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Post by Merge on Aug 26, 2022 22:41:05 GMT
Are you under the impression that everyone our age can do those things Well everyone I know that’s my age can. If your generation can’t then the school system failed them. A quick perusal of Boomers on FB shows that they cannot all, in fact, use your/you're correctly. And I haven't had the opportunity to check their change-counting skills, but a fair number show logic deficits unrelated to age. You're ascribing a problem to the schools that has existed throughout human history: some people in every generation are dumbasses. Also, some people are very smart in some areas but dumbasses in others. Regardless, you've aligned yourself here with people who do, in fact, want to destroy our public schools and replace them with for-profit charters and religious schools.
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 26, 2022 22:43:59 GMT
This is one of those situations one wonders if she is really this dumb or she thinks/knows the people who watch Fox News are… She does realize that this is what TFG does every time he says something, right? Sure, because MAGAs never do that, as everyone knows. Trump certainly never does that. Always the little gentleman. ☺️🥴
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 26, 2022 22:47:29 GMT
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 26, 2022 22:48:07 GMT
'They' want public schools to fail... No, no one wants public schools to fail. We want them to do the job of teaching kids how to read, write, do basic math without a calculator. When I go in a store and hand that 19yr old a $10 bill and a quarter to pay for a $9.18 item I don’t want to be told I gave them too much money because they have no idea how to make change. I want them to know the difference between there, their and they’re and know how to properly use them. My friends can too. But I have observed that there seems to be a certain subset of the population that never learned to write these words correctly, for whatever reason. I have no idea why they are confusing, but apparently they are. It could be something as simple as a lack of practice in some cases. It does drive me crazy, I’ll admit.
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Post by Merge on Aug 26, 2022 23:05:42 GMT
No, no one wants public schools to fail. We want them to do the job of teaching kids how to read, write, do basic math without a calculator. When I go in a store and hand that 19yr old a $10 bill and a quarter to pay for a $9.18 item I don’t want to be told I gave them too much money because they have no idea how to make change. I want them to know the difference between there, their and they’re and know how to properly use them. My friends can too. But I have observed that there seems to be a certain subset of the population that never learned to write these words correctly, for whatever reason. I have no idea why they are confusing, but apparently they are. It could be something as simple as a lack of practice in some cases. It does drive me crazy, I’ll admit. Not everyone’s brain organizes information the same way, right? I put this into that category. I have a deficit around remembering names and faces. Other people don’t easily sort through which word to use or when to use it. Some others don’t easily group numbers logically to make change. It’s evidence of brain differences, not an indictment of the school system. But some want to use this as a reason to stop teaching the arts or history or any other kind of thinking until every single person can adequately count your change back to you (a dying skill in this age of cash-free stores and restaurants).
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 26, 2022 23:21:07 GMT
The President is getting a little feisty. Good for him.
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Post by Merge on Aug 26, 2022 23:21:30 GMT
Regarding making change, yes, I know how. But, why do kids need to learn that today? Every technology available tells them what to give back. Also, I graduated 40 years ago. There has been so much advancement and history made in those 40 years. Some things need to just drop off the curriculum, to make way for all the new things kids need to learn today. Another thing, I keep hearing how far behind our (USA) students are compared to others, yet these school boards are taking away things that allow them to compete. Yep. With technology advances, things like change counting are less important than learning social and emotional skills that allow workers to interact with others who may not look or think like them. In many places, it’s less important for a cashier to be able to count change than to deal competently and compassionately with an elderly, disabled, or non-English-speaking customer. Your child with advanced math skills still needs to be able to work well with people from around the globe to be successful in today’s economy. Yet the people who talk about “going back to the basics” now want to do away with SEL. My husband, who co-owns a software implementation company, has found his current niche in employee counseling - teaching his brilliant and mildly autistic business partner to communicate effectively with subordinates, teaching the subordinates to “manage up,” working with mid-level employees to navigate cultural barriers between the US and Colombia, etc. These were not things we learned or our parents learned in school, but they are necessary today.
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 26, 2022 23:29:15 GMT
Good question…
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Post by mom2jnk on Aug 27, 2022 3:12:14 GMT
The President is getting a little feisty. Good for him. It's about damn time! I especially appreciate the White House tweets regarding the massive PPP loan write-offs among certain Republican lawmakers complaining about college debt forgiveness program. Time to start hitting back.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 27, 2022 3:21:56 GMT
No, not because of Dr. Fauci. People lost jobs and students lost months, not years, in school because of a pandemic. And the conspiracy theory that Dr Fauci and the Wuhan lab were involved is just that, a conspiracy theory. I think I might have figured out where this singling out and blaming of Fauci is coming from, at least in part. I think the attacks are in part, motivated by revenge, to take down anyone who criticized Trump. And a deflection from all of the negative attention on Trump or how the poll numbers for Republicans look worse than a few months ago. Also, right wing media seems to be pushing this false narrative that kids were irrevocably harmed by covid and elevating the harm to catastrophic levels. They won't learn how to read, they won't get a job, they won't go to college etc. I work in an elementary school with kindergarten and first grade kids. We were in person for the entire 2020-2021 school year, except for 2 weeks just before Christmas. I see first hand the impact of covid on kids' academic, social and emotional development. However, kids are resilient and with the help of teachers, will most likely recover. This fake concern for the welfare of children from Republicans and conservative media seems disingenuous after years of underfunding schools, attacking teachers, attacking the public school system and blocking efforts to do anything about gun violence in schools. If conservatives are genuinely concerned about the welfare of children, why are they not doing anything to give schools more resources to make up for lost time? Or doing anything helpful regarding the teacher shortage? It's just easier to point fingers at someone, create a common enemy and avoid responsibility. Just like inflation, the Republicans also like to ignore that covid was a worldwide problem. Other wealthy countries closed schools, too. As a side note, I don't understand why the Washington Post continues to pay this guy and give him a platform. Their attempt at presenting the other side just legitimizes all of his lies. Surely they could find a conservative writer who doesn't push all of the conservative propaganda and lies. The author got a lot of things wrong in this opinion. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/25/fauci-pandemic-errors-school-closures/Opinion What Fauci got wrong is still costing America’s children Just wanted to add to this. cindosha, these are the people you're defending. And this is what happens as a result of Rubio, DeSantis and others bashing Dr Fauci, dehumanizing him and vocalizing threats against him. www.newsweek.com/maryland-man-charged-threatening-set-anthony-fauci-his-family-fire-1613731In one email, Connally allegedly said Fauci and his family should be "dragged into the street, beaten to death, and set on fire," WJZ-TV reported.
Connally's other alleged emails to Fauci called him "a sickening, compromised satanic freemason criminal" and a "disgusting piece of elf garbage," The Daily Beast reported. He allegedly told Fauci he would be "hunted, tortured, beaten, [and] enslaved," breaking every bone in his "disgusting elf skull." He also said Fauci's wife and daughters would be shot in "their disgusting pig snouts while you watch."www.nytimes.com/2022/08/04/us/fauci-thomas-connally-sentenced.htmlMan Who Threatened to Kill Fauci Is Sentenced to 3 Years in Prison According to court documents, in one email, dated July 21, 2021, Mr. Connally wrote to Dr. Fauci: “I will slaughter your entire family. You will pay with your children’s blood for your crimes.”“Everyone has the right to disagree,” Erek L. Barron, the U.S. attorney for Maryland, said in a statement on Thursday. “But you do not have the right to threaten a federal official’s life.”
“Connally admitted that he sent the threats to Drs. Fauci and Collins with the intent to intimidate or interfere with the performance of their official duties,” according to the statement, “and with the intent to retaliate against Dr. Fauci and Dr. Collins for performing their official duties, including discussing Covid-19 and its testing and prevention.”www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/26/biden-called-republicans-semi-fascist/Rubio, misrepresenting a Post account of a Biden meeting with historians (including Wilentz), said that those warning about authoritarianism are “peddling … imaginary threats.” Rubio added: “If you’re looking for authoritarianism, look no further than what happened under the watch of Anthony Fauci and his allies in the elite establishment.” The day after Rubio alleged that the true authoritarian threat is the head of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases (a job Fauci has held since the Reagan administration), the senator joined Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis at a campaign event. There, DeSantis said this about Fauci: “I’m just sick of seeing him. … Someone needs to grab that little elf and chuck him across the Potomac.”
Dehumanizing a foe’s appearance and fantasizing about violence against him: Where have we seen this before? Earlier this month, a man was sentenced to prison for threats against Fauci — including, as the Daily Beast reported, a wish to break every bone in his “disgusting elf skull.” It was one of countless violent threats against the scientist as Republican officials targeted him for, among other things, the “sweeping shutdown” during the pandemic, as Fox News’s Neil Cavuto put it to Fauci this week. “I didn’t shut down anything,” Fauci replied. That’s true. All Fauci could do was give advice. Some governors followed it. DeSantis didn’t. Instead, he fueled conspiracy theories, dubious treatments, and hostility to masks and vaccines. And Florida, after vaccines became available, had by far the highest covid-19 death rate among big states.
Since then, DeSantis has devoted himself to book banning, voter intimidation and restrictions on what schools can teach about race, history and sexuality — all while DeSantis, a graduate of Yale University and Harvard Law School, bashes “elites.”
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 27, 2022 3:42:33 GMT
Love this satire on the false Republican narrative of weaponizing the IRS against everyday Americans Gift article - no paywall wapo.st/3e1h5cEOpinion Farewell, Mother. I am off to join the IRS army!
My Dearest Mother, I heard the good news today from Senator Grassley and Senator Cruz and many voices more: The Lord be praised, President Biden is starting a new army, 87,000 strong, and all armed, to work for the IRS. They shall burst into homes and knock down doors and wreak Biden’s personal vengeance on the middle class, and every one shall have an AR-15. My dream is coming true. I am rushing to enlist; I am leaving the farm in your hands until my return from service in this glorious cause. I love our home, but a hatred for the American taxpayer surges through me like a strong wind, and I must go. Please tend to the cows until I come home again.
** My Dearest Mother, I arrived at the place of IRS recruitment today. There were a few others there, though not the throngs I expected. Some of them were well past their prime and had an accountant look to them. I tried to bolster everyone’s spirits by singing a song of my own devising about crushing our adversaries and ending democracy, but nobody joined in. They did hire me because they saw I had a lot of experience entering data, though I apologized profusely for it and said I had been working out. Now I must prove myself, which I will do in boot camp. Hope you are well, and the cows, too.
** My Dearest Mother, We are training, but there is no sign yet of my AR-15. Instead, we watched a long PowerPoint about keeping people’s data private and how to use the computer system. It was very frustrating because it contained over 85 slides, and each slide I thought to myself, “This will be the one with the AR-15 and glorious battle plan,” and then it was just about how to remove staples and then add them back later, and this happened 85 times. I asked when we would get to torment the middle class with audits, but Gregory Dunbar (who will sit next to me) said that there is nothing in our mission about that and actually having discretion to audit people who don’t report above $400,000 in income is good because otherwise tax cheats would just all report $399,999, which had not occurred to me. All the computers here are very old and there are big piles of paper everywhere.
** My Dearest Mother, Training is ended, they say. Still no AR-15. I tried to ask, but people kept saying, “You mean a Form 1015?” Instead, I am seated at a desk, where I have to manually enter data from tax forms into a very, very old computer. The last person who occupied this desk was somebody named Phyllis, and there is a card wishing her a happy retirement left behind on the desk and a drawing by her grandson taped to the monitor. I do not see the swelling ranks of an 87,000-person army. I asked where the others were and Gregory said, “What others?” I hope they give me my weapon and my mission soon. I told Gregory that and he laughed. After lunch, he gave me a rubber hat to put on my finger to protect it from paper cuts. “There,” he said, “now you are properly armed for your task.” It does really help, though.
** My Dearest Mother, I entered so much data today! The finger hat is really helping. I cannot believe how long they have been using this inefficient system. The ability to collect taxes efficiently and correctly is the hinge on which so much of government’s ability to function turns, and this is just sad. They work like this? If they are not testing me. It still could be a test. ** My Dearest Mother, Today was Carol’s birthday! She sits across from me, and whenever she gets a staple in her finger from a form she says “durn.” She baked us all a cake and we signed a card. I joked that we should have done a paperless card so that there was one thing in the office that was done efficiently using technology from the present day and everybody laughed and said that I was all right. Today was a good day.
** My Dearest Mother, I saw the senators on television again talking about how an army of 87,000 of us was going to come sweeping into people’s homes and describing us in very scary terms. They can say these things about me, but I don’t think it’s right for them to say them about Carol and Gregory. They are just doing their best. Also, I checked and they’re hiring maybe 40,000 people tops; the rest is to counteract attrition like with me with Phyllis. The work is very different than I expected, but I do derive satisfaction from it. I have a purpose here. I have a home here. I must go; forms await. Love to the cows.
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Post by dizzycheermom on Aug 27, 2022 3:45:49 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 27, 2022 4:02:17 GMT
On a more serious note, let's look at one of the sources for the conservative attacks on the IRS, a big Republican donor who has been accused of rape and harassment www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/25/rnc-conference-call-steve-wynn/Specifically, Politico reports, during the question-and-answer session, billionaire GOP donor Steve Wynn asked whether there are additional ways for very well-heeled donors to give anonymously. Wynn also urged Republicans to crank up the messaging that Democratic tax policies will primarily hammer working-class people, per Politico: The billionaire also offered up some messaging advice. Republican candidates, he said, should run aggressive TV ads casting Democrats as advocates of tax policies that would hurt lower-wage earners and small businesses. “Hard-hitting kind of spots with a man’s voice, no soft pedal,” Wynn suggested, before giving a sample script: “‘They’re coming after you if you’re a waiter, if you’re a bartender, if you’re anybody with a cash business … they’re coming after you.’” It’s particularly perverse for a billionaire donor such as Wynn to advise Republicans to “message” in this way because the new legislation’s provisions are actually designed to target the very wealthiest Americans who benefit from business structures that require lots of IRS resources to audit. That is, people like Wynn.
www.politico.com/news/2022/08/24/rnc-chief-on-tape-to-donors-00053642www.npr.org/2020/10/21/925827821/gop-welcomes-steve-wynns-millions-despite-rape-and-harassment-allegations
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Post by dawnnikol on Aug 27, 2022 12:18:38 GMT
Way to stereotype, dude.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 27, 2022 13:15:05 GMT
There is a place, far, far away for him!!!
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