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Post by ntsf on Jul 22, 2022 16:12:04 GMT
fanone.. that is someone I would want to have work for and protect me!!
his comments of public vs private behavior of members of congress is not surprising.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 23, 2022 2:13:04 GMT
What I posted the other day.. *** Director James M. Murray www.secretservice.gov › about › leadership › director As Director, Mr. Murray is responsible for the successful execution of the integrated Investigative and Protective missions of the Secret Service Appointed by former... What about Ornato?? *** James Murray is leaving at the end of next week. He has not stated whether he has saved his text messages yet.
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Post by dawnnikol on Jul 23, 2022 11:58:00 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 23, 2022 13:38:07 GMT
Too bad, giving him advertising at no cost to him, same as the tee shirts.
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 23, 2022 15:34:55 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 23, 2022 18:07:19 GMT
I guess I am living in a fantasy world, but my main take from these hearings, especially last night, was why the hell didn’t somebody other than TFG - the Generals in charge of the military, Homeland Security, whoever - declare a state of emergency and immediately stop the rioters with force. TFG was OBVIOUSLY deranged and delusional and peoples’ lives were at stake. The Secret Service was making calls to their family to say goodbye, FFS! I can’t wrap my head around the fact that EVERYONE was pleading with him to call them off, yet it took 187 minutes to wait him out. Were they THAT afraid of him? I know the best way to make the insurrectionists back off was to hear directly from TFG, but why wait that long? I am shocked that more innocent people weren’t killed. Holy crap, what if we had been under attack from a foreign country and he did nothing b/c it might affect his political standing, just like the management of the Pandemic…. The man is insane. We are doomed… Edited to add we are doomed unless we can outvote the GQP/trump humpers. I know that Trump's cabinet was mostly yes men by the end of his presidency. But why didn't they have the courage to invoke the 25th amendment? What were all of them doing during there insurrection? I can't think of a more appropriate time in history to use the 25th amendment. I know there were some resignations, but too little, too late. And for the most part, those that resigned faded into the background and remained silent. www.nytimes.com/article/trump-resignations.htmlwww.politico.com/news/2022/01/03/trumpworld-jan-6-526291Also, why did we have to wait until books were published or people testified under oath to hear some of these details?Just wanted to follow up on this. The writer expressed the same question really well www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/07/22/pottinger-matthews-witness-jan-6-not-heroes/I don’t want to be uncharitable toward the witnesses who have come before the nation to testify about the events of Jan. 6, 2021. Many have shown genuine courage and patriotism. I think of Cassidy Hutchinson, an idealistic 26-year-old aide who found herself caught between her conscience and the men who were supposed to be her mentors. It took strong character for Hutchinson to tell her story while the superiors she trusted dodged subpoenas. Sign up for a weekly roundup of thought-provoking ideas and debates But I felt far less moved Thursday night as I watched former White House aides Sarah Matthews and Matthew Pottinger, both well-traveled veterans of Republican wars, take their turns as John Dean wannabes. I don’t share Rep. Liz Cheney’s (R-Wyo.) view that Matthews and Pottinger should be long remembered for their “bravery and honor.” What should we remember? That they realized, at the last possible moment, that they were enabling a president who cared nothing for his country and its values? That they suddenly found the spine and rectitude to storm out on jobs they were going to have for only a few more weeks anyway?
What did that cost them, exactly? A couple days of orderly packing? There were plenty of Republicans who declined to serve Donald Trump from the outset of his administration, even though they loved government service. There were others who sacrificed ascendant careers in government and lifelong friendships because they resolved to continue opposing him. There were also a lot of serious Republicans — many of them in military uniforms — who felt it was their duty to serve the country and try to rein in Trump’s worst impulses. I thought they were wrong, but it was a reasonable choice to make. And then there were people like Matthews, who eagerly worked for Trump’s reelection campaign, and who, according to her own testimony Thursday, traveled with him for years to the crazy, Mussolini-like rallies where he mixed conspiratorial fiction with insults. It was interesting to hear Matthews say, almost as an aside, that she knew Trump had the power to stop the riot on Jan. 6 because she had seen firsthand how his followers hung on his every word and would do whatever he asked. The cynicism here is hard to stomach. She well understood that Trump was dangerously manipulating nativist masses for his own selfish ends — but, hey, it was all part of the game, right?Yet here was Matthews at the hearing, rewriting her tarnished résumé in real time, talking about how appalled she was that Trump was “pushing the lie that there was a stolen election” on “one of the darkest days in American history.” Like it wasn’t entirely foreseeable. Like she hadn’t helped Trump plant that lie over the course of many months, mindless of the consequences. Matthews, Pottinger, Judd Deere, Eric Herschmann, Pat Cipollone, Kayleigh McEnany — none of them are really all that different from Josh Hawley, the senator shown fleeing the Capitol after having riled up the rioters with a raised fist. All of them enabled a president who stirred up the worst emotions in American life, who lit the fuse on a crude bomb and then recklessly hurled it into the heart of our democracy. It just took a little longer for things to play out.
And yet, because Matthews and Pottinger also high-tailed it home after the failed coup, the committee repeatedly teed them up for self-righteous preening with questions like: How do you feel, as a former Marine and White House official, about the peaceful transfer of power? (Pottinger, surprise, thinks it’s a good thing.) Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.) praised both witnesses for having “refused to be associated with President Trump’s dereliction of duty.” Cheney called Matthews “an inspiration to American women and to American girls.” Oh, come on. Is that really what Cheney — who took a principled stand against Trump when it was clear she would pay for it with her promising career — is telling her three daughters now? That they should emulate this skilled abettor of lies who suddenly realized on Jan. 6 that maybe Trump wasn’t such a great president after all? That’s certainly not what I’d tell my young daughter, if she weren’t so disgusted by the meanness and futility around our politics that she’d rather watch a test pattern on TV than sit through 10 minutes of these hearings, as important and dramatic as they are. If we have Matthews and Pottinger to thank for airing the truth about Trump’s final days, then we have them to thank for that legacy, too.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 23, 2022 18:08:56 GMT
I know that Trump's cabinet was mostly yes men by the end of his presidency. But why didn't they have the courage to invoke the 25th amendment? What were all of them doing during there insurrection? I can't think of a more appropriate time in history to use the 25th amendment. I know there were some resignations, but too little, too late. And for the most part, those that resigned faded into the background and remained silent. www.nytimes.com/article/trump-resignations.htmlwww.politico.com/news/2022/01/03/trumpworld-jan-6-526291Also, why did we have to wait until books were published or people testified under oath to hear some of these details?Just wanted to follow up on this. The writer asked a related question - are these witnesses really heroes? www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/07/22/pottinger-matthews-witness-jan-6-not-heroes/I don’t want to be uncharitable toward the witnesses who have come before the nation to testify about the events of Jan. 6, 2021. Many have shown genuine courage and patriotism. I think of Cassidy Hutchinson, an idealistic 26-year-old aide who found herself caught between her conscience and the men who were supposed to be her mentors. It took strong character for Hutchinson to tell her story while the superiors she trusted dodged subpoenas. Sign up for a weekly roundup of thought-provoking ideas and debates But I felt far less moved Thursday night as I watched former White House aides Sarah Matthews and Matthew Pottinger, both well-traveled veterans of Republican wars, take their turns as John Dean wannabes. I don’t share Rep. Liz Cheney’s (R-Wyo.) view that Matthews and Pottinger should be long remembered for their “bravery and honor.” What should we remember? That they realized, at the last possible moment, that they were enabling a president who cared nothing for his country and its values? That they suddenly found the spine and rectitude to storm out on jobs they were going to have for only a few more weeks anyway?
What did that cost them, exactly? A couple days of orderly packing? There were plenty of Republicans who declined to serve Donald Trump from the outset of his administration, even though they loved government service. There were others who sacrificed ascendant careers in government and lifelong friendships because they resolved to continue opposing him. There were also a lot of serious Republicans — many of them in military uniforms — who felt it was their duty to serve the country and try to rein in Trump’s worst impulses. I thought they were wrong, but it was a reasonable choice to make. And then there were people like Matthews, who eagerly worked for Trump’s reelection campaign, and who, according to her own testimony Thursday, traveled with him for years to the crazy, Mussolini-like rallies where he mixed conspiratorial fiction with insults. It was interesting to hear Matthews say, almost as an aside, that she knew Trump had the power to stop the riot on Jan. 6 because she had seen firsthand how his followers hung on his every word and would do whatever he asked. The cynicism here is hard to stomach. She well understood that Trump was dangerously manipulating nativist masses for his own selfish ends — but, hey, it was all part of the game, right?Yet here was Matthews at the hearing, rewriting her tarnished résumé in real time, talking about how appalled she was that Trump was “pushing the lie that there was a stolen election” on “one of the darkest days in American history.” Like it wasn’t entirely foreseeable. Like she hadn’t helped Trump plant that lie over the course of many months, mindless of the consequences. Matthews, Pottinger, Judd Deere, Eric Herschmann, Pat Cipollone, Kayleigh McEnany — none of them are really all that different from Josh Hawley, the senator shown fleeing the Capitol after having riled up the rioters with a raised fist. All of them enabled a president who stirred up the worst emotions in American life, who lit the fuse on a crude bomb and then recklessly hurled it into the heart of our democracy. It just took a little longer for things to play out.
And yet, because Matthews and Pottinger also high-tailed it home after the failed coup, the committee repeatedly teed them up for self-righteous preening with questions like: How do you feel, as a former Marine and White House official, about the peaceful transfer of power? (Pottinger, surprise, thinks it’s a good thing.) Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.) praised both witnesses for having “refused to be associated with President Trump’s dereliction of duty.” Cheney called Matthews “an inspiration to American women and to American girls.” Oh, come on. Is that really what Cheney — who took a principled stand against Trump when it was clear she would pay for it with her promising career — is telling her three daughters now? That they should emulate this skilled abettor of lies who suddenly realized on Jan. 6 that maybe Trump wasn’t such a great president after all? That’s certainly not what I’d tell my young daughter, if she weren’t so disgusted by the meanness and futility around our politics that she’d rather watch a test pattern on TV than sit through 10 minutes of these hearings, as important and dramatic as they are. If we have Matthews and Pottinger to thank for airing the truth about Trump’s final days, then we have them to thank for that legacy, too.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 23, 2022 18:11:56 GMT
We have to hope Republicans door get control of the House anytime soon. Because that's exactly what they'll do - seek revenge on the committee and anyone involved with it. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/07/23/steve-bannon-jan-6-tucker-carlson/Bannon attacks Jan. 6 committee on Fox News after Congress contempt conviction But Bannon struck a belligerent tone during his Friday interview with Carlson, and appeared to threaten congressional staffers on the committee with an investigation into their work.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 23, 2022 18:18:38 GMT
Maybe this is why, in part, the hearings seem to have finally broken through and independents at least are starting to see Trump's culpability in Jan 6. www.washingtonpost.com/media/2022/07/22/jan6-hearings-news-cycle-media/Four reasons the Jan. 6 hearings have conquered the news cycle There was no guarantee these hearings would break through the way they have. Here’s what set them apart. 1. Newsworthiness. Each hearing has produced at least one legitimate nugget of actual news, and sometimes more than one. Bettag theorizes that this has made it easier for the broadcast networks to overcome their concerns of looking like a cheering squad for anti-Trump forces.
2. Pace. Although somber and unflashy in tone, the hearings have been characterized by something almost unheard of in this kind of congressional forum: briskness. They move expeditiously from brief opening statements to video or live testimony. There have been no extemporaneous speeches, no tedious delays, no “look at me” displays.
3. A compelling central character. Liz Cheney, with her steely resolve and understated intensity, is hard to look away from, especially when you know the backstory of the committee’s vice chairwoman: her conservative views and voting record, how the Wyoming Republican has been drummed out of her leadership role, and the very real possibility that her political career will end as a result of what she’s doing.
4. “Dumb luck.” That’s how Bettag characterizes the simple fact that the other major news stories of recent months — the heartbreaking spate of deadly mass shootings in Highland Park, Ill., Uvalde, Tex., Buffalo and elsewhere — have not occurred on the same dates as the hearings themselves. (Two were in May, before the hearings began; the Highland Park tragedy was on the Fourth of July.)
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 23, 2022 18:35:32 GMT
Revenge on steroids... According to an Axios deep dive into Donald Trump's plans to enact a massive purge of federal workers and fill their positions with loyalists should he win re-election in 2024, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) is reportedly cheering him on. On Friday, Jonathan Swan reported that a Trump executive order signed in October 2020 before he lost the election in November to Joe Biden that would have allowed him to reclassify up to 50,000 federal workers and deny them job protections they currently enjoy. While President Biden has rescinded the order, Axios reports that close advisors to Trump --with the help of the former president -- would make it happen if he should be re-elected. According to the report, "Trump's closest confidant in Congress, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), is excited about the prospects of mass firings in the second term of a Trump administration. He said in an interview with Axios that he had talked about it with another person close to Trump and that 'the line that we talked about was, "Fire everyone you're allowed to fire. And [then] fire a few people you're not supposed to, so that they have to sue you and you send the message." That's the way to do it.'" The report adds, "Since leaving office, Trump has mused often, publicly and privately, about the prospect of running for the presidency in 2024. He has obsessively followed Republican primary races and wielded his endorsement more prolifically and aggressively than any previous American president." www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-jim-jordan/
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 23, 2022 18:57:46 GMT
Must be hard when your hometown paper editorial board writes another op-ed like this about you.... As the editors were quick to point out, Hawley is now a national "laughingstock" because he has been exposed for the "fleeing coward" he is."After noting that the conservative senator has already taken his lumps on social media after the nationally televised humiliation that has spectators at the committee hearing openly laughing, the board buried him for his oft-stated worries about American "masculinity."A signature Hawley issue is masculinity — as in, how little of it American men seem to have these days. It’s a frequent topic in his speeches and on his podcast, where 'the left-wing attack on manhood' is a dire threat to our society. Regnery Publishing is set to release his book 'Manhood: The Masculine Virtues America Needs' next year. Twitter didn’t see much virile bravado as he ran from the mob," they wrote. "Shame, clearly, is not a motivating factor for any number of Republicans still caught up in Trumpworld. Hawley has never apologized for attempting to reinstall a man who everyone around him knew had lost the election, as witness testimony continues to confirm. Surely the Yale and Stanford grad isn’t gullible enough to believe the craven lies about tampering with voting machines and dead people casting ballots that ooze through social media," they wrote before concluding, "Sen. Josh Hawley might not fear a little mockery of his hasty flight from Capitol marauders. But he might be justified if he’s afraid of what emails or text messages some previously-loyal staffer might be considering turning over to the House committee. Stay tuned to the hearings."www.rawstory.com/josh-hawley-running/
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 23, 2022 20:19:53 GMT
He’s right…
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 23, 2022 20:51:09 GMT
Thompson is right! We will still have a hard fight though.
It must be soon too. The threats are getting worse every day..
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 28, 2022 23:04:56 GMT
Mulvaney met with committee today. Mnuchin supposedly already has. Pompeo working out details.
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 29, 2022 2:14:31 GMT
Of course they are..
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 29, 2022 2:35:41 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 29, 2022 2:39:25 GMT
Chad Wolf has been in meetings for the new former administration... Many have been in fact.. Meadows etc..
Carol Leoning will be on shortly with Lawrence O'Donnell.
NBC is preparing 20 transcripts for DOJ..
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 29, 2022 2:54:04 GMT
Leoning 4 confirmed sources, and emails .
Dept homeland security.. Wolf and Cuccinelli leaders responsible for all... Mr Cuffari person in charge of securing records knew they were gone but never told .
USSS Murray's predecessor's texts etc are also missing.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 29, 2022 3:08:29 GMT
Here it is .. DHS missing J6 texts from Trump officials Chad Wolf and Ken Cuccinelli: report Bob Brigham July 28, 2022 Text messages for former President Donald Trump’s acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf and acting deputy secretary Ken Cuccinelli are missing for a key period leading up to the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, according to four people briefed on the matter and internal emails. This discovery of missing records for the senior-most homeland security officials, which has not been previously reported, increases the volume of potential evidence that has vanished regarding the time around the Capitol attack," Carol Leonnig and Maria Sacchetti reported. Also on Thursday, U.S. Secret Service Director James Murray announced he was delaying his retirement, planned for July 31. The newspaper reported. "The Department of Homeland Security notified the agency’s inspector general in late February that Wolf’'s and Cuccinelli’s texts were lost in a 'reset' of their government phones when they left their jobs in January 2021 in preparation for the new Biden administration, according to an internal record obtained by the Project on Government Oversight and shared with The Washington Post." The Secret Service blamed a "system migration." "The office of the department’s undersecretary of management also told the government watchdog that the text messages for its boss, undersecretary Randolph 'Tex' Alles, the former Secret Service director, were also no longer available due to a previously planned phone reset," the newspaper reported. "The office of Inspector General Joseph V. Cuffari did not press the department leadership at that time to explain why they did not preserve these records, nor seek ways to recover the lost data, according to the four people briefed on the watchdog’s actions. Cuffari also failed to alert Congress to the potential destruction of government records."The report came more than one year after the first public hearing by the House Select Committee Investigating the Jan. 6 Attack on the U.S. Capitol.www.rawstory.com/chad-wolf-2657767279/
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Post by onelasttime on Oct 13, 2022 16:59:49 GMT
I guess today is the last hearing…
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Post by onelasttime on Oct 13, 2022 17:03:17 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Oct 13, 2022 17:28:21 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Oct 13, 2022 17:33:17 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Oct 13, 2022 17:34:03 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Oct 13, 2022 17:36:57 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Oct 13, 2022 17:37:41 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Oct 13, 2022 17:38:48 GMT
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Post by mollycoddle on Oct 13, 2022 17:45:48 GMT
Tom Fitton, one of Trump’s more reliable poodles. 🙄 The opening remarks were great. Well worth listening to.
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Post by onelasttime on Oct 13, 2022 17:56:33 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Oct 13, 2022 17:57:31 GMT
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