, don't do anyone any good, and I see it here all the time. It would be lovely to have discussions without them. I don't think its hypocrisy if you're making a false comparison. You can be outraged at what Trump said about women or directly to reporters and not be concerned about what Biden said. The difference - Trump did it deliberately to a room full of reporters. What Biden said wasn't presidential or gentlemanly, but he said it when reporters were leaving the room and he thought the microphone was off. He made a mistake, took responsibility and called to apologize. I'm not using what Trump did or said to justify what Biden did, I just don't think it's a fair comparison or hypocrisy. |
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Post by Merge on Jan 26, 2022 3:30:06 GMT
I just think it’s honestly a false comparison, to compare what was clearly a ‘hot mic moment’ to the deliberate enabled rudeness of the last four years. Rudeness that is unchanged and unapologized for and continues even today every time one of them opens their mouths. THAT is the reason we’re not getting out of the gutter, not a (granted) slip up by a man who is usually gracious, even when clearly pushed. I do think given it was obviously not intended to be heard, that apologizing was the right thing to do, though. Even if he was right. 😏😀 I'm not comparing what President Biden said with Trump - I am responding to the multiple comments that well Trump said worse. Trump was an abomination - I will make my commentary on what I feel is acceptable for the POTUS without ever considering his behavior as I refuse to let that be any type of metric of acceptability. For me, the purpose of comparison is not to say, oh, Trump was worse, this is no big deal. It's to point out the hypocrisy in Fox and other media sources making this kind of thing a big deal when it wasn't for others. Did anyone freak out when McCain said what he said directly to the same "journalist," no accident or hot mic involved? You were the one who brought up Fox having a field day with it. Why does that matter? I also feel, honestly, like there's some pointless virtue signaling going on here in any non-MAGA disapproval of what happened. Biden wasn't being malicious. He didn't even intend for the comment to be heard. Why the need to censure him? Just to show that we're better than the MAGAs? Meh. Seems pointless to me. We do a good job of policing our own when they're legitimately in the wrong. We don't leave our sex offenders in the Senate. Why the need to leap to vocal disapproval of Biden for something that happened unintentionally? |
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Post by aj2hall on Jan 26, 2022 4:45:34 GMT
This feels like another situation where Democrats are being held to a higher standard by Fox and conservatives as well as their own party. Trump supporters are the ones shouting Let’s Go Brandon, I doubt Fox is calling them out. And they certainly never called out Trump for his inexcusable behavior.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 26, 2022 5:37:34 GMT
Talk about doddering - but it's drugs, not old age. The dude needs help. Hunter was a raging drug addict. With Hunter we know for certain it was drugs. Do we KNOW it's drugs with Jr? Or is it idiotically tweeting while drinking? I agree. But it’s a tiny blip for me. I do think that he needs to talk more about how inflation is a worldwide problem, and give updates on supply chain shortages. He could have taken it as an opportunity to reassure Americans about it. Instead, he decided to stoop to a level supposedly beneath him. I think if he said it directly to the reporter intentionally in a room full of reporters, I might feel differently. But, if the reporters were leaving and he kind of said it under his breath? I'm OK with that and willing to give him a pass, as long as he doesn't make a regular habit of it. He DID say it intentionally. HE chose those words and chose to say them. And I don't think it makes it better. Integrity is doing the right thing, even when you think no one is watching. Or listening in this case. He was given an opportunity to reassure Americans about inflation and the choice HE made was to insult a reporter instead. He actually does make a habit of snapping at reporters and people. He did several times during his campaign, he did it at this press conference, he did it last week to a reporter and I believe there was another one last week or the week before. So he doesn't deserve a pass based on the idea that he doesn't make a habit of it, because he clearly does make a habit of it. I don’t really care that it happened though because him calling to apologize just elevates him. No deflecting, no blaming others, no pretending it didn’t happen or that it was okay. That’s how we teach our children - when you’re in the wrong, and you absolutely will be at times because you are human, you humble yourself and apologize. He didn't apologize. His words "it's nothing personal, pal" is not an apology and sure does make it seem like he thinks it was okay. I don't recall Fox news ever calling out Trump. Do you watch Fox news? I've heard them call him out many, many, many times in the last 5-6 years. I have become increasingly disappointed with peas on "my side." The hypocrisy and whataboutisms are out of hand, don't do anyone any good, and I see it here all the time. It would be lovely to have discussions without them. This. SO MUCH THIS. And the fact that Biden actually called afterward to apologize more than redeems the slight infraction. Biden actually called afterward to apologize more than redeems the slight infraction. Especially since he apologized later. It’s just providing a little clearer picture who this guy is. He made a mistake, took responsibility and called to apologize. "It's nothing personal, pal." is not an apology by any stretch of the imagination. |
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Post by CardBoxer on Jan 26, 2022 12:41:15 GMT
Oh nonsense. First off, one sentence is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. (Exception: grab them by the pussy.) They’d call Einstein old and doddering if he was alive and 45 years old if it suited their political bent. Second, calling someone an SOB has zero to do with dodderingness (made up word). Third, given the reporter’s history, good for Biden. Compared to the massive number of cruel, crude, crass comments trump made, SOB is a butterfly landing on a spring leaf. we'll never get out of the gutter that was Trump's presidency by using him as any kind of barometer of acceptable behavior. Both parties have moved on, so hopefully the news cycle will as well. You’d be right - other than one party still embraces his gutter and anti-democracy politics, so the beat goes on. But to your point, taking comparisons off the table, I don’t think calling a reporter like that one an SOB would be a big deal by any president. Human, mic mistakenly (?) on. But that might be because of where I draw the cursing line in general. Like if someone said SOB in public I wouldn’t blink unless it was shouted or threatening. But I wouldn’t be as comfortable hearing MF. And yes, of course many people think the president’s standards should be higher than those of the average joe, no pun intended. Ha. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Jan 26, 2022 13:05:47 GMT
This feels like another situation where Democrats are being held to a higher standard by Fox and conservatives as well as their own party. Trump supporters are the ones shouting Let’s Go Brandon, I doubt Fox is calling them out. And they certainly never called out Trump for his inexcusable behavior. For me, it’s not so much about Fox or any other RW media outlet. Trump’s supporters were frequently silent about his cruelty, and many laughed about it. Biden said something that he shouldn’t have said. He apologized and Pete Doocy accepted his apology. I laugh at Doocy sparring with Psaki and getting dunked all of the time, but he was very good-natured about it, so kudos to him. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 26, 2022 15:09:45 GMT
Honestly, we're still talking about this?!?! It was a Biden "supporter" who started the thread - they thought it was cute. I said it was inappropriate. I'm not outraged. I didn't expect anyone to denounce Biden. I didn't post on social media about it. I said yesterday that the parties apologized and hopefully the news cycle will move on. It wasn't "Breaking News" to begin with, but if you don't want people to comment on the President behavior, don't start a thread about it and if you do, realize that some people might not think it was dignified. That isn't a commentary on his behavior vs Trump or an expectation that anyone else will comment.
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Post by huskergal on Jan 26, 2022 15:11:41 GMT
For swearing? For use of language? I can find absolutely nothing. If there is evidence, I will happily admit I am wrong.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jan 26, 2022 15:23:39 GMT
Honestly, we're still talking about this?!?! It was a Biden "supporter" who started the thread - they thought it was cute. I said it was inappropriate. I'm not outraged. I didn't expect anyone to denounce Biden. I didn't post on social media about it. I said yesterday that the parties apologized and hopefully the news cycle will move on. It wasn't "Breaking News" to begin with, but if you don't want people to comment on the President behavior, don't start a thread about it and if you do, realize that some people might not think it was dignified. That isn't a commentary on his behavior vs Trump or an expectation that anyone else will comment. Darcy, you know how this works. Someone posts something that interest you, or that you have a different take on, and you respond. Many threads outlive their news value, but that doesn’t automatically mean that people don’t have something to say. This thread is no different. |
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Post by MichyM on Jan 26, 2022 15:46:16 GMT
I have become increasingly disappointed with peas on "my side." The hypocrisy and whataboutisms are out of hand, don't do anyone any good, and I see it here all the time. It would be lovely to have discussions without them. I don't think its hypocrisy if you're making a false comparison. You can be outraged at what Trump said about women or directly to reporters and not be concerned about what Biden said. The difference - Trump did it deliberately to a room full of reporters. What Biden said wasn't presidential or gentlemanly, but he said it when reporters were leaving the room and he thought the microphone was off. He made a mistake, took responsibility and called to apologize. I'm not using what Trump did or said to justify what Biden did, I just don't think it's a fair comparison or hypocrisy. My thought on hypocrisy is that if a (not trump) Republican president called a journalist for a progressive institution a stupid SOB, I believe the democrats on this board would be outraged, not applauding. |
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Post by elaine on Jan 26, 2022 16:00:39 GMT
Honestly, we're still talking about this?!?! It was a Biden "supporter" who started the thread - they thought it was cute. I said it was inappropriate. I'm not outraged. I didn't expect anyone to denounce Biden. I didn't post on social media about it. I said yesterday that the parties apologized and hopefully the news cycle will move on. It wasn't "Breaking News" to begin with, but if you don't want people to comment on the President behavior, don't start a thread about it and if you do, realize that some people might not think it was dignified. That isn't a commentary on his behavior vs Trump or an expectation that anyone else will comment. Darcy, you know how this works. Someone posts something that interest you, or that you have a different take on, and you respond. Many threads outlive their news value, but that doesn’t automatically mean that people don’t have something to say. This thread is no different. Yes, but this is also a little different than the norm. Darcy, me and a number of other people have expressed their views that it was inappropriate for a POTUS to call a reporter an SOB where the public could hear. That has been run with by a number of other people who are now complaining that we are denigrating them and trying to silence them for the opposing view that it was just fine. I haven’t seen anyone try to silence people who are fine with it, nor denigrate them. It is quite frustrating to read, sitting from where I sit. No one who knows me here can doubt that I am a staunch liberal and that I despised the former President with a passion. I am not trying to silence anyone on the left here. I DO think the comment was inappropriate, even after reading the responses. I don’t care that other people feel differently. That is certainly their right. I’m not trying to argue with them, I’m not trying to silence them. Simply because my (or Darcy’s) views are different, doesn’t mean that we are trying to stop people from speaking/expressing their views. |
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Post by CardBoxer on Jan 26, 2022 16:08:11 GMT
I don't think its hypocrisy if you're making a false comparison. You can be outraged at what Trump said about women or directly to reporters and not be concerned about what Biden said. The difference - Trump did it deliberately to a room full of reporters. What Biden said wasn't presidential or gentlemanly, but he said it when reporters were leaving the room and he thought the microphone was off. He made a mistake, took responsibility and called to apologize. I'm not using what Trump did or said to justify what Biden did, I just don't think it's a fair comparison or hypocrisy. My thought on hypocrisy is that if a (not trump) Republican president called a journalist for a progressive institution a stupid SOB, I believe the democrats on this board would be outraged, not applauding. It would depend on the journalist. Pulitzer prize winner? Or lightweight grandstander? If it was the former I’d think the republican president was a stupid SOB for saying it. (And my cartoon mind would flash to the journalist saying, “Anything you say to me bounces off me and sticks to you.”) If it was the latter I’d shrug. Yes, I think there are lightweight and grandstanding democrats too. It is politics and there are egos, after all. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Jan 26, 2022 16:11:18 GMT
Darcy, you know how this works. Someone posts something that interest you, or that you have a different take on, and you respond. Many threads outlive their news value, but that doesn’t automatically mean that people don’t have something to say. This thread is no different. Yes, but this is also a little different than the norm. Darcy, me and a number of other people have expressed their views that it was inappropriate for a POTUS to call a reporter an SOB where the public could hear. That has been run with by a number of other people who are now complaining that we are denigrating them and trying to silence them for the opposing view that it was just fine. I haven’t seen anyone try to silence people who are fine with it, nor denigrate them. It is quite frustrating to read, sitting from where I sit. No one who knows me here can doubt that I am a staunch liberal and that I despised the former President with a passion. I am not trying to silence anyone on the left here. I DO think the comment was inappropriate, even after reading the responses. I don’t care that other people feel differently. That is certainly their right. I’m not trying to argue with them, I’m not trying to silence them. Simply because my (or Darcy’s) views are different, doesn’t mean that we are trying to stop people from speaking/expressing their views. I think that it’s fine to disagree. I really don’t disagree with you much. I was responding to this: “ Honestly, we're still talking about this?!?!” |
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Post by elaine on Jan 26, 2022 16:12:31 GMT
Yes, but this is also a little different than the norm. Darcy, me and a number of other people have expressed their views that it was inappropriate for a POTUS to call a reporter an SOB where the public could hear. That has been run with by a number of other people who are now complaining that we are denigrating them and trying to silence them for the opposing view that it was just fine. I haven’t seen anyone try to silence people who are fine with it, nor denigrate them. It is quite frustrating to read, sitting from where I sit. No one who knows me here can doubt that I am a staunch liberal and that I despised the former President with a passion. I am not trying to silence anyone on the left here. I DO think the comment was inappropriate, even after reading the responses. I don’t care that other people feel differently. That is certainly their right. I’m not trying to argue with them, I’m not trying to silence them. Simply because my (or Darcy’s) views are different, doesn’t mean that we are trying to stop people from speaking/expressing their views. I think that it’s fine to disagree. I really don’t disagree with you much. I was responding to this: “ Honestly, we're still talking about this?!?!” 👍🏻 Eta: there are others on this thread complaining that they are being put down or that people are trying to silence them, and I was also responding to that. So, not you necessarily. I just felt the need to say it after reading the thread this morning. |
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Post by oh yvonne on Jan 26, 2022 16:18:00 GMT
Coming back to post that I am disappointed that President Biden didn't actually apologize, but he still did the right thing and clear the air. The apology would have rung hollow/disingenuous anyway because we all know he really did mean what he said. He wasn't lying, that's for sure.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jan 26, 2022 16:20:42 GMT
I think that it’s fine to disagree. I really don’t disagree with you much. I was responding to this: “ Honestly, we're still talking about this?!?!” 👍🏻 Eta: there are others on this thread complaining that they are being put down or that people are trying to silence them, and I was also responding to that. So, not you necessarily. I just felt the need to say it after reading the thread this morning. Gotcha. 👍🏻 |
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Post by CardBoxer on Jan 26, 2022 16:21:43 GMT
Darcy, you know how this works. Someone posts something that interest you, or that you have a different take on, and you respond. Many threads outlive their news value, but that doesn’t automatically mean that people don’t have something to say. This thread is no different. Yes, but this is also a little different than the norm. Darcy, me and a number of other people have expressed their views that it was inappropriate for a POTUS to call a reporter an SOB where the public could hear. That has been run with by a number of other people who are now complaining that we are denigrating them and trying to silence them for the opposing view that it was just fine. I haven’t seen anyone try to silence people who are fine with it, nor denigrate them. It is quite frustrating to read, sitting from where I sit. No one who knows me here can doubt that I am a staunch liberal and that I despised the former President with a passion. I am not trying to silence anyone on the left here. I DO think the comment was inappropriate, even after reading the responses. I don’t care that other people feel differently. That is certainly their right. I’m not trying to argue with them, I’m not trying to silence them. Simply because my (or Darcy’s) views are different, doesn’t mean that we are trying to stop people from speaking/expressing their views. I respect your saying that it was inappropriate, and understand why, even though I see it differently. We just view what’s appropriate or not for a - any - president to say differently. That’s 100% okay - we don’t have to be in lockstep, and it does not show disloyalty to your beliefs or who you support. Bringing it down to an admittedly absurd level, I’d guess we’ve all at one time or another told a loved one we didn’t like what they said or that they shouldn’t have said it. It doesn’t mean we don’t have their back. |
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