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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 25, 2022 17:48:54 GMT
Lara Trump needs to go back to civics/social study classes and learn about how our government really works..
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Post by cindosha on Aug 25, 2022 18:08:35 GMT
Wow, amazing, you were in DC to observe all the actions you claim to know... Are you insinuating that fauci had nothing to do with the shutdowns, masks, schools, etc??? That he made no recommendations along with the CDC and that nobody listened or took direction from him? Is that what you are actually saying?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 25, 2022 18:56:15 GMT
No, not at all. He did nothing wrong. He advised as things changed. So many more would not have died had they followed recommendations from the experts.
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Post by maryannscraps on Aug 25, 2022 19:09:55 GMT
For destroying hundreds of thousands of people’s businesses and for setting back the education of young children for 2 years. More than 2 years. It’s still a mess in the schools. To contributing to thousands of people losing their jobs, for the firing of nurses, military, pilots, etc. and punishing people for standing up for their beliefs. For being and acting as the biggest hypocrite in the mask debacle. And that’s just a few. Such a weird post. Let's go ahead and blame the novel virus, that killed over a million people over the last 2.5 years in the US and upended the US economy. The effects are still ongoing. Without the vaccine, those numbers could have been 10x or 100x higher. I don't get where the right wing extremists are coming from on this issue. Did they really want millions more people to die?
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 25, 2022 19:50:24 GMT
Fauci didn’t do any of that. He can’t implement or enforce any of the things you are bitching about. You might try educating yourself a little bit if your going to throw a fit about what someone allegedly did or didn’t do. Individual governors drove state responses. But, if it’s Fauci’s fault isn’t Trump even more at fault for all those things — after all he was the President and it’s his administration. He absolutely was responsible for all of that. The shut down and masking was all under his advisement. And NO. Trump wasn't at fault, if he had more control, which he wasn't because the left screamed for fauci to be in charge, none of that would have gone on as long or been as severe as those things were. Who do you think WAS responsible for the shutdown??? It was shutdown under fauci. The mental gymnastics required to blame everything on Dr. Fauci but not hold Trump responsible is unbelievable and completely illogical.
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Post by samantha25 on Aug 25, 2022 19:53:41 GMT
Wow, amazing, you were in DC to observe all the actions you claim to know... Are you insinuating that fauci had nothing to do with the shutdowns, masks, schools, etc??? That he made no recommendations along with the CDC and that nobody listened or took direction from him? Is that what you are actually saying? What about Birx and Kuschner? They were more in charge than Fauci.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Aug 25, 2022 20:23:11 GMT
IF the former president and his people had encouraged and supported the vaccine he was mostly responsible for, much of what you say would not have happened! The vaccine was available for exactly one month in Trumps presidency. And “regular” people couldn’t get it until 3 months after that. Remember warp speed? I also remember several of FJB’s “people” coughkamalacough, saying that they didn’t trust the vaccine and wouldn’t take it if Trump encouraged it. So it was your people who didn’t support it. Everything that I listed happened because fuchi was such an idiot and hypocrite. She made that comment after it was implied that steps would be skipped to get the vaccine out before it was properly tested. Once it was tested she got it. Trump implied that they were going to bypass a step but the FDA didn’t allow it. It went through all the normal steps but quicker since more money was thrown at it snd we had previous studies to jump off from to make the process faster so the first trial came sooner. I know when Trump first made the comment I was leary to but once it was known that steps weren’t skipped I was all for it. I certainly wouldn’t make my decision one way or another based on any comments from her and can’t imagine anyone else did either.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Aug 25, 2022 20:33:31 GMT
For destroying hundreds of thousands of people’s businesses and for setting back the education of young children for 2 years. More than 2 years. It’s still a mess in the schools. To contributing to thousands of people losing their jobs, for the firing of nurses, military, pilots, etc. and punishing people for standing up for their beliefs. For being and acting as the biggest hypocrite in the mask debacle. And that’s just a few. Such a weird post. Let's go ahead and blame the novel virus, that killed over a million people over the last 2.5 years in the US and upended the US economy. The effects are still ongoing. Without the vaccine, those numbers could have been 10x or 100x higher. I don't get where the right wing extremists are coming from on this issue. Did they really want millions more people to die? Exactly if we had done nothing the number of deaths and those suffering from long Covid would have been so much worse. He made suggestions based on what the facts were telling us. As our knowledge grew we adapted to that knowledge. There were so many deaths most of which were preventable. There were so many that environmental rules were lifted to allow for more cremations for a time - morgues were full and there were long wait times during the height of Covid winter of 2020. But blame someone trying to prevent them. Masks aren’t perfect but help lower your risk if everyone is wearing them. I don’t get the big deal of wearing one.
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Post by maryannscraps on Aug 25, 2022 20:41:45 GMT
I can’t believe all the people calling Dr. Fauci an idiot. He’s been on the cutting edge of research in public health in the US since the early 80s. In addition, he’s head of the NIAID at the NIH. He’s not part of the CDC. Get your facts straight. Your beliefs do not equal facts. This is exactly why teaching critical thinking in public schools is of the most importance. Otherwise you end up like some of the bozos in this thread.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 25, 2022 20:46:27 GMT
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Post by cindosha on Aug 25, 2022 20:55:06 GMT
I can’t believe all the people calling Dr. Fauci an idiot. He’s been on the cutting edge of research in public health in the US since the early 80s. In addition, he’s head of the NIAID at the NIH. He’s not part of the CDC. Get your facts straight. Your beliefs do not equal facts. This is exactly why teaching critical thinking in public schools is of the most importance. Otherwise you end up like some of the bozos in this thread. Because of him Thousands of people lost their only way to support themselves and their families. Children lost two years of school and will never get that back. Thousands and thousands of people had to die alone because their loved ones couldn’t be there holding their hands when they died. It’s despicable. They went way too far during this pandemic and destroyed thousands and thousands of lives. I am even more astounded that people aren’t more upset with China for unleashing this on the world. If you don’t think Faucci was involved in the Wuhan Lab then I have no hope.
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Post by cindosha on Aug 25, 2022 21:13:45 GMT
The vaccine was available for exactly one month in Trumps presidency. And “regular” people couldn’t get it until 3 months after that. Remember warp speed? I also remember several of FJB’s “people” coughkamalacough, saying that they didn’t trust the vaccine and wouldn’t take it if Trump encouraged it. So it was your people who didn’t support it. Everything that I listed happened because fuchi was such an idiot and hypocrite. She made that comment after it was implied that steps would be skipped to get the vaccine out before it was properly tested. Once it was tested she got it. Trump implied that they were going to bypass a step but the FDA didn’t allow it. It went through all the normal steps but quicker since more money was thrown at it snd we had previous studies to jump off from to make the process faster so the first trial came sooner. I know when Trump first made the comment I was leary to but once it was known that steps weren’t skipped I was all for it. I certainly wouldn’t make my decision one way or another based on any comments from her and can’t imagine anyone else did either. That is flat out bullshit disinformation. Trump implied? Please… Campaign Press Release - FACT: Joe Biden's Anti-Vaccine Rhetoric is Anti-Science and Dangerous for Public Health October 22, 2020 Biden continues to peddle anti-vax conspiracy theories and undermine the public's confidence in the coming coronavirus vaccine. Despite overwhelming testimony from top public health officials that the coronavirus vaccine will be safe and effective, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are spreading fear, fueling anti-vax conspiracy theories, and actively trying to undermine the public's confidence in a vaccine. July 28, 2020: Joe Biden suggests the coronavirus vaccine won't be "real" and may not be "safe." August 6, 2020: Biden says the vaccine is "not likely to go through all the tests that needs to be and the trials that are needed to be done." September 3, 2020: Biden asks "Who's going to take the shot? Are you going to be the first one to say sign me up?" September 6, 2020: Kamala Harris says "I think that's going to be an issue" when asked if she would get an approved coronavirus vaccine. September 7, 2020: Biden said he would take the coronavirus vaccine "only if we knew all of what went into it. When CNN asked Kamala Harris if she would take the vaccine once it's approved, she refused to answer: "Well, I think that's going to be an issue for all of us. I will say that I would not trust Donald Trump." Comments like these, directly contradicting public health officials, have endangered Americans' public health by severely undermining the public's confidence in the coronavirus vaccine.
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 25, 2022 21:19:01 GMT
I can’t believe all the people calling Dr. Fauci an idiot. He’s been on the cutting edge of research in public health in the US since the early 80s. In addition, he’s head of the NIAID at the NIH. He’s not part of the CDC. Get your facts straight. Your beliefs do not equal facts. This is exactly why teaching critical thinking in public schools is of the most importance. Otherwise you end up like some of the bozos in this thread. Because of him Thousands of people lost their only way to support themselves and their families. Children lost two years of school and will never get that back. Thousands and thousands of people had to die alone because their loved ones couldn’t be there holding their hands when they died. It’s despicable. They went way too far during this pandemic and destroyed thousands and thousands of lives. I am even more astounded that people aren’t more upset with China for unleashing this on the world. If you don’t think Faucci was involved in the Wuhan Lab then I have no hope. Do you work in the school system?
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Post by cindosha on Aug 25, 2022 21:25:21 GMT
Because of him Thousands of people lost their only way to support themselves and their families. Children lost two years of school and will never get that back. Thousands and thousands of people had to die alone because their loved ones couldn’t be there holding their hands when they died. It’s despicable. They went way too far during this pandemic and destroyed thousands and thousands of lives. I am even more astounded that people aren’t more upset with China for unleashing this on the world. If you don’t think Faucci was involved in the Wuhan Lab then I have no hope. Do you work in the school system? I did yes. Why does that matter? You think I don’t know that tens of thousands of children didn’t participate in zoom school during the shutdown? And thousands more put little to no effort into zoom school? You don’t have to work in the school system to know that.
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Post by purplebee on Aug 25, 2022 21:26:48 GMT
Fauci didn’t do any of that. He can’t implement or enforce any of the things you are bitching about. You might try educating yourself a little bit if your going to throw a fit about what someone allegedly did or didn’t do. Individual governors drove state responses. But, if it’s Fauci’s fault isn’t Trump even more at fault for all those things — after all he was the President and it’s his administration. He absolutely was responsible for all of that. The shut down and masking was all under his advisement. And NO. Trump wasn't at fault, if he had more control, which he wasn't because the left screamed for fauci to be in charge, none of that would have gone on as long or been as severe as those things were. Who do you think WAS responsible for the shutdown??? It was shutdown under fauci. Gurrrl……you are so misinformed, it’s extraordinary. And, yes, I am quoting the good Dr. Fauci here. (Well, except for the Gurrrl part!)
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Post by Scrapper100 on Aug 25, 2022 21:35:04 GMT
She made that comment after it was implied that steps would be skipped to get the vaccine out before it was properly tested. Once it was tested she got it. Trump implied that they were going to bypass a step but the FDA didn’t allow it. It went through all the normal steps but quicker since more money was thrown at it snd we had previous studies to jump off from to make the process faster so the first trial came sooner. I know when Trump first made the comment I was leary to but once it was known that steps weren’t skipped I was all for it. I certainly wouldn’t make my decision one way or another based on any comments from her and can’t imagine anyone else did either. That is flat out bullshit disinformation. Trump implied? Please… Campaign Press Release - FACT: Joe Biden's Anti-Vaccine Rhetoric is Anti-Science and Dangerous for Public Health October 22, 2020 Biden continues to peddle anti-vax conspiracy theories and undermine the public's confidence in the coming coronavirus vaccine. Despite overwhelming testimony from top public health officials that the coronavirus vaccine will be safe and effective, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are spreading fear, fueling anti-vax conspiracy theories, and actively trying to undermine the public's confidence in a vaccine. July 28, 2020: Joe Biden suggests the coronavirus vaccine won't be "real" and may not be "safe." August 6, 2020: Biden says the vaccine is "not likely to go through all the tests that needs to be and the trials that are needed to be done." September 3, 2020: Biden asks "Who's going to take the shot? Are you going to be the first one to say sign me up?" September 6, 2020: Kamala Harris says "I think that's going to be an issue" when asked if she would get an approved coronavirus vaccine. September 7, 2020: Biden said he would take the coronavirus vaccine "only if we knew all of what went into it. When CNN asked Kamala Harris if she would take the vaccine once it's approved, she refused to answer: "Well, I think that's going to be an issue for all of us. I will say that I would not trust Donald Trump." Comments like these, directly contradicting public health officials, have endangered Americans' public health by severely undermining the public's confidence in the coronavirus vaccine. Their comments were based on what Trump said. Ok he didn’t imply he said it would be released before it went through all three trials. Why would anyone trust a vaccine that didn’t go through the normal trials? Trump said over snd over that it was coming out tested or not. The FDA however didn’t release until it had gone through all the normal trials. I don’t remember what anyone else was saying in 2020 as they hadn’t been voted in yet not that it would have mattered. I wouldn’t take any vaccine based on what a politician said. I wouldn’t trust any politician but would trust those that know snd are responsible for the actual testing of a vaccine. Politicians aren’t drs why would I take medical advice from them?
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Post by refugeepea on Aug 25, 2022 21:36:55 GMT
I can’t believe all the people calling Dr. Fauci an idiot. He’s been on the cutting edge of research in public health in the US since the early 80s. In addition, he’s head of the NIAID at the NIH. He’s not part of the CDC. Get your facts straight. Your beliefs do not equal facts. This is exactly why teaching critical thinking in public schools is of the most importance. Otherwise you end up like some of the bozos in this thread. Because of him Thousands of people lost their only way to support themselves and their families. Children lost two years of school and will never get that back. Thousands and thousands of people had to die alone because their loved ones couldn’t be there holding their hands when they died. It’s despicable. They went way too far during this pandemic and destroyed thousands and thousands of lives. I am even more astounded that people aren’t more upset with China for unleashing this on the world. If you don’t think Faucci was involved in the Wuhan Lab then I have no hope. It started in a fish market. www.abc4.com/coronavirus/u-of-u-research-shows-covid-19-originated-at-seafood-market-not-lab/
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Post by cindosha on Aug 25, 2022 21:37:00 GMT
That is flat out bullshit disinformation. Trump implied? Please… Campaign Press Release - FACT: Joe Biden's Anti-Vaccine Rhetoric is Anti-Science and Dangerous for Public Health October 22, 2020 Biden continues to peddle anti-vax conspiracy theories and undermine the public's confidence in the coming coronavirus vaccine. Despite overwhelming testimony from top public health officials that the coronavirus vaccine will be safe and effective, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are spreading fear, fueling anti-vax conspiracy theories, and actively trying to undermine the public's confidence in a vaccine. July 28, 2020: Joe Biden suggests the coronavirus vaccine won't be "real" and may not be "safe." August 6, 2020: Biden says the vaccine is "not likely to go through all the tests that needs to be and the trials that are needed to be done." September 3, 2020: Biden asks "Who's going to take the shot? Are you going to be the first one to say sign me up?" September 6, 2020: Kamala Harris says "I think that's going to be an issue" when asked if she would get an approved coronavirus vaccine. September 7, 2020: Biden said he would take the coronavirus vaccine "only if we knew all of what went into it. When CNN asked Kamala Harris if she would take the vaccine once it's approved, she refused to answer: "Well, I think that's going to be an issue for all of us. I will say that I would not trust Donald Trump." Comments like these, directly contradicting public health officials, have endangered Americans' public health by severely undermining the public's confidence in the coronavirus vaccine. Their comments were based on what Trump said. Ok he didn’t imply he said it would be released before it went through all three trials. Why would anyone trust a vaccine that didn’t go through the normal trials? Trump said over snd over that it was coming out tested or not. The FDA however didn’t release until it had gone through all the normal trials. I don’t remember what anyone else was saying in 2020 as they hadn’t been voted in yet not that it would have mattered. I wouldn’t take any vaccine based on what a politician said. I wouldn’t trust any politician but would trust those that know snd are responsible for the actual testing of a vaccine. Politicians aren’t drs why would I take medical advice from them? Do you even hear how hypocritical you sound?
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 25, 2022 21:37:05 GMT
Do you work in the school system? I did yes. Why does that matter? You think I don’t know that tens of thousands of children didn’t participate in zoom school during the shutdown? And thousands more put little to no effort into zoom school? You don’t have to work in the school system to know that. Wow. I thought I asked a simple question. Our school system wasn't shut down for more than a few months. That is why I asked. Our kids were back during the next school year. They had a few shut downs in between, but overall most returned. I am currently working with those kids who suffered with learning gaps due to being out (parent decision) or getting sick. I was shocked at how quickly those gaps were filled last year. When you look at graduation rates during a non Covid time, you see many, many kids not putting in any effort even when their bodies are in school. Was it still an awful time? Yes, but no where near the price so many paid with their lives due to a virus that may or may not have a sinister beginning. I tend to get my information on neither left or right wing sources. But just to clarify, you are no longer in the classroom? I ask because I thought kids would have suffered a lot more than I am actually seeing on a day to day basis. Teachers are meeting their kids where they are at and doing an extraordinary job.
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Post by cindosha on Aug 25, 2022 21:38:27 GMT
Because of him Thousands of people lost their only way to support themselves and their families. Children lost two years of school and will never get that back. Thousands and thousands of people had to die alone because their loved ones couldn’t be there holding their hands when they died. It’s despicable. They went way too far during this pandemic and destroyed thousands and thousands of lives. I am even more astounded that people aren’t more upset with China for unleashing this on the world. If you don’t think Faucci was involved in the Wuhan Lab then I have no hope. It started in a fish market. www.abc4.com/coronavirus/u-of-u-research-shows-covid-19-originated-at-seafood-market-not-lab/🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by Scrapper100 on Aug 25, 2022 21:40:47 GMT
Do you work in the school system? I did yes. Why does that matter? You think I don’t know that tens of thousands of children didn’t participate in zoom school during the shutdown? And thousands more put little to no effort into zoom school? You don’t have to work in the school system to know that. I heard that a lot that kids didn’t do everything they were supposed to do especially the first year but by the second year especially since many kids were back to in person that isn’t true. I can only say that my son did everything he was supposed to do his last two years of high school. I made sure of it. Was it ideal no. Was it more work for parents and teachers yes.
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Post by cindosha on Aug 25, 2022 21:44:10 GMT
I did yes. Why does that matter? You think I don’t know that tens of thousands of children didn’t participate in zoom school during the shutdown? And thousands more put little to no effort into zoom school? You don’t have to work in the school system to know that. Wow. I thought I asked a simple question. Our school system wasn't shut down for more than a few months. That is why I asked. Our kids were back during the next school year. They had a few shut downs in between, but overall most returned. I am currently working with those kids who suffered with learning gaps due to being out (parent decision) or getting sick. I was shocked at how quickly those gaps were filled last year. When you look at graduation rates during a non Covid time, you see many, many kids not putting in any effort even when their bodies are in school. Was it still an awful time? Yes, but no where near the price so many paid with their lives due to a virus that may or may not have a sinister beginning. I tend to get my information on neither left or right wing sources. But just to clarify, you are no longer in the classroom? I ask because I thought kids would have suffered a lot more than I am actually seeing on a day to day basis. Teachers are meeting their kids where they are at and doing an extraordinary job. Bottom line is thousands and thousands and thousands of children suffered because they weren’t allowed to go to school. It’s been proven that children are the least likely to get Covid, pass Covid and die from Covid. As for teachers meeting their kids where they are at, that should never have to have even been an issue.
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 25, 2022 21:44:12 GMT
I can’t believe all the people calling Dr. Fauci an idiot. He’s been on the cutting edge of research in public health in the US since the early 80s. In addition, he’s head of the NIAID at the NIH. He’s not part of the CDC. Get your facts straight. Your beliefs do not equal facts. This is exactly why teaching critical thinking in public schools is of the most importance. Otherwise you end up like some of the bozos in this thread. Because of him Thousands of people lost their only way to support themselves and their families. Children lost two years of school and will never get that back. Thousands and thousands of people had to die alone because their loved ones couldn’t be there holding their hands when they died. It’s despicable. They went way too far during this pandemic and destroyed thousands and thousands of lives. I am even more astounded that people aren’t more upset with China for unleashing this on the world. If you don’t think Faucci was involved in the Wuhan Lab then I have no hope. “They went way too far during the pandemic “ and yet one has to ask the question how many more Americans then the 1.04 million that have died would have died without the mandates that you claim went too far? What’s an acceptable number to you? 2 million? 3 million? How many Americans dying is acceptable to you because you think “they went too far” and they should have had less mandates? Give us a number. By the way the latest for origin of the virus was from animals in a market place. And you would be pretty naive if you don’t think whatever you think is going on in that lab in China isn’t going on in a lab here in the United States.
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 25, 2022 21:47:32 GMT
I did yes. Why does that matter? You think I don’t know that tens of thousands of children didn’t participate in zoom school during the shutdown? And thousands more put little to no effort into zoom school? You don’t have to work in the school system to know that. I heard that a lot that kids didn’t do everything they were supposed to do especially the first year but by the second year especially since many kids were back to in person that isn’t true. I can only say that my son did everything he was supposed to do his last two years of high school. I made sure of it. Was it ideal no. Was it more work for parents and teachers yes. I've been spending my last week testing kids in reading and they are almost all (percentage wise) where they would have been at the beginning of the year for their grade level (pre-pandemic). It is absolutely amazing. I know some parents were stressed and frustrated, okay probably all stressed and frustrated, but these kids made huge gains last year. I remember reading a piece from a man who lived during a 7 year war in his country as a student. He was currently a dr. and talked about how resilient kids are.
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 25, 2022 21:51:00 GMT
Wow. I thought I asked a simple question. Our school system wasn't shut down for more than a few months. That is why I asked. Our kids were back during the next school year. They had a few shut downs in between, but overall most returned. I am currently working with those kids who suffered with learning gaps due to being out (parent decision) or getting sick. I was shocked at how quickly those gaps were filled last year. When you look at graduation rates during a non Covid time, you see many, many kids not putting in any effort even when their bodies are in school. Was it still an awful time? Yes, but no where near the price so many paid with their lives due to a virus that may or may not have a sinister beginning. I tend to get my information on neither left or right wing sources. But just to clarify, you are no longer in the classroom? I ask because I thought kids would have suffered a lot more than I am actually seeing on a day to day basis. Teachers are meeting their kids where they are at and doing an extraordinary job. Bottom line is thousands and thousands and thousands of children suffered because they weren’t allowed to go to school. It’s been proven that children are the least likely to get Covid, pass Covid and die from Covid. As for teachers meeting their kids where they are at, that should never have to have even been an issue. It was a pandemic. It was awful. Now we are back and kids are thriving and growing. Bottom line you can't blame the virus on Fauci or even Trump. You can blame the increase of deaths on Trump's ability to call it a hoax though.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 25, 2022 22:08:17 GMT
How's this? The Trump administration pressured the Food and Drug Administration to authorize the first COVID-19 vaccines and unproven treatments for political purposes, according to a new report issued Democrats on the House select subcommittee on the coronavirus crisis. Senior administration officials fought for the reauthorization of hydroxychloroquine as a treatment, despite studies finding it was ineffective, and tried to block the FDA from collecting additional safety data for vaccines in a rush to get them out before the 2020 election, reported Politico. The Select Subcommittee’s findings that Trump White House officials deliberately and repeatedly sought to bend FDA’s scientific work on coronavirus treatments and vaccines to the White House’s political will are yet another example of how the prior Administration prioritized politics over public health,” said House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn (D-SC), who also chairs the subcommittee. “These assaults on our nation’s public health institutions undermined the nation’s coronavirus response."*** Former trade adviser Peter Navarro played a central role in these efforts, along with Steven Hatfill, an adjunct virology professor at George Washington University, and the report found they tried to discredit prominent health officials -- including Anthony Fauci, whose email use the pair wanted to investigate just before the election to benefit Donald Trump.*** The report found evidence that Navarro and Hatfill had used a private email server for federal communications, and the Department of Justice has sued Navarro to turn over other emails sent from his personal account related to presidential business.www.rawstory.com/trump-2657925362/
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Post by cindosha on Aug 25, 2022 22:48:02 GMT
How's this? The Trump administration pressured the Food and Drug Administration to authorize the first COVID-19 vaccines and unproven treatments for political purposes, according to a new report issued Democrats on the House select subcommittee on the coronavirus crisis. Senior administration officials fought for the reauthorization of hydroxychloroquine as a treatment, despite studies finding it was ineffective, and tried to block the FDA from collecting additional safety data for vaccines in a rush to get them out before the 2020 election, reported Politico. The Select Subcommittee’s findings that Trump White House officials deliberately and repeatedly sought to bend FDA’s scientific work on coronavirus treatments and vaccines to the White House’s political will are yet another example of how the prior Administration prioritized politics over public health,” said House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn (D-SC), who also chairs the subcommittee. “These assaults on our nation’s public health institutions undermined the nation’s coronavirus response."*** Former trade adviser Peter Navarro played a central role in these efforts, along with Steven Hatfill, an adjunct virology professor at George Washington University, and the report found they tried to discredit prominent health officials -- including Anthony Fauci, whose email use the pair wanted to investigate just before the election to benefit Donald Trump.*** The report found evidence that Navarro and Hatfill had used a private email server for federal communications, and the Department of Justice has sued Navarro to turn over other emails sent from his personal account related to presidential business.www.rawstory.com/trump-2657925362/What about it? Left leaning opinions and hype.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 25, 2022 22:48:07 GMT
I can’t believe all the people calling Dr. Fauci an idiot. He’s been on the cutting edge of research in public health in the US since the early 80s. In addition, he’s head of the NIAID at the NIH. He’s not part of the CDC. Get your facts straight. Your beliefs do not equal facts. This is exactly why teaching critical thinking in public schools is of the most importance. Otherwise you end up like some of the bozos in this thread. Because of him Thousands of people lost their only way to support themselves and their families. Children lost two years of school and will never get that back. Thousands and thousands of people had to die alone because their loved ones couldn’t be there holding their hands when they died. It’s despicable. They went way too far during this pandemic and destroyed thousands and thousands of lives. I am even more astounded that people aren’t more upset with China for unleashing this on the world. If you don’t think Faucci was involved in the Wuhan Lab then I have no hope. No, not because of Dr. Fauci. People lost jobs and students lost months, not years, in school because of a pandemic. And the conspiracy theory that Dr Fauci and the Wuhan lab were involved is just that, a conspiracy theory.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 25, 2022 22:52:54 GMT
Wow. I thought I asked a simple question. Our school system wasn't shut down for more than a few months. That is why I asked. Our kids were back during the next school year. They had a few shut downs in between, but overall most returned. I am currently working with those kids who suffered with learning gaps due to being out (parent decision) or getting sick. I was shocked at how quickly those gaps were filled last year. When you look at graduation rates during a non Covid time, you see many, many kids not putting in any effort even when their bodies are in school. Was it still an awful time? Yes, but no where near the price so many paid with their lives due to a virus that may or may not have a sinister beginning. I tend to get my information on neither left or right wing sources. But just to clarify, you are no longer in the classroom? I ask because I thought kids would have suffered a lot more than I am actually seeing on a day to day basis. Teachers are meeting their kids where they are at and doing an extraordinary job. Bottom line is thousands and thousands and thousands of children suffered because they weren’t allowed to go to school. It’s been proven that children are the least likely to get Covid, pass Covid and die from Covid. As for teachers meeting their kids where they are at, that should never have to have even been an issue. I don't know why I'm bothering but Dr. Fauci didn't stop children from going to school. Governors or individual school boards and administrators made those decisions. They made those decisions based on the information available at the time.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 25, 2022 22:54:13 GMT
What about it? Left leaning opinions and hype.
Congressional report on record for posterity,!
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