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Post by chances on Jul 11, 2022 23:26:08 GMT
I don't like the idea of anyone (especially the government) having my finger prints. The only time I had to give them was in college as a Big Brother/Big Sister volunteer and I almost left the program bc of it.
I know there are lots of conveniences such as finger prints and face recognition to open your phone. I am considering signing up for TSA Pre Check but every time I read the requirements, I simply decide to get to the airport early. However, if any agency really wants my finger prints, I'm sure they can get them. I don't use Siri/Alexa bc I hate giving permission for my microphone to be on, but I already know some companies are able to access my microphone bc of the types of targeted ads I get. Sometimes I think, they're taking it anyway, I may as well benefit and be able to turn on my playlist in the car and get through security more quickly.
Who or what has your finger prints or face recognition or some other thing I don't even know about? Do you try to keep anything private or is that not a concern for you?
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Post by librarylady on Jul 11, 2022 23:30:39 GMT
I have given up on thinking anyone has much privacy anymore. If you have google maps on your smart phone, it will reveal everywhere you have been, should authorities need to know. IMO the smart phone is the biggest device that "keeps tabs on us."
A couple of agencies have my fingerprints so that I could pass their background checks.
I have the TSA pre check.
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Post by Ryann on Jul 11, 2022 23:36:33 GMT
If you use a smart phone, your information is known. If you’ve given your information to pretty much any national company, your information is known.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jul 11, 2022 23:38:27 GMT
There is no point in me worrying about those things. I was in the military and had a TS/SCI clearance. Same for DH. The government already knows everything it needs to about me. In addition, my information was in a data breach when I worked for OPM-SANG as a civilian. I’m also licensed at work, which requires fingerprints every 6 years and background check almost as painful as my clearance.
I’m always surprised when people are unaware of the information that is public record like addresses, phone numbers, how much you paid for your house, how much your property taxes are, etc. Just spokeo yourself, you’ll be surprised how much information is already online for free.
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Post by chitchatgirl on Jul 11, 2022 23:39:06 GMT
I have had to have my fingerprint scanned when coming back into the country from international travel.
If the government had gotten in front of the data privacy issue and enacted legislation back in the beginnings of the internet, it might be somewhat different but just using the internet or your phone they ready have tons of info on you. But there’s so much info out there that companies and by extension the government know more about you than you would want. There was a John Oliver episode this season about it.
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Post by katybee on Jul 11, 2022 23:56:11 GMT
I’ve been fingerprinted MULTIPLE times for background checks. 🤷🏼♀️
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Post by pjaye on Jul 11, 2022 23:58:54 GMT
it's not a concern for me.
No-one is looking for me or coming after me for anything.
I live an honest life, I'm not involved in crime or drugs or anything else illegal.
I willingly submitted my DNA and I genuinely don't care if it's ever used for anything...I either won't know about it or I'll be long dead anyway & I have no children who'll need to worry about it either.
I have police checks & working with children checks as a part of my job so that's another department that has all of my details.
I don't like the tracking and the constant advertising I get from online activities, but apart from that annoyance, I honestly don't care about the rest of it.
I'm not going to live my life worrying about stuff like this.
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on Jul 12, 2022 0:08:25 GMT
There is no point in me worrying about those things. I was in the military and had a TS/SCI clearance. Same for DH. The government already knows everything it needs to about me. In addition, my information was in a data breach when I worked for OPM-SANG as a civilian. I’m also licensed at work, which requires fingerprints every 6 years and background check almost as painful as my clearance. I’m always surprised when people are unaware of the information that is public record like addresses, phone numbers, how much you paid for your house, how much your property taxes are, etc. Just spokeo yourself, you’ll be surprised how much information is already online for free. just curious, why do you have to update fingerprints every 6 years? |
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Post by chances on Jul 12, 2022 0:39:09 GMT
There is no point in me worrying about those things. I was in the military and had a TS/SCI clearance. Same for DH. The government already knows everything it needs to about me. In addition, my information was in a data breach when I worked for OPM-SANG as a civilian. I’m also licensed at work, which requires fingerprints every 6 years and background check almost as painful as my clearance. I’m always surprised when people are unaware of the information that is public record like addresses, phone numbers, how much you paid for your house, how much your property taxes are, etc. Just spokeo yourself, you’ll be surprised how much information is already online for free. I was shocked at how much personal information can be purchased about me. Current address, telephone number, and the names of my parents and siblings and their addresses. Very scary. Any angry person can do what they want. |
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Post by chances on Jul 12, 2022 0:40:39 GMT
If you use a smart phone, your information is known. If you’ve given your information to pretty much any national company, your information is known. I know a lot is out there but I think less biological info like finger prints, face shape, genetics. |
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Post by natscraps on Jul 12, 2022 0:40:58 GMT
There is no point in me worrying about those things. I was in the military and had a TS/SCI clearance. Same for DH. The government already knows everything it needs to about me. In addition, my information was in a data breach when I worked for OPM-SANG as a civilian. I’m also licensed at work, which requires fingerprints every 6 years and background check almost as painful as my clearance. I’m always surprised when people are unaware of the information that is public record like addresses, phone numbers, how much you paid for your house, how much your property taxes are, etc. Just spokeo yourself, you’ll be surprised how much information is already online for free. just curious, why do you have to update fingerprints every 6 years? Working with children in the state of Ohio it’s at least every 5. |
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Post by bc2ca on Jul 12, 2022 0:52:40 GMT
As part of our visa process, followed by Permanent Resident application and then citizenship, we have all been finger-printed, completed biometric scans and had background/criminal record checks run a few times.
I also had to go through the process to volunteer for kids sports and as a CASA.
As a parent, I take comfort in knowing others working with my kids had similar screening.
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on Jul 12, 2022 1:02:49 GMT
just curious, why do you have to update fingerprints every 6 years? Working with children in the state of Ohio it’s at least every 5. In WA we have to do a background check every few years, too. I was more curious about fingerprints since they don’t change (or maybe I’m wrong about that). |
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Post by AussieMeg on Jul 12, 2022 1:29:33 GMT
I have no concerns about any of that stuff. I am all about the convenience, so I use fingerprint and face recognition technology on my phone and MacBook. I use Siri all the time. I don't even mind tracking and targeted advertising, I also joined up to the My Health program through my MyGov account, so that my medical records are available to whoever needs them.
Now if I ever decide to convert to a life of crime I might regret my decisions, but for now it's all good.
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Post by AussieMeg on Jul 12, 2022 1:30:53 GMT
just curious, why do you have to update fingerprints every 6 years? Working with children in the state of Ohio it’s at least every 5. I guess her question is, why would anyone need to do it every 6 years or 5 years. It's not like fingerprints can change. |
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Post by cadoodlebug on Jul 12, 2022 1:33:22 GMT
I was a banker in the 70's so they took my fingerprints. I was goofing off and, in the space that asks for aliases, I wrote Doodlebug. And forgot to erase it before I turned it in.  |
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Post by Zee on Jul 12, 2022 2:16:14 GMT
The state already has my prints for my license and I have no expectations of privacy while on my phone. I'm pretty boring as far as what I do online (ok, in private too, lol).
I won't do a DNA test though. I draw the line there. I did do a genetic workup for my cancer but I chose the anonymous information sharing option (though that could be breached I suppose) to help with future research.
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Post by epeanymous on Jul 12, 2022 2:39:21 GMT
I had to give my fingerprints for the bar, so that ship sailed.
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Post by tinydogmafia on Jul 12, 2022 2:50:51 GMT
I have to have a level 3 background check every two years to work in a facility in my state. This has always included fingerprints, and now includes a retina scan.
If I want to work in my profession, it's part of my job. I have nothing to hide.
I'm also recorded on camera around every corner at work. Some hospitals also have tracking devices in ID badges and can locate you at all times while there. I'm not a fan of that, and would not love the idea of my person being tracked while working. But I also understand the need to protect patients and their medical records, and the prevention of drugs or supplies walking out the door.
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Post by tracylynn on Jul 12, 2022 3:16:22 GMT
Honestly, I've had a cell phone for 20+ years, a smart phone for almost 15 years. "They" know anything they need to know about me.
My home isn't 100% smart, but what I have, I love. If someone at Amazon is listening in to me, they'll be awful bored.
I have TSA pre check and I have Nexus/Global Entry as well (live in a border town so it makes things way easier) which requires an eye scan.
I have not done a DNA check. And I can't forsee myself doing one.
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Post by pantsonfire on Jul 12, 2022 3:29:21 GMT
I gave my finger prints to the state when I got a DL. Dd did the same for her state ID. Also had to to volunteer at a Children's Hospital for Child Life.
I don't see the big deal about giving finger prints to agencies when needed.
My DNA is in several countries due to genetic testing. Again, it was what needed to be done.
I don't fret about Big Brother or my DNA or finger prints being out in the big bad world.
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Post by milocat on Jul 12, 2022 3:55:29 GMT
No one has my fingerprints or face recognition. I've never had to give my fingerprints for anything, I have had a basic background check done. I don't use finger or face on my phone, I don't even have a password on my phone. I work from home and am always home. If I wanted TSA pre check I'd have no problem giving them that info.
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Post by Zee on Jul 12, 2022 4:38:04 GMT
I have to have a level 3 background check every two years to work in a facility in my state. This has always included fingerprints, and now includes a retina scan. If I want to work in my profession, it's part of my job. I have nothing to hide. I'm also recorded on camera around every corner at work. Some hospitals also have tracking devices in ID badges and can locate you at all times while there. I'm not a fan of that, and would not love the idea of my person being tracked while working. But I also understand the need to protect patients and their medical records, and the prevention of drugs or supplies walking out the door. We don't have those trackers here but we had them where I used to work and they actually were no big deal. We could easily find each other on the floor. When you leave the floor, you don't show up. So we could see what room Susan is in without having to call her phone. It's not really any more invasive than an ID badge showing you entering the med room. |
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Post by chances on Jul 12, 2022 5:05:49 GMT
The state already has my prints for my license and I have no expectations of privacy while on my phone. I'm pretty boring as far as what I do online (ok, in private too, lol). I won't do a DNA test though. I draw the line there. I did do a genetic workup for my cancer but I chose the anonymous information sharing option (though that could be breached I suppose) to help with future research. I didn’t realize there was an anonymous option. Me and a close family both have epilepsy with a few oddities. My neurologist suggested genetic testing of two specific genes but was very clear there are no guarantees about how that information may be used in the future by insurance companies or others. It was a slim chance of affecting my treatment so I decided against, but maybe I should ask more questions. |
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Post by chances on Jul 12, 2022 5:10:34 GMT
I think it’s odd that many of you keep talking about not committing crimes or being boring. Since when does doing something wrong have anything to do with the state targeting those it sees as enemies? Neutral statements now may be seen as a threat to those in power later.
I’m just not sure if avoiding the technology makes any difference.
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Post by pjaye on Jul 12, 2022 5:20:27 GMT
Since when does doing something wrong have anything to do with the state targeting those it sees as enemies? Because it means that I'm not an anyone's radar for them to start thinking of me as " the enemy" for anything. That's tinfoil hat stuff. I live in Australia, not China or North Korea. |
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Post by Zee on Jul 12, 2022 5:47:58 GMT
The state already has my prints for my license and I have no expectations of privacy while on my phone. I'm pretty boring as far as what I do online (ok, in private too, lol). I won't do a DNA test though. I draw the line there. I did do a genetic workup for my cancer but I chose the anonymous information sharing option (though that could be breached I suppose) to help with future research. I didn’t realize there was an anonymous option. Me and a close family both have epilepsy with a few oddities. My neurologist suggested genetic testing of two specific genes but was very clear there are no guarantees about how that information may be used in the future by insurance companies or others. It was a slim chance of affecting my treatment so I decided against, but maybe I should ask more questions. I met with a genetic counselor and I was given the option of not sharing, sharing anonymously, or sharing openly. I chose anonymous just because of the thought that my data might be useful to someone in the future. It goes into some database and I agreed knowing it could possibly be shared if there was a breach, but it supposedly doesn't have my name or DOB attached, just my sex and age and whatever else they used. Ethnicity, that kind of thing. |
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Post by Zee on Jul 12, 2022 5:53:24 GMT
I think it’s odd that many of you keep talking about not committing crimes or being boring. Since when does doing something wrong have anything to do with the state targeting those it sees as enemies? Neutral statements now may be seen as a threat to those in power later. I’m just not sure if avoiding the technology makes any difference. Well, I was just being honest. My life apart from work IS rather boring. I hope whoever monitors my activity likes nail polish and cat pics and nurse memes and watching Scandinoir and Housewives, lol. I would hate to have to watch me sleep and eat and go to the gym or walk or whatever and then take off for work day after day. I like it that way though, I get enough excitement 40+ hours a week. 🙂 (Yes i know they're harvesting my data and not physically watching me, but i really don't care, I like targeted advertising!) |
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Post by sueg on Jul 12, 2022 6:22:42 GMT
I have a passport and a residency visa in another country. I have held drivers licences in 3 different jurisdictions - 2 states in my home country and where I live now. I've had police checks done - teacher/child care - in both my home country and my country of residence. I travel internationally regularly. Even without my phone, my face and fingerprints are everywhere. I think you would almost have to be a hermit for this nor to be the case these days.
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Post by Skellinton on Jul 12, 2022 8:55:26 GMT
Working with children in the state of Ohio it’s at least every 5. In WA we have to do a background check every few years, too. I was more curious about fingerprints since they don’t change (or maybe I’m wrong about that). Same with Oregon. I can't remember if it is 2 or 3, it was changing around the time COVID hit. I don't understand why we have to be fongerprinted repeatedly either, but I need to for work, so I do it. |
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