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Post by iamkristinl16 on Apr 19, 2022 2:06:57 GMT
Thanks, everyone. I can see why people are upset with the owner of the Misti. It looks like the cost of the TH on Amazon is about the same as the sale price of the mini Misti at my local store. I probably should just wait to make sure that I actually use the supplies before investing in anything more anyway.
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Post by craftywendy on Apr 19, 2022 5:15:09 GMT
Love my misti! I have the original one and have used it for years with no issues! Pricey but worth the investment.
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Post by scrapnnana on Apr 19, 2022 14:15:30 GMT
Thanks, everyone. I can see why people are upset with the owner of the Misti. It looks like the cost of the TH on Amazon is about the same as the sale price of the mini Misti at my local store. I probably should just wait to make sure that I actually use the supplies before investing in anything more anyway. Stamping supplies and tools can really add up, so I don’t blame you, but I use and enjoy my stamps far more since getting the Tim Holtz platform. I prefer using removable tape to hold my card stock in place, though, rather than the magnets. |
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Post by cbet on Apr 19, 2022 16:19:56 GMT
Late to this thread, but I have most of the platforms out there EXCEPT for the Misti. Along with a couple of diy versions. Really, a platform is worth it if you are going to be stamping. You only need one! I got most of mine on good sales, and I wanted to try them all. So I keep the full-size Tim Holtz for rubber on cling foam (which are most of my background stamps), the Stamparatus mostly for clear and layered stamps because I can set the layers up on the different plates, the 10x10 DIY version is for Concord & 9th Turnabout Stamps . . . etc. If I could have only one, I would go with the Stamparatus from Stampin' Up. And I'm not a huge SU cheerleader. But I like that it comes with the 2 sets of plates. One thing I have done with all of them, though - I have used Sizzix Sticky Grid sheets on all the platforms instead of using the magnets. It keeps the piece you're stamping on in place way better than the magnets, and it doesn't get in the way of what you are stamping either. I got the idea from a youtuber, sorry I don't remember who to give them credit, but it works great.
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Post by pilcas on Apr 19, 2022 17:03:31 GMT
It was a total game changer for me. I love mine and have had it for several years.
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Post by CardBoxer on Apr 19, 2022 20:00:03 GMT
If I was going to buy yet another stamping platform, it would be the one Natasha Foote in NZ uses. I’m a fan of her approach to card making. A feature it has that the other platforms don’t is that after a stamp is inked the lid can be lowered to check exact placement on the cardstock without the stamp touching the cardstock until pressed down. That would also be handy if needing to double stamp when the cardstock has shifted or has been removed before realizing a spot didn’t stamp well and it needs to re-stamped. (I use a clear grid sheet to check some positions, especially of sentiments.) The Craftstash website has a demo of the platform, though If I ever buy one I’d use a link on Natasha’s youtube channel in case it’s an affiliate link. www.craftstash.us/creative-craft-products-stamp-platform-with-magnets.htmlYoutube video with affiliate link and Natasha using the platform: youtu.be/LZwersUy6As |
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Post by amp on Apr 19, 2022 21:16:27 GMT
I'm a little late to the game...does anyone want to elaborate on the drama with the Misti owner? Some of the early MISTIs cracked, and stampers here complained that she refused to replace them. Because of this, people gave their opinions, and many started thinking about trying to make their own. Don showed his home made version, and she showed up on the board and demanded that he remove the photo, or he would hear from her lawyer. Her hinge stamp platform was essentially an adaptation of a hinged letterpress, which stampers have used for years, but she somehow got a patent. The manufacturers of other stamp platforms had some creative, significant differences from hers, (in my opinion, at least as much of a difference as her platform was from the letterpress). She sued all her competition. Most agreed to settle rather than keep racking up legal fees. Last I heard, Stampin’ Up was the only one still fighting her lawsuit against them. I assume they hoped to get her patent overturned in court. I don’t know the outcome, or if it is still ongoing. I found the original main MISTI thread. It’s 17 pages long. Don’s posting of his home made version and her response to that actually came before complaints were posted about her refusing to replace MISTIs which cracked. Link to MISTI controversy
Oh, HECK NO!!! That is WRONG! No more Misti for me. I'm going to get my Tim Holtz platform working well. Thanks for posting it. |
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Post by CardBoxer on Apr 19, 2022 21:46:46 GMT
A UK shop owner who several of us (on another forum) bought Tim platforms from before they were sold in the U.S. told me that one of her employees made a little platform - like Don did - and showed it on youtube. MSP threatened to sue her if she didn’t take it off and the employee was apparently in tears when she called her boss to tell her. She also said if Misti’s arrived damaged, MSP would not make it right - the shop had to eat the cost.
I bought a mini Misti for $5.00 at a going out of business sale for an LSS near me.
Speaking of SU, sometimes what goes round comes round. Years ago the creator/manufacturer of different product and SU were engaged in a lawsuit about his product, but he had to give up since they had much deeper pockets than he did with his little company. So lawsuits happen in this industry like in every industry. No surprise - it’s business.
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Post by scrapnnana on Apr 20, 2022 12:30:26 GMT
Speaking of SU, sometimes what goes round comes round. Years ago the creator/manufacturer of different product sued SU for copying his product with almost no changes, but he had to give up since they had much deeper pockets than he did with his little company. So lawsuits happen in this industry like in every industry. No surprise - it’s business. I can’t find anything on the internet about anyone other than MSP suing SU. The legal system is supposed to protect the interests of inventors, designers, etc., from others. It doesn’t always work that way, unfortunately. That is when the court of public opinion can be effective, to at least some extent. I assume that the “business is business” attitude was the excuse for Sizzix’s lawsuit against smaller companies like Heartfelt Creations. What Sizzix did may have technically been legal, but I still feel that it was unethical, and I refuse to buy from Sizzix. That lawsuit was halted due to covid, but in a way that allows Ellison/Sizzix to try again later. I’m hoping that the customer reaction to the lawsuit diminished their sales enough to keep them from bringing it back to the courts again. |
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Post by CardBoxer on Apr 20, 2022 13:24:19 GMT
Speaking of SU, sometimes what goes round comes round. Years ago the creator/manufacturer of different product sued SU for copying his product with almost no changes, but he had to give up since they had much deeper pockets than he did with his little company. So lawsuits happen in this industry like in every industry. No surprise - it’s business. I can’t find anything on the internet about anyone other than MSP suing SU. The legal system is supposed to protect the interests of inventors, designers, etc., from others. It doesn’t always work that way, unfortunately. That is when the court of public opinion can be effective, to at least some extent. I assume that the “business is business” attitude was the excuse for Sizzix’s lawsuit against smaller companies like Heartfelt Creations. What Sizzix did may have technically been legal, but I still feel that it was unethical, and I refuse to buy from Sizzix. That lawsuit was halted due to covid, but in a way that allows Ellison/Sizzix to try again later. I’m hoping that the customer reaction to the lawsuit diminished their sales enough to keep them from bringing it back to the courts again. It was quite a long time ago; the owner of the other company told me about it. There are a handful of lawsuits involving SU that pop up on line. They mostly are SU attempts to protect patents, copyrights and IP. Without researching each case the details aren’t obvious. Some appear to be against large companies, others small. Btw, when I said it’s business, that wasn’t to excuse it. While there may be more cooperation among paper crafting companies than there is in some other industries, the bottom line obviously drives some more than others, right? Of course MSP comes to mind. How she figured there wouldn’t be a backlash when she went after individual hobbyists is a mystery. And who knows how much it’s hurt her. |
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Post by scrapnnana on Apr 20, 2022 14:03:07 GMT
Do you know what the product was that SU sold, that was reportedly someone else’s design/invention?
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Post by CardBoxer on Apr 20, 2022 23:12:35 GMT
Yes, they told me about it.
And here we go again, maybe - pinklady's recent post.
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Post by kitbop on Apr 22, 2022 19:54:47 GMT
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Post by infochick on Apr 22, 2022 22:07:51 GMT
I have the small Hampton Arts stamp press and it works great. It was a complete game changer for me. I did eventually cave and buy the full size "Memory Misti" as much as I didn't care for all the drama with the business owner. I have some really huge Carabelle Studio stamps and none of other platforms adequately fit those stamps for positioning on a 12x12 layout. It was expensive, but I don't regret the purchase. It makes it much easier for me to make use of those stamps which can otherwise be tricky to use.
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Post by Shakti on Oct 30, 2022 23:50:26 GMT
New here -- found you all while googling a question. I hope it's appropriate to ask it here. If not, please let me know if there's a better thread in this forum.
I'm getting back into paper crafts after a long hiatus. I've put a SU Stamparatus on my Christmas list. I am also really interested in Concord and 9ths turnabout stamps. Their instructions and instructional videos all specifically call for the use of the MISTI, not for a generic stamping platform or stamp positioning tool.
Does anyone here have any experience using the turnabout stamps and jigs with another stamp positioner? Preferably the Stamparatus, but I think hearing about experiences with anything other than the MISTI would be helpful.
Thanks!
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Post by pinklady on Oct 30, 2022 23:56:08 GMT
New here -- found you all while googling a question. I hope it's appropriate to ask it here. If not, please let me know if there's a better thread in this forum. I'm getting back into paper crafts after a long hiatus. I've put a SU Stamparatus on my Christmas list. I am also really interested in Concord and 9ths turnabout stamps. Their instructions and instructional videos all specifically call for the use of the MISTI, not for a generic stamping platform or stamp positioning took. Does anyone here have any experience using the turnabout stamps and jigs with another stamp positioned? Preferably the Stamparatus, but I think hearing about experiences with anything other than the MISTI would be helpful. Thanks! I don’t have any experience using turnabouts in something other than a misti. You might get more/better responses if you start a new thread on the card making board but Let me tag a couple people and see if they have any advice for turnabouts. azcrafty cmpeter Ryann joblackford MichyM |
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Post by KikiPea on Oct 31, 2022 0:13:17 GMT
I don’t support the Misti, but am asking for the small Tim Holtz version for Christmas.
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Post by joblackford on Oct 31, 2022 0:24:59 GMT
New here -- found you all while googling a question. I hope it's appropriate to ask it here. If not, please let me know if there's a better thread in this forum. I'm getting back into paper crafts after a long hiatus. I've put a SU Stamparatus on my Christmas list. I am also really interested in Concord and 9ths turnabout stamps. Their instructions and instructional videos all specifically call for the use of the MISTI, not for a generic stamping platform or stamp positioning took. Does anyone here have any experience using the turnabout stamps and jigs with another stamp positioned? Preferably the Stamparatus, but I think hearing about experiences with anything other than the MISTI would be helpful. Thanks! I don’t have any experience using turnabouts in something other than a misti. You might get more/better responses if you start a new thread on the card making board but Let me tag a couple people and see if they have any advice for turnabouts. azcrafty cmpeter Ryann joblackford MichyM I haven't used the turnabouts or the stamparatus but I googled it and it looks like it should work just like the misti. If I'm not mistaken the owner of the misti company goes after any crafting company that mentions stamp positioners that are similar to her design - that's the only explanation I have for why they all act as if the others don't exist, and it's consistent with her behavior that's been noted in detail here. From what I see the SU platform has the same basic design with a few extra features so I can't imagine it would work any differently. |
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Post by Shakti on Oct 31, 2022 0:30:27 GMT
Thank you!
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Post by cmpeter on Oct 31, 2022 0:34:25 GMT
Unfortunately, I've only used mine with the Misti.
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Post by Ryann on Oct 31, 2022 1:30:21 GMT
I also don’t support the Misti, and use a Tim Holtz stamp platform. I don’t have the C9 turnabout tool, so no personal experience to share. I was able to find these on YT: youtu.be/P9XWKu5iRl0youtu.be/Ot5ED_54IbY |
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Post by naby64 on Oct 31, 2022 1:31:35 GMT
I have used it with my TH stamp positioner. It doesn't matter what platform you use. You just want to make sure to have their little jig thing to use for proper turning.
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Post by JavaJones on Oct 31, 2022 11:03:35 GMT
I have a Tim Holtz stamping platform and the Turn About jig. It will work in any stamping platform.  |
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Post by Shakti on Oct 31, 2022 11:40:16 GMT
Perfect! Those you tube videos didn't come up in my search and I don't have time to watch now, but I will later. Thank you all.
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Post by scrappypeanut on Oct 31, 2022 14:01:35 GMT
I have a Misti. It’s a must for me. Use it as much as my paper trimmer. I had no idea about the story and controversy behind her. Regret giving her my money!
If Altenew is going to put one out I bet it is going to be a good one!!!
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Post by papersilly on Oct 31, 2022 17:09:49 GMT
the issues with cracking and the lawsuit bruhaha were the reasons i opted for the TM platform. it is very sturdy and i can't imagine any circumstance where that thick acrylic would crack. i'm happy with my choice.
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Post by BSnyder on Nov 1, 2022 3:35:49 GMT
I have the TH and a Misti. I much prefer the Misti…just wish the owner was t such a pill. If you want to do a lot of stamping, I think a stamp platform is the best tool. I bought the Mini Misti before most of the drama ensued, or maybe I wasn’t yet aware. My shock and disappointment came with the fact it is inscribed with a bible verse, which I don’t believe is disclosed unless you buy from My Sweet Petunia directly. Christian or not, I don’t feel a tool marketed to the general stamping public should have a permanent religious inscription of any sort, particularly when it is not prominently disclosed in the product description. Adding insult to injury is that no one else is allowed to make one and market one, or anything close to it, without such a quote, because they will be taken to court for patent infringement. I should add that I most often use the Michaels Hampton Arts knock off even through I have both sizes of the TH platform. I find it a bit heavy when moving it around after working on crafting over several hours. |
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Post by anrobe on Nov 1, 2022 19:40:45 GMT
I won't buy a Misti but I really like my TH platform ... when I remember to use it!
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Post by ComplicatedLady on Nov 1, 2022 19:50:22 GMT
Quoting myself here because I really like my stamp platform. I plan to get it out this week sometime to work on holiday cards. This is the only one I’ve used so I can’t compare it to the Misti or to the TH one. Also, this is a Canadian company (for those interested in a platform but don’t want to pay shipping costs to Canada from the US). I don’t remember how much shipping was to the US but I don’t remember it being obnoxious. |
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Post by hop2 on Nov 1, 2022 20:45:18 GMT
A UK shop owner who several of us (on another forum) bought Tim platforms from before they were sold in the U.S. told me that one of her employees made a little platform - like Don did - and showed it on youtube. MSP threatened to sue her if she didn’t take it off and the employee was apparently in tears when she called her boss to tell her. She also said if Misti’s arrived damaged, MSP would not make it right - the shop had to eat the cost. I bought a mini Misti for $5.00 at a going out of business sale for an LSS near me. Speaking of SU, sometimes what goes round comes round. Years ago the creator/manufacturer of different product and SU were engaged in a lawsuit about his product, but he had to give up since they had much deeper pockets than he did with his little company. So lawsuits happen in this industry like in every industry. No surprise - it’s business. Yes, lawsuits happen, but you don’t come online and threaten people who’ve hinged 2 plastic pieces together and use it in their homes. I’ve heard of her doing this to people multiple times. For fuck’s sake the home made versions are as different from her misti as the misti is from a letter press which existed for many years before her damned misti. She is just a bully and I won’t ever give her a penny of my money. Full stop. I will use anything but her products. She’s trying to payent a ruler that already exists as well. |
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