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Post by mom on May 3, 2022 3:11:53 GMT
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Post by mom on May 3, 2022 3:13:13 GMT
IMHO she is definitely an accomplice. She sold her home for undervalue quickly, turned in her retirement papers, etc. She is knee deep in this. I don't think they will find her alive though. I suspect CW will kill her once she isn't needed.
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Post by vintagehollyhobbie on May 3, 2022 3:16:09 GMT
I think she helped him escape. I also think she was a fool to believe he wouldn't kill her too.
I hope she's alive and I hope they are caught and returned to jail without incident. Unfortunately she was armed, so that doesn't bode well for them.
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Post by Lexica on May 3, 2022 3:20:28 GMT
IMHO she is definitely an accomplice. She sold her home for undervalue quickly, turned in her retirement papers, etc. She is knee deep in this. I don't think they will find her alive though. I suspect CW will kill her once she isn't needed. My immediate thought when I first heard of this yesterday was that she was involved in it. Now reading that she sold her house, yes, she is involved. Too bad. I read she had worked at that job for 20 years with a terrific record. Sigh. What we women will do for love.
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Post by refugeepea on May 3, 2022 3:25:12 GMT
At 6'9" I hope he is easily found. That might be his incentive for keeping her alive. She can blend in better. He can hide out while she goes out in public for buying things.
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Post by bc2ca on May 3, 2022 3:25:24 GMT
My thoughts is that he targeted and manipulated her to help him. He has only been in her jail since February. She set up the medical appointment story and broke protocol by taking him alone. She went willing and will only stay alive as long as she is useful to him. I do wonder how long she has been widowed and whether that was a factor in her state of mind.
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Post by mom on May 3, 2022 3:33:00 GMT
My thoughts is that he targeted and manipulated her to help him. He has only been in her jail since February. She set up the medical appointment story and broke protocol by taking him alone. She went willing and will only stay alive as long as she is useful to him. I do wonder how long she has been widowed and whether that was a factor in her state of mind. I've read that her ex died in January...they were actually divorced when he died but still friends. I have also read that this was his second time in this prison so it would be possible that they knew each other previously. Some think he intentionally manipulated the prison system to get sent back there (he recanted a confession, etc).
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Post by busy on May 3, 2022 3:34:45 GMT
I kind of don’t think if the genders were reversed that anyone would be reacting with such concern for the officer or provide possible empathetic reasons why she would make such a string of terrible decisions.
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Post by bc2ca on May 3, 2022 3:46:20 GMT
I've read that her ex died in January...they were actually divorced when he died but still friends. So she was a divorcee not a widow.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 3, 2022 3:52:38 GMT
She seemed to have known what she said as doing ... Never take an inmate alone!!
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Post by gina on May 3, 2022 3:53:41 GMT
She is absolutely involved.
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Post by auntkelly on May 3, 2022 15:04:39 GMT
I think she is involved.
I've always been intrigued by a similar story that happened in Oklahoma about thirty years' ago. A prison warden's wife went missing w/ an inmate who had been convicted of murder. He was a talented artist and had a big following in the international arts community. By all accounts, he was very charismatic and was a jail trustee, often doing odd jobs around the prison. He even did odd jobs around the warden's home.
One day the inmate and the warden's wife turned up missing. They lived together as husband and wife under false names for a long time before they were found by authorities. The wife never faced charges. She claimed the inmate held her against her will, even though neighbors said she came and went from her home with the inmate as often as she wished. She didn't tell anyone she was being held captive nor did she try and get in touch with her husband and three small children. The evidence against was pretty strong if I remember correctly, but charges were never filed against her and the prison warden stood behind his wife.
I always think these cases are fascinating. What makes someone fall in love with a murderer and why in the world would you trust a murderer with your life?
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Post by mom on May 3, 2022 15:07:49 GMT
I think she is involved. I've always been intrigued by a similar story that happened in Oklahoma about thirty years' ago. A prison warden's wife went missing w/ an inmate who had been convicted of murder. He was a talented artist and had a big following in the international arts community. By all accounts, he was very charismatic and was a jail trustee, often doing odd jobs around the prison. He even did odd jobs around the warden's home. One day the inmate and the warden's wife turned up missing. They lived together as husband and wife under false names for a long time before they were found by authorities. The wife never faced charges. She claimed the inmate held her against her will, even though neighbors said she came and went from her home with the inmate as often as she wished. She didn't tell anyone she was being held captive nor did she try and get in touch with her husband and three small children. The evidence against was pretty strong if I remember correctly, but charges were never filed against her and the prison warden stood behind his wife. I always think these cases are fascinating. What makes someone fall in love with a murderer and why in the world would you trust a murderer with your life? Are you thinking of Bobbi Parker? I remember this case and saw an update a few years ago that she was finally found guilty. abcnews.go.com/US/oklahoma-jail-wardens-wife-found-guilty-helping-inmate/story?id=14572638
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Post by Anita on May 3, 2022 15:14:40 GMT
I think she is definitely involved, and I have no sympathy for her.
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Post by tc on May 3, 2022 15:28:21 GMT
I don't know what to think, but I also can't get past the "I'm not feeling well and I'm going to go to this medical facility to get checked out on my last day of work ever" element. That just makes zero sense to me. But I also don't work in the justice system. Was she trying to throw off a timeline of them coming to look for them? Or did she really not feel well and her day didn't eventually go as planned because she was overpowered by the inmate?
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Post by mom on May 3, 2022 15:36:18 GMT
I don't know what to think, but I also can't get past the "I'm not feeling well and I'm going to go to this medical facility to get checked out on my last day of work ever" element. That just makes zero sense to me. But I also don't work in the justice system. Was she trying to throw off a timeline of them coming to look for them? Or did she really not feel well and her day didn't eventually go as planned because she was overpowered by the inmate? In my mind, she was going herself an alibi as to where she was instead of where she should have been (reporting back to work). But who knows.
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Post by workingclassdog on May 3, 2022 15:36:56 GMT
This has been on my radar.. first thing here at our prison.. there is NO WAY we would ever have one person escort anyone anywhere. There are ALWAYS at least two people, and multiple check procedures. Why one person was allowed this blows my mind. And the guy is in for murder... I just don't get it.
My husband sent me the story when it first happened and says "reminding you not to fall in love" ..lol
I am 98% sure she is involved. (Especially with the updates)
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Post by sunnyd on May 3, 2022 15:41:53 GMT
Involved & likely dead. He has already killed 2 women. She will be the 3rd.
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Post by auntkelly on May 3, 2022 15:49:18 GMT
I think she is involved. I've always been intrigued by a similar story that happened in Oklahoma about thirty years' ago. A prison warden's wife went missing w/ an inmate who had been convicted of murder. He was a talented artist and had a big following in the international arts community. By all accounts, he was very charismatic and was a jail trustee, often doing odd jobs around the prison. He even did odd jobs around the warden's home. One day the inmate and the warden's wife turned up missing. They lived together as husband and wife under false names for a long time before they were found by authorities. The wife never faced charges. She claimed the inmate held her against her will, even though neighbors said she came and went from her home with the inmate as often as she wished. She didn't tell anyone she was being held captive nor did she try and get in touch with her husband and three small children. The evidence against was pretty strong if I remember correctly, but charges were never filed against her and the prison warden stood behind his wife. I always think these cases are fascinating. What makes someone fall in love with a murderer and why in the world would you trust a murderer with your life? Are you thinking of Bobbi Parker? I remember this case and saw an update a few years ago that she was finally found guilty. abcnews.go.com/US/oklahoma-jail-wardens-wife-found-guilty-helping-inmate/story?id=14572638Yes. Bobbi Parker. I had forgotten that she went to prison. She always maintained her innocence, and husband took her back after she got out of prison. I find these stories so fascinating!
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Post by librarylady on May 3, 2022 16:05:32 GMT
She is a fool who thinks she is in love. He is too tall to hide.
IMO, they are headed to Mexico to live freely (they think) and "be in love." He will use her as long as necessary and then her body will be found.
Mexico will extradite murderers. If that is the plan, it won't work.
It is hard to live the rest of you life hiding from the law.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2022 16:42:59 GMT
She's definitely involved:-
Why would an innocent person take someone to a fictitious appointment? Why go against protocol and take him alone to this fictitious appointment? She's pre-planned this in selling her house to access the finance She's handed in her retirement notice and yet she didn't tell her own mother, who she lived with, that she was retiring?
She's in it up to her neck. It's not the first time that a prison officer, male or female have been so infatuated by an inmate and assisted them to escape/supply them with drugs/have sex with them while on duty and whatever other favours one can think of. Some people let their hearts rule their heads and they become like silly young teenagers again.
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Post by bc2ca on May 3, 2022 16:46:35 GMT
This has been on my radar.. first thing here at our prison.. there is NO WAY we would ever have one person escort anyone anywhere. There are ALWAYS at least two people, and multiple check procedures. Why one person was allowed this blows my mind. And the guy is in for murder... I just don't get it. It was a small county jail vs a prison. IMHO, there is no doubt he saw the differences in security as his opportunity for freedom before heading back to prison for the rest of his life. If he could get someone to help him. Part of her job was to coordinate transfers and, as assistant director, no one questioned what she was doing.
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Post by papersilly on May 3, 2022 16:48:52 GMT
she is an absolute accomplice! the fake mental eval? the fake illness on her part so she had an excuse not to come back to work later that day? and leading up to all that, her putting in for retirement? her selling her house? all seems very suspicious and coincidental. she's totally in on it. they will find her alive and arrest her too.
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Post by ChicagoKTS on May 3, 2022 16:55:37 GMT
My guess is was groomed by a predator in the same way any predator grooms their target victim for whatever the reason may be.
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Post by peabay on May 3, 2022 16:59:48 GMT
She went willingly. I hope she's still alive.
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Post by auntkelly on May 3, 2022 17:40:45 GMT
This has been on my radar.. first thing here at our prison.. there is NO WAY we would ever have one person escort anyone anywhere. There are ALWAYS at least two people, and multiple check procedures. Why one person was allowed this blows my mind. And the guy is in for murder... I just don't get it. It was a small county jail vs a prison. IMHO, there is no doubt he saw the differences in security as his opportunity for freedom before heading back to prison for the rest of his life. If he could get someone to help him. Part of her job was to coordinate transfers and, as assistant director, no one questioned what she was doing. I’m not that shocked this happened. There was a sheriff in a small town near where I live who allowed a volunteer retired law enforcement officer to transport prisoners in the county jail to medical appointments. The volunteer told the sheriff he would work for free, but only wanted to escort female prisoners. (Apparently the “female prisoners only” request didn’t raise any red flags in the sheriff’s mind). Not surprisingly, the volunteer molested many of the female prisoners he escorted to medical appointments. He told the prisoners that if they told on him, he would make sure their time in prison was a living hell. Finally, a local attorney’s wife was thrown in jail for DUI. While she was sitting in jail, the other female prisoners told her what was going on. Her husband ended up representing the women in a lawsuit against the county wherein they were awarded a large judgment.
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Post by bc2ca on May 4, 2022 3:35:48 GMT
I’m not that shocked this happened. There was a sheriff in a small town near where I live who allowed a volunteer retired law enforcement officer to transport prisoners in the county jail to medical appointments. The volunteer told the sheriff he would work for free, but only wanted to escort female prisoners. (Apparently the “female prisoners only” request didn’t raise any red flags in the sheriff’s mind). Not surprisingly, the volunteer molested many of the female prisoners he escorted to medical appointments. He told the prisoners that if they told on him, he would make sure their time in prison was a living hell. Finally, a local attorney’s wife was thrown in jail for DUI. While she was sitting in jail, the other female prisoners told her what was going on. Her husband ended up representing the women in a lawsuit against the county wherein they were awarded a large judgment.
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Post by Lexica on May 4, 2022 3:46:26 GMT
I think she is involved. I've always been intrigued by a similar story that happened in Oklahoma about thirty years' ago. A prison warden's wife went missing w/ an inmate who had been convicted of murder. He was a talented artist and had a big following in the international arts community. By all accounts, he was very charismatic and was a jail trustee, often doing odd jobs around the prison. He even did odd jobs around the warden's home. One day the inmate and the warden's wife turned up missing. They lived together as husband and wife under false names for a long time before they were found by authorities. The wife never faced charges. She claimed the inmate held her against her will, even though neighbors said she came and went from her home with the inmate as often as she wished. She didn't tell anyone she was being held captive nor did she try and get in touch with her husband and three small children. The evidence against was pretty strong if I remember correctly, but charges were never filed against her and the prison warden stood behind his wife. I always think these cases are fascinating. What makes someone fall in love with a murderer and why in the world would you trust a murderer with your life? What a strange story. How could she leave her children? I can maybe understand leaving your husband for another man, even a murderer. I imagine she felt he either didn't do it or if he did that it was accidental or something. Not just a vengeful intentional murder. Fine. But leave your children? Of course, I think I prefer leaving them to taking them to live with a murder. I'm amazed that her husband stood behind her. He does not sound like the kind of husband she would be desperate to get away from.
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Post by Layce on May 4, 2022 11:27:48 GMT
Oh c’mon, he is not gonna kill her. They have, like, a connection.
lol
You’re right though, at 6’9” he’ll be hard to hide. We’ll see I guess. I give ‘em another week, tops. Anyone else want to make a prediction on capture?
DEFINITELY following this one!
Layce
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Post by mikklynn on May 4, 2022 11:33:01 GMT
IMHO she is definitely an accomplice. She sold her home for undervalue quickly, turned in her retirement papers, etc. She is knee deep in this. I don't think they will find her alive though. I suspect CW will kill her once she isn't needed. That is what I think, too.
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