rodeomom
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Post by rodeomom on Mar 10, 2022 20:20:59 GMT
Women just need to protest by cutting men off. No more sex. My ODS and I were just discussing this at lunch. He lives just south of the MO state line so a lot of people he knows have family there. Anywho, we were discussing and he said what you said. Women should protest and cut the guys off. To which I replied no, that wouldn't work. The big beefy husbands would still see sex as their right and that it is the woman's duty to give themselves freely to their husbands. When they didn't they would just take it. Resulting in rape and possibly another baby that would have to be born. We can't put all the blame on the men. Women are also involved in this. How a women can NOT be for choice is mind-blowing. I mean this will results in the death of both mom and baby. How is that pro-LIFE!!! Republicans are pro-birth NOT pro-life. And in this case Republicans are PRO-DEATH ! Stop voting republican.
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naby64
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Post by naby64 on Mar 10, 2022 20:25:28 GMT
My ODS and I were just discussing this at lunch. He lives just south of the MO state line so a lot of people he knows have family there. Anywho, we were discussing and he said what you said. Women should protest and cut the guys off. To which I replied no, that wouldn't work. The big beefy husbands would still see sex as their right and that it is the woman's duty to give themselves freely to their husbands. When they didn't they would just take it. Resulting in rape and possibly another baby that would have to be born. So great that you can have such informative conversations with your son. May I Ask what his response was about force etc.. Very much against it! He becomes quite protective of woment. He's a big softie towards women and is very respectful. Now with that said, he likes to push MY buttons and teases me when I am in the kitchen that he is glad I know my place and asks if I have shoes on. 'Cause the pregnant thing was done years and years ago. He knows how his momma thinks and what she believes and he has a sister in that same vein. He lives to push buttons but when it comes down to it, he is one of the few decent ones left out there.
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Post by Lexica on Mar 10, 2022 20:29:37 GMT
Wait, you cannot do anything about an ectopic pregnancy? Are they trying to kill off Republican voters that are women? You can die from this, correct? And there is no possibility of a fetus growing to term, right? What in the world are they thinking? Have they not consulted any doctors? I was livid when I first read about the 90-day bullpucky, but this? Insanity! I don't care what it would cost me, I would be moving out of any state that decided they had a right to govern my uterus. I'm too old for any more children, but still, it is the principle of the matter. Leave women's reproductive organs alone. I would love to see a bill introduced that mandated something about testicles and then watch to see men go nuts. Maybe mandatory removal of them at a certain age?
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sassyangel
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Jun 26, 2014 23:58:32 GMT
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Post by sassyangel on Mar 10, 2022 21:12:38 GMT
My ODS and I were just discussing this at lunch. He lives just south of the MO state line so a lot of people he knows have family there. Anywho, we were discussing and he said what you said. Women should protest and cut the guys off. To which I replied no, that wouldn't work. The big beefy husbands would still see sex as their right and that it is the woman's duty to give themselves freely to their husbands. When they didn't they would just take it. Resulting in rape and possibly another baby that would have to be born. We can't put all the blame on the men. Women are also involved in this. How a women can NOT be for choice is mind-blowing. I mean this will results in the death of both mom and baby. How is that pro-LIFE!!! Republicans are pro-birth NOT pro-life. And in this case Republicans are PRO-DEATH ! Stop voting republican. Hell it’s a damn woman who is behind these bills. Vile.
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RosieKat
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Post by RosieKat on Mar 10, 2022 22:37:26 GMT
I have 2 friends who I first really got to be friends with because we are all Catholics who believe in a lot of what the Church believes but, ahem, not everything. And we happened to be having lunch together today, and I mentioned this proposed bill to them. One of them rightfully pointed out that even the frickin' Catholic Church is OK with aborting in these circumstances, and when you're more conservative than even the Catholic Church's official stance, you should probably think about that.
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Post by maryland on Mar 10, 2022 23:46:47 GMT
Wait, you cannot do anything about an ectopic pregnancy? Are they trying to kill off Republican voters that are women? You can die from this, correct? And there is no possibility of a fetus growing to term, right? What in the world are they thinking? Have they not consulted any doctors? I was livid when I first read about the 90-day bullpucky, but this? Insanity! I don't care what it would cost me, I would be moving out of any state that decided they had a right to govern my uterus. I'm too old for any more children, but still, it is the principle of the matter. Leave women's reproductive organs alone. I would love to see a bill introduced that mandated something about testicles and then watch to see men go nuts. Maybe mandatory removal of them at a certain age? I think they are hoping to kill more women and that's why they are being so anti-woman. I don't think a man should have a say in the reproductive rights of women. Until we women can mandate vascetomies on men.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 10, 2022 23:57:11 GMT
I have 2 friends who I first really got to be friends with because we are all Catholics who believe in a lot of what the Church believes but, ahem, not everything. And we happened to be having lunch together today, and I mentioned this proposed bill to them. One of them rightfully pointed out that even the frickin' Catholic Church is OK with aborting in these circumstances, and when you're more conservative than even the Catholic Church's official stance, you should probably think about that. The whole attitude has gone past being conservative. It is totally the desire to control women.
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Post by Lexica on Mar 11, 2022 0:05:28 GMT
Wait, you cannot do anything about an ectopic pregnancy? Are they trying to kill off Republican voters that are women? You can die from this, correct? And there is no possibility of a fetus growing to term, right? What in the world are they thinking? Have they not consulted any doctors? I was livid when I first read about the 90-day bullpucky, but this? Insanity! I don't care what it would cost me, I would be moving out of any state that decided they had a right to govern my uterus. I'm too old for any more children, but still, it is the principle of the matter. Leave women's reproductive organs alone. I would love to see a bill introduced that mandated something about testicles and then watch to see men go nuts. Maybe mandatory removal of them at a certain age? I think they are hoping to kill more women and that's why they are being so anti-woman. I don't think a man should have a say in the reproductive rights of women. Until we women can mandate vascetomies on men.
Now you're on the right track! I think an in-depth personality test should be developed, by women of course, and any man that displays misogynistic traits or scores below a certain point level on the questionnaire should have a mandated vasectomy so as not to create more children that might carry on these traits. This should be done at an age young enough, before sexual maturity, so that they cannot father any children with these horrific beliefs. There should also be a questionnaire developed that a man has to pass before being allowed to assist in the raising of any children he did not father, such as a situation of marrying a woman who has previously had children from another union. The man must pass with a score high enough to ensure the children will be raised to treat both sexes with respect. These tests sound about as insane as the laws that are currently being passed to govern women.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 11, 2022 0:07:56 GMT
Won't stop rape or sexual assaults. Got to snip the sack.... MAY BE OFFENSIVE!! .....and hang 'em from the trailer hitch! They like to show them off...
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Post by hmp on Mar 11, 2022 0:35:03 GMT
I can hear the “men” complaining & protesting about their “rights” to control “their” bodies. I think castration needs to be on the table, especially for sexual assault & rape. I also believe child support should be taken from a man’s paycheck automatically. I’ve had it with fighting for equal rights & then having to re-fight for them. It’s just hard to sustain this level of anger. I wish every politician had to pass a test before they can run for office. It’s not like the folks that want these laws are going to support the mother & child after the baby is born. I also think they will be shocked to see how many of them want their wives & daughters have abortions. This is the real world. If this is what they want & laws get passed, they need to be held accountable.
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Post by tampascrapper on Mar 11, 2022 0:42:36 GMT
I hate living in Missouri. 😡. It’s such bullshit that these laws can happen. THIS!!!!! Handmaiden’sTale is getting closer and closer to women’s future reality.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Mar 11, 2022 2:23:21 GMT
I hate living in Missouri. 😡. It’s such bullshit that these laws can happen. THIS!!!!! Handmaiden’sTale is getting closer and closer to women’s future reality. These laws are getting really scary. I’m glad I’m only about a day’s drive from Canada for my DD’s sake.
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Post by MissBianca on Mar 11, 2022 3:10:08 GMT
Sadly I can tell you that the crazy right wings that are ok with this bill are 100% ok with some women dying to potentially save the unborn. I got into an argument about abortion with someone that used to be an acquaintance and told him if I were to get pregnant again that I would die ( my last kid almost killed me). I would opt to have an abortion. And he was all like killing is wrong, no matter what. I’m like do you realize that not only would the fetus die but I would too and that would leave 4 kids motherless. And he was 100% ok with that because it was gods will and that my children would be ok because I valued the fetus enough to be willing to die for it. I wanted to punch him in the head. I feel bad for his daughters but they also believe all this craziness.
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pinklady
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Post by pinklady on Mar 11, 2022 3:20:35 GMT
Republican are evil demented people. While they want to criminalize abortions they also want you to lay back and enjoy getting raped. Is there a hotline I can call to report this child abuse?
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Post by epeanymous on Mar 11, 2022 3:25:09 GMT
Do these people even understand what an ectopic pregnancy is? Oh come on. If you were a real woman, a real mother, you’d wait it out just in case the lord intervenes with a miracle. I mean, sure, you will probably die, but my cousin’s college roommate’s gardener’s niece was told she had an ectopic pregnancy and she refused to abort and had a healthy baby.
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Post by Merge on Mar 11, 2022 3:43:23 GMT
The list of people I’m going to punch in the throat grows longer by the day.
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Post by cropduster on Mar 11, 2022 4:23:04 GMT
Sadly I can tell you that the crazy right wings that are ok with this bill are 100% ok with some women dying to potentially save the unborn. I got into an argument about abortion with someone that used to be an acquaintance and told him if I were to get pregnant again that I would die ( my last kid almost killed me). I would opt to have an abortion. And he was all like killing is wrong, no matter what. I’m like do you realize that not only would the fetus die but I would too and that would leave 4 kids motherless. And he was 100% ok with that because it was gods will and that my children would be ok because I valued the fetus enough to be willing to die for it. I wanted to punch him in the head. I feel bad for his daughters but they also believe all this craziness. I have very conservative Catholic friends that believe tvat way, too. I barely speak to them anymore.
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purplebee
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Post by purplebee on Mar 11, 2022 12:28:53 GMT
And just how is this not legislated murder? But, but we’re soooo “Pro-Life…” Brain washed trump humping morons.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2022 12:53:51 GMT
I looked at an article about it. This guy is clearly being either willfully stupid or is just plain stupid. Either way to me it seems like political poker with women's lives on the line. Put forth a ludicrous proposal and then see if you can negotiate down to restrictions that are more "reasonable". That is their long game...Why is our government not focusing on improving the lives of its constituents? Because hating and controlling "bad women" does make a segment of the population feel better and is a lot cheaper than building infrastructure or getting lead out of drinking water.
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Post by MZF on Mar 11, 2022 13:14:01 GMT
Well, I’d be dead. My first pregnancy was ectopic: the fertilized egg had adhered itself to my abdominal wall. To compound the heartbreak of that time - the surgeries, the confusion etc… with this foolishness is repulsive. Me, too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2022 14:03:03 GMT
""This is what it looks like when uneducated politicians try and legislate our bodies," Dr. Colleen McNicholas, Chief Medical Officer for Planned Parenthood of the St. Louis Region and Southwest Missouri, told Newsweek in a statement. "Ectopic pregnancies, if not treated promptly, become life-threatening. Banning any provision of care related to ectopic pregnancies will put people's lives at risk." Republican state Representative Brian Seitz told the committee he introduced House Bill 2810 in response to a ruling by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration in December that allows women to order abortion pills through the mail. "But 19 states are pushing back," he said. "I want to be one of those states that protects women and the unborn.""www.newsweek.com/missouri-bill-would-make-it-illegal-abort-deadly-ectopic-pregnancy-1687024He spelled "fucks" wrong. He wants MO to be one of the places that FUCKS women and the unborn. PS - while the "unborn" are inside the physical body of another, the rights of the person they're INSIDE OF supersede the rights of the "unborn". NO ONE has the right to appropriate another person's body. NO ONE.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Mar 11, 2022 14:29:47 GMT
I would love to see a bill introduced that mandated something about testicles and then watch to see men go nuts. (pun intended?? lol) Maybe mandatory removal of them at a certain age? I don't think a man should have a say in the reproductive rights of women. Until we women can mandate vascetomies on men. yes!! to both of these things. why does it seem like these politicians are so very willfully ignorant about actual health / science?!?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 11, 2022 14:42:35 GMT
And the dumb thing is that they are killing off their own constituents!! With this bill... Specially rural.
And for sure Covid!
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RosieKat
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Post by RosieKat on Mar 11, 2022 14:54:07 GMT
I've talked plenty of times here about me being anti-abortion in almost all circumstances. And I do think at least this provision in this bill will be struck down. (Also to be clear, I have never felt anti-abortion legislation is a good thing anyway.)
But it does make it clear to me (yes, I know some of you are thinking FiNALLY!) that there are people out there who will stop at nothing. I have never had a problem with medically necessary abortions, although to be fully transparent, my definition of medically necessary may not be exactly the same as "yours." An ectopic pregnancy seems like it should be a slam dunk, it's not even an abortion in my eyes. Even though it is technically removing a live fetus, that fetus has zero chance at life and a huge risk of injury or death to the mother. Yet here we are, with legislation proposed that would make a clearly medically necessary situation a felony. While I've not supported the legislation here in Texas, for example, I think this Missouri one really makes me see the slippery slope here.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 11, 2022 15:29:43 GMT
I've talked plenty of times here about me being anti-abortion in almost all circumstances. And I do think at least this provision in this bill will be struck down. (Also to be clear, I have never felt anti-abortion legislation is a good thing anyway.) But it does make it clear to me (yes, I know some of you are thinking FiNALLY!) that there are people out there who will stop at nothing. I have never had a problem with medically necessary abortions, although to be fully transparent, my definition of medically necessary may not be exactly the same as "yours." An ectopic pregnancy seems like it should be a slam dunk, it's not even an abortion in my eyes. Even though it is technically removing a live fetus, that fetus has zero chance at life and a huge risk of injury or death to the mother. Yet here we are, with legislation proposed that would make a clearly medically necessary situation a felony. While I've not supported the legislation here in Texas, for example, I think this Missouri one really makes me see the slippery slope here. Thank you for always being honest and knowing that we all have different views and we can talk about it.
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Post by kmcginn on Mar 11, 2022 15:36:45 GMT
So here's a question.
What about miscarriages? The normal procedure after a miscarriage is a D&C to clean out the uterus of any left over tissue.
Will they now start to consider that an abortion as well?
As someone further up thread said - to me the Republicans are not pro-life, they are pro-birth. And this makes them pro-death!
This is disgusting! Obviously none of these people had wives or daughters who had ectopic pregnancies or had one themselves.. I have to think they would feel differently if they had.
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Just T
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Post by Just T on Mar 11, 2022 15:41:15 GMT
So here's a question. What about miscarriages? The normal procedure after a miscarriage is a D&C to clean out the uterus of any left over tissue. Will they now start to consider that an abortion as well? As someone further up thread said - to me the Republicans are not pro-life, they are pro-birth. And this makes them pro-death! This is disgusting! Obviously none of these people had wives or daughters who had ectopic pregnancies or had one themselves.. I have to think they would feel differently if they had. I have read stories from back in the days before Roe v Wade of women having miscarriages who were accused of having abortions when they sought medical treatment. As someone who had 4 miscarriages, that is horrifying to me, that in the midst of such trauma to be accused of having abortions. How would you even go about proving that you didn't?? I just can't with these laws. I just can't. Tomorrow, I am having lunch with some relatives (aunts, cousin, mom, sister) who are ALL pro life, pro limiting gay rights and I sure as hell am hoping that nothing like this comes up as a topic because I will not be responsible for what I say.
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huskergal
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Post by huskergal on Mar 11, 2022 16:02:35 GMT
Women need to be in charge. All men starting at age 16 need to have a vasectomy until they are married and ready to take on the responsibility of fatherhood.
Politicians needs to pass an IQ test or some basic test before they can run for office,
It is unbelievable how backwards this country is going.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 11, 2022 16:22:19 GMT
Women need to be in charge. All men starting at age 16 need to have a vasectomy until they are married and ready to take on the responsibility of fatherhood. Politicians needs to pass an IQ test or some basic test before they can run for office, It is unbelievable how backwards this country is going. Vasectomy will not stop control of women, it will not stop sexual assaults. It might make the whole worse says ha ha no baby this time... Force each and every day/hour...
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Post by lucyg on Mar 11, 2022 16:32:35 GMT
So here's a question. What about miscarriages? The normal procedure after a miscarriage is a D&C to clean out the uterus of any left over tissue. Will they now start to consider that an abortion as well? As someone further up thread said - to me the Republicans are not pro-life, they are pro-birth. And this makes them pro-death! This is disgusting! Obviously none of these people had wives or daughters who had ectopic pregnancies or had one themselves.. I have to think they would feel differently if they had. I have read stories from back in the days before Roe v Wade of women having miscarriages who were accused of having abortions when they sought medical treatment. As someone who had 4 miscarriages, that is horrifying to me, that in the midst of such trauma to be accused of having abortions. How would you even go about proving that you didn't?? I just can't with these laws. I just can't. Tomorrow, I am having lunch with some relatives (aunts, cousin, mom, sister) who are ALL pro life, pro limiting gay rights and I sure as hell am hoping that nothing like this comes up as a topic because I will not be responsible for what I say. OMG, you know it’s going to come up. Good luck and please report back.
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