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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 2, 2022 20:53:55 GMT
Not related to Putin, just related to a man who seems like he wants the same title. the other Tweet is even worse. He finishes his speech, and then storms off without turning around to say goodbye to the kids. He just huffs off. What a dick. He forgets they are voters or could be soon!! |
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Post by milocat on Mar 2, 2022 20:55:32 GMT
In Russia, police detain a survivor of the Siege of Leningrad, which began in 1941-I think-and lasted several years, with hundreds of thousands of casualties Oh that is heartbreaking. Of all the people they could have arrested, they choose that babushka. A 98 yo in had a sign and her photo saying I survived the Holodomor and Hitler, I'll survive Putin. What Russians are seeing on tv www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60571737 |
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Post by sassyangel on Mar 2, 2022 21:18:15 GMT
They literally can’t. Ever. "Yes, the Charter of the United Nations can be amended. According to Article 108 of the Charter, amendments must be adopted by two thirds of the members of the General Assembly and ratified by two thirds of the members of the United Nations, including all the permanent members of the Security Council." ask.un.org/faq/140440It has been amended in the past. I completely agree they need to go. The UN is a bone of contention for me. I have a hard time comprehending “permanent members” that can’t be ever removed. Just the lack of (what if one of these permanent member countries turns into a despotic craven power in the next 100 years) foresight astounds me. I mean, I know it was created in the feel good aftermath of WWII where they didn’t want repeat the mistakes Treaty of Versailles of WWI, but how can you fight a war against fascism like that and know human nature, and not somehow factor that potential in to your structure SOMEWHERE? 🤷🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️ Yes, the charter *can* be amended, but even with that, you run into this. “According to Article 108 of the Charter, amendments must be adopted by two thirds of the members of the General Assembly and ratified by two thirds of the members of the United Nations, including all the permanent members of the Security Council.” Basically all roads lead to the” unanimous votes by the permanent members of the security council” roadblock. 😣 |
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 2, 2022 21:40:04 GMT
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Post by pyccku on Mar 2, 2022 22:15:12 GMT
It's going to be very, very bad in Russia very quickly. This twitter thread is in Russian, so use the translator - it's worth reading to the end.
There is also talk that Putin is going to declare martial law on Friday.
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Post by sassyangel on Mar 2, 2022 22:37:14 GMT
It's going to be very, very bad in Russia very quickly. This twitter thread is in Russian, so use the translator - it's worth reading to the end. There is also talk that Putin is going to declare martial law on Friday. Here’s an unroll, for those who find it difficult to follow Twitter threads - it’s worth a read. threadreaderapp.com/thread/1499092871265361927.htmlOpen it in google browser, and you can translate it from Russian.  |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Mar 2, 2022 23:55:22 GMT
Article 27 Each member of the Security Council shall have one vote. Decisions of the Security Council on procedural matters shall be made by an affirmative vote of nine members. Decisions of the Security Council on all other matters shall be made by an affirmative vote of nine members including the concurring votes of the permanent members; provided that, in decisions under Chapter VI, and under paragraph 3 of Article 52, a party to a dispute shall abstain from voting.www.un.org/en/about-us/un-charter/full-textCan someone explain what the UN Security Council actually does? What actions can they take? |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 2, 2022 23:59:00 GMT
Should we start a thread for seized property? At 15,917 tons, it's the world's largest motor yacht by gross tonnage, and is typically manned by a crew of 96 people. Dilbar boasts the largest swimming pool ever installed on a yacht as well as two helicopter pads, a sauna, a beauty salon, and a gym. Its plush interiors have more than 1,000 sofa cushions and it can host up to 24 people in 12 suites," Forbes reported. "One of the earliest investors in Facebook along with fellow billionaire Yuri Milner, Usmanov also owns extensive real estate assets in the West, ranging from two estates in the UK—Beechwood House in London and Sutton Place in Surrey, valued at a combined $280 million—to luxury homes in Munich, Germany; Lausanne, Switzerland; Monaco; and Sardinia." www.rawstory.com/512-foot-mega-yacht-owned-by-russian-oligarch-alisher-usmanov-seized-by-german-authorities-forbes/ |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Mar 3, 2022 0:01:09 GMT
Another thing that I have been thinking about is if Putin wants to take over Ukraine and sees it if value for Russia, why destroy it? What is the plan when the country is decimated and everything needs to be rebuilt? How is that of benefit to Russia? This is so senseless in so many ways.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2022 0:12:02 GMT
Can someone explain what the UN Security Council actually does? What actions can they take? See Chapter 5 at link |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 3, 2022 0:14:36 GMT
Another thing that I have been thinking about is if Putin wants to take over Ukraine and sees it if value for Russia, why destroy it? What is the plan when the country is decimated and everything needs to be rebuilt? How is that of benefit to Russia? This is so senseless in so many ways. He wants it, that's all that matters to him... He will build what he wants for his choose people of the day! |
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Post by snowsilver on Mar 3, 2022 0:25:43 GMT
Another thing that I have been thinking about is if Putin wants to take over Ukraine and sees it if value for Russia, why destroy it? What is the plan when the country is decimated and everything needs to be rebuilt? How is that of benefit to Russia? This is so senseless in so many ways. I wonder about this too, Kristin. And that Twitter post just above from pyccku worries me a lot. Putin is not stupid. He HAD to know the world was not going to sit by while he did a massive invasion and began dropping bombs on civilians. He had to have calculated the risks and he had to know that his economy would do just what that Twitter post said it would do. And still, he advances. I'm starting to have a very queasy feeling about the whole thing. |
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Post by Bridget in MD on Mar 3, 2022 0:28:17 GMT
This made my stomach drop: Kherson mayor indicates the city has fallen (from cnn)
From CNN's Nick Paton Walsh and Tim Lister
The mayor of the Ukrainian city of Kherson Ihor Kolykhaiev has said that the Ukrainian military is no longer in the city and that its inhabitants must now carry out the instructions of “armed people who came to the city’s administration” — indicating that the city has now fallen under Russian control.
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Post by sassyangel on Mar 3, 2022 0:41:04 GMT
Another thing that I have been thinking about is if Putin wants to take over Ukraine and sees it if value for Russia, why destroy it? What is the plan when the country is decimated and everything needs to be rebuilt? How is that of benefit to Russia? This is so senseless in so many ways. You’re assuming he’s behaving and thinking at all rationally. |
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Post by hop2 on Mar 3, 2022 0:57:57 GMT
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Post by Ryann on Mar 3, 2022 1:02:35 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 3, 2022 1:06:48 GMT
Mostly symbolic, but still encouraging. Despite a few politicians, most Americans at least know which side is right. www.washingtonpost.com/food/2022/03/02/ukraine-russian-vodka-cocktails/Bars rename Moscow Mules and pour out Russian vodka to protest the Ukraine invasion www.npr.org/2022/03/02/1084046601/ea-russian-teams-fifa-nhlEA is cutting Russian teams from its FIFA and NHL games over the Ukraine invasion And this might have more of an impact www.npr.org/2022/03/02/1083999375/companies-exodus-russia-exxon-bp-apple-weworkOne by one, global companies are cutting their ties to Russia Companies from Apple to Exxon Mobil are either exiting or cutting their investments in Russia, adding to the country's economic pain following its invasion of Ukraine.
Volvo Cars and General Motors have halted vehicle exports to Russia, while Harley-Davidson said it "has suspended its business in Russia and all shipments of its bikes to the country."
Tech firms are also curtailing business in the country.
Dell has suspended product sales, and Apple has also "paused all product sales in Russia," according to a company spokesperson, who noted, "Apple Pay and other services have been limited."
Several of the world's largest shipping companies are no longer servicing customers in Russia, including UPS, FedEx and Maersk.
The Danish shipping company said it "has now suspended bookings to/from both Russia and Ukraine until further notice," with the exception of "foodstuffs, medical and humanitarian supplies." |
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 3, 2022 1:09:15 GMT
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Mar 3, 2022 1:12:35 GMT
Another thing that I have been thinking about is if Putin wants to take over Ukraine and sees it if value for Russia, why destroy it? What is the plan when the country is decimated and everything needs to be rebuilt? How is that of benefit to Russia? This is so senseless in so many ways. You’re assuming he’s behaving and thinking at all rationally. True. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Mar 3, 2022 1:14:06 GMT
Can someone explain what the UN Security Council actually does? What actions can they take? See Chapter 5 at link It still doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. Seems that they have meetings to decide if they are going to meet again and then another vote to see if they want to chastise Russia. And in the meantime Ukrainians are dying. |
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 3, 2022 1:16:05 GMT
And maybe a sign of how desperate Putin is? www.npr.org/2022/03/02/1083911717/russian-police-jail-kids-who-took-flowers-and-no-to-war-signs-to-ukraines-embassRussian police jail kids who took flowers and 'No to War' signs to Ukraine's embassy
They carried flowers, and handmade signs reading "нет войне" — No to War. They tried to leave their message outside Ukraine's embassy in Moscow — and for that, they were arrested.
That's the story emerging in Russia about five children, ages 7 to 11, who went with their mothers to visit the embassy on Tuesday. Their excursion could have served as a reminder of shared humanity, even during a conflict. But police in Moscow didn't see it that way. They detained the kids and parents, putting them in a holding cell.
As of Monday, Russian authorities had detained roughly 6,400 anti-war demonstrators since the start of the invasion last week, according to the office of the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights. |
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Post by mom on Mar 3, 2022 1:28:52 GMT
Another thing that I have been thinking about is if Putin wants to take over Ukraine and sees it if value for Russia, why destroy it? What is the plan when the country is decimated and everything needs to be rebuilt? How is that of benefit to Russia? This is so senseless in so many ways. He doesn't care what is left. He just wants the toy (Ukraine) so no one else can have it. His own country is hardly anything to brag about...he's barely taking care of what he already 'has'. He most likely has no intention of developing the Ukraine after he levels it. He wants to rule the world and the more land mass he has, the happier he will be. |
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Post by sassyangel on Mar 3, 2022 1:31:01 GMT
You’re assuming he’s behaving and thinking at all rationally. True. It’s alarming. A bit. So far the intelligence community has had a good read on what he will do, but now he’s gone ahead and invaded, people who’ve studied him for years can’t entirely figure his end game with this now. 🥴 |
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Post by pyccku on Mar 3, 2022 1:48:10 GMT
The scuttlebutt now is that martial law will be declared in Russia tomorrow.
It's crazy to me how much has changed in less than one week. For the oligarchs, it must be terrifying. In less than one week they have gone from being billionaires who can travel anywhere in luxury, treated with the utmost respect to men who have little money, no power, and will now have to live like the typical Russian peasant. All under military law.
Last week, one owned a massively profitable soccer club. This week? He's forced to sell.
Last week, one had a huge megayacht. This week? It's been seized.
Last week, they had businesses and plans and mistresses and villas. This week? They will be desperate to grow potatoes in their villas.
Last week, they were able to live outside of Russia. This week? They have to actually be Russians.
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Post by Merge on Mar 3, 2022 1:54:23 GMT
The scuttlebutt now is that martial law will be declared in Russia tomorrow. It's crazy to me how much has changed in less than one week. For the oligarchs, it must be terrifying. In less than one week they have gone from being billionaires who can travel anywhere in luxury, treated with the utmost respect to men who have little money, no power, and will now have to live like the typical Russian peasant. All under military law. Last week, one owned a massively profitable soccer club. This week? He's forced to sell. Last week, one had a huge megayacht. This week? It's been seized. Last week, they had businesses and plans and mistresses and villas. This week? They will be desperate to grow potatoes in their villas. Last week, they were able to live outside of Russia. This week? They have to actually be Russians. Hopefully they still have the connections and pull to get someone to take Putin out of the equation. |
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Post by sassyangel on Mar 3, 2022 2:00:53 GMT
The scuttlebutt now is that martial law will be declared in Russia tomorrow. It's crazy to me how much has changed in less than one week. For the oligarchs, it must be terrifying. In less than one week they have gone from being billionaires who can travel anywhere in luxury, treated with the utmost respect to men who have little money, no power, and will now have to live like the typical Russian peasant. All under military law. Last week, one owned a massively profitable soccer club. This week? He's forced to sell. Last week, one had a huge megayacht. This week? It's been seized. Last week, they had businesses and plans and mistresses and villas. This week? They will be desperate to grow potatoes in their villas. Last week, they were able to live outside of Russia. This week? They have to actually be Russians. Hopefully they still have the connections and pull to get someone to take Putin out of the equation. I hope this motivates them to want to. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Mar 3, 2022 2:08:31 GMT
What tough, brave people.
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Post by psoccer on Mar 3, 2022 3:56:57 GMT
I have a question...my nephew posted on his Facebook an article from Factbox regarding why Russia is going in Ukraine and my nephew says that Kieve did not want to compromise and submit to the agreement that was created in 2015. I’m reading into it that he is supporting the Russian movement/war against Ukraine. I don’t want to ask him, I just don’t want to start any political drama, and nobody has responded to his posts, so I can’t get a feel for his views. His wife who came to the states from Russia 15 plus years ago so I don’t want family drama. He may just be providing some background information but I was wondering if anyone had thoughts on which way this article might be going. Here is a link. www.reuters.com/world/europe/what-are-minsk-agreements-ukraine-conflict-2022-02-21/?fbclid=IwAR3eSNayJrKDruVDHkGUeK8uQ1nOnJu_SIsmVp2AcmOPwdu2RKMlFCxbmMc |
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 3, 2022 4:15:30 GMT
I have a question...my nephew posted on his Facebook an article from Factbox regarding why Russia is going in Ukraine and my nephew says that Kieve did not want to compromise and submit to the agreement that was created in 2015. I’m reading into it that he is supporting the Russian movement/war against Ukraine. I don’t want to ask him, I just don’t want to start any political drama, and nobody has responded to his posts, so I can’t get a feel for his views. His wife who came to the states from Russia 15 plus years ago so I don’t want family drama. He may just be providing some background information but I was wondering if anyone had thoughts on which way this article might be going. Here is a link. www.reuters.com/world/europe/what-are-minsk-agreements-ukraine-conflict-2022-02-21/?fbclid=IwAR3eSNayJrKDruVDHkGUeK8uQ1nOnJu_SIsmVp2AcmOPwdu2RKMlFCxbmMcRussia has not stuck to the agreement either and both sides have very different interpretations. Here are a few highlights. If you can't read it, let me know and I can post the whole article. www.nytimes.com/2022/02/08/world/russia-ukraine-minsk-accords.htmlWhat Are the Minsk Accords, and Could They Defuse the Ukraine Crisis? European diplomats are exploring whether a seven-year-old negotiating channel, initially intended to resolve a conflict in eastern Ukraine, can be repurposed to calm a wider crisis. The Deals and the Disagreements The Minsk accords were signed to stop a conflict that has never quite ended. Ukraine’s leader thinks the accords could yet prevent the next war. Russia and Ukraine interpret the accords very differently. The French president speaks of a ‘Finland’ solution. But even the Finns have doubts. Some Ukrainians think accepting the accords at all is a concession. Ukraine is still looking for other ways out. In Russia’s view, a full implementation of the accords would effectively rule out NATO membership for Ukraine, fulfilling one of the Kremlin’s key demands in the wider crisis. In the Ukrainian interpretation, however, the legislation required in the Minsk accords would only take effect after free elections in the breakaway areas. The powers granted to these regions, Ukraine argues, could also be limited — and would certainly not include a veto over NATO membership. |
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