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Post by mom on May 4, 2022 12:26:11 GMT
Oh c’mon, he is not gonna kill her. They have, like, a connection. lol You’re right though, at 6’9” he’ll be hard to hide. We’ll see I guess. I give ‘em another week, tops. Anyone else want to make a prediction on capture? DEFINITELY following this one! Layce I think less than a week, depending if they’re still driving their fireball of a car. If they still have it, I think they’ll be seen by Friday. IMHO neither one is coming out alive.
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Post by bc2ca on May 4, 2022 18:45:55 GMT
Was she trying to throw off a timeline of them coming to look for them? Or did she really not feel well and her day didn't eventually go as planned because she was overpowered by the inmate? IMHO, she was buying them time to make the getaway. No one would have been looking for them for a couple hours. I have also read that this was his second time in this prison so it would be possible that they knew each other previously. The update I heard this morning says they first met in 2020 and "may" have maintained a relationship. He was getting special privileges when he came back to the jail, including more and better food according to other inmates. This CNN article also mentions that security was tightened at the jail after CW's escape plans in 2020 were uncovered.
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Post by luckyjune on May 4, 2022 20:19:21 GMT
I did read that Rainn Wilson contacted John Krasinski and Angela Kinsey and suggested they buy the rights to the story...
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Post by librarylady on May 4, 2022 21:23:36 GMT
She sold her home so has a large amount of money for now. He won't be able to hide, but she is average looking so with dyed hair, new hairstyle she can disappear for awhile.
I don't think the people involved in stories like this think it through--the person will have to stay hidden for the rest of one's life....and have no contact with family or friends FOREVER. That is a difficult way to live.
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Post by sunnyd on May 4, 2022 22:49:57 GMT
but she is average looking so with dyed hair, new hairstyle she can disappear for awhile. According to the news, she has a distinctive "waddling gait" that would be easy to spot. But other than that, I agree, she could have easily changed her appearance. On the alert notice for the vehicle, Marshals reveal Vicky White has two aliases: April Davis and Renee Marie Maxwell. Is it normal for jail employees to have aliases for their safety or why would she have those? ETA: Also, I read that Vicky White's relationship with Casey White may be started in 2020. Vicky White's husband died in January 2022. Maybe they should look closer at his cause of death.
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Post by bc2ca on May 5, 2022 3:01:54 GMT
ETA: Also, I read that Vicky White's relationship with Casey White may be started in 2020. Vicky White's husband died in January 2022. Maybe they should look closer at his cause of death. I don't know why they describe her as a widow. She and her ex divorced in 1991 after three years of marriage when she left because of his drug use. ETA According to this article he died from complications with Parkinson's Disease.
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Post by maryannscraps on May 5, 2022 11:33:02 GMT
She helped him escape, ran off with him, and now she's the weak link. I doubt she's still alive.
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Post by mom on May 9, 2022 21:54:13 GMT
Well, it looks like they've been captured in Evansville, IN after a chase. Sounds like both are still alive (as of now). They tried shooting themselves (reportedly).
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Post by tracylynn on May 9, 2022 22:30:13 GMT
It appears she has a self-inflicted gun wound. No update on her condition.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 9, 2022 22:45:04 GMT
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on May 10, 2022 1:30:40 GMT
She died from the gunshot wound.
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Post by luvnlifelady on May 10, 2022 2:41:03 GMT
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Post by luvnlifelady on May 10, 2022 2:42:12 GMT
She died from the gunshot wound. Wow, what a crazy story! She put in all those years of service and was ready for retirement and then gave it all up.
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Post by edie3 on May 10, 2022 2:47:47 GMT
I feel like he knew what she needed to hear, and she was totally enamored with him. He played her like a guitar, and at the end she had nothing left to lose.
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Post by samantha25 on May 10, 2022 2:52:13 GMT
I feel like he knew what she needed to hear, and she was totally enamored with him. He played her like a guitar, and at the end she had nothing left to lose. I think "he" had nothing left to lose. She lost her life because of him.
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Post by gar on May 10, 2022 8:00:12 GMT
What a sad waste of her life
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2022 8:56:15 GMT
I feel like he knew what she needed to hear, and she was totally enamored with him. He played her like a guitar, and at the end she had nothing left to lose. I think "he" had nothing left to lose. She lost her life because of him. She lost her life because of the choices "she" made, sadly. I took edie3 's post to mean it was an either or situation for her at the end. She knew what it would have been like for her behind bars in jail so she chose the alternative. A sad situation for someone that had such an exemplary career. I feel so sorry for her mother and her family.
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Post by edie3 on May 10, 2022 14:49:39 GMT
I guess I meant she had lost it all because of him. Her job her retirement her house. She had nothing left to live for.
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Post by mom on May 10, 2022 15:27:47 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out later that he shot her.
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Post by epeanymous on May 10, 2022 15:51:03 GMT
I guess I meant she had lost it all because of him. Her job her retirement her house. She had nothing left to live for. She also understood, better than anyone, what her life would be like in prison.
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Post by nursema on May 10, 2022 21:41:43 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out later that he shot her. Bingo! Even though she was in an awful pickle, I don’t believe for a second that she pulled the trigger. I’m sure LE doesn’t believe a word that comes out of his mouth, if that’s their (only) source. Eager to hear what the evidence proves.
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Post by Jili on May 10, 2022 22:38:53 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out later that he shot her. Bingo! Even though she was in an awful pickle, I don’t believe for a second that she pulled the trigger. I’m sure LE doesn’t believe a word that comes out of his mouth, if that’s their (only) source. Eager to hear what the evidence proves. It’s hard to say until the autopsy results are in, but I read that she was found with the gun in her hand, and that she had been in the phone with 911 mid-chase, telling the operator that she had a gun to her head (which can be interpreted a couple of different ways). Edited to add that there’s video of the Evansville police removing the gun from her hand and pulling her from the car. Thankfully, her torso and head are blurred out.
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Post by nursema on May 11, 2022 3:56:11 GMT
Bingo! Even though she was in an awful pickle, I don’t believe for a second that she pulled the trigger. I’m sure LE doesn’t believe a word that comes out of his mouth, if that’s their (only) source. Eager to hear what the evidence proves. It’s hard to say until the autopsy results are in, but I read that she was found with the gun in her hand, and that she had been in the phone with 911 mid-chase, telling the operator that she had a gun to her head (which can be interpreted a couple of different ways). Edited to add that there’s video of the Evansville police removing the fun from her hand and pulling her from the car. Thankfully, her torso and head are blurred out. It will definitely be interesting to see which of the possible interpretations are supported by the evidence. I am so curious. I can’t imagine what would have been going through her head during the chase if, after all that had gone on, HE was the one holding the gun to her head. I have to wonder if that may have been the first time she realized that she was expendable.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 11, 2022 4:03:52 GMT
Just heard a short bit that they found a gun in her hand. True or not I do not know.
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Post by Skellinton on May 11, 2022 4:07:43 GMT
Just heard a short bit that they found a gun in her hand. True or not I do not know. He could have put the gun in her hand, right? I am assuming they will do gun shot residue checks. I don't believe for a second that if he did kill her the forensic team won't figure it out. I could see her dying by suicide or him killing her. Both are equally plausible, imho
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Post by nursema on May 11, 2022 4:11:51 GMT
Just heard a short bit that they found a gun in her hand. True or not I do not know. He could have put the gun in her hand, right? I am assuming they will do gun shot residue checks. I don't believe for a second that if he did kill her the forensic team won't figure it out. I could see her dying by suicide or him killing her. Both are equally plausible, imho The fact that the gun was found in her hand actually makes me think it more likely that he WAS the one who pulled the trigger.
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Post by Zee on May 11, 2022 4:37:20 GMT
Why is everyone so quick to think she was some sort of victim rather than an accomplice, or that he killed her? She's hardly the first woman to throw her life away for a man, and she probably didn't want to go to prison knowing how that would probably turn out for a former corrections officer.
None of this surprises me in the least, other than the fact they thought a 6'9" 300+ lb man could hide anywhere unnoticed.
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Post by nursema on May 11, 2022 5:22:06 GMT
Why is everyone so quick to think she was some sort of victim rather than an accomplice, or that he killed her? She's hardly the first woman to throw her life away for a man, and she probably didn't want to go to prison knowing how that would probably turn out for a former corrections officer. None of this surprises me in the least, other than the fact they thought a 6'9" 300+ lb man could hide anywhere unnoticed. A couple of points which make me lean toward his having fired the gun: Statistically, it’s far more common that the gun does not remain in the hand of the victim of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. From his perspective, nothing good would result from a living accomplice who is able to talk to law enforcement. No matter how screwed he is, she was still a liability and could spill all of his tricks, for one thing. She could also challenge and disprove the bullshit he planned to spew to investigators.
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Post by Jili on May 11, 2022 6:03:51 GMT
I guess it remains to be seen, but I am fascinated by this whole situation, too. I think it's certainly plausible that she pulled the trigger. The video of the police removing the gun and then pulling her out of the car seems to indicate that her finger was on the trigger. I think it would have been difficult for Casey White to have positioned the gun that way in the moving vehicle with police chasing.
I'm leaning toward a suicide situation (and the autopsy results released today indicate that- I'd assume that there was some evidence regarding trajectory of the bullet). I'd like to see what it says.
With that said, I heard the audio of the 911 call she made, and it didn't sound to me as if she was about to take her own life. She mentioned getting out of the car and making a run for it. She also stated that they should have stayed at the hotel. But then again, when you're desperate, decisions can be made impulsively. She had a lot to lose. She knew what would kind of life would await her if she was caught. Casey White, on the other hand, had nothing to lose. He would just be sent back 'home' in the end. So who knows.
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Post by mom on May 11, 2022 10:47:35 GMT
Why is everyone so quick to think she was some sort of victim rather than an accomplice, or that he killed her? She's hardly the first woman to throw her life away for a man, and she probably didn't want to go to prison knowing how that would probably turn out for a former corrections officer. None of this surprises me in the least, other than the fact they thought a 6'9" 300+ lb man could hide anywhere unnoticed. A couple of points which make me lean toward his having fired the gun: Statistically, it’s far more common that the gun does not remain in the hand of the victim of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. From his perspective, nothing good would result from a living accomplice who is able to talk to law enforcement. No matter how screwed he is, she was still a liability and could spill all of his tricks, for one thing. She could also challenge and disprove the bullshit he planned to spew to investigators. I agree with this. I also believed he would kill her before they were caught. He’d been convicted of attempted murder already and was awaiting trial for another murder he had confessed to…it just doesn’t seem like a long jump to think he would have shot her too.
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