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Post by aj2hall on Feb 16, 2024 21:31:47 GMT
Biden’s Own Censorship The Judge: "THE most massive attack against free speech in US history." "A court has now found that the evidence overwhelmingly shows systemic violation of the First Amendment by the Biden administration." "According to Judge Doughty, the government used layers of coordination and consultation to "assume a role similar to an Orwellian ‘Ministry of Truth.’” The court found that "the censorship alleged in this case almost exclusively targeted conservative speech." "In February’s hearing before the House Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government, I warned that "the massive censorship system employed by social media companies presents the greatest loss of free speech in our history." The Trump administration had some back-channel communications with social media companies, but that was radically expanded under President Biden." "The judge’s order names various agencies, including the Department of Justice, State Department, Department of Health and Human Services, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, as well as individual officials like Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas and Jen Easterly, who leads the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency." "Mayorkas not only attempted to create the infamous Disinformation Governance Board but has given grants to an array of controversial censorship programs." "When two journalists testified before the subcommittee about their investigations of censorship programs, Delegate Stacey Plaskett (D-Virgin Islands), the subcommittee’s ranking member, called them “so-called journalists.” Plaskett later suggested one of them, Matt Taibbi, be criminally investigated. Rep. Sylvia Garcia (D-Texas) and other members pressed the journalists to reveal their sources. These attacks reflect a growing problem for Democrats who have tied the party to the cause of speech limits, blacklisting and censorship. When the party controlled both houses of Congress, these members simply denied allegations of censorship as conspiracy theories and said there was no real evidence while opposing any effort to acquire evidence. Then Democrats lost control of the House, and Elon Musk purchased Twitter, opening up its files for full public view. The resulting Twitter Files forced everything into the open. This censorship system included funding groups to blacklist targeted individuals and sites. With the help of companies like Microsoft, federal agencies poured millions into efforts to target not just social media accounts but the advertisers for conservative sites." "They also clearly agreed with the standard of former Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal that the company would “focus less on thinking about free speech” and more on "who can be heard.” The Twitter Files showed that the federal government supplied thousands of names and sites of precisely who should not be heard." Source? Funny how that’s conveniently left out. Reads like some heavily slanted BS from a RWNJ propaganda website. Also, this thread is about book bans, you pinecone. Anything from the House Committee on Weaponization is suspect. Jim Jordan has zero credibility and his only goals are to serve Trump and smear the Biden administration. Truth is irrelevant as shown yesterday when a star witness in the case again the Biden family was discredited. The special counsel, appointed by Trump charged an FBI informant with lying. Also, which White House? Trump or Biden? Because there's evidence of the Trump administration asking Twitter to take down content critical of him. If she's referring to the hearing on Feb 9, it sounds like the standard Republican talking point. www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/new-house-committee-weaponization-government-hold-first-hearing-rcna69789WASHINGTON — The House’s new subcommittee dedicated to probing the so-called weaponization of the federal government held its first hearing Thursday.
The hearing featured a litany of Republican criticisms of Democrats, government and Big Tech that have featured prominently in conservative media over the last several years, from alleged censorship of the right to cancel culture, and from a Department of Justice memo on threats against school boards to re-litigating which party fell prey to Russian disinformation in 2016.
Del. Stacey Plaskett of the Virgin Islands, who serves as the panel’s top Democrat, emphasized the importance of congressional oversight in her opening remarks Thursday, but said she is “deeply concerned about the use of this select subcommittee as a place to settle scores, showcase conspiracy theories and advance an extreme agenda that risks undermining Americans faith in our democracy.”
Plaskett warned that the “dangerous rhetoric and baseless accusations against the Justice Department and FBI” from some Republicans on the panel undermines their work. She and several other Democratic members noted the rise in violent threats against federal law enforcement.
Ian Sams, spokesman for the White House Counsel’s Office, called the panel a “Fox News reboot of the House Un-American Activities Committee with a political stunt that weaponizes Congress to carry out the priorities of extreme MAGA Republicans in Congress” in a statement Thursday morning.
“These extreme MAGA Republicans in Congress are choosing to make it their top priority to go down the rabbit hole of debunked conspiracy theories about a ‘deep state’ instead of taking a deep breath and deciding to work with the president and Democrats in Congress to improve Americans’ everyday lives,” he added.
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 17, 2024 0:29:35 GMT
Biden’s Own Censorship The Judge: "THE most massive attack against free speech in US history." "A court has now found that the evidence overwhelmingly shows systemic violation of the First Amendment by the Biden administration." "According to Judge Doughty, the government used layers of coordination and consultation to "assume a role similar to an Orwellian ‘Ministry of Truth.’” The court found that "the censorship alleged in this case almost exclusively targeted conservative speech." "In February’s hearing before the House Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government, I warned that "the massive censorship system employed by social media companies presents the greatest loss of free speech in our history." The Trump administration had some back-channel communications with social media companies, but that was radically expanded under President Biden." "The judge’s order names various agencies, including the Department of Justice, State Department, Department of Health and Human Services, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, as well as individual officials like Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas and Jen Easterly, who leads the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency." "Mayorkas not only attempted to create the infamous Disinformation Governance Board but has given grants to an array of controversial censorship programs." "When two journalists testified before the subcommittee about their investigations of censorship programs, Delegate Stacey Plaskett (D-Virgin Islands), the subcommittee’s ranking member, called them “so-called journalists.” Plaskett later suggested one of them, Matt Taibbi, be criminally investigated. Rep. Sylvia Garcia (D-Texas) and other members pressed the journalists to reveal their sources. These attacks reflect a growing problem for Democrats who have tied the party to the cause of speech limits, blacklisting and censorship. When the party controlled both houses of Congress, these members simply denied allegations of censorship as conspiracy theories and said there was no real evidence while opposing any effort to acquire evidence. Then Democrats lost control of the House, and Elon Musk purchased Twitter, opening up its files for full public view. The resulting Twitter Files forced everything into the open. This censorship system included funding groups to blacklist targeted individuals and sites. With the help of companies like Microsoft, federal agencies poured millions into efforts to target not just social media accounts but the advertisers for conservative sites." "They also clearly agreed with the standard of former Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal that the company would “focus less on thinking about free speech” and more on "who can be heard.” The Twitter Files showed that the federal government supplied thousands of names and sites of precisely who should not be heard." Source? Funny how that’s conveniently left out. Reads like some heavily slanted BS from a RWNJ propaganda website. Also, this thread is about book bans, you pinecone. Book Banning IS censorship, you pinecone.
Jonathan Turley
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Post by Merge on Feb 17, 2024 1:14:12 GMT
Source? Funny how that’s conveniently left out. Reads like some heavily slanted BS from a RWNJ propaganda website. Also, this thread is about book bans, you pinecone. Book Banning IS censorship, you pinecone.
Jonathan Turley
1. Turley is a partisan hack. 2. It seems more and more likely that you would condone forcing private platforms to air neo-Nazi views calling for the extermination of Jews and black people in the name of "free speech."
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 17, 2024 1:44:42 GMT
1. Turley is a partisan hack. 2. It seems more and more likely that you would condone forcing private platforms to air neo-Nazi views calling for the extermination of Jews and black people in the name of "free speech." 1. Of course you would say that. Anybody that brings facts that undermine your narrative is baaaaad. 2. No, I absolutely would not. If you have to make up something I would do in order to have something to argue about, then you are the problem.
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Post by Merge on Feb 17, 2024 1:50:30 GMT
1. Turley is a partisan hack. 2. It seems more and more likely that you would condone forcing private platforms to air neo-Nazi views calling for the extermination of Jews and black people in the name of "free speech." 1. Of course you would say that. Anybody that brings facts that undermine your narrative is baaaaad. 2. No, I absolutely would not. If you have to make up something I would do in order to have something to argue about, then you are the problem. 1. Which "facts" did Turley bring? Remember - opinions do not equal facts. www.thenation.com/article/archive/turley-impeachment-hypocrisy/2. Your signature literally says, "all voices have a value in the conversation." Do they? Do Nazi voices have a value? And you routinely carry water here for politicians with white nationalist sympathies and insist that silencing them is wrong. The only one here who is deluded about your real feelings and intentions is you.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 17, 2024 2:00:27 GMT
1. Of course you would say that. Anybody that brings facts that undermine your narrative is baaaaad. 2. No, I absolutely would not. If you have to make up something I would do in order to have something to argue about, then you are the problem. 1. Which "facts" did Turley bring? Remember - opinions do not equal facts. www.thenation.com/article/archive/turley-impeachment-hypocrisy/2. Your signature literally says, "all voices have a value in the conversation." Do they? Do Nazi voices have a value? And you routinely carry water here for politicians with white nationalist sympathies and insist that silencing them is wrong. The only one here who is deluded about your real feelings and intentions is you. Ironic that Turkey (autocorrected but it seems fitting so I left it) was concerned about lowering impeachment standards when Republicans just impeached a Secretary for only the second time ever for the high crimes and misdemeanors of a policy disagreement.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 17, 2024 2:59:39 GMT
So..... DeSantis is having issues with his previous book ban...
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 17, 2024 3:13:40 GMT
1. Of course you would say that. Anybody that brings facts that undermine your narrative is baaaaad. 2. No, I absolutely would not. If you have to make up something I would do in order to have something to argue about, then you are the problem. 1. Which "facts" did Turley bring? Remember - opinions do not equal facts. www.thenation.com/article/archive/turley-impeachment-hypocrisy/2. Your signature literally says, "all voices have a value in the conversation." Do they? Do Nazi voices have a value? And you routinely carry water here for politicians with white nationalist sympathies and insist that silencing them is wrong. The only one here who is deluded about your real feelings and intentions is you. 1. You can read it for yourself and figure out the facts and opinions. Remember - facts that undermine your narrative do not equal opinions. 2. I put that in my signature against people that were literally telling me to "sit the the fuck down and shut the fuck up" and people like you trying to pretend I support Nazis and white nationalists. Again... If you have to make up something I would do in order to have something to argue about, then you are the problem.
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Post by Merge on Feb 17, 2024 14:28:06 GMT
1. Which "facts" did Turley bring? Remember - opinions do not equal facts. www.thenation.com/article/archive/turley-impeachment-hypocrisy/2. Your signature literally says, "all voices have a value in the conversation." Do they? Do Nazi voices have a value? And you routinely carry water here for politicians with white nationalist sympathies and insist that silencing them is wrong. The only one here who is deluded about your real feelings and intentions is you. 1. You can read it for yourself and figure out the facts and opinions. Remember - facts that undermine your narrative do not equal opinions. 2. I put that in my signature against people that were literally telling me to "sit the the fuck down and shut the fuck up" and people like you trying to pretend I support Nazis and white nationalists. Again... If you have to make up something I would do in order to have something to argue about, then you are the problem. Hon, I don't have to make anything up. You damn yourself every time you come on here to defend one of these criminals, every time you post opinions from hacks that you apparently can't discern from facts, every time you try to play the victim while defending literal nazis, Putin apologists, and worse. Poor Gia, so put upon and abused here but oddly keeps coming back for more. We all see you for what you are. Sad that you can't see it yourself. People like you have no place in decent society or conversation.
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dawnnikol
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'A life without books is a life not lived.' Jay Kristoff
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Post by dawnnikol on Feb 17, 2024 14:44:14 GMT
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dawnnikol
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'A life without books is a life not lived.' Jay Kristoff
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Post by dawnnikol on Feb 17, 2024 14:45:41 GMT
So..... DeSantis is having issues with his previous book ban... Except he also kept saying "there isn't a book ban"... so, which is it? Stupid liars who lie.
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 17, 2024 18:01:59 GMT
Christian @christianm_74
BREAKING: Robert Kennedy Jr. has been granted a massive victory in his lawsuit against the Biden administration for colluding with social media companies to censor him and others.
RFK Jr. was able to win a preliminary injunction against the White House and several federal agencies as a federal judge ruled that the government was "insinuating themselves into the social-media companies’ private affairs and blurring the line between public and private action."
Judge Doughty said Kennedy provided substantial evidence that the Biden administration had coerced the companies into suppressing free speech related to Covid, elections, gas prices, climate change, gender, and abortion.
"It is certainly likely that Defendants could use their power over millions of people to suppress alternative views or moderate content that they do not agree with in the upcoming 2024 national election," the judge added.
The injunction is stayed until 10 days after the Supreme Court rules on Missouri v Biden, though it prevents the White House and other agencies from coercing social media companies to "remove, delete, suppress, or reduce... content containing protected free speech."
This is a major triumph for free speech in the country that RFK Jr. has won.
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 17, 2024 20:51:32 GMT
1. You can read it for yourself and figure out the facts and opinions. Remember - facts that undermine your narrative do not equal opinions. 2. I put that in my signature against people that were literally telling me to "sit the the fuck down and shut the fuck up" and people like you trying to pretend I support Nazis and white nationalists. Again... If you have to make up something I would do in order to have something to argue about, then you are the problem. Hon, I don't have to make anything up. And yet, you keep making shit up.
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Post by Merge on Feb 17, 2024 20:52:23 GMT
Hon, I don't have to make anything up. And yet, you keep making shit up. Nope.
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 17, 2024 21:22:02 GMT
And yet, you keep making shit up. Nope. Yep. That is a complete fabrication. Literally created in your head. Making shit up. YOU don't get to decide MY real feelings. You are making shit up.
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Post by Merge on Feb 17, 2024 22:56:27 GMT
Yep. That is a complete fabrication. Literally created in your head. Making shit up. YOU don't get to decide MY real feelings. You are making shit up. You show your real feelings in who you support and the ideas you protect. No matter how much you want to deny it.
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 17, 2024 23:01:27 GMT
Yep. That is a complete fabrication. Literally created in your head. Making shit up. YOU don't get to decide MY real feelings. You are making shit up. You made shit up.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 17, 2024 23:18:38 GMT
Smile!!
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Post by Merge on Feb 17, 2024 23:29:13 GMT
You act like we can’t see the things you post and the people and ideas you support.
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 18, 2024 4:33:58 GMT
You act like we can’t see the things you post and the people and ideas you support. That is a complete fabrication. Literally created in your head. Making shit up.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 18, 2024 13:57:13 GMT
eta - I posted this because in my opinion, it's important to know where the money is allegedly coming from that supports RFK (supporters of Trump trying to take away votes from President Biden) apnews.com/article/dnc-fec-complaint-kenedy-trump-biden-09d42502ca757cd4656b4829c4b4c00dWASHINGTON (AP) — The Democratic National Committee on Friday filed a complaint with the Federal Elections Commission, accusing presidential candidate Robert Kennedy Jr. of a “ballot access scheme” that it argues constitutes illegal coordination with a super PAC supporting his independent bid for the White House.
The committee alleges that the Super PAC American Values 2024 is working to collect signatures to ensure Kennedy is on the November ballot in key states, but will have to “integrate their expenses” with the campaign in ways that violate federal election rules in order to do so.
That’s because, the DNC argues, many states — including Arizona, Illinois and Michigan — have rules that candidates or their campaigns be the ones collecting ballot signatures, meaning Kennedy’s campaign will have to violate federal rules to meet state requirements.
Tim Mellon, a major donor to Donald Trump, gave American Values $15 million last year, according to federal filings. The DNC alleges that those donations suggest that top supporters of the former president are using Kennedy’s candidacy to try and siphon support from President Joe Biden ‘s reelection bid.
On the call with reporters, the DNC argued that “Trump and his megadonors are propping up RFK Jr. as a stalking horse.”
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 18, 2024 14:01:59 GMT
www.npr.org/2023/07/13/1187272781/rfk-jr-kennedy-conspiracy-theories-social-media-presidential-campaignSince Robert F. Kennedy Jr. launched his campaign challenging President Biden for the 2024 Democratic presidential nomination, he has given hours of interviews to podcasts, magazines and TV networks. He paints a dark, conspiratorial picture of the world, bristling with debunked theories, misleading claims and outright falsehoods.
Wi-Fi causes cancer and "leaky brain," Kennedy told podcaster Joe Rogan last month. Antidepressants are to blame for school shootings, he mused during an appearance with Twitter CEO Elon Musk. Chemicals in the water supply could turn children transgender, he told right-wing Canadian psychologist and podcaster Jordan Peterson, echoing a false assertion made by serial fabulist Alex Jones. AIDS may not be caused by HIV, he has suggested multiple times.
There's no credible evidence for any of these assertions or for Kennedy's longest-running false claims: that vaccines cause autism and are more harmful than the diseases they're designed to protect against.
Yet Kennedy is building a campaign for the highest office around these conspiracy theories and the idea that fact-checking or criticizing them amounts to censorship. His throughline is the bedrock conspiratorial premise that "they" (the government, pharmaceutical companies, the media) are lying to you — but that he is telling the truth.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 18, 2024 14:15:49 GMT
The judge in the RFK case was appointed by Trump and in the past has ruled favorably for conservatives against the Biden administration. Not surprising that this particular conservative Trump appointed judge would rule in his favor. The ruling shows the power of judge shopping.
The ruling is also pending a Supreme Court ruling on a similar case brought by Missouri and Louisiana.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 18, 2024 14:20:27 GMT
Now that we’ve dispensed with the crazy and conspiracy theories, maybe we can get back to the subject of the thread.
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