stittsygirl
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Post by stittsygirl on Feb 10, 2022 17:02:04 GMT
I think they were divorced. And yes, that's way too young to die! I didn't realize that they were divorced. I looked up his obituary and it was insanely confusing to read with all the (mother) (husband) (wife) stuff in parentheses, but it didn't mention him being a husband or leaving a wife behind. And since my mom taught me "if you can't say anything nice...". I will say COVID is a terrible disease and I hope he had taken all the steps he could have to mitigate it so that he didn't have to leave his family behind when he was only 57. I looked it up as well, and it was confusing, but it didn’t look as if he had been married when he passed. He and were born in the same hospital, and it appears he died there as well. Too young ☹️. |
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Post by bc2ca on Feb 10, 2022 23:59:16 GMT
I didn't realize that they were divorced. I looked up his obituary and it was insanely confusing to read with all the (mother) (husband) (wife) stuff in parentheses, but it didn't mention him being a husband or leaving a wife behind. I don't know why, but it really surprised me to see they were divorced. I guess I thought I would have heard about it here.  The obituary is very oddly worded IMHO and it took me a few minutes to connect that the first (mother) is his first wife & mother of his oldest daughter. naby64, I checked out Becky's IG and was surprised she hasn't said anything. Stacy Julian posted the viewing, etc., info and a message to keep Lisa in your thoughts. |
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Post by Bridget in MD on Feb 11, 2022 0:32:09 GMT
I didn't realize that they were divorced. I looked up his obituary and it was insanely confusing to read with all the (mother) (husband) (wife) stuff in parentheses, but it didn't mention him being a husband or leaving a wife behind. I don't know why, but it really surprised me to see they were divorced. I guess I thought I would have heard about it here.  The obituary is very oddly worded IMHO and it took me a few minutes to connect that the first (mother) is his first wife & mother of his oldest daughter. naby64 , I checked out Becky's IG and was surprised she hasn't said anything. Stacy Julian posted the viewing, etc., info and a message to keep Lisa in your thoughts. I saw becky posted on one of the kid’s IG i think Lisa was his second marriage. Didn’t he have a daughter from the first marriage? Stefyn or something |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2022 0:47:13 GMT
That's very sad for his family.
Searched for the obituary. That is a confusing mess the way they have the relatives listed (much more so than obituaries in general). Is that an LDS thing?
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Post by Tamhugh on Feb 11, 2022 1:58:56 GMT
I don’t think they were divorced. Lisa was mentioned in his obituary, but it was worded oddly. I followed her on IG and at least ip through their daughter’s wedding last year, they were together.
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Post by naby64 on Feb 11, 2022 2:18:47 GMT
I don’t think they were divorced. Lisa was mentioned in his obituary, but it was worded oddly. I followed her on IG and at least ip through their daughter’s wedding last year, they were together. ok, after a second read through I found Lisa's name after Sage. But like others have stated, it is a strangely laid out obit. Here in the south, if there was a spouse, they are listed first. Then children and spouses if any, grandchildren, then siblings. Or at least around my neck of the woods. |
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Post by scrappintoee on Feb 11, 2022 2:37:49 GMT
So sad for them! Oh my. That’s so sad. I remember watching her and David Venable (spelling???) on QVC. I LOVED them together! One time, I recorded them and dubbed multiple VHS tapes and mailed 'em to some friends. One of them lived in Argentina and came allll the way to San Antonio for CKU. Needless to say, she was very grateful to get such an amusing video (wow, was there REALLY a time we couldn't find any and every thing online?)  I will always be grateful to CK for making scrapbooking so much more fun for me, and for leading me to 2peas via an ad in the magazine! Me too! That's also how I found twopeas---21 years ago. It's funny but many years ago at CKC I attended a very messy class she taught and was such a fan girl I had her sign my tee shirt while I was wearing it! OMG! Fan girl here, too! I was sooo star-struck, it's embarrassing now!  I made an entire album about CKU and have a 2-page layout about her class, and how fun it was meeting her, etc. |
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Post by bc2ca on Feb 11, 2022 2:41:23 GMT
i think Lisa was his second marriage. Didn’t he have a daughter from the first marriage? Stefyn or something Yes, she is listed first in the obituary, with her husband/son/mother and then the other four kids with spouse/children and after the youngest comes Lisa (mother). ok, after a second read through I found Lisa's name after Sage. But like others have stated, it is a strangely laid out obit. Here in the south, if there was a spouse, they are listed first. Then children and spouses if any, grandchildren, then siblings. Or at least around my neck of the woods. I was so thrown by the wording I checked a few other obits in the same paper. They all follow the format I'm used to seeing, so I don't think it is an LDS thing or Utah thing. |
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Post by mom on Feb 11, 2022 2:43:55 GMT
I don’t think they were divorced. Lisa was mentioned in his obituary, but it was worded oddly. I followed her on IG and at least ip through their daughter’s wedding last year, they were together. I don't think they were either. I think it was an awkward obituary. |
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Post by used2scrap on Feb 11, 2022 3:09:01 GMT
Idk he was following some pretty anti women stuff on Instagram and she wasn’t wearing a wedding ring in the most recent pictures and shit down here social media. The OBIT is weird.
Sad all around.
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Post by Skellinton on Feb 11, 2022 3:16:26 GMT
I don’t think they were divorced. Lisa was mentioned in his obituary, but it was worded oddly. I followed her on IG and at least ip through their daughter’s wedding last year, they were together. I don't think they were either. I think it was an awkward obituary. I read it several times and it was so weird. It made it seem like he had multiple mothers. I have never seen one written like that before. |
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Post by mom on Feb 11, 2022 3:20:36 GMT
I don't think they were either. I think it was an awkward obituary. I read it several times and it was so weird. It made it seem like he had multiple mothers. I have never seen one written like that before. Me neither! Honestly, it reminds me of something my DH would do....I tell him to make a list of everyone that needed to be included and if I say 'daughter' or 'mother', he'd write that down too. LOL |
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Post by Elsabelle on Feb 11, 2022 5:58:43 GMT
Idk he was following some pretty anti women stuff on Instagram and she wasn’t wearing a wedding ring in the most recent pictures and shit down here social media. The OBIT is weird. Sad all around. His YouTube is also very telling. Some videos on how to save your marriage, being a narcissist’s punching bag, and the men’s divorce playbook among other topics. I think it would be strange for Lisa to be listed as the children’s mother but not as his wife. She was listed just like his first wife. |
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Post by gina on Feb 11, 2022 7:13:49 GMT
I don't know whether they were divorced or not but after Googling and reading that obituary, I would have to say that were NOT married. Who lists their wife that far in and it says (mother) after? She would be listed first as his wife. I am going with divorced.
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Post by Gennifer on Feb 11, 2022 8:06:47 GMT
That's very sad for his family. Searched for the obituary. That is a confusing mess the way they have the relatives listed (much more so than obituaries in general). Is that an LDS thing? No, I’ve never seen that before. |
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Post by mom on Feb 11, 2022 8:35:27 GMT
Idk he was following some pretty anti women stuff on Instagram and she wasn’t wearing a wedding ring in the most recent pictures and shit down here social media. The OBIT is weird. Sad all around. His YouTube is also very telling. Some videos on how to save your marriage, being a narcissist’s punching bag, and the men’s divorce playbook among other topics. I think it would be strange for Lisa to be listed as the children’s mother but not as his wife. She was listed just like his first wife. What's his you tube? I found two for him and both just have family stuff on them? What am I missing? |
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Post by peasapie on Feb 11, 2022 11:09:26 GMT
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Post by MDscrapaholic on Feb 11, 2022 11:21:35 GMT
I’m wondering if the obituary was written by his oldest daughter, as her side of the family was listed first. She may not have any experience with obituaries. I’m surprised the funeral home did not assist in writing it. Here they work with you when writing the obituary, as it is a permanent record. With the Mormon church being big on genealogy, you’d think they would want a clear, well-written obit.
The whole situation is strange. I have followed Lisa on Instagram and never noticed she was not posting anymore, let alone that her account was deleted.
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Post by elaine on Feb 11, 2022 11:58:58 GMT
Oh my. That’s so sad. I remember watching her and David Venable (spelling???) on QVC. If I remember correctly, I bought the CK Magazines and found out about the CK Messageboard in the magazine. It was a very oddly laid out board and threads were hard to follow. I also am pretty sure that’s how I found the original Two Peas online store and then the board. It was late summer/early fall 1999. I still have some of her idea books. I liked her early style because it was relatively simple and I liked the color palettes she used. I lost track of her long ago. Her kids must me all grown now. Me too. I loved CK and joined the messageboard, where I also found out about 2Peas. I also enjoyed her on QVC - she seemed so warm. May his memory be a blessing. |
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Post by cindyupnorth on Feb 11, 2022 15:45:38 GMT
Someone posted the obit on facebook, and I was so confused. So glad I'm not the only one. It's very oddly formatted, and I too wondered if they were still married. Isn't there something about LDS and eternity and the 1st wife? so maybe that's why the 1st wife family is 1st? I'm not sure. Just thinking. It was an odd obit.
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Post by Elsabelle on Feb 11, 2022 16:59:47 GMT
His YouTube is also very telling. Some videos on how to save your marriage, being a narcissist’s punching bag, and the men’s divorce playbook among other topics. I think it would be strange for Lisa to be listed as the children’s mother but not as his wife. She was listed just like his first wife. What's his you tube? I found two for him and both just have family stuff on them? What am I missing? When I googled Steve Bearnson divorce his YouTube came up in the results. Look in the channels he follows and his playlists. |
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Post by sleepingbooty on Feb 11, 2022 17:38:52 GMT
There is a personal YT channel for Steve Bearnson which confirms it's his through old videos posted on there with Lisa and the kids. The channels he was following on there indicate a particular flavour of "truth": Rudy Giuliani, Donald Trump, lambwins which is filled with QAnon stuff, JBI Breaking News which is another conspiracy spreader, etc. This account also follows The Men's Divorce Playbook which offers the kind of content its name implies, G-Man : Men Thriving After Divorce (yep, more stuff for freshly divorced men), Marriage Helper which is dedicated to "saving marriages" and has videos about how to stay married when you're attracted to someone else for example.
Paired with the particular format of the obit, I wouldn't be surprised if they were at the very least separated. And yes, like I said in the General Scrapbooking thread about his passing, significant red flags for not being vaxxed. That's my contribution to the gossip mill today. Over and out.
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Post by finsup on Feb 11, 2022 17:44:27 GMT
Idk he was following some pretty anti women stuff on Instagram and she wasn’t wearing a wedding ring in the most recent pictures and shit down here social media. The OBIT is weird. Sad all around. His YouTube is also very telling. Some videos on how to save your marriage, being a narcissist’s punching bag, and the men’s divorce playbook among other topics. I think it would be strange for Lisa to be listed as the children’s mother but not as his wife. She was listed just like his first wife. Lots of anti-vax stuff too, I see. |
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Post by melanell on Feb 11, 2022 17:51:51 GMT
That obit was like nothing I've ever seen before and I have read a lot of obituaries over the years from all different regions of the US, from other countries, for people of all different religions or who didn't believe in religion at all, and I have never seen an obituary list the surviving family in that manner before. Normally I expect to see obituaries for members of the LDS church to be rich in information that could be used by genealogists, yet this one, despite including a lot of information, was arranged in a way that I can imagine being more confusing than helpful for many people.
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Post by Gennifer on Feb 11, 2022 19:09:00 GMT
I just… don’t understand. I would be so angry if I had a family member die of COVID after refusing to get vaccinated. It would make it hard for me to grieve, I think, because it’s just so stupid and senseless.
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Post by silverlining on Feb 11, 2022 19:26:52 GMT
I'm so sorry for his children and grandchildren and all those who loved him. And, I'm really sorry to hear that he was an anti-vaxxer and his death was probably preventable.
I'm assuming that obit was written by someone young and in grief who received no help from the funeral home or from people who know how obituaries are written.
The funny thing to me in this whole sad story is that even though the way the family members were listed made no sense, we all knew who was who because of reading Creating Keepsakes magazine way back when.
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 11, 2022 19:43:26 GMT
I just… don’t understand. I would be so angry if I had a family member die of COVID after refusing to get vaccinated. It would make it hard for me to grieve, I think, because it’s just so stupid and senseless. I lost a friend like that very recently. The feelings are extremely complicated, yes. Anger is a big part of it, unfortunately - her death was stupid and senseless. |
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Post by bc2ca on Feb 11, 2022 19:43:49 GMT
I'm assuming that obit was written by someone young and in grief who received no help from the funeral home or from people who know how obituaries are written. Or thought they knew better than the suggested style. I think it also reinforces the idea that Lisa is no longer part of his life. She was a writer/editor and there is no way I see her hand in helping write that. |
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 11, 2022 19:44:57 GMT
That obit was like nothing I've ever seen before and I have read a lot of obituaries over the years from all different regions of the US, from other countries, for people of all different religions or who didn't believe in religion at all, and I have never seen an obituary list the surviving family in that manner before. Normally I expect to see obituaries for members of the LDS church to be rich in information that could be used by genealogists, yet this one, despite including a lot of information, was arranged in a way that I can imagine being more confusing than helpful for many people. It is really confusing, I only deciphered part of it because I what I already knew about her family. |
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Post by scrapalotomous on Feb 12, 2022 0:10:53 GMT
That is so sad.
I literally only thought of her a week or so again and realised I hadn’t seen any posts on Instagram for a while. I just thought it was the stupid algorithm thingie so went looking for her profile to find it deleted.
I interpreted the obituary and kids posts as them not being together. The lack of mentioning her in their posts directly certainly leads one to think that way.
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