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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 26, 2022 2:22:14 GMT
I caught a blurb on TV earlier. A doctor made a quick comment about what might happen if he or someone in the lab dropped a petri dish with an embryo...
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Post by sideways on Jun 26, 2022 2:59:20 GMT
How about, "let's just agree to disagree...we can differ in our opinions and still remain friends and loving family"? You’ve got to be fucking kidding me. Spoken like someone who isn’t losing damn thing… and is privileged enough that her daughters aren’t either. You’re a trumper. What the fuck are you even doing here? You’re part of the reason that people with uteruses will die.
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Post by prapea on Jun 26, 2022 4:16:53 GMT
Wow this thread is so painful for anyone living reality of infertility- you think adoption is easy - there’s a reason most adoptions are international- one can support womens right to choose and at the same time say wtf - there’s a whole lot of wtf here - but I get it you’re focused on worst case scenario for you or your kid - it’s alright - your tragedy is our miracle Wut I can't tell quite what you're trying to say. It's the job of the fertile to provide babies for the infertile? It's this literally an argument being made here? An actual Handmaid's Tale? Is this tongue in cheek or serious? Thank you. I was trying to wrap my head around what the pea was saying and after reading it three times, I still don’t get it. If it is what I think she is saying then I got nothing but i don’t care about your fertility issues. My body, my choice
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pinklady
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Post by pinklady on Jun 26, 2022 4:40:58 GMT
For fucks sake Darcy Collins your infertility has zero relevance to me or anyone else choosing to have an abortion. Get the fuck over yourself! You are constantly a gigantic asshole and get away with it. And to boot you are a pussy poster who deletes her threads to appear they never happened. I’m glad Zee has them saved for posterity. Next time you want to call me out look in the fucking mirror.
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used2scrap
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Post by used2scrap on Jun 26, 2022 6:48:21 GMT
Yeah my rape and pregnancy and abortion wasn’t your fucking miracle.
I just can’t even.
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used2scrap
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Post by used2scrap on Jun 26, 2022 6:49:06 GMT
Wow this thread is so painful for anyone living reality of infertility- you think adoption is easy - there’s a reason most adoptions are international- one can support womens right to choose and at the same time say wtf - there’s a whole lot of wtf here - but I get it you’re focused on worst case scenario for you or your kid - it’s alright - your tragedy is our miracle Wut I can't tell quite what you're trying to say. It's the job of the fertile to provide babies for the infertile? It's this literally an argument being made here? An actual Handmaid's Tale? Is this tongue in cheek or serious? The domestic supply of infants apparently.
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Post by gar on Jun 26, 2022 7:28:34 GMT
Yeah my rape and pregnancy and abortion wasn’t your fucking miracle. I just can’t even. I'm so sorry
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casii
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Post by casii on Jun 26, 2022 8:04:02 GMT
How about, "let's just agree to disagree...we can differ in our opinions and still remain friends and loving family"? Unfortunately a large majority of family are pretty vicious in their prolife zealotry and fully believe that those who are pro choice are the epitome of evil. They have little interest in being loving as it interferes with the need to judge and control. After all, women are to be silent and submissive according to their interpretation. If we agreed to disagree, Roe v Wade would not have been overturned. Simple as that. Now that the dog has caught the car, the zealots will need another bogeyman to run for office on. CRT and Trans hate seem to be topping the list. .
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Post by miominmio on Jun 26, 2022 8:32:16 GMT
Wow this thread is so painful for anyone living reality of infertility- you think adoption is easy - there’s a reason most adoptions are international- one can support womens right to choose and at the same time say wtf - there’s a whole lot of wtf here - but I get it you’re focused on worst case scenario for you or your kid - it’s alright - your tragedy is our miracle No female is obligated to provide babies for the infertile.
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Post by AussieMeg on Jun 26, 2022 10:35:44 GMT
used2scrap 🥰 I'm so sorry. This must be so triggering for you, and others who have been in your situation.
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Post by mikklynn on Jun 26, 2022 10:40:16 GMT
I’d be willing to bet that those same people were the ‘my body, my choice’ crowd when everyone was asking them to wear a face mask to prevent the spread of Covid. I love that comment.
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Post by elaine on Jun 26, 2022 10:43:34 GMT
Yeah my rape and pregnancy and abortion wasn’t your fucking miracle. I just can’t even. Words can’t express how sorry I am. 🙁
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Post by compeateropeator on Jun 26, 2022 10:44:46 GMT
I think I read the intent of your post wrong and I apologize. If you'd like me to delete my first post, I will. I get that this is a hot button issue always, but more so right now. Don't worry about it freecharlie - I'm just frustrated - I get it - I actually 100% support abortion rights - but seriously people are so damn clueless in their posts - i have been schooled - you all don't care - i get it - but will never i apparently infertility is just something we'll ignore - hell its 20% of people so no one cares 2 I am sorry for your hurt. I understand where you are coming from but many threads and post here are hot topics or topics that can cause people pain when they read them. It is the nature of the beast when you talk about everything and conversations are not kept to one particular subject. Even the most innocuous conversation points can cause people pain. I try to phrase things in a way that doesn’t comes across as harsh, but as someone who is long winded and writing is not my best subject (😄I admit it)…I feel I often fail. As someone who never found that right person to marry, sometimes the wedding and those types of threads are painful. As someone who has alopecia, sometimes all the hair threads, going bald comments, etc are painful. I don’t think people are purposely hurting me or not thinking about my feelings with comments that I feel are flippant, obtuse, shitty, or whatever my thought is. I know that they have no idea that I am even here, who I am, what affects me, and (truthfully) it doesn’t and shouldn’t matter. I get much more out of all of the conversations, all of the different personalities, and all of the different perspectives presented. Sorry, this long winded post is just to try and explain why I think people are “so damn clueless” when posting…they are not trying or meaning to be. Of course it wouldn’t be real life if there also weren’t always some exceptions. 😉
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2022 11:23:07 GMT
Yeah my rape and pregnancy and abortion wasn’t your fucking miracle. I just can’t even. Sending you a big (((hugs))) can't imagine what this latest decision does for you and others that have been through such a trauma.
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pyccku
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Post by pyccku on Jun 26, 2022 11:47:19 GMT
Um, my married niece who is an RN got pregnant twice due to failure of two different types of birth control. I bet her husband would beg to differ on that! She wanted him to get snipped after kid #2 because she learned she had a potentially life threatening blood clotting disorder and had to inject herself with blood thinners while she was pregnant. He didn’t, she got pregnant a third time and he finally went in to have it done when she told him she wasn’t having sex with him anymore until he could prove he was shooting blanks. It’s a good thing he did too because now they live in one of those red states with trigger laws where if she did get pregnant again she wouldn’t have any choice in the matter at all, even though being pregnant would be a huge risk to her health. This is just bullshit and "anectdotal" bulshit that makes me insane - bcp have a 99% effective rate - if she wants to be extra careful cause she cant actually take them regularly which is the typical issue - he can wrap up - and no one is fucking getting pregnant taking bc pills when their partner is also using condoms whatever theyre posting on fb If you’d like to meet my daughter, you’ll know someone who was born despite me being on bcp AND using condoms. It happens. oddly enough, my other two were conceived after using infertility drugs. I went from being infertile to super fertile in the space of five years. I remember the resentment I felt for women who could get pregnant and didn’t want to be. Eventually I realized that while it wasn’t fair and it sucked, their pregnancies had nothing to do with my infertility. We were both in situations we didn’t want to be in.
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Dalai Mama
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Post by Dalai Mama on Jun 26, 2022 12:37:34 GMT
I just give them the reproductive version of the Trolley Problem - A building is burning to the ground. In one room is a container of 100 frozen embryos. In another is a live, breathing baby. You can only save one. Choose.
Embryos=/=babies
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Post by Merge on Jun 26, 2022 14:39:21 GMT
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luckyjune
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Post by luckyjune on Jun 26, 2022 14:54:20 GMT
How about, "let's just agree to disagree...we can differ in our opinions and still remain friends and loving family"? "Let's agree to disagree" works great when talking about the best ice cream flavor or who should win an Academy Award. When it becomes about human rights? Absolutely not. And to not understand the difference? I'm not sure what to do with that.
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Post by elaine on Jun 26, 2022 15:14:25 GMT
How about, "let's just agree to disagree...we can differ in our opinions and still remain friends and loving family"? "Let's agree to disagree" works great when talking about the best ice cream flavor or who should win an Academy Award. When it becomes about human rights? Absolutely not. And to not understand the difference? I'm not sure what to do with that. This sums it up perfectly for me.
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Post by sideways on Jun 26, 2022 15:46:21 GMT
"Let's agree to disagree" works great when talking about the best ice cream flavor or who should win an Academy Award. When it becomes about human rights? Absolutely not. And to not understand the difference? I'm not sure what to do with that. This sums it up perfectly for me. Yup. Me too. Does it have a “let them eat cake” ring to anyone else? I mean, so fucking clueless and tone-deaf.
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Post by peano on Jun 26, 2022 17:54:42 GMT
Um, my married niece who is an RN got pregnant twice due to failure of two different types of birth control. I bet her husband would beg to differ on that! She wanted him to get snipped after kid #2 because she learned she had a potentially life threatening blood clotting disorder and had to inject herself with blood thinners while she was pregnant. He didn’t, she got pregnant a third time and he finally went in to have it done when she told him she wasn’t having sex with him anymore until he could prove he was shooting blanks. It’s a good thing he did too because now they live in one of those red states with trigger laws where if she did get pregnant again she wouldn’t have any choice in the matter at all, even though being pregnant would be a huge risk to her health. This is just bullshit and "anectdotal" bulshit that makes me insane - bcp have a 99% effective rate - if she wants to be extra careful cause she cant actually take them regularly which is the typical issue - he can wrap up - and no one is fucking getting pregnant taking bc pills when their partner is also using condoms whatever theyre posting on fb Wow. I guess from previous posts this is a hot issue for you, but I was a 19-year-old college student who tried BC pills, but they made me deeply depressed. I tried another method, which failed. Maybe it was just percentages, maybe human error that comes from trying something new and unfamiliar. At any rate, would you expect your 19-year-old daughter to just suck it up. I am deeply grateful that at least I had options.
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Post by lucyg on Jun 26, 2022 19:48:36 GMT
How about, "let's just agree to disagree...we can differ in our opinions and still remain friends and loving family"? "Let's agree to disagree" works great when talking about the best ice cream flavor or who should win an Academy Award. When it becomes about human rights? Absolutely not. And to not understand the difference? I'm not sure what to do with that. Under the circumstances, I think what keriwest really means is “we won, so sit down and shut up.” No thank you, Keri.
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