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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2022 14:20:09 GMT
I am Lettuce I raised the issue of board bullying a few days ago and how I thought it was a problem not just for me but other peas too. I have to return ( following deletion ) to address Dottyscrapper s comments and stick up for my personal reputation which she has discredited and the difficulties that families with an illness called ME/CFS experience. My family has been profoundly affected with severe disability lasting years with ME / CFS . ME = Myalgic Encephalomyelitis CFS = Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. Her comments were expressed on this recent thread which contains my views on general bullying behaviour on the 2 peas board which began a page or few before. 2peasrefugees.boards.net/thread/131560/today-political-news-5?page=33Dotty has said she makes no apology for “correcting” my information on ME / CFS. Dotty used the word “misinformation” and applied it to my posts regarding ME/CFS. The thing is that my information (not hers) has stood the test of time as can be shown in high level official changes subsequent to our disagreement. I posted information regarding patient harm and flawed medical research. At that time Dotty expressed opposition with many of my views at the time last year. She mentioned them again in her post yesterday, so I raise this in my response to her. Months after I posted about things that Dotty disagreed with a significant change occurred . Monumental in fact .This change was within the singular top organisation in the UK that guides doctors within the National Health Service. The changes show without question that my views were accurate as all health advice to patients has done a complete U turn. The official health guidelines from the National Institute of Health and Care Excellence ( NICE ) were changed to reflect this. - They acknowledged the research to be of low quality - They acknowledged patient harm - They changed the health guidelines to reflect this. - They changed treatment practice to protect patients. If Dotty wishes to remain unapologetic and maintain her false assumption of “misinformation “ that is her choice. The new guidelines can be found here NG206 published 29 October 2021 www.nice.org.uk/guidance/ng206Like I have said differences of opinion are normal and Dotty is entitled to her views as am I. Dotty’s criticisms actually inspired me to create some threads which thankfully she did not comment on. It was a marathon containing the controversial history of ME/ CFS , current changes and live breakthroughs . I posted details of those live breakthroughs as they occurred days BEFORE they were covered in UK and international news media. They can be found in the thread below. 2peasrefugees.boards.net/thread/122944/long-covid-disability-insurance-clinicsA final thread that I set up a few days ago can be found here regarding the patchy implementation of the new health guidelines in UK clinics. 2peasrefugees.boards.net/thread/132453/update-health-clinics-patients-cfsI will possibly be deleting again after this . If I do it is with regret because there are good people on this board that I will miss. In that other thread I have tried to give suggestions to protect peas that are going through hard times to prevent them from being subjected to harsh comments that could hurt them more than casual readers. I also stated that I thought bullying was deterring people. I referred to a couple of threads where I thought 2 members of the peas were mistreated. Sometimes I feel that the treatment of people on this board can exceed reasonable and acceptable practice. ( Don’t confuse this with my own feelings of hurt , I understand that people feel I was too sensitive ) I think that board bullying in general and other members treatment would be worthy of serious thought. Blocking does not stop the behaviour. Returning to ME/CFS I want to leave this here . Sean O’Neills daughter sadly died from ME/CFS last year aged 27. A coroners inquest is scheduled for next month. I would like to extend my condolences to his family. Sean O’Neill is the senior writer of The Times, his article is behind a paywall writing about a cross party group recently set up by the former Government Health Secretary Sajid Javid addressing the neglect and poor research of ME/CFS and their plans to change it. Families with ME / CFS deserve better.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 24, 2022 14:59:49 GMT
Lettuce, I am sorry that you felt bullied. In the case of sassy angel several months ago, she did not bully you or say many of the things you accused her of. Even pixiechick who disagrees with many on the board over political issues, said that you were misreading or misinterpreting what sassy angel posted. You also accused Dotty of something that she didn’t say. It was more than your paraphrasing wasn’t exact, as you claimed. Your paraphrasing was completely wrong. Many peas tried then and now to explain both situations to you. I’m sorry you can’t see that.
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pinklady
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Post by pinklady on Jul 24, 2022 15:06:37 GMT
Seriously, you’re doing this again? This was already hashed out and you are wrong and multiple people told you so very nicely. I doubt you are going to get very nice treatment now. Just stop your shit already.
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Post by monklady123 on Jul 24, 2022 15:08:24 GMT
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Post by cindosha on Jul 24, 2022 15:14:13 GMT
Lettuce, I am sorry that you felt bullied. In the case of sassy angel several months ago, she did not bully you or say many of the things you accused her of. Even pixiechick who disagrees with many on the board over political issues, said that you were misreading or misinterpreting what sassy angel posted. You also accused Dotty of something that she didn’t say. It was more than your paraphrasing wasn’t exact, as you claimed. Your paraphrasing was completely wrong. Many peas tried then and now to explain both situations to you. I’m sorry you can’t see that. This is what she is talking about. It’s ALWAYS an argument with you and others. A simple “I’m sorry” you feel this way would suffice. Period.
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jul 24, 2022 15:15:24 GMT
i didn't see the thread you are talking about, but I was happy to see you back and I am sorry to see you go.
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lesley
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Post by lesley on Jul 24, 2022 15:19:21 GMT
Sincerely Lettuce, what do you believe you will achieve from this thread?
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 24, 2022 15:42:26 GMT
Can someone do a tl:Dr recap?
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pinklady
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Post by pinklady on Jul 24, 2022 15:51:27 GMT
Can someone do a tl:Dr recap? The OP lacks reading comprehension which leads her to believe people are mean to her. The last blow up, EVERY pea on the thread nicely told her she was wrong and she double down. She clearly has issues and needs to walk away from this board.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jul 24, 2022 15:56:57 GMT
Can someone do a tl:Dr recap? I'll try - old covid mandate thread the OP discussed how while she supported mask wearing/vaccines - didn't support mandates. Avalanche of criticism ensures, and during debate about medical vulnerable OP shares that she has medically vulnerable child(ren). This led to post by SassyAngel about how this made no sense and she should want mandates as those who weren't wearing masks/getting vaccinated didn't care about whether her medically vulnerable children lived or died. OP took it EXTREMELY personally. Pages and pages and pages of peas saying Sassy never said SHE didn't care whether her children lived or died. It was truly one of those situations where someone was already so sensitive and upset about their personal situation, the post pointing out other people's callousness just hit her hard. And then she had unfortunately 6+ pages of people telling her she was an idiot. I either didn't participate or don't recall details on medical debate with @dottyscrapper - so won't try and recap. if you want to read the entirety of old thread, somewhere around page 5 things really went south: 2peasrefugees.boards.net/thread/129026/love-effing-holy-quit-arguing that was apparently the recap of the comment that was originally part of the Ottawa trucker thread: 2peasrefugees.boards.net/thread/128480/truckers-protest-ottawa-out-hand - no clue when in the 46 pages the exchange happened, but just posting for anyone who wants to entire backstory.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 24, 2022 15:58:12 GMT
Lettuce, I am sorry that you felt bullied. In the case of sassy angel several months ago, she did not bully you or say many of the things you accused her of. Even pixiechick who disagrees with many on the board over political issues, said that you were misreading or misinterpreting what sassy angel posted. You also accused Dotty of something that she didn’t say. It was more than your paraphrasing wasn’t exact, as you claimed. Your paraphrasing was completely wrong. Many peas tried then and now to explain both situations to you. I’m sorry you can’t see that. This is what she is talking about. It’s ALWAYS an argument with you and others. A simple “I’m sorry” you feel this way would suffice. Period. Repeatedly accusing others of something they didn’t do could also be considered a form of bullying. Unfortunately, Lettuce keeps repeating accusations that simply aren’t true. In the case of sassy angel, the peas almost unanimously agreed she didn’t say what lettuce accused her of. Regrettably, sassy angel left the board and is no longer here to stand up for herself. Many peas simply apologized to lettuce when she posted that she was bullied back then. In addition, many people very kindly, gently and patiently tried to explain to lettuce that she was misreading and misunderstanding. I’m sorry that the perspective of time didn’t help. I’ve said I’m sorry multiple times to lettuce on multiple threads, I am genuinely sorry that she felt bullied. Ironically, cindosha, you are one of the rudest, most callous posters and in no position to judge or lecture others. Some of the comments sassy angel was referring to, part of the back story, are your comments refusing to wear a mask. Jan 11, 2022 at 8:37pm cindosha said: I don’t care what everyone else feels. I’m not sure where you read that I was deciding how everyone feels. I’m sick of having nonstop covid shoved in my face everywhere I go and in everything I do. I’m going to live my life the way I want to and I don’t give two craps what anyone else thinks about that. So Alexandria Ocasio Cortez has Covid Jan 11, 2022 at 10:31pm cindosha said: I’ve gotten the fucking vax and as such, I will no longer mask. It’s not effective and I feel like I’m suffocating in one. Too bad.
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Post by elaine on Jul 24, 2022 17:05:34 GMT
This is what she is talking about. It’s ALWAYS an argument with you and others. A simple “I’m sorry” you feel this way would suffice. Period. Repeatedly accusing others of something they didn’t do could also be considered a form of bullying. Unfortunately, Lettuce keeps repeating accusations that simply aren’t true. In the case of sassy angel, the peas almost unanimously agreed she didn’t say what lettuce accused her of. Regrettably, sassy angel left the board and is no longer here to stand up for herself. Many peas simply apologized to lettuce when she posted that she was bullied back then. In addition, many people very kindly, gently and patiently tried to explain to lettuce that she was misreading and misunderstanding. I’m sorry that the perspective of time didn’t help. I’ve said I’m sorry multiple times to lettuce on multiple threads, I am genuinely sorry that she felt bullied. Ironically, cindosha, you are one of the rudest, most callous posters and in no position to judge or lecture others. One of the comments sassy angel was referring to, part of the back story, is your comment that you didn’t care if other people lived or died. Yes. cindosha, you of all people are a piece of work. Did you forget that a large portion of what lettuce accused someone else of saying was actually what you said? Very interesting that you never corrected her mis-attribution on that thread, since Lettuce’s feelings are apparently important to you now. And, for the record, people disagreeing with others or trying to correct misunderstandings , even vehemently, on a message board in no way constitutes bullying. I am sick of the latest right wing push to interpret any disagreement as “bullying” and “persecution.” It reframes the whole perception of what true bullying and persecution are and trivializes them, doing a disservice to those that are actually bullied or persecuted by making others think it isn’t really “that bad.” When people disagree with you (general you) on a message board, without threatening bodily harm or posting personal information or pictures or publicly lying about your actions or repeatedly posting simply with the intent to harm you in some way, you may be picked on, piled on, made to feel angry/hurt/embarrassed, but you weren’t bullied. No one repeatedly posted with the intent to harm @lettuce. She wasn’t bullied. I’m certain she felt piled on, but she wasn’t bullied. Bullying is not something that is simply in the eyes of the beholder. Now, if she repeatedly posts things - like this thread - with the intent to socially harm @dottyscrapper, for example, that would meet the definition of bullying - her bullying someone else. @lettuce, I am sorry that you are still angry and not in a place where you can more objectively read the threads where you misunderstood what people were saying.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 24, 2022 18:01:35 GMT
Repeatedly accusing others of something they didn’t do could also be considered a form of bullying. Unfortunately, Lettuce keeps repeating accusations that simply aren’t true. In the case of sassy angel, the peas almost unanimously agreed she didn’t say what lettuce accused her of. Regrettably, sassy angel left the board and is no longer here to stand up for herself. Many peas simply apologized to lettuce when she posted that she was bullied back then. In addition, many people very kindly, gently and patiently tried to explain to lettuce that she was misreading and misunderstanding. I’m sorry that the perspective of time didn’t help. I’ve said I’m sorry multiple times to lettuce on multiple threads, I am genuinely sorry that she felt bullied. Ironically, cindosha, you are one of the rudest, most callous posters and in no position to judge or lecture others. One of the comments sassy angel was referring to, part of the back story, is your comment that you didn’t care if other people lived or died. Yes. cindosha, you of all people are a piece of work. Did you forget that a large portion of what lettuce accused someone else of saying was actually what you said? Very interesting that you never corrected her mis-attribution on that thread, since Lettuce’s feelings are apparently important to you now. And, for the record, people disagreeing with others or trying to correct misunderstandings , even vehemently, on a message board in no way constitutes bullying. I am sick of the latest right wing push to interpret any disagreement as “bullying” and “persecution.” It reframes the whole perception of what true bullying and persecution are and trivializes them, doing a disservice to those that are actually bullied or persecuted by making others think it isn’t really “that bad.” When people disagree with you (general you) on a message board, without threatening bodily harm or posting personal information or pictures or publicly lying about your actions or repeatedly posting simply with the intent to harm you in some way, you may be picked on, piled on, made to feel angry/hurt/embarrassed, but you weren’t bullied. No one repeatedly posted with the intent to harm @lettuce. She wasn’t bullied. I’m certain she felt piled on, but she wasn’t bullied. Bullying is not something that is simply in the eyes of the beholder. Now, if she repeatedly posts things - like this thread - with the intent to socially harm @dottyscrapper, for example, that would meet the definition of bullying - her bullying someone else. @lettuce, I am sorry that you are still angry and not in a place where you can more objectively read the threads where you misunderstood what people were saying. This. People were simply trying to correct her misreading of Sassy’s post. That sort of thing just happens here every so often. I did not see, or could not find Dotty’s post that was referenced, so am not sure what that was all about. I will say that from my reading, Dotty is an opinionated(who isn’t? 😁) but fair Pea. She is not mean. Lettuce, I am sorry that you are so obviously upset, but I do not see any *there* there.
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Post by kibblesandbits on Jul 24, 2022 18:09:28 GMT
Repeatedly accusing others of something they didn’t do could also be considered a form of bullying. Unfortunately, Lettuce keeps repeating accusations that simply aren’t true. In the case of sassy angel, the peas almost unanimously agreed she didn’t say what lettuce accused her of. Regrettably, sassy angel left the board and is no longer here to stand up for herself. Many peas simply apologized to lettuce when she posted that she was bullied back then. In addition, many people very kindly, gently and patiently tried to explain to lettuce that she was misreading and misunderstanding. I’m sorry that the perspective of time didn’t help. I’ve said I’m sorry multiple times to lettuce on multiple threads, I am genuinely sorry that she felt bullied. Ironically, cindosha, you are one of the rudest, most callous posters and in no position to judge or lecture others. One of the comments sassy angel was referring to, part of the back story, is your comment that you didn’t care if other people lived or died. Yes. cindosha , you of all people are a piece of work. Did you forget that a large portion of what lettuce accused someone else of saying was actually what you said? Very interesting that you never corrected her mis-attribution on that thread, since Lettuce’s feelings are apparently important to you now. And, for the record, people disagreeing with others or trying to correct misunderstandings , even vehemently, on a message board in no way constitutes bullying. I am sick of the latest right wing push to interpret any disagreement as “bullying” and “persecution.” It reframes the whole perception of what true bullying and persecution are and trivializes them, doing a disservice to those that are actually bullied or persecuted by making others think it isn’t really “that bad.” When people disagree with you (general you) on a message board, without threatening bodily harm or posting personal information or pictures or publicly lying about your actions or repeatedly posting simply with the intent to harm you in some way, you may be picked on, piled on, made to feel angry/hurt/embarrassed, but you weren’t bullied. No one repeatedly posted with the intent to harm @lettuce . She wasn’t bullied. I’m certain she felt piled on, but she wasn’t bullied. Bullying is not something that is simply in the eyes of the beholder. Now, if she repeatedly posts things - like this thread - with the intent to socially harm @dottyscrapper , for example, that would meet the definition of bullying - her bullying someone else. @lettuce , I am sorry that you are still angry and not in a place where you can more objectively read the threads where you misunderstood what people were saying. Courteously - isn't "piled on" here effectively bullying? It's not like prior interactions are ever forgotten. We've all seen where responses are written with prior activity in mind. It seems that there's a Scarlet Letter attached to lots of posters that can never be removed. And that, in fact, is bullying.
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Post by pjaye on Jul 24, 2022 18:17:03 GMT
And that, in fact, is bullying. No it isn't in fact, a fact. Nor it anything you describe "bullying" Disagreeing, disbelieving, & arguing with are all not bullying.
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Post by kibblesandbits on Jul 24, 2022 18:21:43 GMT
And that, in fact, is bullying. No it isn't in fact, a fact. Nor it anything you describe "bullying" Disagreeing, disbelieving, & arguing with are all not bullying. Well, what would you call it, then?
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Post by elaine on Jul 24, 2022 18:24:02 GMT
Yes. cindosha , you of all people are a piece of work. Did you forget that a large portion of what lettuce accused someone else of saying was actually what you said? Very interesting that you never corrected her mis-attribution on that thread, since Lettuce’s feelings are apparently important to you now. And, for the record, people disagreeing with others or trying to correct misunderstandings , even vehemently, on a message board in no way constitutes bullying. I am sick of the latest right wing push to interpret any disagreement as “bullying” and “persecution.” It reframes the whole perception of what true bullying and persecution are and trivializes them, doing a disservice to those that are actually bullied or persecuted by making others think it isn’t really “that bad.” When people disagree with you (general you) on a message board, without threatening bodily harm or posting personal information or pictures or publicly lying about your actions or repeatedly posting simply with the intent to harm you in some way, you may be picked on, piled on, made to feel angry/hurt/embarrassed, but you weren’t bullied. No one repeatedly posted with the intent to harm @lettuce . She wasn’t bullied. I’m certain she felt piled on, but she wasn’t bullied. Bullying is not something that is simply in the eyes of the beholder. Now, if she repeatedly posts things - like this thread - with the intent to socially harm @dottyscrapper , for example, that would meet the definition of bullying - her bullying someone else. @lettuce , I am sorry that you are still angry and not in a place where you can more objectively read the threads where you misunderstood what people were saying. Courteously - isn't "piled on" here effectively bullying? It's not like prior interactions are ever forgotten. We've all seen where responses are written with prior activity in mind. It seems that there's a Scarlet Letter attached to lots of posters that can never be removed. And that, in fact, is bullying. No, that isn't bullying. Please look up the definition of bullying. People forming lasting negative emotions/perceptions about someone's character on a message board is not bullying. There are a few peas on this thread who have attached a Scarlet Letter to me based on past interactions. While I have had some particularly nasty interactions with them at different points in time, I would never claim that I was bullied by any of them.
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Post by artbabe on Jul 24, 2022 18:28:39 GMT
Oh my gosh, lettuce, it must be so exhausting to be you.
You misinterpret everything in order to make yourself the victim. Your comprehension problem is pretty interesting. I don't understand why there isn't any self-reflection.
Sometimes the board has pile ons, sometimes people aren't nice. It is the nature of the thing. I don't have a problem with it- it is to be expected when we interact with people through text- a lot of nuance is lost. And some people just aren't nice people but that is the way the board (and world) is.
If your experience here is bad, then no longer have that experience. I think you are totally misinterpreting everything but I'm not in your head. I enjoy it here so I stay. If I stopped enjoying it I would leave.
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Post by busy on Jul 24, 2022 18:31:04 GMT
Yes. cindosha , you of all people are a piece of work. Did you forget that a large portion of what lettuce accused someone else of saying was actually what you said? Very interesting that you never corrected her mis-attribution on that thread, since Lettuce’s feelings are apparently important to you now. And, for the record, people disagreeing with others or trying to correct misunderstandings , even vehemently, on a message board in no way constitutes bullying. I am sick of the latest right wing push to interpret any disagreement as “bullying” and “persecution.” It reframes the whole perception of what true bullying and persecution are and trivializes them, doing a disservice to those that are actually bullied or persecuted by making others think it isn’t really “that bad.” When people disagree with you (general you) on a message board, without threatening bodily harm or posting personal information or pictures or publicly lying about your actions or repeatedly posting simply with the intent to harm you in some way, you may be picked on, piled on, made to feel angry/hurt/embarrassed, but you weren’t bullied. No one repeatedly posted with the intent to harm @lettuce . She wasn’t bullied. I’m certain she felt piled on, but she wasn’t bullied. Bullying is not something that is simply in the eyes of the beholder. Now, if she repeatedly posts things - like this thread - with the intent to socially harm @dottyscrapper , for example, that would meet the definition of bullying - her bullying someone else. @lettuce , I am sorry that you are still angry and not in a place where you can more objectively read the threads where you misunderstood what people were saying. Courteously - isn't "piled on" here effectively bullying? It's not like prior interactions are ever forgotten. We've all seen where responses are written with prior activity in mind. It seems that there's a Scarlet Letter attached to lots of posters that can never be removed. And that, in fact, is bullying. Some people here describe most people on a thread disagreeing with the OP as "piling on," even if everyone is being polite. That's not bullying. It can take a turn to bullying-type behavior if people are getting rude, sarcastic, personal jabs, etc. It's also not bullying to have to live with the consequences of one's past actions. It *can* be, if people approach it in certain petty and mean ways, but in most cases, it's just acknowledging fact and providing context.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jul 24, 2022 18:44:40 GMT
FYI a digital pile on is specifically listed as a cyberbullying tactic: www.canr.msu.edu/news/cyberbullying_involves_many_kinds_of_hurtful_tacticsWhen the "discussion" devolves from clarifying/informing or even arguing into posts specifically to insult, demean or hurt the other person - it IS a form of bullying. Do all peas do it - no. I think actually many peas aren't even aware of what's happening during some pile ons as they may have many repeat offenders on block or scroll over them as their contributions aren't useful. They're posting simply to insult and demean another person.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 24, 2022 18:59:20 GMT
Aside from the comments about reading comprehension, most of the posts in the other thread directed to lettuce were not deliberately insulting, demeaning or hurtful, in my opinion. The majority of the comments were attempts to clarify, give additional information, provide context or offer her a different perspective.
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Post by librarylady on Jul 24, 2022 19:06:06 GMT
There is a setting on this board where a member can block others, ignore others or make posts by someone invisible. I recommend those settings for those who a pea finds irritating, annoying or bullying.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 24, 2022 19:09:51 GMT
The digital pile on while perhaps regretful, did not include any of these things www.stopbullying.gov/cyberbullying/cyberbullying-tacticsCyberbullying Tactics It is important to understand how children are cyberbullied so it can be easily recognized and action can be taken. Some of the most common cyberbullying tactics include: Posting comments or rumors about someone online that are mean, hurtful, or embarrassing. Threatening to hurt someone or telling them to kill themselves. Posting a mean or hurtful picture or video. Pretending to be someone else online in order to solicit or post personal or false information about someone else. Posting mean or hateful names, comments, or content about any race, religion, ethnicity, or other personal characteristics online. Creating a mean or hurtful webpage about someone. Doxing, an abbreviated form of the word documents, is a form of online harassment used to exact revenge and to threaten and destroy the privacy of individuals by making their personal information public, including addresses, social security, credit card and phone numbers, links to social media accounts, and other private data.
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Post by Skellinton on Jul 24, 2022 19:14:26 GMT
Aside from the comments about reading comprehension, most of the posts in the other thread directed to lettuce were not deliberately insulting, demeaning or hurtful, in my opinion. The majority of the comments were attempts to clarify, give additional information, provide context or offer her a different perspective. And lettuce KEPT insisting that Sassyangel said Sassyangel didn't care if Lettuce's family died. She kept deliberately spreading lies about another member despite everyone trying to tell her she was misinterpreting what sassyangel said. I completely agree that no one was being demeaning or rude to Lettuce. And the fact that she keeps bringing it up without ever acknowledging that what she said was not true is very frustrating.
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Post by uksue on Jul 24, 2022 19:17:53 GMT
As the mother of a child with autism who was relentlessly bullied all the way through school for 'being weird' I really take issue with the way the word is misused to cover any situation where an adult feels people are disagreeing with them- especially when that person seems to be deliberately misunderstanding words and or intention in order to prove their allegation.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 24, 2022 19:26:40 GMT
More about a pile on. Again, I don’t think anything in the other thread reached the level of bullying. There was no ringleader and the majority of the posts were kind and not belittling. www.amazon.com/Parents-Guide-Digital-Pile-Cyberslammed-ebook/dp/B00C0YDYAC/Internet Tactics: Digital Pile On Digital Pile On: When everyone jumps on top of one unfortunate soul, they “pile on.” —Urban Dictionary This relational aggression tactic is when a group, led by a ringleader, bullies an individual in an online social setting such as a chat forum. Here, the bully sees an opportunity to belittle the target while obtaining “safety in numbers.” The situation escalates when bystanders provide the bully with encouragement and support.
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Post by cindosha on Jul 24, 2022 19:30:35 GMT
This is what she is talking about. It’s ALWAYS an argument with you and others. A simple “I’m sorry” you feel this way would suffice. Period. Repeatedly accusing others of something they didn’t do could also be considered a form of bullying. Unfortunately, Lettuce keeps repeating accusations that simply aren’t true. In the case of sassy angel, the peas almost unanimously agreed she didn’t say what lettuce accused her of. Regrettably, sassy angel left the board and is no longer here to stand up for herself. Many peas simply apologized to lettuce when she posted that she was bullied back then. In addition, many people very kindly, gently and patiently tried to explain to lettuce that she was misreading and misunderstanding. I’m sorry that the perspective of time didn’t help. I’ve said I’m sorry multiple times to lettuce on multiple threads, I am genuinely sorry that she felt bullied. Ironically, cindosha, you are one of the rudest, most callous posters and in no position to judge or lecture others. Some of the comments sassy angel was referring to, part of the back story, are your comments refusing to wear a mask. Jan 11, 2022 at 8:37pm cindosha said: I don’t care what everyone else feels. I’m not sure where you read that I was deciding how everyone feels. I’m sick of having nonstop covid shoved in my face everywhere I go and in everything I do. I’m going to live my life the way I want to and I don’t give two craps what anyone else thinks about that. So Alexandria Ocasio Cortez has Covid Jan 11, 2022 at 10:31pm cindosha said: I’ve gotten the fucking vax and as such, I will no longer mask. It’s not effective and I feel like I’m suffocating in one. Too bad. Yes, my opinion is that if you’re healthy you do not need to wear a mask. If you are sickly or immune compromised or you’re afraid of getting Covid, then wear a mask. Also I was and am absolutely against forced vaccinations for people. That’s my opinion if people don’t like it that’s too bad. It’s been proven over and over with every single person who has gotten Covid who is vaccinated boosted and masked that vaccinations boosts and masks don’t prevent people from getting Covid. Case in point? Number 46. I stand by what I say. I will not wear a mask again and I will not get any more vaccinations or boosters.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 24, 2022 19:31:00 GMT
And why did OP find it necessary to YELL at us on her subject line?
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Post by cindosha on Jul 24, 2022 19:35:37 GMT
Repeatedly accusing others of something they didn’t do could also be considered a form of bullying. Unfortunately, Lettuce keeps repeating accusations that simply aren’t true. In the case of sassy angel, the peas almost unanimously agreed she didn’t say what lettuce accused her of. Regrettably, sassy angel left the board and is no longer here to stand up for herself. Many peas simply apologized to lettuce when she posted that she was bullied back then. In addition, many people very kindly, gently and patiently tried to explain to lettuce that she was misreading and misunderstanding. I’m sorry that the perspective of time didn’t help. I’ve said I’m sorry multiple times to lettuce on multiple threads, I am genuinely sorry that she felt bullied. Ironically, cindosha, you are one of the rudest, most callous posters and in no position to judge or lecture others. Some of the comments sassy angel was referring to, part of the back story, are your comments refusing to wear a mask. Jan 11, 2022 at 8:37pm cindosha said: I don’t care what everyone else feels. I’m not sure where you read that I was deciding how everyone feels. I’m sick of having nonstop covid shoved in my face everywhere I go and in everything I do. I’m going to live my life the way I want to and I don’t give two craps what anyone else thinks about that. So Alexandria Ocasio Cortez has Covid Jan 11, 2022 at 10:31pm cindosha said: I’ve gotten the fucking vax and as such, I will no longer mask. It’s not effective and I feel like I’m suffocating in one. Too bad. Yes, my opinion is that if you’re healthy you do not need to wear a mask. If you are sickly or immune compromised or you’re afraid of getting Covid, then wear a mask. Also I was and am absolutely against forced vaccinations for people. That’s my opinion if people don’t like it that’s too bad. It’s been proven over and over with every single person who has gotten Covid who is vaccinated boosted and masked that vaccinations boosts and masks don’t prevent people from getting Covid. Case in point? Number 46. I stand by what I say. I will not wear a mask again and I will not get any more vaccinations or boosters. ***no position to judge or lecture others*** I haven’t lectured or judged anyone. I’ve stated my opinions.
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 24, 2022 19:37:07 GMT
I will possibly be deleting again after this . If I do it is with regret because there are good people on this board that I will miss. Please don't delete, please stay.
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