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Post by Merge on Feb 21, 2022 23:43:24 GMT
Right? You can’t trust the mainstream media or any of the people who have devoted their lives to the study of infectious disease and vaccines, but you can trust some dude with a podcast. Might as well cite Wikipedia as your source. Which would also be marked “incorrect” by me. 😅 But if Glen Younkin and his ignorant fans have their way in my state, Wikipedia and Podcasts by Joe Rogan will get mandatory full credit as credible sources. Girl, you know I feel your pain here in Texas, where our lieutenant governor wants to end tenure for college professors and fire those who teach “CRT.” No definition. Basically he just wants to fire professors who mention that any white American ever did anything bad.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 21, 2022 23:43:58 GMT
Again, I don't think you understand how this works. Pfizer now has full approval, the vaccine is no longer under the emergency use authorization. EUA is an American authorization, it doesn't apply to Canada or any other country. Pfizer and the other vaccines have been distributed worldwide. www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/08/23/1030251410/pfizer-covid-vaccine-fda-approvalI'm also confused. Are you Canadian? You claim to have personally been to the protests. Why would you care about how the US authorizes vaccines? I posted this a few pages back. Maybe you didn't see it. www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiUFPDAlsLUIt's very confusing as I said. I still don't fully understand it myself. Yes, I'm Canadian. I care because I'm interested in things. Bunch-o-bullcrap.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2022 23:46:15 GMT
I’d like to know what sudsy ’s qualifications are for determining which studies are valid and which are not. Are you an epidemiologist? Have a background in virology or infectious disease? Have you overseen vaccine research or clinical trials? So curious, since you fancy yourself so much better at this than the rest of us. Going by what she's been posting and saying on here I doubt whether she graduated high school !
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Post by Merge on Feb 21, 2022 23:47:21 GMT
I’d like to know what sudsy ’s qualifications are for determining which studies are valid and which are not. Are you an epidemiologist? Have a background in virology or infectious disease? Have you overseen vaccine research or clinical trials? So curious, since you fancy yourself so much better at this than the rest of us. I am definitely not an epidemiologist or have a background in any of these things other than University science. I'm truly sorry if I'm coming across as "high and mighty" or something. I think I'm just losing my patience which is not a good thing at all. I should really just stick to reading these boards rather than commenting. I honestly just want to share information because I feel that others could benefit from it. I don't want to argue or fight with anyone. Maybe I bristle because I'm not used to people talking this way to one another. Please understand that from our perspective (and that of virtually every working expert in the field) you are spreading disinformation that has gotten people killed. I believe you said above that if someone was spreading lies, they should expect to receive an angry response. You are spreading lies. You have allowed yourself to be taken in by conspiracy theorists who do not have the credentials to make the claims they are making. Those of us not in the conspiracy circle resent the lies and the pain they have caused millions of people, and we’re angry.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2022 23:54:49 GMT
Podcasts? I don't have time to waste on podcasts. Any idiot can say whatever they want in a podcast. I am a cancer survivor and have absolutely no desire to waste “hours a day” listening to the total loons you are recommending. Give me peer-reviewed science any day. If you were in my classes advocating podcasts - which anyone can record and make available - over peer-reviewed research, you’d get that part of the test and assignment wrong. Right? You can’t trust the mainstream media or any of the people who have devoted their lives to the study of infectious disease and vaccines, but you can trust some dude with a podcast. Might as well cite Wikipedia as your source. She's already done that. She didn't even know how to access Canada's government website to explain what the Emergency Act covered. She posted the link to Wikipedia.
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 21, 2022 23:59:14 GMT
No White Supremacy on display here, just unicorns and fairy tales.... Let me know, Lefty and Sudsy, if I need to explain the SS reference in the second picture. Not to mention that it kind of contradicts the whole claim by Sudsy that no threats against Trudeau have been made. 🤪 *Gets out her Rise and Fall of the Third Reich* Oh look! 🤔😒 Yep, no master race in sight.
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 22, 2022 0:04:58 GMT
I posted this a few pages back. Maybe you didn't see it. www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiUFPDAlsLUIt's very confusing as I said. I still don't fully understand it myself. Yes, I'm Canadian. I care because I'm interested in things. Oooh, another claim that can be debunked by a two-minute Google search. Clearly you didn’t dig quite deep enough on this one. www.factcheck.org/2021/08/scicheck-researcher-distorts-facts-on-covid-19-vaccine-approval-liability/I remember hearing this one before, too - it’s been around for a while and has been thoroughly discredited. I suggest you look into Dr. Peter Hotez, a world renowned epidemiologist not attached to any government agency, who explains quite clearly why the vaccines are safe and effective. He and his team have even developed a new vaccine that will be made and distributed for free to developing countries - as in, no one is making money off of it. He is amazing. As I was wiping Dr Peter Cullough off my shoes, I kept thinking “Wrong Peter!”
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Post by rodeomom on Feb 22, 2022 0:05:20 GMT
I am definitely not an epidemiologist or have a background in any of these things other than University science. I'm truly sorry if I'm coming across as "high and mighty" or something. I think I'm just losing my patience which is not a good thing at all. I should really just stick to reading these boards rather than commenting. I honestly just want to share information because I feel that others could benefit from it. I don't want to argue or fight with anyone. Maybe I bristle because I'm not used to people talking this way to one another. Please understand that from our perspective (and that of virtually every working expert in the field) you are spreading disinformation that has gotten people killed. I believe you said above that if someone was spreading lies, they should expect to receive an angry response. You are spreading lies. You have allowed yourself to be taken in by conspiracy theorists who do not have the credentials to make the claims they are making. Those of us not in the conspiracy circle resent the lies and the pain they have caused millions of people, and we’re angry.
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Post by valincal on Feb 22, 2022 0:07:12 GMT
I’d like to know what sudsy ’s qualifications are for determining which studies are valid and which are not. Are you an epidemiologist? Have a background in virology or infectious disease? Have you overseen vaccine research or clinical trials? So curious, since you fancy yourself so much better at this than the rest of us. I am definitely not an epidemiologist or have a background in any of these things other than University science. I'm truly sorry if I'm coming across as "high and mighty" or something. I think I'm just losing my patience which is not a good thing at all. I should really just stick to reading these boards rather than commenting. I honestly just want to share information because I feel that others could benefit from it. I don't want to argue or fight with anyone. Maybe I bristle because I'm not used to people talking this way to one another. Umm, no. High and mighty is not how you are coming across. Ignorant, misinformed and unwilling to learn is what I see.
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 22, 2022 0:08:06 GMT
I am definitely not an epidemiologist or have a background in any of these things other than University science. I'm truly sorry if I'm coming across as "high and mighty" or something. I think I'm just losing my patience which is not a good thing at all. I should really just stick to reading these boards rather than commenting. I honestly just want to share information because I feel that others could benefit from it. I don't want to argue or fight with anyone. Maybe I bristle because I'm not used to people talking this way to one another. Please understand that from our perspective (and that of virtually every working expert in the field) you are spreading disinformation that has gotten people killed. I believe you said above that if someone was spreading lies, they should expect to receive an angry response. You are spreading lies. You have allowed yourself to be taken in by conspiracy theorists who do not have the credentials to make the claims they are making. Those of us not in the conspiracy circle resent the lies and the pain they have caused millions of people, and we’re angry. Yes. And still getting people killed. 2500 people a day.
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Post by elaine on Feb 22, 2022 0:11:02 GMT
Please understand that from our perspective (and that of virtually every working expert in the field) you are spreading disinformation that has gotten people killed. I believe you said above that if someone was spreading lies, they should expect to receive an angry response. You are spreading lies. You have allowed yourself to be taken in by conspiracy theorists who do not have the credentials to make the claims they are making. Those of us not in the conspiracy circle resent the lies and the pain they have caused millions of people, and we’re angry. Yes. And still getting people killed. 2500 people a day. 5,900,000 reported dead so far. Given the under-reporting, chances are that the actual number surpasses 6,000,000 so far, over 2 years. But it is just the flu, dontcha know?
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Post by Merge on Feb 22, 2022 0:11:07 GMT
Please understand that from our perspective (and that of virtually every working expert in the field) you are spreading disinformation that has gotten people killed. I believe you said above that if someone was spreading lies, they should expect to receive an angry response. You are spreading lies. You have allowed yourself to be taken in by conspiracy theorists who do not have the credentials to make the claims they are making. Those of us not in the conspiracy circle resent the lies and the pain they have caused millions of people, and we’re angry. My filter is completely gone these days.
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Post by mellyw on Feb 22, 2022 0:11:41 GMT
No White Supremacy on display here, just unicorns and fairy tales.... Let me know, Lefty and Sudsy, if I need to explain the SS reference in the second picture. Not to mention that it kind of contradicts the whole claim by Sudsy that no threats against Trudeau have been made. 🤪 I’ve avoided this thread somewhat, because for the life of me, I don’t understand what lefturnonly gets out of these dump and runs. It’s been her M.O since Trump started running for President, and it’s just plain weird But, JFC, those images make me want to vomit. You don’t need to gauge anyones news sources once those images show up. You’ve lost the fucking plot when that bullshit starts
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 22, 2022 0:20:21 GMT
Yes. And still getting people killed. 2500 people a day. 5,900,000 reported dead so far. Given the under-reporting, chances are that the actual number surpasses 6,000,000 so far, over 2 years. But it is just the flu, dontcha know? Yes. That’s not an insignificant number at all. And each of those people at least one person who loved and cared about them.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 22, 2022 0:24:49 GMT
I’d like to know what sudsy ’s qualifications are for determining which studies are valid and which are not. Are you an epidemiologist? Have a background in virology or infectious disease? Have you overseen vaccine research or clinical trials? So curious, since you fancy yourself so much better at this than the rest of us. I am definitely not an epidemiologist or have a background in any of these things other than University science. I'm truly sorry if I'm coming across as "high and mighty" or something. I think I'm just losing my patience which is not a good thing at all. I should really just stick to reading these boards rather than commenting. I honestly just want to share information because I feel that others could benefit from it. I don't want to argue or fight with anyone. Maybe I bristle because I'm not used to people talking this way to one another. Sharing “dis- and mis-information”.
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 22, 2022 0:27:44 GMT
No White Supremacy on display here, just unicorns and fairy tales.... Let me know, Lefty and Sudsy, if I need to explain the SS reference in the second picture. Not to mention that it kind of contradicts the whole claim by Sudsy that no threats against Trudeau have been made. 🤪 I’ve avoided this thread somewhat, because for the life of me, I don’t understand what lefturnonly gets out of these dump and runs. It’s been her M.O since Trump started running for President, and it’s just plain weird But, JFC, those images make me want to vomit. You don’t need to gauge anyones news sources once those images show up. You’ve lost the fucking plot when that bullshit starts Don’t go read what she wrote on the teacher CRT thread then. 🤯
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 22, 2022 0:29:36 GMT
No White Supremacy on display here, just unicorns and fairy tales.... Let me know, Lefty and Sudsy, if I need to explain the SS reference in the second picture. Not to mention that it kind of contradicts the whole claim by Sudsy that no threats against Trudeau have been made. 🤪 I’ve avoided this thread somewhat, because for the life of me, I don’t understand what lefturnonly gets out of these dump and runs. It’s been her M.O since Trump started running for President, and it’s just plain weird But, JFC, those images make me want to vomit. You don’t need to gauge anyones news sources once those images show up. You’ve lost the fucking plot when that bullshit starts Clout to her conservative buddies. She can war cry the false narrative “I’m a victim of liberal bullying”
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Post by sideways on Feb 22, 2022 0:33:09 GMT
😂 So you concede that nobody was trampled then? I seem to remember things being said about civil rights protestors being in the street and what some people would do if protestors got in the way of their cars. These were horses walking through the crowd to separate them. People had all been told to leave, so maybe they shouldn’t have been in the street? I don’t know what incident or “investigation” your referring to. I’m not going to indulge your RWNJ red herrings. Do try to stay on topic. I never said anyone was trampled. If protesters and a car are on topic, then so is a horse incident at the border. Unless you're invoking the double standard again? Biden Administration Will Investigate Border Patrol's Use Of Horse Reins Against Haitian MigrantsThat’s your MO. Also, big difference between horse reins being purposefully used on people and what happened in Ottawa. It’s all about intent. But keep going with your false equivalencies.
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Post by sudsy on Feb 22, 2022 0:51:22 GMT
Right? You can’t trust the mainstream media or any of the people who have devoted their lives to the study of infectious disease and vaccines, but you can trust some dude with a podcast. Might as well cite Wikipedia as your source. She's already done that. She didn't even know how to access Canada's government website to explain what the Emergency Act covered. She posted the link to Wikipedia. I assure you that I knew how, I was just being lazy.
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Post by sudsy on Feb 22, 2022 0:58:32 GMT
I am definitely not an epidemiologist or have a background in any of these things other than University science. I'm truly sorry if I'm coming across as "high and mighty" or something. I think I'm just losing my patience which is not a good thing at all. I should really just stick to reading these boards rather than commenting. I honestly just want to share information because I feel that others could benefit from it. I don't want to argue or fight with anyone. Maybe I bristle because I'm not used to people talking this way to one another. Please understand that from our perspective (and that of virtually every working expert in the field) you are spreading disinformation that has gotten people killed. I believe you said above that if someone was spreading lies, they should expect to receive an angry response. You are spreading lies. You have allowed yourself to be taken in by conspiracy theorists who do not have the credentials to make the claims they are making. Those of us not in the conspiracy circle resent the lies and the pain they have caused millions of people, and we’re angry. These are not lies. The top doctors are not lying to you. They have nothing to gain from doing so. The people whose advice you're taking have everything to gain and that's the difference but you're not seeing it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2022 1:00:37 GMT
The men that I listed literally have thousands of peer-reviewed studies to their names. They can be on OTHER peer-reviewed studies about all kinds of stuff and that's awesome. If they don't believe in the efficacy and/or safety of the covid vaccines they need to do a PEER-REVIEWED STUDY ON THAT TOPIC! You still don't seem to understand how science works.
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Post by sideways on Feb 22, 2022 1:01:16 GMT
Please understand that from our perspective (and that of virtually every working expert in the field) you are spreading disinformation that has gotten people killed. I believe you said above that if someone was spreading lies, they should expect to receive an angry response. You are spreading lies. You have allowed yourself to be taken in by conspiracy theorists who do not have the credentials to make the claims they are making. Those of us not in the conspiracy circle resent the lies and the pain they have caused millions of people, and we’re angry. These are not lies. The top doctors are not lying to you. They have nothing to gain from doing so. The people whose advice you're taking have everything to gain and that's the difference but you're not seeing it. Wow. You’re absolutely inebriated on the qool-aid.
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Post by Merge on Feb 22, 2022 1:04:10 GMT
Please understand that from our perspective (and that of virtually every working expert in the field) you are spreading disinformation that has gotten people killed. I believe you said above that if someone was spreading lies, they should expect to receive an angry response. You are spreading lies. You have allowed yourself to be taken in by conspiracy theorists who do not have the credentials to make the claims they are making. Those of us not in the conspiracy circle resent the lies and the pain they have caused millions of people, and we’re angry. These are not lies. The top doctors are not lying to you. They have nothing to gain from doing so. The people whose advice you're taking have everything to gain and that's the difference but you're not seeing it. No. You think the people you follow don’t make money from your YouTube clicks and podcast listens? You think they’re not hoping to be the next Joe Rogan? You’re fooling yourself. Doctors who really want to help go out and help people. They conduct research as part of their regular job and don’t gain anything extra from it. They don’t sit back and spout discredited theories about other people’s research. You are spreading lies. People have died because they believe those lies. There is blood on your hands.
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Post by sudsy on Feb 22, 2022 1:05:41 GMT
The men that I listed literally have thousands of peer-reviewed studies to their names. They can be on OTHER peer-reviewed studies about all kinds of stuff and that's awesome. If they don't believe in the efficacy and/or safety of the covid vaccines they need to do a PEER-REVIEWED STUDY ON THAT TOPIC! You still don't seem to understand how science works. Dr. Malone is the inventor of the technology that is used in the concoction that you've injected into your body. Who, if not him do you think is better able to talk about it?
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 22, 2022 1:06:45 GMT
Please understand that from our perspective (and that of virtually every working expert in the field) you are spreading disinformation that has gotten people killed. I believe you said above that if someone was spreading lies, they should expect to receive an angry response. You are spreading lies. You have allowed yourself to be taken in by conspiracy theorists who do not have the credentials to make the claims they are making. Those of us not in the conspiracy circle resent the lies and the pain they have caused millions of people, and we’re angry. These are not lies. The top doctors are not lying to you. They have nothing to gain from doing so. The people whose advice you're taking have everything to gain and that's the difference but you're not seeing it. Those six names are NOT the top doctors. 🤦🏼♀️ Nothing like doubling down on your ignorance I guess. Head full of suds, it seems.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2022 1:08:01 GMT
Dr. Malone is the inventor of the technology that is used in the concoction that you've injected into your body. Who, if not him do you think is better able to talk about it? Post me a link to his peer-reviewed study(ies) on the inefficacy and/or danger of the covid vaccine(s).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2022 1:11:34 GMT
"Malone had a following before his “Joe Rogan Experience” interview that was released Dec. 31 — but that show introduced him to an even wider audience. On it, he promoted an unfounded theory called “mass-formation psychosis,” telling Rogan that a “third of the population [is] basically being hypnotized” into believing what the mainstream media and Anthony S. Fauci, the nation’s top infectious-disease expert and chief medical adviser to President Biden, report on the vaccines. Malone went on to compare the country’s pandemic policies to Nazi Germany. His remarks drew massive attention — and outrage. “To claim that choosing not to get a vaccine and not being able to go to a movie theater is in any way comparable to Jewish people being targeted and murdered, it blows my mind,” said Jonathan Laxton, an assistant professor of medicine at the University of Manitoba who signed a letter from 270 medical professionals to Spotify this month demanding that the company do more to prevent the spread of false covid-19 information. “He devalued the impact of the Holocaust.” Van Bavel added: “He used a pseudoscience term and millions of people downloaded the episode — and it took on a life of its own, even though there is no evidence supporting it.”" www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/01/24/robert-malone-vaccine-misinformation-rogan-mandates/Babbling on Rogan <> publishing a peer-reviewed study showing the inefficacy and/or danger of covid vaccines. I'm sorry you still don't understand how science works. Malone should, but he seems to think spouting theories on a bro-podcast is equivalent to doing the work to debunk the work of hundreds or thousands of other peer-reviewed studies on covid vaccines the world over.
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Post by Merge on Feb 22, 2022 1:11:36 GMT
They can be on OTHER peer-reviewed studies about all kinds of stuff and that's awesome. If they don't believe in the efficacy and/or safety of the covid vaccines they need to do a PEER-REVIEWED STUDY ON THAT TOPIC! You still don't seem to understand how science works. Dr. Malone is the inventor of the technology that is used in the concoction that you've injected into your body. Who, if not him do you think is better able to talk about it? Dr. Malone has a pretty serious axe to grind against the scientists who collaborated with him on that technology. He’s been widely panned for spreading disinformation by many others who have nothing to gain from doing so. www.google.com/amp/s/www.10news.com/news/in-depth/in-depth-did-robert-malone-invent-mrna-vaccines-in-san-diego%3F_amp%3Dtrue
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Post by elaine on Feb 22, 2022 1:14:12 GMT
They can be on OTHER peer-reviewed studies about all kinds of stuff and that's awesome. If they don't believe in the efficacy and/or safety of the covid vaccines they need to do a PEER-REVIEWED STUDY ON THAT TOPIC! You still don't seem to understand how science works. Dr. Malone is the inventor of the technology that is used in the concoction that you've injected into your body. Who, if not him do you think is better able to talk about it? Lie. He was one of countless scientists who contributed to the development mRNA vaccine technology. He did not “invent” it. If you spent less time listening to Joe Rogan and more understanding how science and medicine worked, you would have easily seen through this blatant lie.
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Post by LiLi on Feb 22, 2022 1:26:59 GMT
They can be on OTHER peer-reviewed studies about all kinds of stuff and that's awesome. If they don't believe in the efficacy and/or safety of the covid vaccines they need to do a PEER-REVIEWED STUDY ON THAT TOPIC! You still don't seem to understand how science works. Dr. Malone is the inventor of the technology that is used in the concoction that you've injected into your body. Who, if not him do you think is better able to talk about it? I've already been down that rabbit hole about Dr. Malone. His claims about his, "inventions" are unproven (false). There is no proof he did what he claimed he did, and proof that others did. That's that big problem with believing podcasts. These turkeys spout whatever info they want to and it spreads. Robert Malone mixed lipids (the lipids/protein concoction was invented by someone else) and fats and discovered they could replicate(?*sure I'm not using correct vernacular but the general idea is accurate) human cells. Then his wife wrote an essay. THAT is IT. That's all that has been proven besides his own claims. His claims are hugely exaggerated at best.
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