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Post by twinks on Jun 24, 2022 20:05:22 GMT
Again, I knew this was going to happen but it feels like the DOJ and the Jan 6th Commission are getting a little too close to former and therefore needed a distraction.
This makes voting even more important than it ever was. That is if the results aren’t challenged to death.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 24, 2022 20:05:55 GMT
It gets even better…. Look at what Thomas wants to go after next. What the ever loving hell is happening? Seems he is choosing 3/5ths for himself. Oh wait ...do he and Ginni do S & M ?? ??
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 24, 2022 20:11:23 GMT
Patients will no longer be able to use IVF..
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Post by aj2hall on Jun 24, 2022 20:12:25 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 24, 2022 20:14:06 GMT
So busy quoting the Constitution....
Seems Thomas is seeking to return to 3/5ths...
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jun 24, 2022 20:19:52 GMT
Well since next on the chopping block may be easy to obtain contraceptives, if men don't wish to have umpteen kids, then yep, they better go line up for those vasectomies. Mention vasectomy in a room full of men and watch them unconsciously cross their legs. Seriously. Women go through any number of indignities just in the course of normal medical maintenance, but a penis is sacred. So, instead, we'll just see more murders of women who become inconveniently pregnant by the men who don't want to be saddled with the responsibility. I only wish I were being facetious. FYI the penis isn't involved in a vasectomy whatsoever. And pretty much every single man I know over 40 has had one. Maybe things are different elsewhere, but here you have a kid or 2/3 and then the husband gets a vasectomy.
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Post by aj2hall on Jun 24, 2022 20:24:40 GMT
Someone asked about this. Hopefully, it's not behind a paywall. www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/us/abortion-laws-roe-v-wade.htmlAbortion is now banned in at least nine states, with trigger bans in several more set to take effect in the coming days. Laws in eight states took effect on Friday after the Supreme Court’s decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization. Oklahoma passed a law in May prohibiting nearly all abortions.
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Post by refugeepea on Jun 24, 2022 20:29:16 GMT
We must start at the local level. Your state Congress is who voted in bills. If you have GQP leaders it won't pass.. Another alternative is to advocate to have Pro-choice on the ballot. Must make the point for PRO-CHOICE not pro-abortion Unless you live in Utah, where the legislature can call a special session and strike down propositions that pass.
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Post by papersilly on Jun 24, 2022 20:32:25 GMT
Have emailed my Senators, the Speaker and the President to voice my opinion on this.
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Post by aj2hall on Jun 24, 2022 20:36:20 GMT
We must start at the local level. Your state Congress is who voted in bills. If you have GQP leaders it won't pass.. Another alternative is to advocate to have Pro-choice on the ballot. Must make the point for PRO-CHOICE not pro-abortion Unless you live in Utah, where the legislature can call a special session and strike down propositions that pass. The Missouri state legislature overrode a proposition approved by the voters, too, on expanding Medicaid.
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Post by Gem Girl on Jun 24, 2022 20:36:33 GMT
Mention vasectomy in a room full of men and watch them unconsciously cross their legs. Seriously. Women go through any number of indignities just in the course of normal medical maintenance, but a penis is sacred. So, instead, we'll just see more murders of women who become inconveniently pregnant by the men who don't want to be saddled with the responsibility. I only wish I were being facetious. FYI the penis isn't involved in a vasectomy whatsoever. And pretty much every single man I know over 40 has had one. Maybe things are different elsewhere, but here you have a kid or 2/3 and then the husband gets a vasectomy. I'm aware of the specifics of the procedure, thank you. I stand by my point regarding how men react to it. It is possible that it may be a regionally specific reaction, as I haven't broached this across the entire country or world.
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Post by lizacreates on Jun 24, 2022 21:05:46 GMT
With Roe Overturned, 84 Elected Prosecutors Commit to Not Prosecute AbortionsExcerpt from Joint Statement: We are a group of elected prosecutors representing communities across every region of the country. Over the past few years, we have watched with increasing concern as the constitutional right to abortion has been threatened and eroded. Now, the Supreme Court’s decision to end the federally protected constitutional right to abortion first established five decades ago in Roe v. Wade — a right that three generations of Americans have come of age relying upon — means that abortions will immediately or soon be banned, and potentially criminalized, in at least half of our nation’s states. As elected prosecutors, ministers of justice, and leaders in our communities, we cannot stand by and allow members of our community to live in fear of the ramifications of this deeply troubling decision. Not all of us agree on a personal or moral level on the issue of abortion. But we stand together in our firm belief that prosecutors have a responsibility to refrain from using limited criminal legal system resources to criminalize personal medical decisions. As such, we decline to use our offices’ resources to criminalize reproductive health decisions and commit to exercise our well-settled discretion and refrain from prosecuting those who seek, provide, or support abortions. As elected prosecutors, when we stand in court, we have the privilege and obligation to represent “the people.” All members of our communities are our clients – they elected us to represent them and we are bound to fight for them as we carry out our obligation to pursue justice. Our legislatures may decide to criminalize personal healthcare decisions, but we remain obligated to prosecute only those cases that serve the interests of justice and the people. Criminalizing and prosecuting individuals who seek or provide abortion care makes a mockery of justice; prosecutors should not be part of that.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 24, 2022 21:13:09 GMT
The problem is the states that are far beyond the norms... They go after the innocent who have suffered enough from a natural spontaneous abortion.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 24, 2022 21:25:44 GMT
Short bit.... Fox News host Bret Baier told Graham that Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) had expressed outrage at Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh because he testified that he would not likely overturn Roe v. Wade. *** Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) on Sunday lashed out at senators complaining about Supreme Court justices who reportedly voted to overturn abortion rights despite suggesting they wouldn't in Senate confirmation hearings. www.rawstory.com/lindsey-graham-abortion/
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Post by pilcas on Jun 24, 2022 22:42:22 GMT
Mention vasectomy in a room full of men and watch them unconsciously cross their legs. Seriously. Women go through any number of indignities just in the course of normal medical maintenance, but a penis is sacred. So, instead, we'll just see more murders of women who become inconveniently pregnant by the men who don't want to be saddled with the responsibility. I only wish I were being facetious. FYI the penis isn't involved in a vasectomy whatsoever. And pretty much every single man I know over 40 has had one. Maybe things are different elsewhere, but here you have a kid or 2/3 and then the husband gets a vasectomy. Where do you live?
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Post by refugeepea on Jun 24, 2022 22:48:27 GMT
FYI the penis isn't involved in a vasectomy whatsoever. And pretty much every single man I know over 40 has had one. Maybe things are different elsewhere, but here you have a kid or 2/3 and then the husband gets a vasectomy. How does this come up in conversation that you would know every single man over the age of 40 in your life has had a vasectomy?
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 24, 2022 23:13:12 GMT
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Post by pinklady on Jun 24, 2022 23:18:25 GMT
"The womb is now, in Oklahoma, the safest place for a child to be"
He actually said it. Not sure he realized how true this actually is.
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Post by AllieC on Jun 24, 2022 23:29:46 GMT
Waking up in Australia to this news. I’m enraged for women in the US.
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Post by gorgeouskid on Jun 24, 2022 23:35:28 GMT
It gets even better…. Look at what Thomas wants to go after next. Yeah, but not interracial marriage (married to a White woman). Convenient.
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Post by ajsweetpea on Jun 24, 2022 23:39:23 GMT
The real head scratcher to me in all this… is I have seen friends who I know vote Republican and they are posting how outraged they are that Roe v Wade was overturned. And I’m like really??? It is the way you guys voted that caused this! There’s like some kind of disconnect going on here.
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 25, 2022 0:19:15 GMT
From the dissent of the decision…
“Whatever the exact scope of the coming laws, one result of today’s decision is certain: the curtailment of women’s rights, and of their status as free and equal citizens. Yes- terday, the Constitution guaranteed that a woman con- fronted with an unplanned pregnancy could (within reason- able limits) make her own decision about whether to bear a child, with all the life-transforming consequences that act involves. And in thus safeguarding each woman’s reproduc- tive freedom, the Constitution also protected “[t]he ability of women to participate equally in [this Nation’s] economic and social life.” Casey, 505 U. S., at 856. But no longer. As of today, this Court holds, a State can always force a woman to give birth, prohibiting even the earliest abortions. A State can thus transform what, when freely undertaken, is a wonder into what, when forced, may be a nightmare. Some women, especially women of means, will find ways around the State’s assertion of power. Others—those with- out money or childcare or the ability to take time off from work—will not be so fortunate. Maybe they will try an un- safe method of abortion, and come to physical harm, or even die. Maybe they will undergo pregnancy and have a child, but at significant personal or familial cost. At the least, they will incur the cost of losing control of their lives. The Constitution will, today’s majority holds, provide no shield, despite its guarantees of liberty and equality for all.”
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 25, 2022 0:30:00 GMT
Good question…
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Post by mollycoddle on Jun 25, 2022 0:45:46 GMT
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Post by epeanymous on Jun 25, 2022 1:00:59 GMT
"The womb is now, in Oklahoma, the safest place for a child to be" He actually said it. Not sure he realized how true this actually is. Uh, given the percentage of pregnancies that end in miscarriage and the rate of murder against pregnant women, that seems like a pretty weird statement even on its own terms!
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Post by Merge on Jun 25, 2022 1:20:17 GMT
Eaaarrrrrrly 70s. I was born a few days after the Roe decision.
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Post by luckyjune on Jun 25, 2022 1:41:08 GMT
Fuckers. Every last one of them.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jun 25, 2022 1:44:38 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 25, 2022 1:45:00 GMT
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Post by pinklady on Jun 25, 2022 1:48:14 GMT
Frankly, I blame the Democrats. There has been plenty of time to fight dirty just like the republicans but they didn't and this is where we are now. They actually showed us who they were, out in the open, in 2008 and Dems did nothing. I'll still vote blue but if the Dems had played at the level of republicans, we would not be where we are. Flame away Lookie here, another example.
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