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Post by onelasttime on Aug 18, 2022 16:13:15 GMT
Since the businesses are privately owned by trump and a few others and since he was active in the businesses until he resigned in 2017 it will be kind of hard for him not to personally be investigated.
Or if all this tax stuff was going on and he claims he knew nothing about it, it will make him look like failure as a CEO/businessman by not knowing what was happening in his own businesses. Not a great selling point for someone who wants to be president.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 18, 2022 16:34:10 GMT
Problem with Weisselberg... Rikers is not safe at all, maybe safer then on the street?
What happens if he goes to jail and the organization trial happens in two years and decides not to talk?
15 felonies, only 5 months?
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Post by Scrapper100 on Aug 18, 2022 16:38:59 GMT
Problem with Weisselberg... Rikers is not safe at all, maybe safer then on the street? What happens if he goes to jail and the organization trial happens in two years and decides not to talk? 15 felonies, only 5 months? That is nuts. I know he got a deal but if 15 felonies that’s just not right.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 18, 2022 16:43:13 GMT
An answer to my questions: Trump Organization Chief Financial Officer Allen Weisselberg was warned by a judge on Thursday that he could face years in prison if he fails to cooperate and testify truthfully against his employer. Weisselberg admitted guilt in a plea deal that would see him sentenced to six months in jail, although he is only expected to serve three months. But at a hearing on Thursday, Weisselberg learned that failing to cooperate could result in 15 years of jail time. Under the deal, the CFO would have to testify in a trial against former President Donald Trump's company. Prosecutor Joshua Adam Steinglass told the court that his office would seek significant prison time if Weisselberg violates the terms of the plea agreement. District Judge Juan Merchan advised Weisselberg that he could spend between five and 15 years in prison. “If you fail to testify truthfully at the upcoming trial of the Trump Organization,” Merchan said, “I would then not be bound by my sentence promise.” www.rawstory.com/allen-weisselberg-plea-deal/
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 18, 2022 16:52:22 GMT
Like I have said, politicians have found ways to insulate themselves from having to explain their lies and misinformation publicly.
From The Washington Post..
“Opinion MAGA Republicans shut out the media — and the public”
By the Editorial Board August 18, 2022 at 11:05 a.m. EDT
“Journalists across the United States find themselves increasingly shut out of political events they would have routinely, and easily, covered in previous election cycles.
Candidates have been trying to bypass mainstream media scrutiny for generations. Most politicians prefer to engage with ideologically friendly outlets, such as Fox News or MSNBC. But in recent election cycles, campaigns have generally scheduled fewer, yet more scripted, public events. More often than before, newsworthy gatherings are not announced ahead of time and reporters only find out they occurred when pictures get posted to social media or a news release is sent out later. For traditional outlets, interviews with many candidates have become harder to secure. Some campaigns don’t even return calls or emails.
These trends don’t just hinder media coverage. They also insulate would-be leaders from tough questions and thorny issues. Mostly, they hurt voters by leaving them less informed.
Both parties deserve criticism on this front, but the worst offenders, by far, come from the GOP’s MAGA wing. Sarah Palin, a former governor and vice-presidential nominee, announced no public events in Alaska between a rally that former president Donald Trump headlined for her in Anchorage on July 9 and the special election that took place Tuesday. In Pennsylvania, gubernatorial nominee Doug Mastriano’s campaign has physically barred reporters from entering events.
Other candidates, such as Georgia Senate hopeful Herschel Walker, have also been extremely unavailable.
The Florida GOP recently blocked many independent reporters, including from The Post, from covering the party’s Sunshine Summit — which was previously open to the media — while permitting outlets that were deemed sufficiently supportive. When journalists complained, the spokeswoman for Gov. Ron DeSantis tweeted: “My message to them is to try crying about it.” Florida’s governor has pioneered new techniques in thwarting journalists from doing their jobs. He gave Fox News, for example, exclusive access to a bill-signing.
On Friday, Mr. DeSantis will travel to Ohio to stump with Republican Senate candidate J.D. Vance. The organizers of the event, a conservative nonprofit called Turning Point Action, are requiring that journalists applying for credentials agree to give organizers access to any footage they record and be willing to answer questions about how it will be used. Journalists who attend are restricted from recording speakers, staff and attendees who do not wish to be filmed or going into certain areas of the event. They also are barred from recording anything displayed on projection screens.
To apply for a credential, reporters must agree to the terms that state: “Turning Point Action shall have the final say on all matters.” A spokesman for Turning Point Action says the group frequently waives “certain clauses for legitimate press outlets that are covering the event in good faith, as we’ve offered to do with Washington Post reporters for the very events in question.”
That’s a start, but these highly unusual conditions have led to understandable outrage among Ohio television stations. Media organizations record these events for the benefit of voters, as well as for history. They should be allowed to do their jobs unencumbered.”
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 18, 2022 19:12:43 GMT
Must have been a few raised eyebrows at the breakfast table!!!! Utah GQP Rep has a new idea.. it all about women stopping men..How does that work with rape and incest? The newspaper reported the story under the headline, "GOP lawmaker says she trusts Utah women to control their ‘intake of semen’ as abortion trigger law goes into effect."Rep. Karianne Lisonbee told reporters at a Capitol press conference about a text message she received urging her to hold men accountable, The Salt Lake Tribune reported Friday evening. I got a text message today saying I should seek to control men’s ejaculations and not women’s pregnancies ... I do trust women enough to control when they allow a man to ejaculate inside of them and to control that intake of semen,” Lisonbee said. The law, which as SB174, was certified by the legislature's general counsel on Friday. www.rawstory.com/karianne-lisonbee-abortion/#cxrecs_s
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 18, 2022 19:27:31 GMT
Pure Republican spin in the Washington Post.
“Opinion Why Republicans don’t want to join Liz Cheney on her kamikaze mission”
By Marc A. Thiessen
From the article…
“Whatever you think of Liz Cheney, give her credit for courage: She knew that relentlessly pursuing Donald Trump meant the end of her congressional career, and she did it anyway. It was an act of bravery, akin to kamikaze pilots who intentionally crashed their planes into the deck of an aircraft carrier.
The problem for Cheney is: Most Republicans are not interested in kamikaze missions.
Cheney believes that Trump is the greatest threat facing our country today, greater than the serial disasters President Biden has unleashed since taking office — among them, the worst inflation in 40 years, the highest gas prices in decades, the worst border crisis in U.S. history and the worst crime wave in many cities since the 1990s. She thinks stopping Trump is more important than stopping Democrats from spending trillions of our tax dollars, hiring an army of IRS agents to harass hard-working Americans, raising taxes on businesses struggling in this economy, projecting weakness on the world stage and pursuing a radical climate agenda at the expense of U.S. energy independence.”
Now some may agree with this spin but the reality is his laundry list of “disasters unleashed by President Biden” are a combination of temporary and bullshit.
But what trump and his minions are doing could very well end that experiment started by the framers all those years ago. An experiment we as a country managed to keep going until a group of power hungry racist decided to change things by lying, spewing misinformation, changing or denying our history, banning books, taking away people’s rights, finding ways to stop people from voting, laying the groundwork to overturn elections for no other reason then they don’t like the outcome, and becoming more invasive in people’s lives.
Silly me because I don’t think Liz Cheney or any Republican calling out what trump & company are doing is a suicide mission but something a lot more Republicans should be doing.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 18, 2022 19:46:51 GMT
I'm not willing to let voters in Wyoming off the hook for voting for Cheney's loss, they are responsible. However, they are not the only ones. Today's Republican Party and conservative media bears a lot of responsibility as well. If more Republicans had the courage to stand up to Trump, to call out his lies, to denounce the violence on Jan 6, to impeach him, to support the Jan 6 investigation etc, we would not be in this situation. Instead, conservative media and the Republicans tied their fortune to him, doubled down, remained silent, refused to call him on the Big Lie or worse, went along with it. Then they continued to support him, tried to delegitimize the committee and whitewash history. this kind of nonsense from Eric Trump doesn't help heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/august-17-2022“Last night, my father killed another political dynasty, and that’s the Cheneys. He first killed the Bushes, then he killed the Clintons. Last night he killed the Cheneys.” So Eric Trump, former president Donald Trump’s son, interpreted the primary loss by Representative Liz Cheney (R-WY) last night. Great opinion on why it's not simply a problem with voters www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/17/five-gop-power-centers-ranked/But while the choices of Republican voters have been very bad, it’s Republican elected officials at the local, state and federal level who are really driving the party — and therefore the country — in a radical, undemocratic direction. These officials and politicians, including Trump, are the party’s most important and influential extremists.
Last night's PBS News Hour had a great segment about Cheney's loss, her political future and the future of the Republican party. Liz Cheney may run for president in 2024 just to run against Trump or DeSatan, to have a national platform to refute their lies. www.pbs.org/video/vote-2022-dis-1660773568/
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Post by Gem Girl on Aug 18, 2022 20:00:31 GMT
Should we feel sorry he gets threats? Not in the video! I've had probably over 50 threats this year. Sometimes i can have a dozen in a week. We have my address posted online, we have people who are wishing me ill will, injury, all the time." It doesn't surprise me that Rand Paul gets threats; he's obnoxious. Many people empathized with his neighbor who punched him. Just mentioning, not condoning. But these yahoos threatening FBI agents? They should consider whom they'd call in if somebody dear to them is ever kidnapped, if they ever face a cyber attack, bank fraud, or if they should ever be victimized by international terrorists. It's a demanding, thankless job that doesn't pay as well as it should for the risks involved.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Aug 18, 2022 20:02:37 GMT
I'm not willing to let voters in Wyoming off the hook for voting for Cheney's loss, they are responsible. However, they are not the only ones. Today's Republican Party and conservative media bears a lot of responsibility as well. If more Republicans had the courage to stand up to Trump, to call out his lies, to denounce the violence on Jan 6, to impeach him, to support the Jan 6 investigation etc, we would not be in this situation. Instead, conservative media and the Republicans tied their fortune to him, doubled down, remained silent, refused to call him on the Big Lie or worse, went along with it. Then they continued to support him, tried to delegitimize the committee and whitewash history. this kind nonsense from Eric Trump doesn't help heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/august-17-2022“Last night, my father killed another political dynasty, and that’s the Cheneys. He first killed the Bushes, then he killed the Clintons. Last night he killed the Cheneys.” So Eric Trump, former president Donald Trump’s son, interpreted the primary loss by Representative Liz Cheney (R-WY) last night. Great opinion on why it's not simply a problem with voters www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/17/five-gop-power-centers-ranked/But while the choices of Republican voters have been very bad, it’s Republican elected officials at the local, state and federal level who are really driving the party — and therefore the country — in a radical, undemocratic direction. These officials and politicians, including Trump, are the party’s most important and influential extremists.
Last night's PBS News Hour had a great segment about Cheney's loss, her political future and the future of the Republican party. Liz Cheney may run for president in 2024 just to run against Trump or DeSatan, to have a national platform to refute their lies. www.pbs.org/video/vote-2022-dis-1660773568/I like the idea of her running to refute their lies but wonder how much press she will get. I would bet that Fox won’t give her air time and don’t see her making it far because she doesn’t worship trump or DeSanto. People seem to be digging in deeper with them. Those that are your traditional republicans aren’t paying that much attention and don’t believe that the things we are telling them will really happen. Oh women that need an abortion to save their lives will always be able to do so, contraceptives will always be available, social security, medicare won’t change and school issues banning books, racism, anti gay, not being able to tell the real history of slavery or holocaust etc aren’t real it’s just scare tactics and only a tiny minority want those things. Those are extreme and not real. I have seen this argument from many as they say that those aren’t republican views.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 18, 2022 20:18:31 GMT
Oh women that need an abortion to save their lives will always be able to do so, contraceptives will always be available, social security, medicare won’t change and school issues banning books, racism, anti gay, not being able to tell the real history of slavery or holocaust etc aren’t real it’s just scare tactics and only a tiny minority want those things. Those are extreme and not real. I have seen this argument from many as they say that those aren’t republican views.
NOT!! So unless you are person of means. And that number will escalate soon.
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 18, 2022 22:31:53 GMT
No matter how much money the GOP spends in Ohio, JD Vance is the type of candidate the voters, if they have any sense, should run from. But we will see.
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 18, 2022 23:10:41 GMT
He may have a point…
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 19, 2022 0:09:26 GMT
The difference between the elected Democrats…
And the elected Republicans ….
And the Republicans plan if they take control of the House…
This is all the Republicans talk about who they are going to impeach and they have offered up absolutely nothing about what they want to do to benefit the American People.
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 19, 2022 0:12:17 GMT
I don’t know if that is true since it’s coming from this guy, but if it is good!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 19, 2022 0:17:27 GMT
They have no boundaries... They will spend all their time attempting to impeach every one... Without the votes to convict!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 19, 2022 0:20:12 GMT
I don’t know if that is true since it’s coming from this guy, but if it is good! Yes, Warnock is ahead and raising $$$$$$. He is worth it!
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 19, 2022 0:34:00 GMT
I don’t know if that is true since it’s coming from this guy, but if it is good! Yes, Warnock is ahead and raising $$$$$$. He is worth it! Warnock is amazing. He's very articulate, well spoken, charming, passionate about voting rights and he connects with people. I donated to him, not because he's running against Hersel Walker, I donated because he's a great politician and Washington needs more like him. www.cbsnews.com/news/raphael-warnock-fundraising-second-quarter-georgia-senate-democrats/POLITICS Georgia Sen. Raphael Warnock raises whopping $17.2 million over 3 months
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 19, 2022 2:13:51 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 19, 2022 2:24:49 GMT
Kate Porter is a gem!!
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Post by dizzycheermom on Aug 19, 2022 3:07:41 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 19, 2022 3:08:57 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 19, 2022 3:16:05 GMT
CA Prop 26 & 27.
The Tribes are arguing amongst themselves.
The only real gambling in CA are the Tribe Casinos and maybe a couple of card houses. The Tribes that have Casinos think the ONLY gambling should be at their casinos. Because of the “promise” the CA voters made to the Tribes.
Proposition 27makes it legal for online gambling from corporations outside CA. Meaning you could gamble on your phone or iPad or laptop. A % of the money would stay in CA to be used to fight homelessness. Also a % would be given to the Tribes that aren’t wealthy enough to have their own casinos. This prop is supported by the smaller poorer tribes.
Proposition 26 is supported by the Tribes that have casinos. What they want is for all the online gambling be done only in their Casinos and 3 or 4 racetracks. They also want to add another game they can have at their casinos. Of course they want you to vote no to Prop 26 because they are claiming Prop 27 is so much better for CA.
I’m voting no for both. We don’t need any more ways to gamble in this state.
Why am I bringing this up now, because everywhere I turn there is an ad telling you to vote for one or the other. All day long. The ads started before the primary election in June and it’s only the middle of August and we have to listen to them for another 2 1/2 months. And they are starting to drive me nuts.
Somebody is spending a lot of money on both sides.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 19, 2022 3:58:54 GMT
Heather Cox Richardson writes about the history of the 19th amendment and brings up a great point. I think some Republicans would also suppress women’s votes, if they could find a way.
Yesterday the Department of Justice filed a friend of the court brief in the case of League of Women Voters v. Secretary of State of Florida alleging that “in the face of surging turnout in the 2020 election, the Florida Legislature responded by enacting provisions that impose disparate burdens on Black voters” when it imposed new voting restrictions.
A hundred years later, we are still fighting the same fights.
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 19, 2022 4:05:57 GMT
Hmm.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 19, 2022 4:13:48 GMT
Heather Cox Richardson writes about the history of the 19th amendment and brings up a great point. I think some Republicans would also suppress women’s votes, if they could find a way. Yesterday the Department of Justice filed a friend of the court brief in the case of League of Women Voters v. Secretary of State of Florida alleging that “in the face of surging turnout in the 2020 election, the Florida Legislature responded by enacting provisions that impose disparate burdens on Black voters” when it imposed new voting restrictions. A hundred years later, we are still fighting the same fights. Well, it isn't the Constitution..!! Including several more things... Too bad we couldn't enforce one shot muskets!!!
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Post by Scrapper100 on Aug 19, 2022 4:38:22 GMT
CA Prop 26 & 27. The Tribes are arguing amongst themselves. The only real gambling in CA are the Tribe Casinos and maybe a couple of card houses. The Tribes that have Casinos think the ONLY gambling should be at their casinos. Because of the “promise” the CA voters made to the Tribes. Proposition 27makes it legal for online gambling from corporations outside CA. Meaning you could gamble on your phone or iPad or laptop. A % of the money would stay in CA to be used to fight homelessness. Also a % would be given to the Tribes that aren’t wealthy enough to have their own casinos. This prop is supported by the smaller poorer tribes. Proposition 26 is supported by the Tribes that have casinos. What they want is for all the online gambling be done only in their Casinos and 3 or 4 racetracks. They also want to add another game they can have at their casinos. Of course they want you to vote no to Prop 26 because they are claiming Prop 27 is so much better for CA. I’m voting no for both. We don’t need any more ways to gamble in this state. Why am I bringing this up now, because everywhere I turn there is an ad telling you to vote for one or the other. All day long. The ads started before the primary election in June and it’s only the middle of August and we have to listen to them for another 2 1/2 months. And they are starting to drive me nuts. Somebody is spending a lot of money on both sides. Voting the same but bet it passes as they are saying it’s the cure for homeless. Money goes towards it. I haven’t been paying much attention to the ads.
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Post by pinklady on Aug 19, 2022 13:39:57 GMT
Democrats need to stop praising Liz Cheney and listen to her own words!
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Post by withapea on Aug 19, 2022 14:20:03 GMT
Democrats need to stop praising Liz Cheney and listen to her own words! Liz Cheney believes and votes for all the terrible things the rest of the GOP currently does. She’s done one right thing in opposing Trumpism, it does not negate or absolve anything else. I appreciate her doing the right thing but that is the lowest bar.
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 19, 2022 15:00:56 GMT
8-19-2022
This could be interesting..
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