2 PEAS BULLYING

With respect Sock you might find it amusing to post this  but I don't take too kindly in someone lying about me or continuing to harass me on a message board. This is not the first time she's done this to me and I have the right o defend myself.

I know the Jello Salad is an abomination, but calling it harassment is a bit much 😂

For the record, I'm really sorry to see Dotty has been pushed to leave. She obviously had personal stuff going on and these repeated accusations were just too much. I wish you well Dotty, should you be reading this.

That's so easy for you to say when you ARE allowed an opinion.
This goes so much farther than having your ego bruised because you might have been wrong, or even bruised because you might have been right but the vocal majority won't let that stand. It goes SO MUCH FURTHER than needing a "thick skin". 
It's having outright VICIOUS lies said about what you have said, or even about you in order to literally call you a monster. It's about saying you add nothing to the board, telling people not to engage, calling you vicious names, attacking your mental ability and then gathering the group to pile on and throw rocks at a Pea so they leave. Many do.

What's MY crime and anyone like me? Having a different opinion, showing another possibility, showing grace, having facts that contradict a Pea narrative. All stated WITHOUT personal attacks and demonizing the other person. My demeanor doesn't matter though, they'll just lie and say you never answered (when you did) or that you're supporting racism, sexism, or whatever pertains, and have several people come along in agreement. Or keep engaging you and THEN demonize you in tag team fashion because you responded. As LETTUCE pointed out. Or dozens of other dishonest tactics meant to get you to sit down and shut up. 

That's absolutely, irrefutably wrong behavior anywhere, and if my presenting another ACTUAL possibility of what someone said THAT WAS NOT RACIST is "defending racism" or saying that the video clip is missing what actually happened and I want to see what's missing before I believe the protester OR the police is "defending police brutality", then your post, by those same standards,  is defending bullying bullies who bully. 

Except, we all know the rules change when "you" do it. 

And if it's not as combative TO YOU as the old board, it's because YOU have almost NO pushback, the vocal majority backing you up, and those that still do push back in conversation have been demonized so effectively into no one listening to them, or at times even being blocked. I can't imagine why anyone would delete their account and try to start over.

It's amazing that early on under "pixiechick" I was complemented on how refreshing it was to hear from someone with a different point of view that didn't resort to personal attacks. I haven't change since the beginning, but the difference in how people receive me now, is because of HOW I've been painted for backing up my facts and opinions instead of accepting I am always wrong. Nothing has changed. I stayed respectful. I still have reasonable discussions and disagreements with peas that don't resort to personal attacks. But look, now I'm called a troll. No one calls the person that continuously rewrites what I say in order to argue against something I didn't even say, a troll. That's absolute troll behavior, but they don't get called on it. No one calls the person that lied and said I left out part of her post, a troll. Even when it's right there in black and white to verify. No one called the person that lied about what I said in order to literally call me a monster, a troll. It's verifiable and yet people still go along with "your" lies.  

Hell, even keriwest was accused of calling peoples names. She didn't have many posts at the time so I went through them and not once had she called people names. Not one time. She still doesn't have many more posts since then. But had she kept posting she would have the same false reputation as I do, slapped on her as an absolute truth. 
People see this. If they place any value on this board at all, they know not to push back if they don't want to go through this shit. 

So no, this is not about needing a thick skin. This goes so much farther than needing a thick skin.

Unless you're talking about the people that do all of the above mentioned to people because they can't stand ever being wrong. Maybe THEY need a thicker skin to be able to converse with people with different ideas, conclusions, opinions and facts, without trying to run them off in some vile, dehumanizing way. 

pixiechick reached out to me in a private message when my child died. I, too, have been frustrated in a debate once over institutional racism. But we went back and forth agreeing and disagreeing with each other kindly. I rarely agree with her. I, too, get frustrated sometimes. But to say she doesn't care or is only here to make trouble isn't correct. And I wanted to point out her kindness.

I get that. And I very much see your point of view. I feel like I have even been treated better than I have given to this board and I keep trying to pay it forward. So I see your point.

I have no idea what happened with the OP so I'm not even weighing in on that. But some of the posters on this board do get a pile on undeserved. And some do get judged for making a slip up. And some come back with apologies that don't get accepted and are still punished or shunned by the group. I just think pixiechick, in particular, bears the brunt of conservative outrage because she's basically the only one who posts from that point of view. I get conservative outrage. I get the frustration of endless loops of quoting and disagreements. (Sometimes I can't even read them because my brain doesn't work enough and I have to just close the thread)

But we really have to stop and think that there is a person, a real human being, on the other end of our posts. And anyone has the option of not interacting with someone. That's exactly how I handle things here.

I know the Jello Salad is an abomination, but calling it harassment is a bit much 😂

My summary of this thread: Lettuce's drama-filled (re-re)entry swiftly followed by her dramatic (re-re)exit. Dotty saying fuck it, I don’t need this harassment and leaving after being a prolific contributor for many years. PixieDick, sorry -chick, updates her spreadsheet so that she can conjure up more random quotes when the need (doesn’t) require. 

Have I missed anything? 

Oh, and Dotty, I hope you’re ok. 😕