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Post by aj2hall on Apr 5, 2022 19:17:15 GMT
I agree 100% with this statement. Parents can choose what books they want their kids to read but they do not have the right to make that choice for other families. Interesting that the party of choice and freedom wants to restrict other people's rights and freedom. They're only interested in their personal choices and freedoms as it applies to themselves but no one else. www.npr.org/2022/04/04/1090067026/efforts-to-ban-books-jumped-an-unprecedented-four-fold-in-2021-ala-report-saysIn a press release, ALA President Patricia Wong said: "We support individual parents' choices concerning their child's reading and believe that parents should not have those choices dictated by others. Young people need to have access to a variety of books from which they can learn about different perspectives."eta - forgot to add the 10 most challenged books 10 Most Challenged Books of 2021 Here are the books the ALA tracked as most challenged in 2021: 1. Gender Queer, by Maia Kobabe — Banned, challenged, and restricted for LGBTQIA+ content and because it was considered to have sexually explicit images 2. Lawn Boy, by Jonathan Evison — Banned and challenged for LGBTQIA+ content and because it was considered to be sexually explicit 3. All Boys Aren't Blue, by George M. Johnson — Banned and challenged for LGBTQIA+ content, profanity, and because it was considered to be sexually explicit 4. Out of Darkness, by Ashley Hope Perez — Banned, challenged, and restricted for depictions of abuse and because it was considered to be sexually explicit 5. The Hate U Give, by Angie Thomas — Banned and challenged for profanity, violence, and because it was thought to promote an anti-police message and indoctrination of a social agenda 6. The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian, by Sherman Alexie — Banned and challenged for profanity, sexual references and use of a derogatory term 7. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl, by Jesse Andrews — Banned and challenged because it was considered sexually explicit and degrading to women 8. The Bluest Eye, by Toni Morrison — Banned and challenged because it depicts child sexual abuse and was considered sexually explicit 9. This Book is Gay, by Juno Dawson — Banned, challenged, relocated, and restricted for providing sexual education and LGBTQIA+ content 10. Beyond Magenta, by Susan Kuklin — Banned and challenged for LGBTQIA+ content and because it was considered to be sexually explicit
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casii
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Post by casii on Apr 5, 2022 19:36:32 GMT
I would agree as well.
You can decide for your children, but you don't get to impose your will upon everyone else.
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Post by Merge on Apr 5, 2022 19:52:57 GMT
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Post by AussieMeg on Apr 5, 2022 22:55:07 GMT
I can't see the sign. The link took me to a page that says "Your cart is empty."
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casii
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Post by casii on Apr 5, 2022 23:17:38 GMT
Well funny enough, my DD sent me a photo from an Eric Carle booked titled "Draw Me A Star" today. The 5 year old son of one of her friends brought it home from school and they were dismayed to find a page with a nude man & woman drawn in the signature Eric Carle style which is rather abstract and not at all graphic (in my opinion). Turns out the friend said something to the teacher and the administration and the book got pulled from the school today. I went to check reviews and did some intense eye rolling to see that someone had covered the illustrations with construction paper clothes. Then I googled to see it's definitely been challenged in schools.
Guess who ordered the book for her grandchildren today? LOL This gal! DD won't mind at all, so no one give yourself neck burns from clutching your pearls.
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Post by Merge on Apr 5, 2022 23:42:07 GMT
I can't see the sign. The link took me to a page that says "Your cart is empty." Shoot, let me attach the picture instead.
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Post by AussieMeg on Apr 6, 2022 0:31:02 GMT
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Post by creativegirl on Apr 8, 2022 17:36:18 GMT
I'm working on my masters in library science and we have been talking a lot about book challenges. I guess we should not be surprised that people are looking for any way they can to impose their values on others, but it is upsetting. On top of that, we are seeing more legislation holding librarians responsible for "inappropriate" materials (with fines and JAIL TIME).
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Post by epeanymous on Apr 8, 2022 20:13:23 GMT
Honestly I do not personally love “parents should control what their kids read” either. That seems really, well, controlling.
How little confidence must you have in your own family values and perspectives that you think reading a book will somehow corrupt your child?
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Post by Cupcake on Apr 8, 2022 20:31:16 GMT
As a longtime public librarian, I have been paying close attention to these challenges. It has never been our job to act “in loco parentis” regarding what children read or view. You get to decide what is appropriate for your family, but not what is appropriate for other families. I am very glad my library recently tightened up our book challenge policy, including a clause that says you have read/viewed the entire work you are challenging. Luckily in my state (MA), library records that identify a borrower are covered under privacy laws, and that includes children.
Censorship drives me nuts. Stay in your lane, people!
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Apr 8, 2022 20:47:51 GMT
A local book store has done some amusing posts in regards to the ridiculous book bans.
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Post by snugglebutter on Apr 8, 2022 21:17:25 GMT
Our school district just added an "opt-out" program for their school libraries. Parents can block their children from checking out specific titles or pre-select books for them. I'm not sure if this is the district's attempt to get around all of the book banning nonsense or what. It sounds like a ton of work for librarians, though maybe they feel it protects them more from the conservative outrage.
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Post by Merge on Apr 8, 2022 21:22:18 GMT
Just sitting here chuckling, remembering the time that my mom went full Karen on a nun at our Catholic school after I brought home a Judy Blume book from the school library.
The nun told her to pound sand and the book stayed in the library. After that, I got better at hiding what I was reading. And the next year I got sent to public school because there was apparently no point in paying private school tuition just to have me exposed to a bunch of liberal nuns. 😂🙄
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Post by aj2hall on Apr 18, 2022 13:13:46 GMT
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Post by malibou on Apr 18, 2022 14:53:04 GMT
I'd like to thank my parents for letting this very early reader read whatever I freaking wanted. They never even one time censored me. Yes, I'm sure there were times they wanted to take reading material from me, like when I wouldn't stop with the "fun facts", but they truly supported my voracious appetite for reading to include letting me have a Playboy subscription when I was 8 years old because I was on a science fiction bender and Playboy had some of the best short stories. I'm sure my dad died thinking I had hit upon the best gig ever for him.😂 go
P.s. Apparently the love of fun facts is hereditary. Ds at 21 is still going strong!
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Post by Anita on Apr 18, 2022 15:52:42 GMT
It's only a matter of time before they have public book burning parties to please their fuhrer.
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Post by peabay on Apr 18, 2022 16:25:29 GMT
I feel like how people in Afghanistan must have felt before the Taliban took over. It's scary. You think it can't happen - and then it does.
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Post by aj2hall on Apr 18, 2022 23:14:51 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 18, 2022 23:20:58 GMT
I guess they will not be taking any trips to the museums... So much nakedness..
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 18, 2022 23:22:43 GMT
I have no memory of anyone telling me not to read any particular books. I know I went to the library alone at a fairly young age. Maybe the librarian?
I do have to say it would be ancient history.... 70+ years is hard to remember back for details
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 19, 2022 0:36:13 GMT
Well DeSantis has done it..... Florida’s complaint about CRT in math books comes from faked equation problems: State House DemSarah K. Burris April 18, 2022 It led many to mock the extreme lengths that Gov. Ron DeSantis is going to eliminate things he finds objectionable. The story sparked outrage before it ultimately gave into mockery with people making jokes about math being "divisive" and that remainders are "socialist." As blogger JoeMyGod observed, Florida state Rep. Carlos G. Smith asked the DeSantis' administration to show proof that the textbooks were "indoctrinating" the state's youth. What his staff came up with, however, was a problem that wasn't even in one of the books and was actually from Missouri.When DeSantis' press secretary Christina Pushaw posted screen captures of objectionable math problems, it turned people to search which math book would use such a math problem, only to discover that the problem wasn't in a book. It was part of an internet worksheet and the company that posted it online had it removed.www.rawstory.com/ron-desantis-math-books-fraud/
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Post by refugeepea on Apr 19, 2022 1:24:24 GMT
All of these books were banned in four Utah High Schools. I was happily surprised all but Gender Queer is available to borrow through the states online ebook lending library. ETA: Actually not all, it's a bit different, I'll find the list.
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Post by refugeepea on Apr 19, 2022 1:28:59 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 19, 2022 1:29:54 GMT
Education is the problem.... That is the goal, stop education the people. The less they know, the better!! Thinking is the enemy of authoritarianism. To those who have been carefully watching the GOP as they become more openly fascistic, none of this is surprising. As I wrote in December, authoritarians have long taken a dim view of the very concept of education. Even basic literacy and math skills are viewed as a threat because they open the door to critical thinking. Above all else, Republicans do not want a population armed with critical thinking skills. While it doesn't get much mainstream press coverage, conservatives have long been nurturing anger over federal education guidelines, often called "Common Core." These standards aim to give kids a real understanding of math and how it works, instead of simply memorizing multiplication tables and quitting before they get to calculus. Having people understand concepts on a deeper level terrifies the right, however. They prefer a populace that's kept ignorant because they are prone to blindly following authority. So under such circumstances, it's not a surprise that Republicans are expanding their war on learning past schools and targeting libraries, as well. On Sunday, the Washington Post published a chilling story looking at this nationwide attack on reading through one Texas community's battle over the local public library. The religious right in Llano, Texas has been bullying the local library to pull books deemed "pornographic filth," mostly because the books admit racism is real, that LGBTQ people exist and that human beings are naked under their clothes. If that sounds like an exaggeration, it's not: One of the books targeted is "In the Night Kitchen" by Maurice Sendak, a children's book that has a drawing of a naked child that is only "pornographic" to people who think all nudity, even children's nudity, is about sex. Another book is "Between the World and Me" by Ta-Nehisi Coates, clearly targeted for the "pornography" of being about how racism is a real problem that affects real people. As the Post reports, the GOP book banners, "some of whom did not even have library cards," have made incredible headway at circumventing the library's rigorous protocols against censorship. They've been working through the head chair of the governing body of Llano County, a Republican named Ron Cunningham, who simply walked right into the library and pulled the books he didn't want other people to read off the shelf. "The board also needs to recognize that the county is not mandated by law to provide a public library," Cunningham wrote in a letter to Bonnie Wallace, a far-right activist who has been granted secretive but wide-ranging censorship powers. After the Post confronted Cunningham with this letter, which was obtained under a FOIA request, he replied with pablum about how the county is "committed to providing excellent public library services." But, of course, the true attitudes are coming out in that letter and the relentless hostility to educators and librarians in general. Conservatives have long been nurturing anger over federal education guidelines, often called "Common Core."As Kathryn Joyce has demonstrated through expansive reporting for Salon, once you look past the surface talk about "protecting" children and towards the actual organizers and brain trust for the right, it becomes clear that the long-term goal here is destroying public education. In some cases, the plan is to replace it with private and for-profit "schools" that teach fake right-wing science and history. Realistically, for most people who can't afford private school tuition, this GOP plan would likely mean no real education for their kids at all. This is absolutely fine by the authoritarian right, of course, which views functional literacy as a gateway drug to that dreaded "critical thinking." Plus, if poor and middle-class kids don't finish high school, that means that the children of the wealthy have fewer people to compete with for spots in elite universities.Want more Amanda Marcotte on politics? Subscribe to her newsletter Standing Room Only. As Umberto Eco wrote in his fundamental examination of fascism, "All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning." To be functionally literate, instead of being incapable of reading much more than a street sign or a Donald Trump tweet, is to open the door to thinking. Thinking is the enemy of authoritarianism.To be certain, most Americans — even most Republican voters — don't think literacy, much less math skills or scientific knowledge, are bad things. And they certainly wouldn't approve, if they found out how expansive the Republican war on education actually is. That's why these leaders dress up their hatred of education with conspiracy theories about "critical race theory" and "grooming." It's about distracting voters from what's really going on: a full-blown assault on the ability of all kids to receive a basic education. That said, the abject terror that has been instilled in the average Republican voter of "wokeism" has opened the door to radicalizing them towards a fascist view that literacy itself is the enemy. As this battle in Llano shows, it doesn't take much to get conservatives to start taking a dim view of the mere existence of books and libraries. Take this recent propaganda video from Tucker Carlson and Fox News, an unwittingly campy portrayal of "manhood" as being a matter of throwing tires and drinking raw eggs. I promise you are not prepared for Tucker's latest montage *** It's a movement led by Trump, a man who is proudly illiterate and whose social media writers would deliberately inject grammatical errors and misspellings into his tweets to keep up his image as someone who can barely read. Republicans are swiftly reimagining illiteracy not as an embarrassing flaw, but as an aspiration. A child's right to education is caught directly in the crosshairs. www.rawstory.com/republicans-ramp-up-their-mission-to-spread-ignorance/
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Post by refugeepea on Apr 19, 2022 1:29:59 GMT
Yes, you read that right. The Bluest Eye by Toni Morrison because rape is uncomfortable.
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Post by refugeepea on Apr 19, 2022 1:34:53 GMT
A propoganda trick Hitler used "Intellectuals and journalists were suspected of being Socialists or even worse, Communists!"
Also, it's us against them! We are the only one that can save you!
The GOP is the party of Fascists, but I still registered as one because districts are gerrymandered and only registered Republicans can vote in their primaries. I hope to hell Mike Lee resigns, but he's proven he has no conscience.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 19, 2022 1:56:08 GMT
refugeepeaYes, after he said his speach at the Brown Jackson hearing, saying she would not uphold our Constitution. Then the texts... He surely was not upholding our Constitution... He was willing and prepared to back the 'Big lie'!
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Post by circusjohnson on Apr 19, 2022 2:45:27 GMT
school librarian here. I teach 7-9 th graders. I am on my 2nd book challenge this year. the first one was The absolutely True Diary of a Part Time Indian. My committee decided to keep the book. My challenge now is for Thirteen reasons Why, because of the sexual assault in it. As a librarian it is exhausting. In Utah they simply claim something is pornography. Neither book is pornographic.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 19, 2022 2:57:14 GMT
Goes along with, are they going to ban the Bible: incest, murder, and the list goes on...
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Post by monklady123 on Apr 19, 2022 11:51:11 GMT
Just sitting here chuckling, remembering the time that my mom went full Karen on a nun at our Catholic school after I brought home a Judy Blume book from the school library. The nun told her to pound sand and the book stayed in the library. After that, I got better at hiding what I was reading. And the next year I got sent to public school because there was apparently no point in paying private school tuition just to have me exposed to a bunch of liberal nuns. 😂🙄
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