Gennifer
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Post by Gennifer on Jul 17, 2022 0:47:52 GMT
I say this every time we have a thread like this: Those of you who don’t tip, ever, are definitely remembered by the restaurant. I can guaran-damn-tee you are getting some “special” additions to your food. myshelly, aren’t you the one who has your family take off their clothes outside when they’ve been to a hospital? I would think you’d be a wee bit more concerned about what’s going into your food, and therefore your body, since you’re such a germaphobe about your skin.
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Post by teddyw on Jul 17, 2022 1:03:20 GMT
We always tip for carryout. 20%. I suspect they’re all still struggling. If it’s a holiday we tip even more and I make sure it’s cash for that person.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2022 1:03:23 GMT
We do. Usually 10%.
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Post by myshelly on Jul 17, 2022 1:06:17 GMT
I say this every time we have a thread like this: Those of you who don’t tip, ever, are definitely remembered by the restaurant. I can guaran-damn-tee you are getting some “special” additions to your food. myshelly, aren’t you the one who has your family take off their clothes outside when they’ve been to a hospital? I would think you’d be a wee bit more concerned about what’s going into your food, and therefore your body, since you’re such a germaphobe about your skin. Meh, we don’t get takeout enough to be remembered at any one restaurant. I actually really hate takeout because I think you get screwed over with smaller portions and having to pay for all kinds of things you don’t have to pay for in the restaurant. We only get takeout when we’re sick.
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Post by kate on Jul 17, 2022 1:24:55 GMT
I don't order carryout very often at all - I got a pizza recently, and I did leave a couple of bucks in the jar.
For delivery, I tip a full 20%.
I never started tipping at Starbucks; I've been patronizing the one near my job for over 15 years - long before they had tip jars (virtual or physical). Now y'all are making me rethink that! Honestly, though, I'm not there as regularly anymore - it's gotten so expensive already... I will probably just go there less often, rather than raise the cost of my (tall, dark roast, no, I don't need room for milk, thanks) coffee by another dollar.
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Post by pantsonfire on Jul 17, 2022 1:29:50 GMT
I say this every time we have a thread like this: Those of you who don’t tip, ever, are definitely remembered by the restaurant. I can guaran-damn-tee you are getting some “special” additions to your food. myshelly, aren’t you the one who has your family take off their clothes outside when they’ve been to a hospital? I would think you’d be a wee bit more concerned about what’s going into your food, and therefore your body, since you’re such a germaphobe about your skin. Um. Ok. Sure. I highly doubt that happens IRL. This isn't 'Waiting.' And if a restaurant wants to play stupid games than they can win stupid prizes with fines or closure.
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Post by MalleyCat on Jul 17, 2022 1:49:38 GMT
My daughter works at Olive Garden as a "to go specialist". They get the orders together along with utensils, sides, dressing, bread, etc. and they deliver the order to your car. she usually gets tips and has been working there for about a year and a half.
I have noticed that a lot of businesses where you order at the counter, have a "tip" amount come up on the screen when you are paying. I usually tip a smaller amount in that case.
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Post by MalleyCat on Jul 17, 2022 1:56:49 GMT
If I go in, I dont generally tip. Those employees who took your order, boxed it up, and got everything ready for you are still only making $2.13/hr (amount may vary by state) and getting taxed on their sales, ie: your food. I always tip for to-go at restaurants. I usually over tip anywhere I go. Having worked in the service industry and having a kid who is in the industry tends to open your eyes to what the workers go through. How would we know how much a person is making? My daughter make a little over minimum wage $15 or something close. She usually gets tips for taking food orders out to cars. I don't know what the tip percentages usually are. Some tip a lot, some do a little and some don't tip at all.
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Post by MalleyCat on Jul 17, 2022 1:58:38 GMT
If you don't tip on take out that's your prerogative but for the love of all that's holy don't you dare defend it with "it's not the same level of service" .... just say you don't feel like it. No need to add insult to injury. This is why threads like this are good. It will hopefully help people have a better understanding. 😉
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 17, 2022 3:46:53 GMT
If you don't tip on take out that's your prerogative but for the love of all that's holy don't you dare defend it with "it's not the same level of service" .... just say you don't feel like it. No need to add insult to injury. This is why threads like this are good. It will hopefully help people have a better understanding. 😉 To better understand, am I wrong in thinking that walking back and forth to a table from the kitchen several times for about an hour, repeatedly pouring drinks, removing plates and trash, answering questions/chatting several times in that hour, is more time and effort than packing the order, taking payment and making sure the order gets to the correct customer? And that's not to diminish anyone's job or how hard they work, since a to go person probably does more to go orders in the same time frame. So they both work their ass off, just a different customer per hour ratio? I know a server has several tables, but PER CUSTOMER is it more time and effort spent on each dine in table?
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Post by Gennifer on Jul 17, 2022 8:02:17 GMT
Um. Ok. Sure. I highly doubt that happens IRL. This isn't 'Waiting.' And if a restaurant wants to play stupid games than they can win stupid prizes with fines or closure. When’s the last time you worked in a restaurant?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2022 9:29:57 GMT
I don't just tip at restaurants or food delivery people, I make a point to tip people that are doing a service for me. For example, I have a certain day that I go get groceries. I meal plan and go buy everything all at once on a certain day. That can sometimes be quite the haul as I have a decent sized family. There is a security guy that is always working outside gathering carts and walking around. I tip him every single time and I tip him well (especially since I know the wages in this country are not good). Now, when I come out of the store, he magically appears and will push my cart all the way to my car.
There is a wholesale place here that sells foodstuff that I frequent. I always tip the people that carry the stuff to my car. They know my name and are extra helpful every.single.time I come in the store. This one particular time, the guy put stuff in my car and held the door open for me to get in. He motioned for me to start down the road. It was then that I saw these three guys that had been hiding behind a truck and they were watching us. The employee told me, they were about to rob you...be careful.
We have been financially blessed and have made it through Covid. I have watched soooo many service based businesses go under and their employees struggle. At this point, I feel like we are all in it together.
Yes, it is a "job" to be in the service industry, but these people aren't mindless minions to serve your whims. They are people just trying to make it in the world. If I can give a little bit (which I can afford to do) and that helps someone buy things for the schooling or buy something a little nicer to eat than usual...I am all for it.
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Post by scrappinghappy on Jul 17, 2022 10:00:08 GMT
I say this every time we have a thread like this: Those of you who don’t tip, ever, are definitely remembered by the restaurant. I can guaran-damn-tee you are getting some “special” additions to your food. You can’t be serious! Surely that would violate every health code out there and open up the restaurant to law suits.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 17, 2022 13:48:40 GMT
Um. Ok. Sure. I highly doubt that happens IRL. This isn't 'Waiting.' And if a restaurant wants to play stupid games than they can win stupid prizes with fines or closure. When’s the last time you worked in a restaurant? I worked in restaurants in college and that never happened. If it happens now, I would guess the people at that restaurant are also assholes. There is no justification for that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2022 14:13:20 GMT
Gennifer what sorts of nasty little surprises might you put in people's food? Is this something your family condones at their restaurant? I've worked in a lot of restaurants, too, and while "times have changed" since, it was widely known even then that saying the staff will mar the food of people they didn't like was a method of coercion, a sort of ha-ha threat to make folks think twice about not being nice or tipping. No one with any integrity would have actually done that.
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Post by Gennifer on Jul 17, 2022 16:46:13 GMT
Of course we wouldn’t condone it, and of course it would be a health violation… if someone was caught. But a lot of people working in restaurants are young and stupid and impulsive or older and don’t really give a shit. So you can live your life in blissful ignorance or you can do everything in your power to make service people like you, which includes being nice (shocking how many aren’t!) and tipping well. I choose the latter. ETA: For those who think this doesn’t happen… this was reported just a couple of months ago, and this dude was a MANAGER. I highly doubt this was the only time he did it. www.foxla.com/news/arbys-manager-admits-to-urinating-at-least-twice-in-milkshake-mix-police-sayAlso, @scrubologist, fuck off for saying I would do that.
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Post by Merge on Jul 17, 2022 17:04:40 GMT
Of course we wouldn’t condone it, and of course it would be a health violation… if someone was caught. But a lot of people working in restaurants are young and stupid and impulsive or older and don’t really give a shit. So you can live your life in blissful ignorance or you can do everything in your power to make service people like you, which includes being nice (shocking how many aren’t!) and tipping well. I choose the latter. ETA: For those who think this doesn’t happen… this was reported just a couple of months ago, and this dude was a MANAGER. I guarantee this wasn’t the only time he did it. www.foxla.com/news/arbys-manager-admits-to-urinating-at-least-twice-in-milkshake-mix-police-sayYeah, um, I worked a lot of food service in the 80s-90s and workers will definitely take revenge. Often not as egregious as peeing in something. I used to see kitchen staff drop food on the floor on purpose, for example, and then box it up like nothing happened. Or put a hair in the food, or cough on it while plating. Some customers have the attitude that service workers are beneath them and just have to take whatever shit is doled out to them, and would never dare do anything about it, but … some of them will. (Before anyone asks, no, I never messed with anyone’s food in a disgusting way. But a couple of things I did when people were shitty - slow-walking everything to customers who were ordering next to nothing, asking for the moon in customizations, and guaranteed to leave a tiny tip or no tip at all. You, sir, get the slowest service I can provide. Oh and we’d mess up people’s to go orders on purpose if they were rude. That was back before anyone tipped the hostess for preparing a to-go order, so if you’re standing there yelling at me about how long it’s taking and blah blah blah, no guarantee you’re going to get the correct salad dressing or whatever and I’ll probably forget your garlic bread.) DH and I both slung burgers and waited tables in school. We tip well, try to keep any changes to a minimum, and are polite and pleasant to everyone. I choose to believe this is why we almost never have bad service or a disappointing meal.
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Post by myshelly on Jul 17, 2022 17:09:50 GMT
Of course we wouldn’t condone it, and of course it would be a health violation… if someone was caught. But a lot of people working in restaurants are young and stupid and impulsive or older and don’t really give a shit. So you can live your life in blissful ignorance or you can do everything in your power to make service people like you, which includes being nice (shocking how many aren’t!) and tipping well. I choose the latter. ETA: For those who think this doesn’t happen… this was reported just a couple of months ago, and this dude was a MANAGER. I highly doubt this was the only time he did it. www.foxla.com/news/arbys-manager-admits-to-urinating-at-least-twice-in-milkshake-mix-police-sayAlso, @scrubologist, fuck off for saying I would do that. You can’t even tip at Arby’s. Like there’s no option in their system.
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Post by 950nancy on Jul 17, 2022 17:14:33 GMT
I say this every time we have a thread like this: Those of you who don’t tip, ever, are definitely remembered by the restaurant. I can guaran-damn-tee you are getting some “special” additions to your food. myshelly , aren’t you the one who has your family take off their clothes outside when they’ve been to a hospital? I would think you’d be a wee bit more concerned about what’s going into your food, and therefore your body, since you’re such a germaphobe about your skin. I've known quite a few people who have jobs in food service before they found their career. And yes, people do get even for people who don't tip previously, act superior or are just demanding or rude. It is not uncommon at all for servers to get even.
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Post by Gennifer on Jul 17, 2022 17:17:11 GMT
You can’t even tip at Arby’s. Like there’s no option in their system. Completely missing the point.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2022 17:19:52 GMT
Of course we wouldn’t condone it, and of course it would be a health violation… if someone was caught. But a lot of people working in restaurants are young and stupid and impulsive or older and don’t really give a shit. So you can live your life in blissful ignorance or you can do everything in your power to make service people like you, which includes being nice (shocking how many aren’t!) and tipping well. I choose the latter. ETA: For those who think this doesn’t happen… this was reported just a couple of months ago, and this dude was a MANAGER. I highly doubt this was the only time he did it. www.foxla.com/news/arbys-manager-admits-to-urinating-at-least-twice-in-milkshake-mix-police-sayAlso, @scrubologist , fuck off for saying I would do that. Oh, gosh, I don't believe I will fuck off. YOU brought it up. YOU have talked numerous times about your/family restaurant. If you haven't seen it there or done it yourself (and I wasn't accusing you, Little Miss Thin-skinned, I was asking WHAT would those surprises be that you referred to) then you've got nothin'. No one said there aren't gross assholes out there who do nasty things to people's food like your link. Exceptions to rules don't make new rules.
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Post by Gennifer on Jul 17, 2022 17:28:49 GMT
@scrubologist:
“what sorts of nasty little surprises might you put in people's food?” = directed right at me.
“what sorts of nasty little surprises might one put in people's food?” = asking a general question for clarification.
If you didn’t mean to accuse me, use better words. 🤷🏼♀️
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Post by myshelly on Jul 17, 2022 17:43:22 GMT
@scrubologist: “what sorts of nasty little surprises might you put in people's food?” = directed right at me. “what sorts of nasty little surprises might one put in people's food?” = asking a general question for clarification. If you didn’t mean to accuse me, use better words. 🤷🏼♀️ She accused you because you’re the one who threatened it. Maybe someone who uses her real picture should think more carefully about things that could get her real restaurant in trouble with the real health department. Reverse image searches and google and all that. What you said was gross and unprofessional. Really does make people wonder about how sanitary your place of work is. I am always incredibly nice to waiters at table service restaurants. I tip really well for good service. I just don’t think take out does anything to deserve a tip. I don’t think bad table service deserves a tip, either. I feel no guilt at leaving a bad tip or no tip when we get bad service in situations where we would normally tip. Tips are for *good* service, not to be given just as a matter of course to everyone who sticks their hand out. I don’t get takeout often because I hate takeout in general. We don’t get takeout anywhere often enough that we would be remembered, so I am not at all worried about the things you threatened. I did not miss the point of your Arby’s post, I just think it’s stupid you’re going on a rant about tipping and then post an example of a fast food place that literally doesn’t accept tips.
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Post by Just T on Jul 17, 2022 17:53:50 GMT
Such an interesting conversation this has been.
I guess as someone who has had numerous jobs in the service industry (none of them were tip jobs), I always try to treat people as kindly as I can. I would never think to tip at McDonalds, etc. I don't think they even have a way for you to pay a tip. I don't typically tip at Starbucks, either, just because I only order a cup of coffee--nothing special, just plain coffee that I stir some cream into. I guess if I ordered fancy things that required more work and skill from the barista, I would be more likely to tip in that situation. I do tip when I am ordering and picking up from a restaurant because I know that a server is putting the order together. My daughter has worked part time in a well known restaurant chain for quite a few years, and I know she appreciates when those who are picking up their food tip her. Sometimes, they take turns filling those orders in between waiting on their tables, but sometimes, if it is slow, one person will do that, which means they aren't getting any other tips. I think I am a pretty good tipper. I really always have been, but more so now since the pandemic and restaurants are often short staffed, which puts more pressure on those who are working there. Recently, I tipped our pizza delivery driver 10, and our pizza order was under $15. He looked at it and said, "ma'am, did you mean to put that much for a tip??" He was so surprised and said, well that makes up for the last person who didn't tip me at all. I truly feel bad for people who work in the food industry right now. They put up with so much, and if I can spare a few extra bucks to make their shift better, I'm going to do it.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jul 17, 2022 18:02:27 GMT
Prior to COVID I didn't tip for takeout. Except the guy delivering my pizza. Now I tip all over the place and I've increased my tip level for dine in. I share the sentiment of allipeas. COVID was rough on the restaurant industry. Rough. And they still haven't bounced back. Just the other day I was in a Mexican restaurant with a sign on the hostess podium that said they were severely short staffed and asked patrons to be gentle with the service people. Half the restaurant was not open for guests and only 2 wait staff were servicing the rest of the restaurant. I got hot food and the whole order was correct. It took a while but I was in no hurry. We both waited until our drinks were empty to indicate we needed a refill, instead of him needing to make two trips to refill he took both our cups and refilled at the same time. It took him a slightly longer bit of time of clear our table and drop off our bill. But he checked on our food, our food was hot, and we could see him running all over the restaurant. He also had to take our payment and they previously had someone taking payment at the door. Not anymore because I'm sure they can't spare the employee. The hostess was not only seating people but also running takeout orders and prior to COVID this was not a takeout restaurant. You bet your ass I tipped him 30%.
The way I see it is I am pretty privileged. I have plenty of money. I kept working through COVID. I have the luxury of not having to do several people's jobs where I work, so like alli said, we are all in this together. And I'm being generous.
I tipped my pizza delivery driver $15 on a $50 order last week. You bet your butt that the pizza place which is right around the corner from my house says 45-60 minutes on their app but my pizza arrives in 30 because the driver knows they are getting a great tip. I tipped on my app order too so he knew what he was getting before he delivered and he thanked me at the door for the generous tip and he said he really appreciated our patience that night because they were running a skeleton crew inside and he was the only driver that night.
This is what is going on in food service right now. At least in my area. So many restaurants are doing takeout that was unheard of before COVID just because it was the only way they could keep their business thriving with shutdowns. And now they've set a precedent. You'd better believe I tip those restaurants good for my takeout orders. Their vision when they opened was not even to do takeout but it's the only way they survived for a year and a half.
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Post by Gennifer on Jul 17, 2022 18:07:37 GMT
You might want to reread my posts, myshelly; I never threatened it, because I never would. Although you might have tempted me if we ever crossed paths… unfortunately, we’ll never know since I no longer work in the restaurant. 🤷🏼♀️ If you’d bothered to read my posts, you would have seen that I mentioned being nice as the first thing, with tipping well second. Not all places accept tips, but every service person should be treated with kindness. And, in the last two years, that’s changed… drastically. People are dicks. My point with the Arby’s link is that this guy, a manager, just did it for kicks. He wasn’t targeting a specific customer. If anyone thinks this kind of thing only happens in a fast food restaurant, where he has no personal beef with the customers, they are delusional. Because when someone relies on tips to pay their rent or buy food (and yes, people boxing to-go orders fall into that category), it’s really easy to get mad when you feel like you’ve been shorted. And we can rant at “the system” all we want, and how tipping culture sucks or whatever, but to that person, in that moment, the customer in front of them is directly responsible. You do you, of course. I’m just saying what I do.
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Post by Just T on Jul 17, 2022 18:09:28 GMT
The way I see it is I am pretty privileged. I have plenty of money. I kept working through COVID. I have the luxury of not having to do several people's jobs where I work, so like alli said, we are all in this together. And I'm being generous. Some people really need to look up the word Ubuntu. Community. When one thrives, we should all thrive. As usual, you said all that so well. I also have been so grateful the past two years that the pandemic didn't affect my family's income, and I will keep doing my small part. I love the last thing you said, jeremysgirl. That is perfect, and I wish more people believed that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2022 18:22:58 GMT
@scrubologist : “what sorts of nasty little surprises might you put in people's food?” = directed right at me. “what sorts of nasty little surprises might one put in people's food?” = asking a general question for clarification. If you didn’t mean to accuse me, use better words. 🤷🏼♀️ Back to your original comment then, you guaran-damn-tee what exactly? (This is mostly rhetorical, but feel free. Oh, by the by, if you are going to guaran-damn-tee something, you need to understand what that might say about you and the thing you're guaran-damn-teeing.)
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Post by SallyPA on Jul 17, 2022 19:09:10 GMT
Depends what it is and where it is. I really hate the option that many small shops use where you tip when you order. No thank you. I just went ti a small soda shoppe and orders 3 mild shakes and they were $23. I did not tip because 1)that is plenty for an order that took 5-7 mins to make - they were all the same flavors 2)it was a tip as you order on an iPad deal and I hate them and 3)I stood at the counter waiting for them, leaving a table for someone dining in.
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Post by playingcinderella on Jul 18, 2022 0:08:22 GMT
At Fast Food, no. At a full service restaurant- absolutely.
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